Polyglot Explains How To Learn A Language Fast

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English Like A Native


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Learning another language is impressive,ย  but imagine learning 20 languages.ย ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ธ์ƒ์  ์ด์ง€๋งŒ 20๊ฐœ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
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Well, this incredible feat has been achievedย  by today's guest, Steve Kaufmann from YouTubeย ย 
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์ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์œ„์—…์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์˜ Steve Kaufmann
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channel, Steve Kaufmann, lingosteve. He's alsoย  the CEO of lingQ, which I will link down below,ย ย 
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, Steve Kaufmann, lingosteve์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋‹ฌ์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋งํฌํ•  lingQ์˜ CEO์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. lingQ๋Š”
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which is a fantastic learning resourceย  for anyone learning another language.ย 
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ํ•™์Šต ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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So, what can we learn from such anย  incredible linguistic brain? Let's find out.ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์–ธ์–ด ๋‘๋‡Œ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š” ? ์•Œ์•„ ๋ณด์ž.
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Hello, Steve, it's lovely to meet you, I'dย  like you to just spend a few moments tellingย ย 
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, Steve, ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”. ์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
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my audience a little bit about who you are,ย  and what you do when it comes to languages.
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๋‚ด ์ฒญ์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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I enjoy learning languages, I've learnedย  languages, you know, throughout my lifeย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ํ‰์ƒ ๋™์•ˆ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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for various reasons. And in particular, inย  the last 15 or 16 years, I've been very muchย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๋‚œ 15๋…„ ๋˜๋Š” 16๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €๋Š”
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involved with learning languages online, Iย  have a YouTube channel called lingosteve,ย ย 
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๋งŽ์ด ๊ด€์—ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” lingosteve๋ผ๋Š” YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
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together with my son, I co-founded a platformย  for learning languages called link lingq.com.ย ย 
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๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ link lingq๋ผ๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์„ ๊ณต๋™ ์„ค๋ฆฝํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. com.
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I'm currently learning Arabic andย  Persian. And, yeah, I like languages.
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์ €๋Š” ํ˜„์žฌ ์•„๋ž์–ด์™€ ํŽ˜๋ฅด์‹œ์•„์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Okay, so how many languages do you actually know?
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์ž, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
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To some extent, I would say 20! I can easily communicate, like right away nowย ย 
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์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๋Š” 20์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ์ง€๊ธˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
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10, or 12, and other 8 languages or so thatย  I did learn well enough to use when I was inย ย 
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10๊ฐœ, 12๊ฐœ, ๊ธฐํƒ€ 8๊ฐœ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ์ž˜ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋‚˜์š”,
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the country or that I'm in the processย  of learning? And it would, you know,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์ค‘์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•Œ
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I'd need a little bit of work to get themย  up to a decent level, let's put it that way.
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๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ ์ ˆํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๋ฉด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ž‘์—…์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
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You said you had a method. So, tell me my studentsย  are desperate to know, What is your secret?
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๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋น„๊ฒฐ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:46
I believe that the brain gradually gets usedย  to a language, you have to be exposed to aย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์ ์ฐจ ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
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certain amount of the language for the brainย  to start to get used to it. And so, I spendย ย 
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๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ผ์ •๋Ÿ‰์˜ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋…ธ์ถœ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
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most of my time in sort of listening and readingย  and then when I have the opportunity I speak,ย ย 
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ์™€ ์ฝ๊ธฐ์— ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋งํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
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but my focus is on comprehension, accumulatingย  vocabulary through a lot of listening andย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ดˆ์ ์€ ์ดํ•ด๋ ฅ์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ์™€ ์ฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์ถ•์ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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reading. That's the sort of approach that weย  have, you know, made, I think, more efficientย ย 
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. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” lingQ์—์„œ ๋” ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
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in lingQ. But but the idea is that you have toย  give the brain a chance to acquire the language.
