Thom Mayne: Architecture is a new way to connect to the world

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: Huzifa Mohammed ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Anwar Dafa-Alla
00:26
I don't know your name. Audience Member: Howard. Howard.
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ู„ุง ุฃุนุฑู ุงุณู…ูƒ. ( ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุญุถูˆุฑ: ู‡ูˆุฑุฏ . ู‡ูˆุฑุฏ.)
00:28
Thom Mayne: Howard? I'm sitting next to Howard. I don't know Howard, obviously,
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ู‡ูˆุฑุฏ ุŸ ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุช ุฌุงู„ุณุง ุจุฌูˆุงุฑ ู‡ูˆุฑุฏ. ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุงุถุญ ุฃู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุนุฑู ู‡ูˆุงุฑุฏ.
00:33
and he's going, I hope you're not next.
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ุซู… ู‚ุงู„ ุŒ ุงุฑุฌูˆ ุงู† ู„ุง ุชูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ .
00:35
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
00:42
Amazing. Amazing performance.
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ุฑุงุฆุน. ุฃุฏุงุก ุฑุงุฆุน
00:44
I kind of erased everything in my brain to follow that.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ู…ุญูˆุช ูƒู„ ู…ุง ููŠ ุนู‚ู„ูŠ ุนู„ูŠ ู†ุญูˆ ู…ุง ุŒ ูƒูŠ ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃุฌุฑูŠ ุฐู„ูƒ.
00:49
Let me start some place. I'm interested --
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ูˆุŒู„ูƒู† ... ุฏุนูˆู†ูŠ ุงุจุฏุฃ ู…ู† ู…ูƒุงู† ู…ุง ... ุฃู†ุง ู…ู‡ุชู… ..
00:54
I kind of do the same thing, but I don't move my body. (Laughter)
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ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุฃู†ูŠ ุฃูุนู„ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ุดูŠุกุŒ ู„ูƒู†ูŠ ู„ุง ุฃุญุฑูƒ ุฌุณุฏูŠ.
00:58
And instead of using human figures to develop ideas of time and space,
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ูˆ ุจุฏู„ุง ุนู† ุงุณุชูŠุญุงุก ุฃููƒุงุฑู†ุง ุนู† ุงู„ุฒู…ู† ูˆุงู„ุญูŠุฒ ุฃุนุถุงุก ุฌุณุฏ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ุŒ
01:09
I work in the mineral world. I work with more or less inert matter.
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ุฃู†ุง ุงุนู…ู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ู…ุงุฏูŠุŒ ุงุนู…ู„ ู…ุน ู…ูˆุงุฏ ุฃู‚ู„ ุฃูˆ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฎู…ูˆู„ุง.
01:13
And I organize it. And, well, it's also a bit different
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ูˆุงู†ุธู…ู‡ุงุŒ ุญุณู†ุง...ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุงู…ุฑ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุง ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุง
01:17
because an architect versus, let's say, a dance company
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ู„ุงู† ุงู„ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ ู…ู‚ุงุฑู†ุฉ ุจุฑููŠู‚ ุงู„ุฑู‚ุต ุฅู† ุฌุงุฒ ู„ู†ุง ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑ
01:21
finally is a negotiation between one's private world,
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ู‡ูˆ ุชูุงูˆุถ ุจูŠู† ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ู…ุฑุก ุงู„ุฎุงุต
01:26
one's conceptual world, the world of ideas, the world of aspirations,
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ุนุงู„ู…ู‡ ุงู„ุงูุชุฑุงุถูŠุŒ ุนุงู„ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุงููƒุงุฑ, ุนุงู„ู… ู…ู„ุฆู‡ ุงู„ุทู…ูˆุญุงุช.
01:31
of inventions, with the relationship of the exterior world
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ูˆ ุงู„ุงุฎุชุฑุงุนุงุชุŒ ู…ุน ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฑุก ุจุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ.
01:35
and all the limitations, the naysayers.
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ุจูƒู„ ุงู„ุนู‚ุจุงุช ูˆุงู„ู…ุฎุฐู„ูŠู† .
01:40
Because I have to say, for my whole career,
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุนู„ูŠ ุทูˆู„ ู…ุฌุฑูŠ ุญูŠุงุชูŠ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ูŠุฉ
01:43
if there's anything that's been consistent, it's been that you can't do it.
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ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดูŠุก ุธู„ ุนู„ูŠ ุญุงู„ู‡ุŒ ู„ุทุงู„ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชุนุณุฑ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ูุนู„ู‡.
01:46
No matter what I've done, what I've tried to do,
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ุฃูŠุง ูƒุงู† ู…ุง ูุนู„ุช ู„ุฅู†ุฌุงุฒู‡ุŒ ุฃูŠุง ูƒุงู† ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุงุชูƒ.
01:48
everybody says it can't be done.
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ูƒู„ ุฃุญุฏ ู„ุง ูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ุฅู†ุฌุงุฒ ุนู…ู„ู‡.
01:50
And it's continuous across the complete spectrum of the various
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ูŠุจู‚ูŠ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุจุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑ ููŠ ุทูŠู ูˆุงุณุน
01:54
kind of realities that you confront with your ideas.
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ู…ู† ูƒุงูุฉ ุฃู†ูˆุงุน ู…ุณู„ู…ุงุช ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌุงุจู‡ ุฃููƒุงุฑูƒ
01:56
And to be an architect, somehow you have to negotiate between left and right,
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ูˆ ุงู† ุชูƒูˆู† ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠุงุŒ ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุงู† ุชุฏุงูˆู„ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ูŠู…ูŠู† ูˆุงู„ุดู…ุงู„
02:01
and you have to negotiate between this very private place where ideas take place
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ูƒู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ุงู† ุชุฏุงูˆู„ ุจูŠู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ุฃู„ู…ูˆุบู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตูŠุฉ ุญูŠุซ ุชูˆู„ุฏ ุงู„ุงููƒุงุฑ
02:05
and the outside world, and then make it understood.
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ูˆ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ ุŒ ุซู… ุชุฌุนู„ู‡ ู‚ุงุจู„ุง ู„ู„ูู‡ู…
02:09
I can start any number of places, because this process is also --
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ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู†ูŠ ุงุจุฏุฃ ุฃูŠ ุนุฏุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃู…ูƒู†ู‡ุŒ ู„ุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠู‡ ุฃูŠุถุง ..
02:14
I think -- very different from some of the morning sessions,
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ุฃุธู† .... ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุฎุชู„ูู‡ ุฌุฏุง ุนู† ุงู„ุฌู„ุณุงุช ุงู„ุตุจุงุญูŠุฉ ...
02:17
which you had such a kind of very clear, such a lineal idea,
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ุญูŠุซ ุชุชู…ู„ูƒูƒ ุฃููƒุงุฑ ู…ุชุณู‚ุฉ ูˆุงุถุญุฉ ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง ...
02:21
like the last one, say, with Howard,
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ูƒุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงุฎูŠุฑู‡ุŒ ู„ู†ู‚ู„ ู…ุน ู‡ูˆุงุฑุฏ.
02:23
that I think the creative process in architecture,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ุฃุญุณุจู‡ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุฌ ุงู„ุงุจุฏุงุนูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ.
02:26
the design process, is extremely circuitous. It's labyrinthine.
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ุงู„ุชูุงุนู„ ุงู„ุชุตู…ูŠู…ูŠ ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ู…ุนู‚ุฏุฉ ูˆ ู…ุชุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุฅู„ูŠ ุญุฏ ู„ุง ู…ุชู†ุงู‡ูŠ
02:31
It's Calvino's idea of the quickest way between two points
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ุฃู†ู‡ุง ููƒุฑุฉ (ูƒุงู„ููŠู†ูˆ) ุงู† ุงู‚ุฑุจ ู…ุณุงูุฉ ุจูŠู† ู†ู‚ุทุชูŠู†
02:35
is the circuitous line, not the straight line.
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ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฎุท ุงู„ู…ุชุนุฑุฌ ูˆ ู„ูŠุณ ุงู„ู…ุณุชู‚ูŠู…
02:37
And definitely my life has been part of that.
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ุจุงู„ุชุงูƒูŠุฏ ุฅู† ุญูŠุงุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ุณู‚
02:39
I'm going to start with some simple kind of
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ุณุงุจุฏุง ุญุฏูŠุซูŠ
02:41
notions of how we organize things.
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ุจููƒุฑู‡ ุจุณูŠุทุฉ ุนู† ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุชู†ุธูŠู…ู†ุง ู„ู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก.
02:43
But basically, what we do is, we try to give coherence to the world.
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ู„ูƒู† ู…ุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณุŒ ุฃู† ู†ุญุงูˆู„ ุงู† ู†ุนุทูŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุชุฑุงุจุทุง ู…ู†ุทู‚ูŠุง
02:47
We make physical things, buildings
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ู†ุตู†ุน ุฃุดูŠุงุก ู…ุงุฏูŠุฉ ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ
02:49
that become a part in an accretional process; they make cities.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุชู„ุงุญู…ูŠู‡ุŒ ุตู†ุนุช ู…ุฏู†ู†ุง
02:52
And those things are the reflection of the processes,
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ูˆ ู…ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก ุฅู„ุง ุงู†ุนูƒุณ ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ
02:57
and the time that they are made.
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ูˆุงู„ุฒู…ู† ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุตู†ุนุช ููŠู‡
02:59
And what I'm doing is attempting to synthesize the way one sees the world
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ูˆ ู…ุง ุฃูุนู„ู‡ ุฃู†ูŠ ุฃุญุงูˆู„ ุงู† ุฃุฎู„ู‚ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ูŠุชู…ูƒู† ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุฑุก ู…ู† ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…
03:04
and the territories which are useful as generative material.
