Bill Gross: Great ideas for finding new energy

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Right when I was 15 was when I first got interested in solar energy.
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My family had moved from Fort Lee, New Jersey to California,
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from the snow to lots of heat, and gas lines.
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There was gas rationing in 1973.
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The energy crisis was in full bore.
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I started reading "Popular Science" magazine,
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and I got really excited about the potential of solar energy
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to try and solve that crisis.
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I had just taken trigonometry in high school,
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I learned about the parabola
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and how it could concentrate rays of light to a single focus.
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That got me very excited.
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And I really felt that there would be potential
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to build some kind of thing that could concentrate light.
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So, I started this company called Solar Devices.
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And this was a company where I built parabolas,
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I took metal shop,
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and I remember walking into metal shop building parabolas and Stirling engines.
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And I was building a Stirling engine over on the lathe,
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and all the motorcycle guys said, "You're building a bong, aren't you?"
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And I said, "No, it's a Stirling engine." But they didn't believe me.
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I sold the plans for this engine
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and for this dish in the back of "Popular Science" magazine,
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for four dollars each.
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And I earned enough money to pay for my first year of Caltech.
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It was a really big excitement for me to get into Caltech.
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And at my first year at Caltech, I continued the business.
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But then, in the second year of Caltech, they started grading.
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The whole first year was pass/fail, but the second year was graded.
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I wasn't able to keep up with the business,
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and I ended up with a 25-year detour.
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My dream had been to convert solar energy at a very practical cost,
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but then I had this big detour.
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First, the coursework at Caltech.
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Then, when I graduated from Caltech, the IBM PC came out,
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and I got addicted to the IBM PC in 1981.
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And then in 1983, Lotus 1-2-3 came out,
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and I was completely blown away by Lotus 1-2-3.
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I began operating my business with 1-2-3, began writing add-ins for 1-2-3,
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wrote a natural language interface to 1-2-3.
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I started an educational software company after I joined Lotus,
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and then I started Idealab so I could have a roof
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under which I could build multiple companies in succession.
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Much later -- in 2000, very recently -- the new California energy crisis --
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what was purported to be a big energy crisis -- was coming.
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And I was trying to figure out
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if we could build something that would capitalize on that
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and get people backup energy, in case the crisis really came.
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And I started looking at how we could build battery backup systems
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that could give people five hours, 10 hours, maybe even a full day,
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or three days' worth of backup power.
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I'm glad you heard earlier today, batteries are unbelievably --
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lack density compared to fuel.
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So much more energy can be stored with fuel than with batteries.
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You'd have to fill your entire parking space of one garage space
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just to give yourself four hours of battery backup.
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And I concluded, after researching every other technology
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that we could deploy for storing energy --
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flywheels, different formulations of batteries --
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it just wasn't practical to store energy.
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So what about making energy? Maybe we could make energy.
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I tried to figure out -- maybe solar's become attractive.
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It's been 25 years since I was doing this,
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let me go back and look at what's been happening with solar cells.
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And the price had gone down from 10 dollars a watt
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to about four or five dollars a watt, but it stabilized.
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And it needed to get much lower to be cost-effective.
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I studied all the new things that had happened in solar cells,
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and was looking for ways we could make solar cells more inexpensively.
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A lot of new things are happening to do that,
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but fundamentally, the process requires a tremendous amount of energy.
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Some people say it takes more energy to make a solar cell
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than it will give out in its entire life.
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If we reduce the amount of energy it takes to make the cells,
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that will become more practical.
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But right now, you pretty much have to take silicon,
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put it in an oven at 1600 F for 17 hours, to make the cells.
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A lot of people are working to try and reduce that,
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but I didn't have anything to contribute.
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So I tried to figure out what other way could we try
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to make cost-effective solar electricity.
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What if we collect the sun with a large reflector --
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like I had been thinking about in high school,
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but maybe with modern technology we could make it cheaper --
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concentrate it to a small converter,
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and then the conversion device wouldn't have to be as expensive,
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because it's much smaller, rather than solar cells,
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which have to cover the entire surface that you want to gather sun from.