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋Š” ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์Šต๋“ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Just in the same way, I guess that childrenย  when they're learning to speak, do they areย ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ
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absorbing the language all around them,ย  aren't they before they even start toย ย 
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์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ํก์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ์ „์—
02:26
really try to communicate back with us.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์€์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:28
Right! And we have a big advantageย  over children. And we already haveย ย 
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ! ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํฐ ์ด์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€
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a large vocabulary in our own language, whateverย  language that may be. So, we have concepts,ย ย 
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๊ฐ„์— ์ด๋ฏธ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
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words in our own language that the children aren'tย  even aware of in their own language. So, we doย ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ๋Š” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…, ์ฆ‰ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
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have a head start over the kids, although theyย  are more natural and less inhibited. Let's say.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์–ต์ œ๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ์œ ๋ฆฌํ•œ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ ๋ง์„ํ•˜์ž.
02:47
I think that's one of the biggest things Iย  try and teach my students in particular is toย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŠนํžˆ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
02:52
try not to let your fear of mistakes holdย  you back. I think it's important to try andย ย 
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์‹ค์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:57
just, just make mistakes and putย  yourself out there and try to useย ย 
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. ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‘๊ณ  ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:01
the language as much as possible. I fully agree with that. Yeah.
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
03:03
You are a native English speaker, right?ย  So, what motivated you? What was the firstย ย 
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์˜์–ด ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด์‹œ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ์˜€์–ด? ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
03:11
language you learnt? What motivatedย  you to learn so many languages.
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๋ฐฐ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๋™๊ธฐ
03:15
I was born in Sweden. So, for the first five yearsย  of my life, I spoke Swedish. Now, I've been inย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์Šค์›จ๋ด์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ 5๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ์€ ์Šค์›จ๋ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค์— ์˜จ ์ง€
03:19
Canada for 71 years. So, I mean, English is myย  natural language. It's my native language. It'sย ย 
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71๋…„์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ €์˜ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:25
the one that I speak the best, most naturally. But I think the fact that I was exposed toย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
03:29
another language when I was a small child probablyย  helped, you know, as a 1617 year old in Montreal,ย ย 
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋…ธ์ถœ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋ชฌํŠธ๋ฆฌ์˜ฌ์—์„œ 1617๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๋˜
03:36
I got very interested in French because of aย  professor that we had, and I ended up going toย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๊ต์ˆ˜๋‹˜ ๋•๋ถ„์— ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด์— ๋งค์šฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๊ฐ€๋Š”
03:40
France spent three years there did my universityย  education in France. And then after that,ย ย 
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ 3๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๊ณ  ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ ๋Œ€ํ•™ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ํ›„
03:46
I worked for the Canadian government, and theyย  were looking to train people in Mandarin Chinese.ย 
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์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค ์ •๋ถ€์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค ์ •๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ถ๊ฒฝ์–ด๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ต์œกํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
So, I was selected, and I was sent to Hong Kongย  to learn Mandarin Chinese. And then thereafter, Iย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์„ ๋ฐœ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ํ™์ฝฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ค‘๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ํ›„ ์ €๋Š”
03:54
learned I lived in Japan, my family, my wife, andย  kids, we lived in Japan. And so, once you realizeย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ณธ์— ์‚ด์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์•„๋‚ด, ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ณธ์— ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
03:59
that, in fact, is not that difficult to learnย  languages, then it's something I like to do. Andย ย 
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ ต์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
04:03
I've continued doing. And particularly in the lastย  15, 16 years, since the age of 60, I decided toย ย 
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๊ณ„์† ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๋‚œ 15๋…„, 16๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ, 60์„ธ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
04:09
learn Russian and after Russian then Czech and youย  know, I learned Ukrainian and Korean and Greek andย ย 
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๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์–ด์— ์ด์–ด ์ฒด์ฝ”์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ณ  ์šฐํฌ๋ผ์ด๋‚˜์–ด, ํ•œ๊ตญ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ณ 
04:16
so I put more effort into it the last 15, 16 yearsย  than I than I did in the previous sort of periodย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๋‚œ 15, 16๋…„์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ผํ•˜๋˜ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์ด์ „ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๋ช‡ ๋…„์€
04:22
of my life where I was mostly working didn'tย  have so much time to spend on language learning.
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์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ํ• ์• ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ฐ„
04:27
How do you navigate switchingย  between the languages when youย ย 
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์ „ํ™˜์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
04:32
if you ever in a situation whereย  you do have to switch? How do youย ย 
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? ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
04:35
navigate that? And do you have any tips orย  tricks for switching into a different language?