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ูˆ ุงู„ู…ู…ุชู„ูƒุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ุชุดูƒู„ ู…ุงุฏุฉ ุฎู„ุงู‚ู‡
03:09
Because, really, all I'm interested in, always, as an architect,
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุŒ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ูŠู‡ู…ู†ูŠ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุงุญูˆุงู„ ูƒู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ
03:13
is the way things are produced because that's what I do. Right?
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ู‡ูˆ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุตู†ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก ู„ุงู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ุนู…ู„ูŠ ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุŸ
03:17
And it's not based on an a priori notion.
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ูˆ ู‡ูŠ ู„ูŠุณุช ู…ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุนู„ูŠ ููƒุฑู‡ ู…ุณุจู‚ุฉ
03:19
I have no interest at all in conceiving something in my brain
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ู„ุณุช ู…ู‡ุชู…ุง ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ ุจุชุตูˆุฑ ุดู‰ุก ููŠ ุฐู‡ู†ูŠ
03:23
and saying, "This is what it looks like." In fact, somebody mentioned --
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ุซู… ุฃู‚ูˆู„ " ู‡ูƒุฐุง ุชุจุฏูˆ". ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ุฃุญุฏ ู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑ
03:26
Ewan, maybe it was you in your introduction --
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ุฅูŠูˆุงู†ุŒ ู„ุฑุจู…ุง ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ู…ู‚ุฏู…ุฉ ูƒู„ุงู…ูƒ.
03:28
about this is what architects --
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ุนู† ู…ุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ
03:30
did somebody say it's what business people come to,
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ู‡ู„ ู‚ุงู„ ุฃุญุฏ ู…ุง ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุง ุชูˆุตู„ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุฃุตุญุงุจ ุงู„ุนู…ู„
03:32
it's what the corporate world comes to
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ุฃูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ุง ู…ุง ุชูˆุตู„ ุงู„ูŠู‡ ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุงู„ูƒุจุฑู‰
03:34
when they want to make it look like something at the end of the line? Huh. Wow.
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ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ูŠุฑูŠุฏูˆู† ุงู† ูŠุฌุนู„ูˆู‡ุง ุชุจุฏูˆ ููŠ ุฃูˆุฌ ุงู„ุญุฏุงุซุฉ ุŸ ูˆุงุงูˆ
03:38
It doesn't work that way for me at all.
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ู„ูŠุณ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุชู…ุงู…ุง
03:40
I have no interest in that whatsoever.
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ู„ุณุช ู…ู‡ุชู…ุง ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุจุงูŠ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ูƒุงู†ุช
03:42
Architecture is the beginning of something, because it's --
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ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ู„ุดูŠุก ู…ุงุŒ ู„ุงู†ู‡ุง
03:44
if you're not involved in first principles,
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ู„ูˆ ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู…ุนู†ูŠุง ุจุงู„ู…ุจุงุฏูŠุก ุงู„ุงูˆู„ู‰
03:46
if you're not involved in the absolute,
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ู„ูˆ ู„ู… ุชูƒู† ู…ุนู†ูŠุง ุจุงู„ู…ุทู„ู‚
03:48
the beginning of that generative process, it's cake decoration.
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ุฃู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ู„ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุฎู„ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ ุŒ ุชุดุจู‡ ุชุฒูŠูŠู† ุฃู„ูƒุนูƒุฉ
03:53
And I've nothing wrong with cake decoration and cake decorators,
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ูˆ ู„ูŠุณ ุนู†ุฏูŠ ู…ุง ูŠุนูŠุจ ุชุฒูŠูŠู† ุงู„ูƒุนูƒ ูˆู„ุง ู…ุฒูŠู†ูŠู† ุงู„ูƒุนูƒ
03:56
if anybody's involved in cake decorations --
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ุฅุฐุง ุดุงุฑูƒ ุฃูŠ ุฃุญุฏ ููŠ ุชุฒูŠูŠู† ูƒุนูƒุฉ
03:58
it's not what I'm interested in doing. (Laughter)
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ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุญู„ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ูŠ
04:00
And so, in the formation of things, in giving it form,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูุงู† ุชุดูƒูŠู„ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุŒ ุฅุนุทุงุฆู‡ุง ุดูƒู„ุงุŒ ุงุนุทุงุฆู‡ุง
04:05
in concretizing these things,
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ููŠ ุชุฌุณูŠุฏ ุชู„ูƒู… ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก
04:08
it starts with some notion of how one organizes.
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุชุจุฏุฃ ุจููƒุฑู‡ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชุฑุชูŠุจ ุงู„ู…ุฑุก ู„ู„ุงุดูŠุงุก
04:11
And I've had for 30 years an interest in a series of complexities
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ู„ุทุงู„ู…ุง ุงู‡ุชู…ู…ุช ุจุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุฌู…ูŠุนุงุช ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุซู„ุงุซูŠู† ุนุงู…ุง ุงู„ูุงุฆุชุฉ
04:16
where a series of forces are brought to bear,
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ุญูŠุซ ุฌูŠุก ุจู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู‰ ู„ุญู…ู„ู‡ุง
04:19
and to understand the nature of the final result of that,
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ูˆู„ูƒูŠ ุฃูู‡ู… ุทุจูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ
04:23
representing the building itself.
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ู…ุชู…ุซู„ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ุจุญุฏ ุฐุงุชู‡
04:26
There's been a continual relationship between inventions,
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ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ ุนู„ุงู‚ู‡ ู…ุณุชุฏุงู…ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุงุฎุชุฑุงุนุงุช
04:30
which are private, and reality, which has been important to me.
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ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ ููŠ ูƒู†ู‡ู‡ุง ูˆุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุŒ ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุงู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ุจู…ูƒุงู† ุนู†ุฏูŠ
04:34
A project which is part of an exhibition in Copenhagen 10 years ago,
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ุฃุญุฏ ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุนูŠ ูƒุงู† ุฌุฒุก ุง ู…ู† ู…ุนุฑุถ ููŠ ูƒูˆุจู†ู‡ุงุฌู† ู‚ุจู„ ุนุดุฑ ุณู†ูˆุงุช
04:39
which was the modeling of a hippocampus --
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ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ุนุจุงุฑู‡ ุนู…ู„ ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ู„ู„ู‡ูŠุจุจูˆูƒุงู…ุจูˆุณ (ุงู„ุญุตูŠู†)
04:41
the territory of the brain that records short-term memory --
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-- ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏู…ุงุบ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุญูุธ ุงู„ุฐุงูƒุฑุฉ ู‚ุตูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠ--
04:44
and the documentation of that, the imaginative and documentation of that
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ูˆ ุงู„ุชูˆุซูŠู‚ ู„ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุงู„ุชูˆุซูŠู‚ ุงู„ุชุฎูŠู„ูŠ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ
04:48
through a series of drawings which literally attempt to organize that experience.
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ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุณูˆู…ุงุช . ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนู…ู„ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู† ุชู†ุธู… ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ
04:53
And it had to do with the notion of walking a kilometer,
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ูƒู…ุง ุงู† ู„ู‡ุง ุจุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดูŠ ู„ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑ
04:57
observing every kilometer a particular object of desire,
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ู…ู„ุงุญุธุฉ ูƒู„ ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑ ูŠุดูƒู„ ุฌุฒุก ู…ุนูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
05:00
and then placing that within this.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ูˆุถุน ุฐุงูƒ ุถู…ู†ู‡
05:02
And the notion was that I could make an organization
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ูˆ ุงู„ููƒุฑู‡ ู…ู† ูˆุฑุงุก ุฐุงูƒ ุฃู†ูŠ ุงุณุชุทุนุช ุงู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ
05:05
not built on normal coherencies, but built on non-sequiturs, built on randomness.
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ู„ูŠุณุช ู…ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุณู„ุณู„ ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ูŠ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนูŠุŒ ุจู„ ู…ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุณุงุณ ุงู„ู„ุง ู…ู†ุทู‚ ุŒ ู…ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนุดูˆุงุฆูŠุฉ
05:11
And I'd been extremely interested in this notion of randomness
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ู„ุทุงู„ู…ุง ูƒู†ุช ู…ุนู†ูŠุง ุจุดุฏู‡ ุจู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุนุดูˆุงุฆูŠุฉ.
05:14
as it produces architectural work
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ูˆุงู†ุชุงุฌู‡ ู„ู„ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ
05:16
and as it definitely connects to the notion of the city,
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ูˆูˆุตู„ู‡ ุจู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
05:18
an accretional notion of the city,
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ุงู„ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ู…ุชู†ุงู…ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
05:20
and that led to various ideas of organization.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃุฏูŠ ุฅู„ูŠ ุฃููƒุงุฑ ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ ุนู† ุงู„ู…ุคุณุณุฉ
05:23
And then this led to broader ideas of buildings
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ ุฃุฏูŠ ุฃููƒุงุฑ ุฃูˆุณุน ุนู† ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ
05:26
that come together through the multiplicity of systems.
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ูƒู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุชุฌู…ุนู‡ ู†ุธุงู… ุชุนุฏุฏูŠ
05:30
And it's not any single system that makes the work.
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ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ุธุงู… ูŠู†ุฌุฒ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจู…ูุฑุฏู‡
05:33
It's the relationship -- it's the dynamics between the systems --
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ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ู‡ ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู†ุงู…ูƒูŠุฉ ููŠู…ุง ุจูŠู†ู‡ุง
05:36
which have the power to transform and invent
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ุง ู„ู‡ุง ุงู„ู‚ูˆุฉ ู„ุชุญูˆู„ ูˆุชุฎุชุฑุน
05:39
and produce an architecture that is -- that would otherwise not exist.