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This seemed practical now,
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because a lot of new technologies had come in the 25 years
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since I had last looked at it.
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There was a lot of new manufacturing techniques,
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not to mention really cheap miniature motors --
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brushless motors, servomotors, stepper motors,
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that are used in printers and scanners.
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So, that's a breakthrough.
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Of course, inexpensive microprocessors
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and a very important breakthrough -- genetic algorithms.
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I'll be very short on genetic algorithms.
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It's a powerful way of solving intractable problems using natural selection.
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You take a problem that you can't solve with a pure mathematical answer,
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you build an evolutionary system to try multiple tries at guessing,
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you add sex --
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where you take half of one solution and half of another
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and then make new mutations --
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and you use natural selection to kill off not-as-good solutions.
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Usually, with a genetic algorithm on a computer today,
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with a three gigahertz processor,
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you can solve many formerly intractable problems
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in just a matter of minutes.
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So we tried to come up with a way to use genetic algorithms
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to create a new type of concentrator.
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And I'll show you what we came up with.
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Traditionally, concentrators look like this.
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Those shapes are parabolas.
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They take all the parallel incoming rays and focus it to a single spot.
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They have to track the sun,
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because they have to point directly at the sun.
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They usually have a one degree acceptance angle --
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once they're more than a degree off,
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none of the sunlight rays will hit the focus.
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So we tried to come up with a non-tracking collector
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that would gather much more than one degree of light, with no moving parts.
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So we created a genetic algorithm to try this out,
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we made a model in Excel of a multisurface reflector,
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and an amazing thing evolved, literally,
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from trying a billion cycles, a billion different attempts,
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with a fitness function that defined how can you collect the most light,
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from the most angles, over a day, from the sun.
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And this is the shape that evolved.
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It's this non-tracking collector with these six tuba-like horns,
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and each of them collect light in the following way --
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if the sunlight strikes right here,
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it might bounce right to the center, the hot spot, directly,
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but if the sun is off axis and comes from the side,
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it might hit two places and take two bounces.
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So for direct light, it takes only one bounce,
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for off-axis light it might take two,
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and for extreme off-axis, it might take three.
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Your efficiency goes down with more bounces,
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because you lose about 10 percent with each bounce,
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but this allowed us to collect light from a plus or minus 25-degree angle.
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So, about two and a half hours of the day
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we could collect with a stationary component.
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Solar cells collect light for four and a half hours though.
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On an average adjusted day, a solar cell --
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because the sun's moving across the sky,
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the solar cell is going down with a sine wave function of performance
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at the off-axis angles.
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It collects about four and a half average hours of sunlight a day.
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So even this, although it was great with no moving parts --
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we could achieve high temperatures -- wasn't enough.
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We needed to beat solar cells.
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So we took a look at another idea.
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We looked at a way to break up a parabola into individual petals that would track.
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So what you see here is 12 separate petals
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that each could be controlled with individual microprocessors
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that would only cost a dollar.
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You can buy a two-megahertz microprocessor for a dollar now.
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And you can buy stepper motors that pretty much never wear out
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because they have no brushes,
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for a dollar.
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So we can control all 12 of these petals for under 50 dollars
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and what this would allow us to do is not have to move the focus any more,
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but only move the petals.
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The whole system would have a much lower profile,
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but also we could gather sunlight for six and a half to seven hours a day.
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Now that we have concentrated sunlight,
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what are we going to put at the center to convert sunlight to electricity?
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So we tried to look at all the different heat engines
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that have been used in history to convert sunlight or heat to electricity,
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And one of the great ones of all time,
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James Watt's steam engine of 1788 was a major breakthrough.
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James Watt didn't actually invent the steam engine, he just refined it.
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But his refinements were incredible.
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He added new linear motion guides to the pistons,
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he added a condenser to cool the steam outside the cylinder,
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he made the engine double-acting, so it had double the power.