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ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ํŒ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”๋ น์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
04:40
I mean, you just have to get going in the languageย  and the brain will take over. Like I trust myย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‘๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด
04:44
brain and and I'll make mistakes you know theย  language is.. I'm obviously.. my Spanish is aย ย 
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๋‘๋‡Œ๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋Š” .. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:49
lot stronger than my Portuguese so when I speakย  Spanish, I will or at least Portuguese I'll mixย ย 
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04:54
in Spanish. If I'm with Portuguese peopleย  more or Brazilian people more than there'llย ย 
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์งˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋”
04:58
be less of a mixture. I never worry aboutย  that the main objective is communicating.ย ย 
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์ ๊ฒŒ ์„ž์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ์š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
Communication. And, and of course, myย  goal is comprehension. So as long as Iย ย 
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์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ์ดํ•ด๋ ฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
05:09
have that level of comprehension, and I canย  understand what the person is saying, I don'tย ย 
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๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์ดํ•ด๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ, ๋‚˜๋Š”
05:14
really worry too much about how you know elegantlyย  I express myself how many mistakes I make,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์šฐ์•„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์•„๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:19
it doesn't really bother me. I don't consciouslyย  switch. It's not something that I deliberately do.
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. ์˜์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:25
Ok. I know when my background previously wasย  in acting, and I would, I would learn differentย ย 
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ์ด์ „์— ๋‚ด ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์ด ์–ธ์ œ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:32
accents. And I had a trick, which was to or justย  have a phrase that belonged to each accent thatย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ฐ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์— ์†ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:39
would give me the target sounds for that accentย  that I would say that phrase, and that wouldย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋Œ€์ƒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ 
05:43
help me to sit into it. But it's not I guess it'sย  not the same when you have different languages.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•‰๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋•Œ ๋™์ผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:47
No, no, no, no, I think that's true.ย  Sometimes, if you're having trouble switching,ย ย 
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„. ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
05:52
you got to find a word or a phrase, in that newย  language, I gotta find something that I can sayย ย 
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์ƒˆ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋‹จ์–ด๋‚˜ ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”
05:57
in Russian now because I've been speakingย  Chinese. And so, I'll say that and thenย ย 
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์ค‘๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ 
06:01
stumble a bit and slowly I'll slide into theย  Russian. So yeah, I think that's a good strategy.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋”๋“ฌ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์–ด๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์ „๋žต์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:05
You mentioned age, but you didn't say how old youย  are. Do you mind me asking how old you are now?
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๋‚˜์ด๋Š” ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์ด๋Š” ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
06:10
Yeah. I'm 76.
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์‘. ์ €๋Š” 76์„ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
Wow. 76! And what age were you whenย  you picked up your last language?
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์™€์šฐ. 76! ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š” ?
06:17
Well, you know, right now I'm working on Iย  say Persian and Arabic, the Arabic is tougher,ย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ €๋Š” ํŽ˜๋ฅด์‹œ์•„์–ด์™€ ์•„๋ž์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์•„๋ž์–ด๋Š” ๋” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
because I'm doing a bit of Egyptian and a bitย  of Levantine and a bit of Standard Arabic. Andย ย 
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์ด์ง‘ํŠธ์–ด์™€ ๋ ˆ๋ฐ˜ํŠธ์–ด, ํ‘œ์ค€ ์•„๋ž์–ด๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
06:28
it's hard. The Arabic is difficult.ย  Persian. Those are the two languagesย ย 
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์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ž์–ด๋Š” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŽ˜๋ฅด์‹œ์•„ ์ธ.
06:32
that I'm working on right now. With theย  Persian it's not that bad, actually.ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์–ธ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํŽ˜๋ฅด์‹œ์•ˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:36
I understand a lot of podcasts, newscasts Iย  talk if I there's a lot of Iranian immigrantsย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ, ๋‰ด์Šค์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐด์ฟ ๋ฒ„์— ์ด๋ž€ ์ด๋ฏผ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์œผ๋ฉด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
06:40
here in Vancouver, and I can chat with them.ย  And they're very encouraging when I do that.
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๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณ ๋ฌด์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด
06:45
What do you think is the biggest obstacle forย  learning any language, just a blanket obstacle?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์žฅ์• ๋ฌผ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š” ?