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ูˆุชู†ุชุฌ ุนู…ุงุฑู‡ ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ู„ู‡ุง ุงู† ุชูƒูˆู† ุจุฎู„ุงู ุฐู„ูƒ
05:45
And those systems could be identified,
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ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุชุนุฑูŠูู‡ุง
05:47
and they could be grouped together.
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ูˆูŠู…ูƒู† ุชู‚ุณูŠู…ู‡ุง ุนู„ูŠ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช
05:48
And of course, today, with the technology of the computer
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ูˆุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ูˆุจูุถู„ ุชู‚ู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ
05:51
and with the rapid prototyping, etc., we have the mechanisms
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ูˆุงู„ู†ู…ุฐุฌุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฑุฆูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุชู†ุงู…ูŠุฉ ูˆ ู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ . ู…ุง ูˆูุฑ ู„ู†ุง ุงู„ุงู„ูŠุฉ
05:55
to understand and to respond to these systems,
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ู„ู„ุชุฌุงูˆุจ ูˆ ูู‡ู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ู‡
05:58
and to allow them to adjust to the various accommodations of functionalities
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ูˆุฅุนุทุงุฆู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุฌุงู„ ู„ุชุชุญูˆุฑ ุฅู„ูŠ ูˆุถุนูŠุงุช ูˆุธูŠูู‰ุฉ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ
06:03
because that's all we do.
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ู„ุงู† ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡
06:05
We're producing spaces that accommodate human activity.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ู†ุชุฌ ุญูŠุฒ ุชูˆุงูู‚ ู…ุน ุงู„ุงู†ุดุทุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ูŠุฉ
06:08
And what I'm interested in is not the styling of that,
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ูˆ ู…ุง ูŠู‡ู…ู†ูŠ ู„ูŠุณุช ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ
06:11
but the relationship of that as it enhances that activity.
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนุถุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุดุงุท
06:17
And that directly connects to ideas of city-making.
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ูˆุตู„ุชู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ุจููƒุฑุฉ ุตู†ุน ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
06:20
This is a project that we just finished in Penang
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุฃูƒู…ู„ุชู‡ ู„ุชูˆูŠ ููŠ ุจูŠู†ุงู†ุฌ
06:22
for a very, very large city project that came directly out of this process,
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ู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ู…ุฏู†ูŠ ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุฌุฏุง ูƒุงู† ู†ุชุงุฌุง ู…ุจุงุดุฑุง ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ
06:26
which is the result of the multiplicity of forces that produce it.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‡ูˆ ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ู„ู„ู‚ูˆู‰ ุงู„ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู†ุชุฌุชู‡
06:32
And the project -- again, enormous, enormous competition --
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ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน---- ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰--- ูƒุงู† ู…ู†ุงูุณู‡ ู‡ุงุฆู„ุฉ
06:34
on the Hudson River and in New York
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ููŠ ู†ู‡ุฑ ู‡ุฏุณู† ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ
06:36
that we were asked to do three years ago, which uses these processes.
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ุทู„ุจ ู…ู†ุง ู‚ุจู„ ุซู„ุงุซ ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุงู† ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ุŒ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู… ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ู‡ุฌ
06:39
And what you're looking at are possibilities that have to do
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ูˆ ู…ุง ุชู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุนู† ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ุงุช ูŠุชูˆุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ูุนู„ู‡ุง
06:42
with the generation of the city as one applies a methodology
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ู…ุน ุฌูŠู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ ูƒูˆุงุญุฏ ูŠุทุจู‚ ู…ู†ู‡ุฌูŠุฉ
06:48
that uses notions of these multiple forces,
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ุชุณุชุฎุฏู… ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ู‚ูˆูŠ ุงู„ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ
06:51
that deals with the enormity of the problem, the complexity of the problem,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ุง ุชุชูุงุนู„ ู…ุน ุดู†ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉุŒ ุชุนู‚ูŠุฏ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ
06:56
when we're designing cities at larger and larger aggregates.
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ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ู†ุตู…ู… ู…ุฏู† ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุทุงู‚ ุชุฌู…ุนุงุช ุฃูƒุจุฑ ูˆุงูƒุจุฑ
06:59
Because one of the issues today is
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ู„ุงู† ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„ ุงู„ูŠูˆู…
07:01
that the economic aggregate is driving the development aggregate,
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ุงู† ุงู„ุชุฌู…ุน ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู‚ูˆุฏ ุงู„ุชุฌู…ุน ุงู„ุชู†ู…ูˆูŠ
07:06
and as the aggregates get larger we require
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ูˆ ู…ุน ุชูˆุณุน ุงู„ุชุฌู…ุนุงุช ู†ุชุทู„ุจ
07:08
more and more complex investigation processes to solve these problems.
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ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ูˆุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุญุฑูƒ ุงู„ุฏู‚ูŠู‚ ู„ุญู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„
07:13
And that led us directly to the Olympic Village.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠู‚ูˆุฏู†ุง ู…ุจุงุดุฑ ู„ู„ู‚ุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ุงูˆู„ู…ุจูŠุฉ
07:16
I was in New York on Monday presenting it to the IOC.
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ูƒู†ุช ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ ูŠูˆู… ุงู„ุงุซู†ูŠู† ุฃู‚ุฏู… ุนุฑุถุง ู„ู„ุฌู†ุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู…ุจูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ูŠุฉ (IOC)
07:19
We won the competition -- what was it, nine months ago?
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ูุฒู†ุง ุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงู‚ุตุฉ ...ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ุŒ ู‚ุจู„ ุชุณุนุฉ ุฃุดู‡ุฑ
07:23
Again, a direct reflection from using these processes
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ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุŒ ุงู†ุนูƒุงุณ ู…ุจุงุดุฑ ู„ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ู‡ุฌ
07:26
to develop extremely complicated, very large-scale organisms.
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ู„ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ูƒูŠุงู† ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุฌุฏุง ุŒ ุบุงูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุนู‚ูŠุฏ
07:31
And then, also, was working with broad strategies.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ุฃูŠุถุง ูŠุนู…ู„ ุจุงุณุชุฑุงุชูŠุฌูŠุงุช ุฐุงุช ุทูŠู ูˆุงุณุน
07:34
In this case, we only used 15 of the 60 acres of land,
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ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญุงู„ุฉ ุŒ ุงุณุชุนู…ู„ู†ุง ูู‚ุท 15 ู…ู† ุฃุตู„ 60 ู‡ูƒุชุงุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ .
07:39
and the 45 acres was a park and would become the legacy of the Olympic Village.
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ูˆุงู„ 45 ู‡ูƒุชุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุชุจู‚ูŠุฉ ุงุณุชุนู…ู„ุช ูƒู…ุชู†ุฒู‡ ุณูŠุตุจุญ ุงุฑุซุง ู„ู„ู‚ุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ูˆู„ู…ุจูŠุฉ
07:43
And it would become the second largest park in the boroughs, etc.
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ูˆุณุชุตุจุญ ุซุงู†ูŠ ุฃูƒุจุฑ ู…ุชู†ุฒู‡ ุนู„ูŠ ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ (ุจุฑูˆุบ)...ูˆู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ
07:47
Its position, of course, in the middle of Manhattan -- it's on Hunter's Point.
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ู…ูˆู‚ุนู‡ ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุŒ ููŠ ูˆุณุท ู…ู†ู‡ุงุชู† . ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู…ูŠุฒ ุฌุฏุง
07:51
And then the broader ideas of city-making
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ู…ู† ุซู… ุนู„ูŠ ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ุฃุนู„ู‰ ุŒ ุฅู† ููƒุฑุฉ ุตู†ุน ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
07:55
start having direct influences on architecture,
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ุจุฏุฃุช ุชุคุซุฑ ุชุฃุซูŠุฑุง ู…ุจุงุดุฑุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ูƒูƒู„
07:58
on the elements that make up the broader scheme,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนู†ุงุตุฑ ุงู„ู…ูƒูˆู†ุฉ ู„ูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุฎุทุท
08:01
the buildings themselves, and start guiding us.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ ู†ูุณู‡ุง ุŒ ูˆุจุฏุฃุช ุชู‚ูˆุฏ ุงุชุฌุงู‡ู†ุง
08:06
Architecture for me has been an investigation of a multiplicity of forces
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ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุชุญุฑูŠ ู„ู„ู‚ูˆู‰ ุงู„ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ
08:10
that could come from literally any place.
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจุงุณุชุทุงุนุชู‡ุง ุงู† ุชุฃุชูŠ ู…ู† ุฃูŠ ู…ูƒุงู†
08:12
And so I can start this discussion in any number of places,
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ู„ุฐุง ูุฃู†ูŠ ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู† ุงุจุฏุฃ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญูˆุงุฑ ููŠ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ู…ุชุนุฏุฏุฉ
08:16
and I've chosen three or four to talk about.
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ูˆ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุฎุชุฑุช ุซู„ุงุซ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุฑุจุน ู„ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡ุง
08:19
And it has also to do with an interest in
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ูˆ ู‡ูŠ ุฃูŠุถุง ู„ู‡ุง ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…
08:24
the vast kind of territory that architecture touches.
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ุจุงู„ู†ุทุงู‚ ุงู„ุดุงุณุน ุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู…ุณู‡ุง ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ
08:28
It literally is connected to anything in terms of knowledge base.