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Those were major breakthroughs. All of the improvements he made --
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and it's justifiable that our measure of energy, the watt,
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today is named after him.
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So we looked at this engine, and this had some potential.
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Steam engines are dangerous,
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and they had tremendous impact on the world --
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industrial revolution and ships and locomotives.
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But they're usually good to be large,
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so they're not good for distributed power generation.
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They're also very high-pressure, so they're dangerous.
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Another type of engine is the hot air engine.
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And the hot air engine also was not invented by Robert Stirling,
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but Robert Stirling came along in 1816 and radically improved it.
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This engine, because it was so interesting --
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it only worked on air, no steam --
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has led to hundreds of creative designs over the years
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that use the Stirling engine principle.
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But after the Stirling engine, Otto came along,
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and also, he didn't invent the internal combustion engine,
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he just refined it.
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He showed it in Paris in 1867, and it was a major achievement
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because it brought the power density of the engine way up.
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You could now get a lot more power in a lot smaller space,
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and that allowed the engine to be used for mobile applications.
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So, once you have mobility,
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you're making a lot of engines because you've got lots of units,
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as opposed to steam ships or big factories,
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so this was the engine that ended up benefiting from mass production
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where all the other engines didn't.
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So, because it went into mass production,
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costs were reduced, 100 years of refinement,
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emissions were reduced, tremendous production value.
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There have been hundreds of millions of internal combustion engines built,
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compared to thousands of Stirling engines built.
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And not nearly as many small steam engines being built anymore,
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only large ones for big operations.
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So after looking at these three, and 47 others,
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we concluded that the Stirling engine would be the best one to use.
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I want to give you a brief explanation of how we looked at it and how it works.
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So we tried to look at the Stirling engine in a new way,
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because it was practical --
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weight no longer mattered for our application.
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The internal combustion engine took off because weight mattered,
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because you were moving around.
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But if you're trying to generate solar energy in a static place
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the weight doesn't matter so much.
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We also discovered that efficiency doesn't matter so much
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if your energy source is free.
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Normally, efficiency is crucial
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because the fuel cost of your engine over its life
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dwarfs the cost of the engine.
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But if your fuel source is free,
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then the only thing that matters
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is the up-front capital cost of the engine.
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So you don't want to optimize for efficiency,
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you want to optimize for power per dollar.
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So using that new twist, with the new criteria,
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we thought we could relook at the Stirling engine,
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and also bring genetic algorithms in.
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Basically, Robert Stirling didn't have Gordon Moore before him
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to get us three gigahertz of processor power.
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So we took the same genetic algorithm
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that we used earlier to make that concentrator,
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which didn't work out for us,
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to optimize the Stirling engine,
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and make its design sizes and all of its dimensions
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the exact optimum to get the most power per dollar,
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irrespective of weight, irrespective of size,
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just to get the most conversion of solar energy,
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because the sun is free.
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And that's the process we took -- let me show you how the engine works.
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The simplest heat engine, or hot air engine, of all time
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would be this -- take a box, a steel canister, with a piston.
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Put a flame under it, the piston moves up.
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Take it off the flame and pour water on it, or let it cool down,
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the piston moves down.
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That's a heat engine.
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That's the most fundamental heat engine you could have.
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The problem is the efficiency is one hundredth of one percent,
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because you're heating all the metal of the chamber
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and then cooling all the metal of the chamber each time.
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And you're only getting power from the air that's heating at the same time,
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but you're wasting energy heating and cooling the metal.
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So someone came up with a very clever idea.
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Instead of heating and cooling the whole cylinder,
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what about if you put a displacer inside --
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a little thing that shuttles the air back and forth.
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You move that up and down with a little bit of energy
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but now you're only shifting the air down to the hot end and up to the cold end.
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So, now you're not alternately heating and cooling the metal, just the air.
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That allows you to get the efficiency up
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from a hundredth of a percent to about two percent.
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And then Robert Stirling came along with this genius idea,
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which was, well, I'm still not heating the metal now,
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with this kind of engine,
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but I'm still reheating all the air.