06:51
The important thing is to put in the time, putย  in the time with the language however you do it,ย ย 
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:56
you can watch TV programs, you can read, you canย  talk to people, just spend time with the languageย 
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07:01
Don't worry about things you don'tย  understand, there's always going to beย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:04
things you don't understand. And some peopleย  will pronounce better, and some people willย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
07:08
pronounce less well. And it reallyย  doesn't matter. I think the main thing isย ย 
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๋œ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
07:12
to just stay with it and keepย  going you will continue to improve.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
Have you approached every language in the same wayย ย 
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๋ชจ๋“  ์–ธ์–ด์— ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋˜๋Š”
07:19
or like your method, your your resource thatย  you'd like to use? Has it all been a very similarย ย 
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
07:25
strategy that you've used? Or have, you had toย  adjust your strategy, depending on the language?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ „๋žต์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ „๋žต์„ ์กฐ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
07:29
The strategy has been the same, you have to do aย  lot of reading, reading and listening, reading andย ย 
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์ „๋žต์€ ๋™์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฝ๊ธฐ, ์ฝ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ, ์ฝ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ
07:34
listening. That's what I did. Long before I hadย  ever heard of Stephen Krashen, who, of course, youย ย 
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๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์•ผ.
07:38
know, is the great guru of input-based learning.ย  But it was obvious to me that that's what I hadย ย 
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์ž…๋ ฅ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ํ•™์Šต์˜ ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์ธ Stephen Krashen์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ „์— ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:44
to do. And I let the speaking kind of look at,ย  you know, look after itself. It's not somethingย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋„๋ก ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
07:48
I worry about. It'll develop gradually through,ย  you have to speak a lot to speak well, you can't,ย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ง์„ ์ž˜ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋ง์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:54
you know, I like some I remember speakingย  to a group of immigrants here in Vancouver,ย ย 
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐด์ฟ ๋ฒ„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ถœ์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฏผ์ž ๊ทธ๋ฃน๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:57
who were from China. And they wantedย  to learn enough English so thatย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
08:01
they could speak to their kidsโ€™ teacher, or ifย  ever a policeman stopped them on the highway,ย ย 
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์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์ด ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์„ธ์› ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„
08:06
you can't just, you know, get enough English soย  that in a particular situation, once a month,ย ย 
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ํŠน์ • ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ ์›”,
08:11
you can use it, it's not going to happen. If they really want to get good in English, theyย ย 
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์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
08:15
have to watch English television that they haveย  to get in, you know, spend a lot of time with theย ย 
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์˜์–ด ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  , ์–ธ์–ด์™€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:20
language. So, the only thing that I did a littleย  differently was when I was learning Mandarinย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ๊ฒฝ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:25
Chinese. In order to learn the characters, Iย  used spaced repetition system for the firstย ย 
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. ๋ฌธ์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ฒ˜์Œ 1000์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๊ฒฉ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:30
1000 characters. That was a system that I designedย  by myself. But it was based on the principle thatย ย 
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. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ,
08:36
I had to keep on relearning, relearning, thoseย  that I thought I learned, I put them aside, thenย ย 
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ œ์ณ๋‘๊ณ ,
08:41
I worked with the others and stuff. It was a formย  of spaced repetition, I won't go into details.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์›์น™์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ„๊ฒฉ์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜•์‹์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
And the other thing that's changed, of course,ย  is lingQ because all of those activities are nowย ย 
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ํ™œ๋™์ด ์ด์ œ ๋” ํšจ์œจ์ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— lingQ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:48
more efficient. Theyโ€™re taking advantage of youย  know, modern technology, mp3, online dictionaries,ย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ˜„๋Œ€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ , mp3, ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ „,
08:53
the ability to bring in content from YouTube,ย  from Netflix, you know, everything thatย ย 
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YouTube, Netflix ๋“ฑ
08:58
the internet makes available to us now forย  language learning. So that has changed.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:04
You said that you're learningย  two languages at the moment.ย ย 
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ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:07
In general, if someone has aspirationsย  to learn many languages, do you recommendย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์—ด๋ง์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:13
learning more than one language at a time? Orย  do you think that's.. No. ..quite tricky to do?