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ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ุง ุชูˆุตู„ ุจุฃูŠ ุดูŠุก ุงุณุชู†ุงุฏุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุณุงุณ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑููŠ
08:33
There's just no place that it doesn't somehow
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ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุง ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ูƒุงู† ู„ุง ูŠู…ู„ูƒ
08:36
have a connective tissue to.
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ู†ุณูŠูŠุฌ ุชูˆุตูŠู„ูŠ ู„ูƒูŠ
08:38
This is Jim Dine, and it's the absence of presence, etc.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุฌูŠู… ุฏูŠู†ุŒ ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุบูŠุงุจ ุงู„ุญุถูˆุฑ ...ูˆ ู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ
08:41
It's the clothing, the skin, without the presence of the character.
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ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ู…ู„ุจุณุŒ ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ุŒ ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠุฉ
08:45
It became kind of an idea for the notion of the surface of a work,
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ุชุตุจุญ ู†ูˆุนู‡ ู…ุง ููƒุฑู‡ ู„ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุณุทุญ ู„ุนู…ู„ ู…ุง
08:49
and it was used in a project where we could unravel that surface,
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ูˆ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุณุชุฎุฏู…ุช ููŠ ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุญูŠุซ ุงุณุชุทุนู†ุง ุงู„ูƒุดู ุนู† ุงู„ุณุทุญ
08:54
and it was a figurative idea that was going to be folded
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ูˆ ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ููƒุฑู‡ ุฑู…ุฒูŠุฉ ูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุทุฑูŠู‚ู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู† ุชุทูˆูŠ
08:58
and made into a very, kind of complex space.
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ูˆุชูุดูƒู„ ุฅู„ูŠ ุญูŠุฒ ู…ุฑูƒุจ ู„ุทูŠู
09:01
And the idea was the relationship of the space,
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ูˆุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ูƒุงู†ุช ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุญูŠุฒ
09:04
which was made up of the fold of the image,
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ุงู„ู…ุตู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุทูŠ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ
09:07
and the dialectic or the conflict between the figuration,
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ูˆ ุฌุฏู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุตุฑุงุน ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฑู…ูˆุฒ
09:12
and the clarity of the image
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ูˆุฅู„ูŠ ุญุฏ ู…ุง ูˆุถูˆุญ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ
09:14
and the complexity of the space, which were in dialog.
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ูˆ ุชุนู‚ูŠุฏ ุงู„ุญูŠุฒ ุŒ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ููŠ ุญูˆุงุฑ
09:17
And it made us rethink the whole notion of how we work
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ูŠุฌู„ุนู†ุง ู†ุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุนู…ู„ู†ุง ูƒูƒู„
09:20
and how we make things,
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ูˆูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุนู…ู„ู†ุง ู„ู„ุงุดูŠุงุก
09:22
and it led us to ideas that were closer to fashion design as we flattened out surfaces,
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ู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆุฏู†ุง ู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ ู‚ุฑูŠุจุฉ ู…ู† ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุงู„ุงุฒูŠุงุก ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ู†ุณูˆูŠ ุงู„ุณุทูˆุญ
09:28
and then brought them back together as they could make spatial combinations.
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ู…ู† ุซู… ุฃุนุฏุช ุงู„ุณุทูˆุญ ู„ูƒูŠ ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ุชูˆุงู„ูŠู ุญูŠุฒูŠุฉ
09:31
And this was the first prototype in Korea,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุงู„ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ ููŠ ูƒูˆุฑูŠุง
09:34
as we're dealing with a dynamic envelope,
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ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ูƒู†ุง ู†ุชุนุงู…ู„ ู…ุน ู…ุธุฑูˆู ุฏูŠู†ุงู…ูŠูƒูŠ
09:37
and then the same characteristic of the fabric.
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ู…ู† ุซู… ู†ูุณ ุตูุงุช ุงู„ู†ุณูŠุฌ
09:40
It has a material identity and it's translucent and it's porous,
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ู„ู‡ ู‡ูˆูŠุฉ ู…ุงุฏูŠุฉุŒ ุดูุงูุฉ ูˆู…ุณุงู…ูŠุฉ
09:45
and it allows us for a very different notion of what a skin of a building is.
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ู…ุง ุณู…ุญ ู„ู†ุง ุจุทุฑู‚ ุนุฏูŠุฏุฉ... ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ู„ู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ
09:49
And that turned right away into another project.
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ู…ู…ุง ุฃุฎุฐู†ุง ุงู„ูŠ ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุงุฎุฑ
09:51
This is the Caltrans building in Los Angeles.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูƒุงู„ุชุฑุงู†ุณ ููŠ ู„ูˆุณ ุฃู†ุฌู„ุณ
09:54
And now we're seeing as the skin and the body is differentiated.
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ูˆุงู„ุฃู† ู†ุฑูŠ ู…ุง ูŠุดุจู‡ ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ุงู„ุฌุณู… ู…ุชู…ุงูŠุฒูŠู†
09:58
Again, it's a very, very simple notion.
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ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ู…ุจุณุท ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ
10:00
If you look at most buildings,
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ุฅุฐุง ู†ุธุฑุช ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ
10:02
what you look at is the building, the facade, and it is the building.
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ู…ุง ุชู†ุธุฑ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ู‰ ุŒ ุงู„ูˆุงุฌู‡ุฉุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ู‰
10:04
And all of a sudden we're kind of moving away,
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ูˆูุฌุงุกุฉ ูˆ ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุง ู†ุจุชุนุฏ ุชู…ุงู…ุง
10:06
and we're separating the skin from the body,
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ูˆู†ูุตู„ ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌุณู…
10:08
and that's going to lead to broader performance criteria,
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ู…ู…ุง ุณูŠู‚ูˆุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุนุงูŠูŠุฑ ุฃูˆุณุน ู„ู„ุงุฏุงุก
10:10
which I'm going to talk about in a minute.
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ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ุณุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡ุง ุจุนุฏ ู‚ู„ูŠู„
10:12
And you're looking at how it drapes over
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ุฃู†ุชู… ุชู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุฅู„ูŠ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุซู†ูŠ
10:14
and differentiates from the body.
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ูˆู…ู…ุงูŠุฒุฉ ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ุนู† ุงู„ุฌุณู…
10:16
And then, again, the building itself,
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ุซู… ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ู†ูุณู‡
10:19
middle of Los Angeles, right across from City Hall.
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ูˆุณุท ู„ูˆุณ ุฃู†ุฌู„ุณ . ููŠ ุงู„ุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุฉ ู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏูŠุฉ
10:22
And as it moves, it takes pieces of the earth with it. It bends up.
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ูˆุจูŠู†ู…ุง ุชุชุญุฑูƒ ุชุฃุฎุฐ ุฃุฌุฒุงุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุฏ ู…ุนู‡ุง .. ูˆ ุชู†ุญู†ูŠ
10:25
It's part of a sign system,
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ู†ุธุงู… ุงุดุงุฑู‡ ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง
10:27
which was part of the kind of legacy of Los Angeles --
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ูƒุงู†ุช ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุชุฑุงุซ ู„ูˆุณ ุฃู†ุฌู„ุณ
10:29
the two-dimension, three-dimension signing, etc.
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ุซู†ุงุฆูŠ ุงู„ุฃุจุนุงุฏุŒ ุชุฃุดูŠุฑ ุซู„ุงุซูŠ ุงู„ุงุจุนุงุฏ ูˆ ู‡ู„ู…ุฌุฑุง
10:33
And then it allows one to penetrate the work itself.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ุชุณู…ุญ ู„ู„ู…ุฑุก ุจุงุฎุชุฑุงู‚ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ู†ูุณู‡
10:37
It's transparent, and it allows you to understand, I think,
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ูู‡ูŠ ุดูุงูุฉ ูˆุชุณู…ุญ ู„ูƒ ุจุงู† ุชูู‡ู… . ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ุฃุธู†
10:41
what is always the most interesting thing in any building,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุดูŠุก ู…ุซูŠุฑ ู„ู„ุงู†ุชุจุงู‡ ููŠ ุฃูŠ ู…ุจู†ูŠ
10:43
which is the actual constructional processes that make it.
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ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุดูŠูŠุฏ ู‡ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณุฆูˆู„ุฉ ุนู† ุฅุจุฑุงุฒู‡
10:46
And it's probably the most intense kind of territory
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ูˆ ู‡ูŠ ุฅู„ูŠ ุญุฏ ู…ุง ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ
10:51
of the work, which is not occupied,
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ููŠ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ู„ูƒู†ู‡ุง ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุณุชูˆุนุจุฉ
10:53
because architecture is always the most interesting in some mechanism
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ู„ุงู† ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ู…ุง ุชูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฅุซุงุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ููŠ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุงู„ูŠุงุช
10:56
when it's separated from function,
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ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ุชูุตู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุธูŠูุฉ
10:58
and this is an area that allows for that.
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ูˆ ู‡ู†ุง ู…ุณุงุญู‡ ู‚ุฏ ุชุณู…ุญ ุจุฐู„ูƒ
11:00
And then the skin starts transforming into other materials.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ูŠุจุฏุฃ ุงู„ุชุญูˆู„ ุฅู„ูŠ ู…ูˆุงุฏ ุฃุฎุฑู‰
11:03
We're using light as a building material in this case.