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I'm still heating the air every time and cooling the air every time.
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What about if I put a thermal sponge in the middle,
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in the passageway between where the air has to move between hot and cold?
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So he made fine wires, and cracked glass,
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and all different kinds of materials to be a heat sponge.
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So when the air pushes up to go from the hot end to the cold end,
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it puts some heat into the sponge.
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And then when the air comes back after it's been cooled,
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it picks up that heat again.
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So you're reusing your energy five or six times,
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and that brings the efficiency up to between 30 and 40 percent.
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It's a little known, but brilliant, genius invention of Robert Stirling
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that takes the hot air engine from being somewhat impractical --
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like I found out when I made the real simple version in high school --
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to very potentially possible,
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once you get the efficiency up,
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if you can design this to be low enough cost.
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So we really set out on a path to try and make the lowest cost possible.
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We built a huge mathematical model of how a Stirling engine works.
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We applied the genetic algorithm.
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We got the results from that for the optimal engine.
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We built engines --
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so we built 100 different engines over the last two years.
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We measured each one, we readjusted the model to what we measured,
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and then we led that to the current prototype.
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It led to a very compact, inexpensive engine,
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and this is what the engine looks like.
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Let me show you what it looks like in real life.
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So this is the engine. It's just a small cylinder down here,
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which holds the generator inside and all the linkage,
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and it's the hot cap -- the hot cylinder on the top --
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this part gets hot, this part is cool,
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and electricity comes out.
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The exact converse is also true.
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If you put electricity in, this will get hot and this will get cold,
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you get refrigeration.
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So it's a complete reversible cycle,
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a very efficient cycle, and quite a simple thing to make.
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So now you put the two things together.
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So you have the engine.
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What if you combine the petals and the engine in the center?
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The petals track and the engine gets the concentrated sunlight,
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takes that heat and turns it into electricity.
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This is what the first prototype of our system looked like
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with the petals and the engine in the center.
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This is being run out in the sun,
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and now I want to show you what the actual thing looks like.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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So this is a unit with the 12 petals.
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These petals cost about a dollar each --
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they're lightweight, injection-molded plastic, aluminized.
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The mechanism to control each petal is below there,
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with a microprocessor on each one.
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There are thermocouples on the engine --
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little sensors that detect the heat when the sunlight strikes them.
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Each petal adjusts itself separately to keep the highest temperature on it.
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When the sun comes out in the morning, the petals will seek the sun,
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find it by searching for the highest temperature.
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About a minute and a half or two minutes after the rays are striking the hot cap
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the engine will be warm enough to start
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and then the engine will generate electricity
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for about six and a half hours a day --
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six and a half to seven hours as the sun moves across the sky.
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A critical part that we can take advantage of
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is that we have these inexpensive microprocessors
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and each of these petals is autonomous,
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and each of these petals figures out where the sun is with no user setup.
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So you don't have to tell what latitude, longitude you're at,
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what your roof slope angle is, or what orientation.
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It doesn't really care.
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What it does is it searches to find the hottest spot,
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it searches again a half an hour later, a day later, a month later.
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It basically figures out where on Earth you are
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by watching the direction the sun moves,
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so you don't have to actually enter anything about that.
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The way the unit works is,
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when the sun comes out, the engine will start
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and you get power out here.
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We have AC and DC, get 12 volts DC,
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so that could be used for certain applications.
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We have an inverter in there, so you get 117 volts AC.
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And you also get hot water. The hot water's optional.
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You don't have to use it, it will cool itself.
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But you can use it to optionally heat hot water
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and that brings the efficiency up even higher
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because some of the heat that you'd normally be rejecting,
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you can now use as useful energy, whether it's for a pool or hot water.
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Let me show you a quick movie of what this looks like running.
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This is the first test where we took it outside
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and each of the petals were individually seeking.
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And what they do is step, very coarsely at first,
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and very finely afterward.