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ๋‘ ๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ.. ์•„๋‹ˆ. ..์•„์ฃผ ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
09:17
Not a good thing to do. I don't know why I didย  it. I initially I also had Turkish in there,ย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ํ„ฐํ‚ค์–ด๋„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:21
too. I said, I don't know much about theย  Middle East. I'm going to try to learn Persian,ย ย 
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. ์ €๋Š” ์ค‘๋™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํŽ˜๋ฅด์‹œ์•„์–ด,
09:26
Arabic and Turkish. So, I was sort of threeย  months on one. Three months on the other.ย ย 
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์•„๋ž์–ด, ํ„ฐํ‚ค์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” 1๋…„์— 3๊ฐœ์›” ์ •๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— 3๊ฐœ์›”.
09:31
I dropped Turkish because because it's writtenย  in the Latin alphabet, essentially, it's goingย ย 
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ํ„ฐํ‚ค์–ด๋Š” ๋ผํ‹ด ์•ŒํŒŒ๋ฒณ์œผ๋กœ ์ž‘์„ฑ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋”
09:35
to be easier. On the other side. Sometimesย  people get tired of learning one languageย ย 
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์‰ฌ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ญ์ œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์—. ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง€์ณ
09:39
they feel they aren't getting anywhere. Youย  can't keep on doing the same thing all the time.ย ย 
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์•„๋ฌด๋ฐ๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
The brain likes variety. So, to thatย  extent, occasionally moving off intoย ย 
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๋‡Œ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘์„ฑ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ ์ •๋„๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋”
09:49
another language can be a good thing,ย  but it slows you it slows you down.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์†๋„๊ฐ€ ๋Š๋ ค์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „์— ๋ฐฐ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ
09:53
Do you do anything to maintain theย  languages that you've previouslyย ย 
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์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”
09:56
learned? So, you're now working on newย  languages, but do you continue to listenย ย 
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? ์ด์ œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ
10:00
to different languages and just keep aย  hand in to make sure you don't go rusty?
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋…น์Šฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ์†์„ ์žก๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ 
10:04
I mean, I would love to, but there's just notย  enough time in the day. You know, I like toย ย 
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์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š”
10:08
play golf with my wife, I have other activitiesย  and have an hour and a half, two hours a day,ย ย 
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์•„๋‚ด์™€ ๊ณจํ”„ ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ™œ๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ˜, ๋‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„,
10:13
maybe at most to spend on language. If I were toย  spend that time on reviewing languages that I'mย ย 
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๊ธฐ๊ปํ•ด์•ผ ์–ธ์–ด์— ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:18
you know, would like to improve in orย  whatever, maintain, I just don't have the time.ย 
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, ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
That's one interesting thing. When youย  relearn something that you've forgotten,ย ย 
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฉด
10:25
you end up better. And so, everything that Iย  put into it is all there it's stored. I can'tย ย 
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๋” ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €์žฅ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:30
bring it up right away, but I can go backย  to it, quickly bring it up to where it was,ย ย 
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ ์›๋ž˜ ์œ„์น˜๋กœ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์˜จ
10:34
and just move on. So, I don't worryย  about maintaining my languages, no.
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๋‹ค์Œ ๊ณ„์† ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ธ์–ด ์œ ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
You mentioned that you have aย  YouTube channel as well as LingQ.ย 
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YouTube ์ฑ„๋„๊ณผ LingQ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:42
Right. Yeah. What do you do on your YouTube channel? So,ย ย 
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ. ์‘. YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ,
10:45
if my guys want to come over and see whatย  you do over there, what do you offer there?
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๋‚ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด ์™€์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
10:48
What I try to do is encourage people. You know,ย  relax, you can learn. Put in the time. Enjoy it.ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ’€๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ž…๋ ฅํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์ฆ๊ธฐ์„ธ์š”.