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ูˆ ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญุงู„ู‡ ุชู… ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุถูˆุก ูƒู…ุงุฏุฉ ุจู†ุงุก
11:05
We're working with Keith Sonnier in New York,
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ู†ุญู† ู†ุนู…ู„ ู…ุน ูƒูŠุซ ุณู†ุฑ ููŠ ู†ูŠูˆูŠูˆุฑูƒ
11:07
and we're making this large outside room,
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ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ูƒู†ุง ู†ุนู…ู„ ููŠ ุชุดูŠูŠุฏ ุบุฑูุฉ ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ
11:09
which is possible in Los Angeles, and which is very much reflective
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ุงู…ุฑ ู…ู…ูƒู† ููŠ ู„ูˆุณ ุงู†ุฌู„ูŠุณุŒ ูˆ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ุจุนูŠุฏ ุชุนูƒุณ
11:13
of the urban, the contemporary urban environments
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ุงู„ุจุนุถ ุงู„ู…ุฏู†ูŠ ูˆุงู„ุจูŠุฆู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฏู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุฉ
11:16
that you would find in Shibuya or you'd find in Mexico City
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌุฏู‡ุง ููŠ ุดูŠุจูˆูŠุฉ ูƒู…ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู† ุชุฌุฏู‡ุง ููŠ ู…ูƒุณูƒูˆ ุณูŠุชูŠ
11:19
or Sao Paulo, etc.,
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ุฃูˆ ููŠ ุณุงูˆ ุจุงูˆู„ูˆ ูˆ ู‡ู„ู…ุฌุฑุง
11:21
that have to do with activating the city over a longer span of time.
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ูˆ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุจุชูุนูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠ ุงู„ุทูˆูŠู„
11:25
And that was very much part of the notion
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ุจุนูŠุฏ ู…ุฑุชุจุท ุจู…ูู‡ูˆู…
11:27
of the urban objective of this project in Los Angeles.
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ุงู„ู‡ุฏู ุงู„ู…ุฏู†ูŠ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ููŠ ู„ูˆุณ ุฃู†ุฌู„ุณ
11:31
And, again, all of it promoting transparency.
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ูˆ ูŠุนู…ู„ ูƒูƒู„ ุนู„ูŠ ุชุนุฒูŠุฒ ุงู„ุดูุงููŠุฉ
11:35
And an image which may be closest talks about the use of light as a medium,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุฃู‚ุฑุจ ู…ุง ุชูƒูˆู† ุชุนุจุฑ ุนู† ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุถูˆุก ูƒูˆุณูŠุท
11:42
that light becomes literally a building material.
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุตุจุญ ุงู„ุถูˆุก ุฃุญุฏ ู…ูˆุงุฏ ุงู„ุจู†ุงุก
11:45
Well, that immediately turned into something much broader, and as a scope.
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุฃุฎุฐู†ุง ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ุฅู„ูŠ ุงู…ุฑ ุฃูˆุณุน.
11:49
And again, we're looking at an early sketch
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ู‡ู†ุง ู†ุญู† ู†ู†ุธุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุฎุทุท ุฃูˆู„ูŠ
11:53
where I'm understanding now
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ุญูŠุซ ู…ุง ุฃูู‡ู…ู‡ ุงู„ุฃู†
11:55
that the skin can be a transition between the ground and the tower.
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ุงู† ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุงู†ุชู‚ุงู„ูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุงู„ูŠ ุงู„ุจุฑุฌ
11:58
This is a building in San Francisco which is under construction.
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุจู†ูŠ ููŠ ุณู† ูุฑุงู†ุณูŠุณูƒูˆ ู…ุง ุฒุงู„ ุชุญุช ุงู„ุชุดูŠูŠุฏ
12:01
And now it turned into something much, much broader as a problem,
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ูˆุงู„ุงู† ุชุญูˆู„ ุงู„ูŠ ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ุดูƒู„ู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุทุงู‚ ูˆุงุณุน
12:05
and it has to do with performance.
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ููŠู…ุง ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุงู„ุฃุฏุงุก
12:07
This will be the first building in the United States that took --
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ู‡ุฐุง ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุฃูˆู„ ู…ุจู†ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู„ุงูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชุญุฏุฉ ุฃุฎุฐ..
12:10
well, I can't say it took the air conditioning out. It's a hybrid.
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ู„ุง ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุงู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู‡ ุฃุฎุฑุฌ ู†ุธุงู… ุชูƒู‰ูŠู ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงุก ู„ู„ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ ู‡ุฌูŠู†
12:12
I wanted a pure thing, and I can't get it.
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ุฃุฑุฏุช ุดูŠุฆุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู†ู‚ุงุก ุŒ ู„ู… ุฃุณุชุทูŠุน ุฅูŠุฌุงุฏู‡
12:14
It's a wrong attitude, actually, because the hybrid is probably more interesting.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุฎุงุทูŠุก ุŒ ู„ุงู† ุงู„ู‡ุฌูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชู…ู„ ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฌุฐุจุง ู„ู„ุงู†ุชุจุงู‡
12:17
But we took the air conditioning out of the tower.
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃุฎุฑุฌู†ุง ุชูƒูŠู ุฃู„ู‡ูˆุงุก ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงู„ุจุฑุฌ
12:19
There's some air conditioning left in the base,
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุชูƒูŠู ุชุฑูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ
12:21
but the skin now moves on hydraulics.
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู†ู…ุถูŠ ุจุงุชุฌุงู‡ ุชู‡ุฌูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ
12:23
It forces air through a Venturi force if there's no wind.
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ุญูŠุซ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุฏุฎู„ ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงุก ุนุจุฑ ุจุงู„ุถุฎ ุฅู† ู„ู… ุชุชูˆูุฑ ุงู„ุฑูŠุงุญ
12:27
It adjusts continually. And we removed the air conditioning.
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ุญูŠุซ ุชุนุฏู„ ุชู„ู‚ุงุฆูŠุง ุจุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑ ุŒ ูˆุจุฐู„ูƒ ุชุฎู„ุตู†ุง ู…ู† ู†ุธุงู… ุงู„ุชูƒูŠูŠู
12:30
Huge, huge thing. Half a million dollars a year delta.
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ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุถุฎู… ุฌุฏุง ูุฑู‚ ู†ุตู ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ุฏูˆู„ุงุฑ ุณู†ูˆูŠุง
12:34
10 of these -- it's just under a million square feet --
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10 ู…ู†ู‡ุง ุชุญุชู„ ูู‚ุท ู…ู„ูŠูˆู† ู‚ุฏู… ู…ุฑุจุน
12:36
800 and some thousand square feet --
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ู†ุญูˆ ุซู…ุงู†ู…ุงุฆุฉ ุฃู„ู ู‚ุฏู… ู…ุฑุจุน
12:38
10 of these would power Sausalito -- the delta on this.
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10 ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‚ุงุฏุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠ ุชุฒูˆูŠุฏ ุณูˆุณุงู„ูŠุชูˆ ุจุงู„ุทุงู‚ุฉ
12:41
And so now what we're looking at, as the projects get larger in scale,
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ู…ุง ุชู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุงู„ูŠู‡ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ู‰ูƒุจุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‚ูŠุงุณ
12:44
as they interface with broader problems,
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ูƒู„ู…ุง ูˆุฌู‡ ุจู…ุดุฃูƒู„ ุฃูˆุณุน
12:49
that they expand the capabilities
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠุชุณุน ุฃูˆุฌู‡ ู…ู‚ุฏุฑุงุชู‡
12:52
in terms of their performance.
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ู…ู† ุญูŠุซ ุงู„ุฃุฏุงุก
12:55
Well, I could also start here.
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ุญุณู†ุงุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ูŠ ุฃูŠุถุง ุงู„ุจุฏุก ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุง
12:57
We could talk about the relationship
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ูŠูƒู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ
12:59
at a more biological sense of the relationship of building and ground.
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ู…ู† ู†ุทุฑู‡ ุญูŠูˆูŠุฉ ู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ูˆุงู„ุฃุฑุถ
13:03
Well, our research -- my generation for sure,
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ุญุณู†ุง ุŒ ุฅู† ุจุญูˆุซู†ุง ...ุฌูŠู„ู‰ ุจู„ุทุจุน
13:06
people who were going to school in the late '60s --
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ุงู„ุฌูŠู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุฑุชุฏ ุงู„ุฌุงู…ุนู‡ ููŠ ุฃูˆุงุฎุฑ ุงู„ุณุชูŠู†ุงุช
13:08
made very much a shift out of the internal focus of architecture,
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ุฃุญุฏุซ ุทูุฑุฉ ู‡ุงุฆู„ุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒ ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„ูŠ ู„ู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ
13:14
looking at architecture within its own territory,
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ู†ุธุฑุง ู„ู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุนู…ู‚ู‡ุง ุงู„ุฎุงุต
13:16
and we were much more affected by film,
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ูˆูƒู†ุง ู…ุชุงุซุฑูŠู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ุจุนูŠุฏ ุจุงู„ุงูู„ุงู…
13:18
by what was going on in the art world, etc.
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ูˆ ู…ูƒุงู† ูŠุฏูˆุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ูˆ ู…ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ
13:20
This is, of course, Michael Heizer.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ู…ุงูŠูƒู„ ู‡ุฒุงุฑ
13:22
And when I saw this, first an image and then visited,
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ู„ู…ุง ุฑุฃูŠุชู‡ ูƒุตูˆุฑุฉ ุฃูˆู„ุง ุซู… ู‚ู…ุช ุจุฒูŠุงุฑุชู‡
13:26
it completely changed the way I thought after that point.
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ุบูŠุฑุช ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชููƒูŠุฑูŠ ูƒู„ูŠุง
13:30
And I understood that building really could be
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ูˆูู‡ู…ุช ุงู† ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†
13:32
the augmentation of the Earth's surface,
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ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงู…ุชุฏุงุฏ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนูŠ ู„ุณุทุญ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ
13:34
and it completely shifted the notion of building ground in the most basic sense.
