A new way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere | Jennifer Wilcox

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Four hundred parts per million:
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that's the approximate concentration of CO2 in the air today.
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What does this even mean?
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For every 400 molecules of carbon dioxide,
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we have another million molecules of oxygen and nitrogen.
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In this room today, there are about 1,800 of us.
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Imagine just one of us was wearing a green shirt,
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and you're asked to find that single person.
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That's the challenge we're facing when capturing CO2
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directly out of the air.
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Sounds pretty easy,
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pulling CO2 out of the air.
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It's actually really difficult.
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But I'll tell you what is easy:
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avoiding CO2 emissions to begin with.
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But we're not doing that.
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So now what we have to think about is going back;
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pulling CO2 back out of the air.
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Even though it's difficult, it's actually possible to do this.
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And I'm going to share with you today where this technology is at
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and where it just may be heading in the near future.
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Now, the earth naturally removes CO2 from the air
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by seawater, soils, plants and even rocks.
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And although engineers and scientists are doing the invaluable work
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to accelerate these natural processes,
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it simply won't be enough.
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The good news is, we have more.
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Thanks to human ingenuity, we have the technology today
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to remove CO2 out of the air
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using a chemically manufactured approach.
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I like to think of this as a synthetic forest.
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There are two basic approaches to growing or building such a forest.
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One is using CO2-grabbing chemicals dissolved in water.
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Another is using solid materials with CO2-grabbing chemicals.
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No matter which approach you choose, they basically look the same.
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So what I'm showing you here is what a system might look like
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to do just this.
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This is called an air contactor.
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You can see it has to be really, really wide
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in order to have a high enough surface area
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to process all of the air required,
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because remember,
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we're trying to capture just 400 molecules out of a million.
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Using the liquid-based approach to do this,
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you take this high surface area packing material,
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you fill the contactor with the packing material,
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you use pumps to distribute liquid across the packing material,
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and you can use fans, as you can see in the front,
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to bubble the air through the liquid.
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The CO2 in the air is separated [by] the liquid
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by reacting with the really strong-binding CO2 molecules in solution.
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And in order to capture a lot of CO2,
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you have to make this contactor deeper.
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But there's an optimization,
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because the deeper you make that contactor,
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the more energy you're spending on bubbling all that air through.
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So air contactors for direct air capture have this unique characteristic design,
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where they have this huge surface area, but a relatively thin thickness.
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And now once you've captured the CO2,
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you have to be able to recycle that material that you used to capture it,
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over and over again.
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The scale of carbon capture is so enormous
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that the capture process must be sustainable,
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and you can't use a material just once.
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And so recycling the material requires an enormous amount of heat,
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because think about it: CO2 is so dilute in the air,
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that material is binding it really strong,
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and so you need a lot of heat in order to recycle the material.
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And to recycle the material with that heat,
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what happens is that concentrated CO2 that you got from dilute CO2 in the air
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is now released,
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and you produce high-purity CO2.
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And that's really important,
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because high-purity CO2 is easier to liquify,
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easier to transport, whether it's in a pipeline or a truck,
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or even easier to use directly,
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say, as a fuel or a chemical.
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So I want to talk a little bit more about that energy.
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The heat required to regenerate or recycle these materials
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absolutely dictates the energy and the subsequent cost of doing this.
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So I ask a question:
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How much energy do you think it takes
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to remove a million tons of CO2 from the air
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in a given year?
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The answer is: a power plant.
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It takes a power plant to capture CO2 directly from the air.
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Depending on which approach you choose,
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the power plant could be on the order of 300 to 500 megawatts.
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And you have to be careful about what kind of power plant you choose.
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If you choose coal,
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you end up emitting more CO2 than you capture.
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Now let's talk about costs.
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An energy-intensive version of this technology
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could cost you as much as $1,000 a ton
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just to capture it.
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Let's translate that.
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If you were to take that very expensive CO2 and convert it to a liquid fuel,
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that comes out to 50 dollars a gallon.
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That's way too expensive; it's not feasible.
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So how could we bring these costs down?
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That's, in part, the work that I do.
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There's a company today, a commercial-scale company,
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that can do this as low as 600 dollars a ton.
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There are several other companies that are developing technologies
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that can do this even cheaper than that.
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I'm going to talk to you a little bit
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about a few of these different companies.
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One is called Carbon Engineering.
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They're based out of Canada.
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They use a liquid-based approach for separation
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combined with burning super-abundant, cheap natural gas
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to supply the heat required.
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They have a clever approach
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that allows them to co-capture the CO2 from the air
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and the CO2 that they generate from burning the natural gas.
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And so by doing this,
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they offset excess pollution and they reduce costs.
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Switzerland-based Climeworks and US-based Global Thermostat
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use a different approach.
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They use solid materials for capture.
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Climeworks uses heat from the earth,
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or geothermal,
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or even excess steam from other industrial processes
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to cut down on pollution and costs.
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Global Thermostat takes a different approach.
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They focus on the heat required
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and the speed in which it moves through the material
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so that they're able to release and produce that CO2
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at a really fast rate,
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which allows them to have a more compact design
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and overall cheaper costs.