10:56
That's the message. I mean, I and I cover it inย  different ways, different aspects of how we canย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ €์™€ ์ €๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด ํ•™์Šต์„ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹, ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃน๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:02
enjoy our language learning. Because enjoymentย  is the key. If you enjoy it, you're gonna stayย ย 
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. ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธด๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
11:06
with it. If you stay with it, you'll improve. It'sย  that simple. I think a lot of language teachers,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋จธ๋ฌผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊พธ์ค€ํžˆ ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์ข‹์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ต์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด
11:11
sometimes they overcomplicate things, there'sย  too much of an emphasis on trying to get peopleย ย 
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ผ์„ ์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
11:15
to master stuff, master the grammar. First ofย  all, you can't master anything, but you're notย ย 
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์„ ํ†ต๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘ก๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ์„ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งˆ์Šคํ„ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋…ธ์ถœ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
11:20
going to get very good at incorporating, you know,ย  different aspects of grammar or even vocabulary,ย ย 
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์ด๋‚˜ ์–ดํœ˜์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ํ†ตํ•ฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:24
if you haven't been exposing yourself enoughย  to the to the language. And that's the message.ย 
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. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
Most of my videos are in English. I try to speakย  clearly. And I think many people who are learningย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
11:36
English, listen to my videos. And of course, theย  script, the transcript is available on LingQ,ย ย 
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์ œ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋Œ€๋ณธ, ๋Œ€๋ณธ์€ LingQ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ LingQ
11:40
so they can actually study those as lessons inย  LingQ. They listened to improve their English.ย ย 
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์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์—…์œผ๋กœ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:47
Many say they find me easierย  to understand that many,ย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ‰๊ท ์ ์ธ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
11:50
you know, average native speakers that theyย  run into, but I also speak another language.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋„ ๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:54
Fantastic. Fantastic. So, Steve, if it'sย  alright with you, I'd like to do a very short,ย ย 
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„์ฃผ ์งง๊ณ 
11:59
quick fire round of questions if that'sย  okay. Yeah, please. Yeah. Okay. So.
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๋น ๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด . ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ œ๋ฐœ. ์‘. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ.
12:06
Favorite language to learn?
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด?
12:07
There is no favorite language,ย  the one I'm on is my favorite.
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์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:10
Easiest language to learn?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋Š”?
12:11
The one that has the most common vocabularyย  with a language you already know.
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์ด๋ฏธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์–ดํœ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:16
Hardest?ย 
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์šด๊ฐ€์š”?
12:17
Well, I would say you know, rightย  now, Arabic but Chinese. I mean,ย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ์€ ์•„๋ž์–ด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ค‘๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ค ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด ๋ง์€
12:20
wherever there is no common vocabulary andย  a different script. It's more difficult.
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๊ณตํ†ต๋œ ์–ดํœ˜์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฝํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋””๋“  ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:25
Is a person ever too old to learn a new language?
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„์ง
12:28
I haven't reached that ageย  yet. So, I don't think so.
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๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
Fantastic. Grammar rules, love them or hate them?
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ทœ์น™, ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ์›Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
12:34
Grammar rules are fun. If you haveย  enough experience with the language,ย ย 
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ทœ์น™์€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
12:38
once you're familiar with the language,ย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด
12:39
it's fun to read grammar rules. And I would likeย  to see more grammar texts in the target language.
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ทœ์น™์„ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชฉํ‘œ ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ํ…์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•™์Šต์„ ๋งˆ์นœ
12:45
Will you be learning any more languages afterย  you finish learning the ones, you're on now?
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ํ›„์— ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”? ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
12:50
Likely, maybe Indonesia, and maybe Swahili? Iย  don't know. Whatever, it's fun, I enjoy it. Andย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ ์ธ๋„๋„ค์‹œ์•„๋‚˜ ์Šค์™€ํž๋ฆฌ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹๊นŒ์š”? ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ฆ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
12:57
every time you learn a language, you learnย  about the people, the culture, the history.ย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๋ฌธํ™”, ์—ญ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:00
So, it's more than justย  the language. It's a whole,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์–ธ์–ด ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:04
you know, discovering differentย  parts of the world sort of thing.
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์„ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ „์ฒด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
Another question thatโ€™s just popped into my head,ย  and you've probably be one of the best peopleย ย 
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๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ ์•„๋งˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
13:12
to answer the question is I always haveย  this debate with people about whether or notย ย 
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๊ทธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
13:17
some people who advertise you canย  be fluent in a language in 30 days,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ด‘๊ณ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด 30์ผ ์•ˆ์— ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์—ฌ๋ถ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด ๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
13:20
or you can be fluent in just twoย  weeks. Do you think that's true?ย 
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๋˜๋Š” ๋‹จ 2์ฃผ ๋งŒ์— ์œ ์ฐฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
13:23
Not at all. Is it possible?