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ูˆ ุจุตูˆุฑุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ุนุถุฏุช ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุฃุฑุถูŠุฉ ุงู„ุจู†ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุชุฃุตู„ุฉ ู„ุฏูŠ
13:39
And then -- well, he was probably looking at this -- this is Nazca;
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ู…ู† ุซู… ุŒ ุญุณู†ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ู…ูƒู† ุงู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‚ุฏ ู†ุธุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ...ู‡ุฐู‡ ู†ุฒูƒุง
13:42
this is 700 years ago -- the most amazing four-kilometer land sculptures.
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ู‡ุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุณุจุนู…ุงุฆุฉ ุนุงู… --- ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ู…ุฏู‡ุดู‡ ....ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ู†ุญุช ุงู„ู…ู…ุชุฏ ู„ุงุฑุจุนุฉ ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑุงุช
13:49
They're just totally incredible.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠุตุฏู‚
13:51
And that led us to then completely rethinking how we draw, how we work.
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ู…ุง ู‚ุงุฏู†ุง ุฅู„ูŠ ุงุนุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชููƒูŠุฑ ููŠ ูƒูŠููŠู‡ ุงู„ุฑุณู… ูˆ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุนู…ู„
13:55
This is the first sketch of a high school in Pomona --
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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุฎุทุท ุฃูˆู„ูŠ ู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงู†ูˆูŠุฉ ููŠ ุจูˆู…ู†ุง
13:58
well, whatever it is, a model, a conceptual, kind of idea.
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ุญุณู†ุง ุฃูŠุง ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ... ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุฌุณู… ุŒ ุนู…ู„ ุชุฎูŠู„ูŠ ู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน
14:02
And it's the reshaping of the Earth to make it occupiable.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงุนุงุฏู‡ ุชู‡ูŠูŠุฆู‡ ู„ู„ุฃุฑุถ ู„ุชุตุจุญ ู‚ุฃุจู„ู‡ ู„ุฃู† ุชุนู…ู‘ุฑ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุจุดุฑ
14:06
So it puts 200,000 square feet of stuff that make a high school work
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ูู‡ูŠ ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุชุฌู…ุน 200000 ู‚ุฏู… ู…ุฑุจุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุงุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุดูƒู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุซุงู†ูˆูŠุฉ
14:11
in the surface of that Earth.
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ููŠ ุณุทุญ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ุทุนู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ
14:13
There it is modeled as it was developing into a piece of work.
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ูˆ ู‡ู†ุง ุชู… ุชุฌุณูŠู…ู‡ุง ู„ุชุตุจุญ ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง ุชุทูˆุฑ ู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ูŠ ุนู…ู„
14:16
And there it is, again, as it's starting to get resolved tectonically,
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ุซู… ุงู†ุชู‡ูŠ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุงู„ูŠ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุŒ ุจุฏุฃุช ุชุทูˆุฑ ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠุง
14:20
and then there's the school.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ู‡ุงู‡ูŠ ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ู…ูƒุชู…ู„ุฉ
14:22
And, of course,
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ูˆุจุงู„ุทุจุน . ุฅู† ู…ุซุงุฑ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ู†ุง
14:24
we're interested in participating with education.
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ู†ุญู† ู…ู‡ุชู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ู…ุดุงุฑูƒุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ
14:26
I have absolutely no interest in producing a building
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ู„ุณุช ู…ู‡ุชู…ุฉ ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ุง ุจุฅู†ุชุงุฌ ู…ุจู†ูŠ
14:28
that just accommodates X, Y and Z function.
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ูู‚ุท ู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุณุบู„ ุญูŠุฒ ุซู„ุงุซูŠ ุงู„ุฃุจุนุฏ
14:30
What I'm interested in are how these ideas
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ู…ุซุงุฑ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ูŠ ู‡ูˆ ูƒูŠู ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงููƒุงุฑ
14:32
participate in the educational process of young people.
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ุฃู† ุชุดุงุฑูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ู„ู„ุฌูŠู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุดูŠุก
14:35
It demands some sort of notion of inquiry
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ุงู†ู‡ุง ุชุชุทู„ุจ ู†ูˆุนู‡ ู…ุง ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ุชู‚ุตูŠ
14:37
because it's a system that's developed not sculpturally.
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ู†ุธุงู… ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ุชูˆุตู„ ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุจุงู„ู†ุญุช
14:39
It's an idea that started from my first discussion.
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ุฅู†ู‡ุง ููƒุฑู‡ ุชู… ุงุณุชูŠุญุงุฆู‡ุง ู…ู† ุฃูˆู„ ุญุฏูŠุซูŠ
14:42
It has to do with a broad, consistent logic,
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ุชุชุนู„ู‚ ุจู…ู†ุทู‚ ุฃูˆุณุน ูˆู…ุชุณู‚
14:45
and that logic could be understood as one occupies the building.
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ู…ุฑุก ุงู† ูŠูู‡ู…ู‡ ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุงู† ูŠุดุบู„ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ
14:49
And there's an overt -- at least,
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ูˆ ู‡ู†ู„ูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงู‚ู„ ุตุฑุงุญู‡
14:51
there's an attempt to make a very overt notion of a building
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ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุฉ ู„ุงุจุฏุงุก ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุจูŠู† ุนู† ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ
14:54
that connects to the land in a very different way
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ูŠุตู„ู‡ ุจุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุจุทุฑู‚ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ
14:56
because I was interested in a very didactic approach to the problem,
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ูˆ ู„ุงู† ู…ุญู„ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ูŠ ุฐูˆ ู…ู†ุญูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠ ู„ู„ุชุนุงู…ู„ ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ู‡
14:59
as one would understand that.
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ูƒูŠู…ุง ูŠุชุณู†ู‰ ู„ู„ู…ุฑุก ูู‡ู… ุฐู„ูƒ
15:01
And the second project that was just finished in Los Angeles
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ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุงู„ุซุงู†ูŠ ุงูƒุชู…ู„ ู„ุชูˆู‡ ููŠ ู„ูˆุณ ุงู†ุฌู„ูŠุณ
15:03
that uses some of the same ideas. It uses landscape as a major idea.
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ูˆ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชู… ููŠู‡ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุจุนุฏ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ ุŒ ุชู… ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ุงู„ุจุณุชู†ุฉ ูƒููƒุฑุฉ ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠุฉ
15:07
Then, again, we're doing the headquarters for NOAA --
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ุซู… ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุŒ ู†ุญู† ู†ุนู…ู„ ู…ุจู†ูŠ ุงู„ุฑุฆุงุณุฉ ู„ NOAA
15:10
National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Agency --
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ุงู„ูˆูƒุงู„ุฉ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู…ูŠู‡ ู„ุฌุบุฑุงููŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุญูŠุทุงุช ูˆุงู„ุบู„ุงู ุงู„ุฌูˆูŠ
15:13
outside of Washington in Maryland.
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ุฎุงุฑุฌ ูˆุงุดู†ุฌุชูˆู† ููŠ ู…ุงุฑูŠู„ุงู†ุฏ
15:15
And this is how they see the world.
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ูˆ ู‡ูƒุฐุง ูŠู†ุธุฑูˆู† ู„ู„ุนุงู„ู…
15:17
They have 22 satellites zipping around at plus or minus 100 miles,
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ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู… 22 ู‚ู…ุฑ ุตู†ุงุนูŠ ูŠุฏูˆุฑูˆู† ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ุจู…ุฏุงุฑุช ุชุชุฑุงูˆุญ ุงู„ู…ุงุฆุฉ ู…ูŠู„
15:21
and the site's in red.
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ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุจุงู„ู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุญู…ุฑ
15:23
And what we really want to do -- well, the architects,
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ูˆ ู…ุง ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ูุนู„ู‡ ...ุญุณู†ุง ุงู„ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ
15:26
if there are architects out there, this is the Laugier Hut;
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ู„ูˆ ุงู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠูŠู† ...ู‡ุฐุง ูƒูˆุฎ ู„ุงูˆู‚ุฑ
15:29
this is the primitive hut that's been around for so long --
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ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ูƒูˆุฎ ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ู„ู…ุฏู‡ ุทูˆูŠู„ู‡
15:31
and what we wanted to do is really build this,
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ูˆ ุฃุฑุฏู†ุง ูุนู„ู‡ ุญู‚ุง ู‡ูˆ ุจู†ุงุก ู‡ุฐุง
15:33
because they see themselves as the caretakers of the world,
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ู… ูŠุฑูˆู† ุฃู†ูุณู‡ู… ุงู„ุฑุนุงุฉ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠูˆู† ู„ู„ุนุงู„ู…
15:37
and we wanted them to look down at their satellite,
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ูˆ ู†ุญู† ู†ุฑูŠุฏู‡ู… ุงู† ูŠู†ุธุฑูˆุง ู„ุงู‚ู…ุงุฑู‡ู…
15:39
how they see their own site, that eight-acre site,
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ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุจู‡ุง ู„ู…ูˆู‚ุนู‡ู… ...ุชู„ูƒ ู„ุซู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ ู‡ูƒุชุงุฑุงุช
15:41
and we wanted nothing left. We wanted it to stay green.