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Once they get a temperature reading on the thermocouple
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indicating they found the sun,
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they slow down and do a fine search.
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Then the petals will move into position, and the engine will start.
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We've been working on this for the last two years.
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We're very excited about the progress, we have a long way to go though.
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This is how we envision it would be in a residential installation:
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you'd probably have more than one unit on your roof.
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It could be on your roof, your backyard, or somewhere else.
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You don't have to have enough units to power your entire house,
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you just save money with each incremental one you add.
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So you're still using the grid potentially,
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in this type of application, to be your backup supply --
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of course, you can't use these at night, and you can't use these on cloudy days.
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But by reducing your energy use, pretty much at the peak times --
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usually when you have your air conditioning on,
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or other times like that --
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this generates the peak power at the peak usage time,
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so it's very complementary in that sense.
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This is how we would envision a residential application.
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We also think there's very big potential for energy farms,
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especially in remote land where there happens to be a lot of sun.
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It's a really good combination of those two factors.
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It turns out there's a lot of powerful sun all around the world, obviously,
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but in special places
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where it happens to be relatively inexpensive to place these
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and also in many more places where there is high wind power.
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So an example of that is, here's the map of the United States.
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Pretty much everywhere that's not green or blue is a really ideal place,
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but even the green or blue areas are good,
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just not as good as the places that are red, orange and yellow.
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But the hot spot right around Las Vegas and Death Valley is very good.
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And is only affects the payback period,
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it doesn't mean that you couldn't use solar energy;
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you could use it anywhere on Earth.
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It just affects the payback period
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if you're comparing to grid-supplied electricity.
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But if you don't have grid-supplied electricity,
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then the question of payback is a different one entirely.
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It's just how many watts do you get per dollar,
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and how could you benefit from that to change your life in some way.
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This is the map of the whole Earth,
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and you can see a huge swathe in the middle
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where a large part of the population is,
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there's tremendous chances for solar energy.
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And of course, look at Africa.
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The potential to take advantage of solar energy there is unbelievable,
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and I'm really excited to talk more about finding ways we can help with that.
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So, in conclusion, I would say my journey has shown me
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that you can revisit old ideas in a new light,
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and sometimes ideas that have been discarded in the past
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can be practical now if you apply some new technology or new twists.
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We believe we're getting very close to something practical and affordable.
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Our short-term goal for this is to be half the price of solar cells
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and our longer-term goal is to be less than a five-year payback.
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And at less than a five-year payback, this becomes very economic.
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So you don't have to just have a feel-good attitude about energy
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to want to have one of these.
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It just makes economic sense.
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Right now, solar paybacks are between 30 and 50 years.
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If you get it down below five years,
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then it's almost a no-brainer because the interest to own it --
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someone else will finance it for you and you can just make money from day one.
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So that's our real powerful goal
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that we're really shooting for in the company.
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Two other things that I learned that were very surprising to me --
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one was how casual we are about energy.
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I was walking from the elevator over here,
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and even just looking at the stage right now --
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so there's probably 20,500-watt lights right now.
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There's 10,000 watts of light pouring on the stage,
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one horsepower is 746 watts, at full power.
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So there's basically 15 horses running at full speed just to keep the stage lit.
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Not to mention the 200 horses that are probably running right now
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to keep the air-conditioning going.
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And it's just amazing,
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walk in the elevator, and there's lights on in the elevator.
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Of course, now I'm very sensitive at home when we leave the lights on by mistake.
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But, everywhere around us we have insatiable use for energy
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because it's so cheap.
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And it's cheap because we've been subsidized by energy
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that's been concentrated by the sun.
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Basically, oil is solar-energy concentrate.
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It's been pounded for a billion years with a lot of energy
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to make it have all that energy contained in it.
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And we don't have a birthright
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to just use that up as fast as we are, I think.
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And it would be great if we could make our energy usage renewable,
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where as we're using the energy, we're creating it at the same pace,
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and I really hope we can get there.
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Thank you very much, you've been a great audience.
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