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๋ณ„๋ง์”€์„์š”. ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
13:25
Not possible. Well, I shouldn't sayย ย 
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๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:27
not possible. I don't. It's not possible forย  me. Very hard. It's not possible for me. And Iย ย 
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”. ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ. ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
13:32
don't think there are many people who can learn soย  quickly. One of the people I enjoy reading is thisย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ฒจ ์ฝ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์€
13:38
German neuro scientist, I guess he says the brainย  will always learn the brain is always dealing withย ย 
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๋…์ผ์˜ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ๊ณผํ•™์ž์ธ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ
13:46
different experiences forming patterns. Andย  so, it learns, but the brain learns slowly,ย ย 
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ํŒจํ„ด์„ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‡Œ๋Š” ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฉฐ
13:51
the brain learns slowly and I think everyoneย  learning a language should be patient. Even if theย ย 
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๋‡Œ๋Š” ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ธ๋‚ดํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:56
vocabulary is very similar, say French and Spanishย  or Spanish and Portuguese, it's still going toย ย 
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์–ด์™€ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด์™€ ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ์–ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์–ดํœ˜๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ
14:01
take a long time to get used to it to develop newย  habits to feel comfortable. No, no, one month,ย ย 
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ,
14:09
three months, no, it takes time and you'reย  never perfect. So, you can always get better.
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์„ธ ๋‹ฌ, ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
Brilliant. So, the takeaway message forย  people learning English because that'sย ย 
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๋ฉ‹์ง„. ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ…Œ์ดํฌ์•„์›ƒ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
14:19
my audience's goal and mission. I know it'sย  not a language you learn but you're you know,ย ย 
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๋‚ด ์ฒญ์ค‘์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ด์ž ์‚ฌ๋ช…์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:24
very well versed in taking on languages. Theย  takeaway message is to not worry about grammarย ย 
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์–ธ์–ด ์Šต๋“์— ๋งค์šฐ ์ •ํ†ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์ ์€ ๋‚˜์ค‘๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:31
until later down the line. Lots of listening lotsย  of reading immersion and get speaking and makeย ย 
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. ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์ด ์ฝ๊ณ  ๋ชฐ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
14:37
mistakes and don't worry did I miss anything else? No, no, that's it. Develop your.. You have toย ย 
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜..๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•˜์„ธ์š” ๋‹น์‹ ์€
14:42
develop habits and you will. And there's allย  these different tenses in English but and you'llย ย 
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์Šต๊ด€์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜์–ด์—๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‹œ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
14:46
get comfortable with certain tenses you mean,ย  and you'll hear other people using them andย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์‹œ์ œ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
it's just a gradual process of acclimatizingย  yourself and getting used to a language andย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ ์‘์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ์ ์ง„์ ์ธ ๊ณผ์ •์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณผ๋„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ
14:56
don't overanalyze and try to enjoy it. Theย  more you enjoy it, the better you'll do.
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๋ถ„์„ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ฆ๊ธธ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ์ž˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:59
That's a really great message. Well, Steve,ย ย 
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, Steve,
15:01
it's been an absolute pleasure. I wish youย  all the best of luck with the new language.
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์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒˆ ์–ธ์–ด์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–‰์šด์„ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:05
Thank you! And Same to you. Brilliant. Okay, then. Thank you!ย 
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค! ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฉ‹์ง„. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
15:09
Take care. Bye bye. Bye bye.
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์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด์„ธ์š”. ์•ˆ๋…•. ์•ˆ๋…•.
15:10
Did you enjoy that? I did. If you enjoy watching theseย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‚˜๋Š”ํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด
15:13
interviews and have another person in mind thatย  you would like me to interview them, pleaseย ย 
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:18
do put their name down in the comments below andย  tell me what you'd like me to talk to them about.ย 
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์•„๋ž˜ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์— ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
15:23
I want to say a huge thank you to Steve, pleaseย  do go and check out his YouTube Channel and hisย ย 
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋งํฌํ•  ๊ทธ์˜ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„๊ณผ
15:29
website the LingQ, which I will link down below. And if you're new here, don't forget to subscribeย ย 
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LingQ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ณณ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ์˜ค์…จ๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:35
before you leave so you don'tย  miss out on any future lessons.ย 
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ํ–ฅํ›„ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋†“์น˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๊ตฌ๋…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
15:38
Until next time, take care. Bye
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๋‹ค์Œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ชธ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์•ˆ๋…•
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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