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ู„ุง ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ุฃูŠ ุดูŠุก ุฎู„ูู†ุง ... ุฃุฑุฏู†ุง ู„ู‡ ุงู† ูŠุจู‚ูŠ ุฃุฎุถุฑุง
15:44
There's actually three baseball fields on it right now,
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ููŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู† ุจู‡ ุซู„ุงุซู‡ ู…ู„ุงุนุจ ุจูŠุณุจูˆู„ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุญุงู„ูŠ
15:46
and they're going to stay there.
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ูˆ ุณูŠุจู‚ูˆุง ู‡ู†ุงู„ูƒ
15:47
We put one piece directly north-south,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ูˆุถุนู†ุง ู‚ุทุนู‡ ูˆุงุญุฏู‡ ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„ ุงู„ุดุฑู‚ูŠ
15:49
and it holds the dishes at the ears, right?
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ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ูŠุญู…ู„ ุงู„ุตุญูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุฐุงู†ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ
15:52
And then right below that the processing, and the mission lift,
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ูˆ ุชุญุช ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ุงู„ุชุฌู‡ูŠุฒ ุŒ ูˆู…ุตุนุฏ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ
15:55
and the mission control room, and all the other spaces are underground.
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ุซู… ุบุฑูุฉ ุงู„ู…ุฑุงู‚ุจุฉ ุŒ ูˆ ูƒู„ ุจู‚ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุญูˆุงุฆุฒ ูู‡ูŠ ุชุญุช ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ
15:59
And what you look at is an aircraft carrier
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ุฃู…ุง ู…ุง ุชู†ุธุฑูˆู† ุฅู„ูŠู‡ ุญุงู…ู„ู‡ ุทุงุฆุฑุงุช
16:01
that's performance-driven by the cone vision of these satellite dishes.
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ู…ุณุชูˆุญุงู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุดูƒู„ ุงู„ู…ุฎุฑูˆุทูŠ ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงุทุจุงู‚
16:05
And that the building itself is occupied in the lower portion,
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ู…ู…ุง ูŠุดูƒู„ ุฃู‚ู„ ู†ุณุจุฉ ุงุณุชูŠุนุงุจ ู„ู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ููŠ ุญุฏ ุฐุงุชู‡
16:09
broken up by a series of courts,
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ู…ู†ูุตู„ุฉ ุจุนุฏุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ูู†ุงุกุงุช
16:11
and it's five acres of uninterrupted, horizontal space
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ูˆ ุฎู…ุณุฉ ู‡ูŠูƒุชุงุฑุงุช ู…ุชุตู„ุฉ ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆูŠ ุงู„ุงูู‚ูŠ
16:14
for their administrative offices.
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ู„ู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ุงุฏุงุฑูŠู‡
16:17
And then that, in turn, propelled us to look at
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ู…ู† ุซู… ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุฏูุนู†ุง ู„ู†ู†ุธุฑ ุฅู„ู‰
16:20
larger-scale projects where this notion of landscape building interface
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ูˆ ุนู„ูŠ ู†ุทุงู‚ ุฃูˆุณุน ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุน ุญูŠุซ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุจุณุชู†ุฉ ูˆุงุฌู‡ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ
16:24
becomes a connective tissue.
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ุชุตุจุญ ู†ุณูŠุฌุง ุชูˆุตูŠู„ูŠุง
16:26
The new capital competition for Berlin, four years ago.
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ุงู„ู…ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ู„ู„ุนุงุตู…ุฉ ุจุฑู„ูŠู† ุŒ ู„ุงุฑุจุน ุณู†ูˆุงุช ู…ุถุช
16:32
And again we just finished the ECB --
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ู„ุชูˆู†ุง ุฃูƒู…ู„ู†ุง ุงู„ ECB
16:34
actually Coop Himmelblau in Vienna just won this project,
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ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู‡ูŠู…ู…ุงู„ุจุงู„ูˆ ููŠ ููŠู†ุง ูุงุฒ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน
16:37
where the building was separated into a series of landscape elements
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ุญูŠุซ ู‚ุณู… ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุฅู„ูŠ ุนุฏุฉ ุนู†ุงุตุฑ ุจุณุชุงู†ูŠุฉ
16:43
that became part of a connective tissue of a park,
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ู…ู…ุง ุดูƒู„ ุนู†ุตุฑุง ู…ูˆุตู„ุง ู…ุน ุงู„ุญุฏูŠู‚ุฉ
16:46
which is parallel to the river, and develops ideas of the buildings themselves
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูˆุงุฒูŠ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุฑ ูˆุชุทูˆุฑ ุฃููƒุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ ููŠ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช
16:52
and becomes part of the connective fabric --
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ูˆ ุชุตูŠุฑ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ู†ุณูŠุฌ ุชูˆุตูŠู„ูŠ
16:55
the social, cultural and the landscape, recreational fabric of the city.
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ุงู„ู†ุณูŠุฌ ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงููŠ ูˆุงู„ุจุณุชุงู†ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
17:00
And the building is no longer seen as an autonomous thing,
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ูˆ ู„ุง ูŠู†ุธุฑ ู„ู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ูƒุดูŠุก ู…ุณุชู‚ู„ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ
17:02
but something that's only inextricably connected
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ู„ูƒู† ุดูŠุก ู…ุชุตู„ ุจู„ุง ุงู†ูุตุงู…
17:04
to this city and this place at this time.
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ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ ูˆุงู„ู…ูƒุงู† ูˆุงู„ุฒู…ุงู†
17:06
And a project that was realized in Austria, the Hooper Bank,
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ููŠ ุงู„ู†ู…ุณุง . ุจู†ูƒ ู‡ูˆุจุฑ
17:10
which again used this idea of connecting typology,
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ูˆุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃูŠุถุง ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ููƒุฑู‡ ุฑู…ุฒูŠู‡ ุงู„ุชูˆุตูŠู„
17:13
the traditional buildings, and morphology,
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ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ ูˆุงู„ุดูƒู„ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ
17:16
or the relationship of the development of land as an idea,
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ุฃูˆ ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ุชุทูˆูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ูƒููƒุฑุฉ
17:19
into a complex, which is a piece of a city where we can see part of it
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ุงู„ูŠ ู…ุฌู…ุน ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ ุญูŠุซ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู†ู‡
17:23
is literally just this augmenting,
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ุฃู†ู‡ ู†ู…ูˆ ุจุงู„ู…ุนู†ูŠ ุงู„ุญุฑููŠ
17:25
this movement of the land that's a very simple idea of
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ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุญุฑูƒู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ู‡ูˆ ููƒุฑู‡ ู…ุจุณุทู‡ ู…ู†
17:28
just lifting it up and occupying it,
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ู†ูˆุนุง ู…ุง ุฑูุนู‡ุง ูˆ ุงุดุบุงู„ู‡ุง ู„ูŠุณ ุฅู„ุง
17:29
and other parts are much more energetic and intense.
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ูˆ ุฃุฌุฒุงุก ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุญูŠูˆูŠุฉ ูˆุงู†ูุนุงู„ุง
17:32
And talk about that intensity
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ูˆ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ูƒุซุงูุฉ
17:34
in terms of the collisions of the kind of events they make
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ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ุชุตุงุฏู… ุงู„ุงุญุฏุงุซ ุฅู† ุฌุงุฒ ู„ูŠ ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑ
17:38
that have to do with putting a series of systems together,
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ูƒู…ุง ู„ูˆ ุฃู†ูƒ ุชุถุน ุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุงู†ุธู…ุฉ ู…ุน ุจุนุฏู‡ุง ุงู„ุจุนุถ
17:40
and then where part of it is in the ground, part of it is oppositional lifts.
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ุญูŠุซ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฌุฒุก ู…ู†ู‡ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ูˆุงู„ุฌุฒุก ุงู„ุงุฎุฑ ู…ุฑููˆุน ููŠ ุงู„ุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุงูƒุณุฉ
17:44
One enters the building as it lifts off the ground,
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ุญูŠู†ู…ุง ูŠุฏุฎู„ ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏ ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ุชุฑูุน ุงู„ุฃุฑุถ ููŠ ู†ูุณ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช
17:47
and it becomes part of the idea.
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ูˆ ุชุตุจุญ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ููƒุฑู‡ ู†ูุณู‡ุง
17:49
And then the skin -- the edges of this --
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ --- ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญูˆุงู ู†ูˆุนู‡ ู…ุง
17:52
all promote the dynamic, the movement of the building
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ูƒู„ู‡ุง ุชุนุฒุฒ ุงู„ุญุฑูƒูŠุฉ ุŒ ูˆ ุญุฑูƒู‡ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ .
17:55
as a series of seismic shifts, geologic shifts. Right?
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ูƒุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ุชุญุฑูƒุงุช ุฒู„ุฒุงู„ูŠุฉุŒ ุชุญุฑูƒุงุช ุฌูŠูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุฉ ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ
18:00
And it makes for event space and then it breaks in places
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ู…ู…ุง ูŠุดูƒู„ ุญูŠุฒ ู„ู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุงุช ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ูŠุชุฌุฒุก ุงู„ูŠ ุนุฏุฉ ุฃู…ุงูƒู†
18:04
that allow you to peer into the interior, and those interiors, again,
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ู…ู…ุง ูŠุณู…ุญ ุจุงู„ู†ุธุฑ ุงู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„ ุŒ ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุชุตุงู…ูŠู… ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„ูŠุฉ
18:07
are promoting transparency for the workplace,
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ู…ุฑู‡ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุชุนุฒุฒ ุงู„ุดูุงููŠุฉ ุŒ ููŠ ู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุนู…ู„
18:09
which has been a continual interest of ours.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุทุงู„ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ู…ุญู„ ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู…ู†ุง
18:14
And then, again, in a more, kind of traditional setting,
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ูˆ ููŠ ุฅุทุงุฑ ู…ูˆุบู„ ููŠ ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ
18:17
this is a graduate student housing in Toronto,
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ู‡ุฐุง ุณูƒู† ุทู„ุจู‡ ุฏุฑุงุณุงุช ุนู„ูŠุง ููŠ ุชูˆุฑูˆู†ุชูˆ
18:19
and it's very much about the relationship of a building
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ูˆ ู‡ูˆ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ูƒุจูŠุฑ ุนู† ุนู„ุงู‚ู‡ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ
18:23
as it makes a connective tissue to the city.