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And there's more still.
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A synthetic forest has a significant advantage over a real forest: size.
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This next image that I'm showing you is a map of the Amazon rainforest.
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The Amazon is capable of capturing 1.6 billion tons of CO2 each year.
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This is the equivalent of roughly 25 percent
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of our annual emissions in the US.
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The land area required for a synthetic forest
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or a manufactured direct air capture plant
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to capture the same
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is 500 times smaller.
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In addition, for a synthetic forest,
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you don't have to build it on arable land,
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so there's no competition with farmland or food,
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and there's also no reason to have to cut down any real trees
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to do this.
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I want to step back,
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and I want to bring up the concept of negative emissions again.
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Negative emissions require that the CO2 separated
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be permanently removed from the atmosphere forever,
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which means putting it back underground,
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where it came from in the first place.
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But let's face it, nobody gets paid to do that today --
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at least not enough.
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So the companies that are developing these technologies
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are actually interested in taking the CO2
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and making something useful out of it, a marketable product.
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It could be liquid fuels, plastics
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or even synthetic gravel.
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And don't get me wrong -- these carbon markets are great.
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But I also don't want you to be disillusioned.
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These are not large enough to solve our climate crisis,
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and so what we need to do is we need to actually think about
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what it could take.
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One thing I'll absolutely say is positive about the carbon markets
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is that they allow for new capture plants to be built,
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and with every capture plant built,
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we learn more.
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And when we learn more,
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we have an opportunity to bring costs down.
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But we also need to be willing to invest
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as a global society.
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We could have all of the clever thinking and technology in the world,
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but it's not going to be enough
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in order for this technology to have a significant impact on climate.
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We really need regulation,
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we need subsidies,
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taxes on carbon.
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There are a few of us that would absolutely be willing to pay more,
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but what will be required
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is for carbon-neutral, carbon-negative paths
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to be affordable for the majority of society
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in order to impact climate.
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In addition to those kinds of investments,
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we also need investments in research and development.
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So what might that look like?
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In 1966, the US invested about a half a percent of gross domestic product
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in the Apollo program.
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It got people safely to the moon
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and back to the earth.
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Half a percent of GDP today is about 100 billion dollars.
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So knowing that direct air capture
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is one front in our fight against climate change,
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imagine that we could invest 20 percent, 20 billion dollars.
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Further, let's imagine that we could get the costs down
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to a 100 dollars a ton.
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That's going to be hard, but it's part of what makes my job fun.
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And so what does that look like,
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20 billion dollars,100 dollars a ton?
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That requires us to build 200 synthetic forests,
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each capable of capturing a million tons of CO2 per year.
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That adds up to about five percent of US annual emissions.
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It doesn't sound like much.
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Turns out, it's actually significant.
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If you look at the emissions associated with long-haul trucking
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and commercial aircraft,
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they add up to about five percent.
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Our dependence on liquid fuels makes these emissions
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really difficult to avoid.
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So this investment could absolutely be significant.
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Now, what would it take in terms of land area to do this,
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200 plants?
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It turns out that they would take up about half the land area of Vancouver.
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That's if they were fueled by natural gas.
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But remember the downside of natural gas -- it also emits CO2.
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So if you use natural gas to do direct air capture,
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you only end up capturing about a third of what's intended,
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unless you have that clever approach of co-capture
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that Carbon Engineering does.
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And so if we had an alternative approach
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and used wind or solar to do this,
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the land area would be about 15 times larger,
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looking at the state of New Jersey now.
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One of the things that I think about in my work and my research
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is optimizing and figuring out where we should put these plants
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and think about the local resources available --
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whether it's land, water, cheap and clean electricity --
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because, for instance, you can use clean electricity
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to split water to produce hydrogen,
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which is an excellent, carbon-free replacement for natural gas,
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to supply the heat required.
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But I want us to reflect a little bit again on negative emissions.
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Negative emissions should not be considered a silver bullet,
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but they may help us if we continue to stall
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at cutting down on CO2 pollution worldwide.
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But that's also why we have to be careful.
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This approach is so alluring that it can even be risky,
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as some may cling onto it as some kind of total solution to our climate crisis.
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It may tempt people to continue to burn fossil fuels 24 hours a day,
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365 days a year.
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I argue that we should not see negative emissions
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as a replacement for stopping pollution,
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but rather, as an addition to an existing portfolio that includes everything,
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from increased energy efficiency
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to low-energy carbon
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to improved farming --
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will all collectively get us on a path to net-zero emissions one day.
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A little bit of self-reflection:
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my husband is an emergency physician.
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And I find myself amazed by the lifesaving work
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that he and his colleagues do each and every day.
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Yet when I talk to them about my work on carbon capture,
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I find that they're equally amazed,
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and that's because combatting climate change by capturing carbon
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isn't just about saving a polar bear
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or a glacier.
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It's about saving human lives.
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A synthetic forest may not ever be as pretty as a real one,
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but it could just enable us to preserve not only the Amazon,
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but all of the people
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that we love and cherish,
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as well as all of our future generations
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and modern civilization.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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