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ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุดูƒู„ ููŠู‡ ู†ุณูŠุฌ ุชูˆุตูŠู„ูŠ ู„ู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ุฉ
18:25
The main idea was the gateway, where it breaks the site,
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ุงู„ููƒุฑู‡ ุงู„ุงุณุงุณูŠุฉ ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎู„ ุŒ ุญูŠุซ ุชูƒุณุฑ ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน
18:28
and the building occupies both the public space and the private space.
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ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠ ูŠุดุบู„ ูƒู„ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุงุญู‡ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ
18:32
And it's that territory of -- it's this thing.
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ูˆ ู„ู‡ุง ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ---ูƒู…ุง ุงู† ู„ู‡ุง ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดูŠุก
18:36
I visited the site many times, and everybody, kind of --
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฒุฑุช ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ุฑุงุช ุนุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุŒ ูˆ ุฃูŠ ุฃุญุฏ
18:39
you can see this from two kilometers away; it's an exact center of the street,
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู† ุชุฑูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ู…ู† ุจุนุฏ ูƒูŠู„ูˆู…ุชุฑูŠู† ููŠ ู…ู†ุชุตู ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุชู…ุงู…ุง
18:43
and the whole notion is to engage the public,
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ูˆ ูƒู„ ุงู„ููƒุฑู‡ ุงู† ุชุฌุฐุจ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ
18:45
to engage buildings as part of the public tissue of the city.
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ู„ูŠู†ุฎุฑุทูˆุง ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุจุงู†ูŠ ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุณูŠุฌ ุงู„ู…ุฏูŠู†ูŠ
18:51
And finally, one of the most interesting projects -- it's a courthouse.
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ูˆุงุฎูŠุฑุง ู…ู† ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุงู„ู…ุดุงุฑูŠุน ุงู„ู…ุซูŠุฑุฉ ู„ู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ูƒุงู† ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูƒู… \
18:55
And what I want to talk about -- this is the Supreme Court, of course --
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ูˆ ู…ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡ ---ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญูƒู…ุฉ ุงู„ุนู„ูŠุง ..ุจุงู„ุทุจุน
18:58
and, well, I'm dealing with Michael Hogan, the Chief Justice of Oregon.
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ูˆุญุณู†ุง ... ุฃู†ุง ุฃุชุนุงู…ู„ ู…ุน ู…ุงูŠูƒู„ ู‡ูˆุฌุงู† ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู‚ุถุงุฉ ูˆู„ุงูŠุฉ ุฃุฑุฌูˆู†
19:02
You could not proceed without making this negotiation
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ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุตู„ู‡ ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ ุงู† ุชู†ุฌุฒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ูุงูˆุถุฉ
19:06
between one's own values and the relationship
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ุจูŠู† ุงู„ู‚ูŠู… ุงู„ุฎุงุตู‡ ู„ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ู†ุง ูˆุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุฉ ู…ุน
19:10
of the character you're working with and how he understands the court,
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ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠู‡ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนู…ู„ ู…ุนู‡ุง ูˆ ูู‡ู…ู‡ ู„ู„ู…ุญูƒู…ุฉ
19:14
because I'm showing him, of course, Corbusier at Savoy,
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ู„ุงู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุงุฑูŠู‡ ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ูƒูˆุฑุจูˆุฒูŠู‡ ู( ุณุงููˆูŠ)
19:17
which is 1928, which is the beginning of modern architecture.
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ููŠ ุนุงู… 1928ุŒ ุญูŠุซ ูƒุงู†ุช ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนู…ุงุฑุฉ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุฉ
19:20
Well, then we get to this image.
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ุญุณู†ุง ุŒ ู…ู† ุซู… ุงู†ุชู‡ูŠู†ุง ุงู„ู‡ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ
19:23
And this is where the project started. Because I'm going,
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ูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุง ุงุจุชุฏุฃ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุŒ ู„ุงู†ูŠ ู‚ู„ุช
19:27
I'm interested in the phenomenon that's taking place in here.
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ุฃู†ุง ู…ู‡ุชู… ุจุงู„ุธุงู‡ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุฑุงู‡ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุตูˆุฑู‡
19:32
And really what we're talking about is constructing reality.
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ูˆ ู…ุง ู†ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู‡ูˆ ุชุดูŠูŠุฏ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน
19:36
And I'm a character that's extremely interested
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ูˆ ุฃู†ุง ุดุฎุตูŠู‡ ู…ู‡ุชู…ู‡ ุฅู„ูŠ ุญุฏ ุจุนูŠุฏ
19:38
in understanding the nature of that constructed reality
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ููŠ ูู‡ู… ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน
19:41
because there's no such thing as nature any more. Nature is gone.
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ู„ุงู†ู‡ ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุดูŠุก ุฃุณู…ุนู‡ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ุจุนุฏ ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุŒ ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ุฐู‡ุจุช ุจู„ุง ุนูˆุฏู‡
19:45
Nature in the 19th-century sense, alright?
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ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ุจู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุงู„ู‚ุฑู† ุงู„ุชุงุณุน ุนุดุฑ ุŒ ุญุณู†ุง
19:47
Nature is only a cultural edifice today, right?
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ุงู„ุทุจูŠุนู‡ ู‡ูŠ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ูŠุญุฏุฏู‡ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุงูŠุฃู… ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุŸ
19:50
We construct it and we construct those ideas.
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ู†ุญู† ู†ูƒูˆู†ู‡ุง ูˆ ู†ุญู† ู…ู† ู†ูƒูˆู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃููƒุงุฑ
19:53
And then of course, this one, our governor at the moment.
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ูˆ ู…ู† ุซู… ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุญูƒู…ู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ุงู„ุฑุงู‡ู†
19:56
And we spent some time with Conan, believe it or not,
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ูˆ ุตุฏู‚ ุฃูˆ ู„ุง ุชุตุฏู‚ ูู‚ุฏ ู‚ุถูŠู†ุง ุจุนุฏ ุงู„ูˆู‚ุช ู…ุน ูƒูˆู†ุงู†
20:01
and then that led us to, kind of, the very differences of our worlds
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ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ูŠู‚ูˆุฏู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุฎุชู„ุงูุงุช ููŠ ุนุงู„ู…ู†ุง
20:05
from a legal and an artistic, architectural.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌุงู†ุจ ุงู„ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ูŠ ุŒ ุงู„ูู†ูŠ ูˆุงู„ู…ุนู…ุงุฑูŠ
20:07
And it forced us to talk about notions of how we work,
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ู…ู…ุง ูŠุฌุจุฑู†ุง ุนู„ูŠ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุนู† ู…ูู‡ูˆู…ู†ุง ุนู† ุทุฑูŠู‚ู‡ ุนู…ู„ู†ุง
20:11
and the dynamics of that, and what other sources of the work is.
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ูˆ ุญุฑูƒูŠุฉ ุนู…ู„ู†ุง ูˆ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฑุฏ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู„ู„ุนู…ู„
20:14
And it led us to the project, the courthouse,
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ูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ู‡ุฑ ุฃูˆุฏุช ุจู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูˆุน ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูƒู…
20:17
which is absolutely a part of a negotiation
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูƒุงู† ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุชูุงูˆุถ ุจุงู„ุชุฃูƒูŠุฏ
20:20
between tradition and pieces of the traditional courthouse.
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ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏ ูˆุงุฌุฒุงุก ู…ู† ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูƒู… ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ
20:23
You'll find a stair that's the same length as the Supreme Court.
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ุณุชุฌุฏ ุฏุฑุฌุง ู…ุดุงุจู‡ุง ููŠ ุทูˆู„ู‡ ู„ู„ู…ุญูƒู…ุฉ ุงู„ุนู„ูŠุง
20:25
Here's a piano nobile, which is a device used in the Renaissance.
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ู‡ุฐุง ุจูŠุงู†ูˆ ู†ุจูŠู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุณุชุฎุฏู… ููŠ ุนุตุฑ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุถุฉ
20:28
The courts were made of that. The skin is this series of layers
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ุงู„ู…ุญูƒู…ุฉ ุตู†ุนุช ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุง . ุงู„ุฌู„ุฏ ู‡ูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุทุจู‚ุงุช
20:32
that reflect even rusticated stonework,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนูƒุณ ุญุชูŠ ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุงู„ุญุฌุงุฑุฉ ุฐุงุช ุงู„ุทุงุจุน ุงู„ุฑูŠููŠ
20:35
but which were embedded with fragments of the Constitution,
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ูˆ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ุง ุถู…ู†ุช ุจูŠู† ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุณุชูˆุฑ
20:39
which were part of the little process,
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ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุฌู‡ูŠุฒ ุงู„ูŠ ุญุฏ ู…ุง
20:41
all set on a plinth that defined it from the community.
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ูƒู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ูˆุถุน ููŠ ู‚ุงุนุฏู‡ ู„ุชู…ูŠุฒู‡ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน
20:43
Thank you so much.
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ุดูƒุฑุง ุฌุฒูŠู„ุง
20:45
(Applause)
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(ุชุตููŠู‚)
ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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