Simon Sinek: How to discover your "why" in difficult times | TED

Transcriber:

翻译人员: Yanying Wu 校对人员: Bruce Wang

Chris Anderson: Simon, I'll start us off by saying, I mean, here we are, look,

主持人：西蒙 首先我得说

after a year of the pandemic,

疫情已经持续一年了

probably one of the most extraordinary experiences any of us have had.

这一年可能对任何人来说都是不寻常的

你认为会有什么 意想不到的疫情心理遗留问题

What do you think the unexpected psychological carryovers might be?

I mean, do you think we've kind of --

我是指 你有没有觉得人们变得有些——

Part of me thinks that people have got more fragile,

我多少觉得人们变得更脆弱了

这种脆弱像似是后天学得的怯懦

that it's almost like there's a sort of learned timidity.

Have you seen any evidence of that or how would you characterize it?

你注意到这些现象吗？

或者说如何定义这种心理？

Simon Sinek: I think we've definitely all become much more aware

我认为人们肯定更加关注心理健康了

of mental health.

And that it's a real thing

心理问题是真实存在的

and that mental health affects strong and healthy people.

即使是强壮的健康人也会有心理问题

疫情期间 大家都经受了创伤

We all suffered trauma during COVID.

Some of us dealt with it earlier, some of us dealt with it later,

有的人能提早走出创伤 有的人需要多一些时间

some of us are still dealing with it, but nobody escapes it.

有的人正处在创伤中 但没人能幸免

When COVID first started, you know,

疫情爆发时

many of us had to pivot our organizations,

许多人不得不重新调整机构的核心

had to pivot our businesses very quickly.

不得不快速让工作转型

And so I, like many others, we went into mission mode.

我和许多人一样 进入了战斗状态

And I called a friend of mine who is active-duty military.

我给一位朋友打电话 他是一位现役军人

And I asked him a very simple question,

我问了他一个非常简单的问题

how do I compartmentalize my emotions so that I can stay focused on the mission?

我如何能不感情用事 从而专注于应对工作呢？

And he gave me a very stern warning.

他给了我一个严肃的警告

He said, you can't.

他说 你做不到的

He said, we can compartmentalize our emotions for only a short period of time,

他说 我们只能在短时间内控制情绪

but no one, no one escapes the trauma of combat.

但没有人 没有人能够逃避战斗带来的创伤

And he said, you may not even experience the trauma while you're in it,

他说 当你在经历创伤时 你很可能体会不到

你最初回家时 可能体会不到

you may not experience it when you first come home,

你可能几个月之后才会有感觉

you may experience it months later.

他说 我当时回家已经四五个月了 才有感觉

He says, I experience it four or five months after I get home.

于是 我马上挂掉电话

So immediately I hung up the phone

给我的所有人生赢家型朋友打电话

and called all my A-type personality friends

and said, OK, we think we're good,

我说 好吧 我们都认为自己没问题

but we're going to get hit by this at some point.

但是我们迟早会在某个时刻被疫情击倒

And we made a deal that when we started to feel off our game,

我们约定好了 当我们觉得自己不在状态时

we would call each other.

要给彼此打电话

Safe space.

给彼此营造一个安全的环境

And we made another deal that there would be no crying alone.

我们还约定好了 不要独自哭泣

如果你想哭 就拿起电话打给别人

That if you had to cry, you picked up the phone and you called somebody.

新冠疫情爆发的四五个月后

Well, about four or five months into COVID,

我开始觉得自己不在状态 我不清楚究竟是怎么回事

I started to feel off my game and I didn't know what was going on.

And so I called that same friend in the military

于是我打给那个军队朋友

and I asked no leading questions.

我没有问任何引导性的问题

I simply asked him, tell me what your symptoms are when you suffer the trauma

我只是简单地问他 请告诉我 当你战后回家

经受战后创伤时 你的症状是什么

when you come home from combat.

And he said, well, number one, he falls out of his sleep pattern.

他说 第一 他的睡眠规律被破坏了

He said he starts going to bed late for no reason

他说他开始无缘无故地晚睡

and doesn't want to get up in the morning.

而且早上不想起床

我当时想 我也是

And I thought to myself, yep.

He says he has some unproductive days and he comes up with an excuse like,

他说他有过一些效率低下的日子 他给自己找了个借口

"It's OK, you know, you deserve a rest. It's fine."

“没事的 你知道 你需要休息一下 没问题的”

But then he has another and another and another.

可是 这样的借口 他说了一次又一次又一次

And I thought to myself, yep.

我当时想 我也是

And he said he becomes very antisocial where he doesn't want to ask for help

他说他变得非常不想社交 他不想寻求帮助

而且绝对不想和任何人说话

and he definitely doesn't want to talk to anybody.

我当时想 我也是

And I thought to myself, yep.

我意识到 我所经历的是创伤

And I realized what I was going through was trauma.

And I was afraid to use the D-word, depression,

我害怕使用“抑郁症”这个词

for fear that that was some sort of diagnosis.

担心这要有医生诊断才行

我想很多人都害怕这个词

I think a lot of people are afraid of that word,

but that's exactly what I was going through.

但这恰恰是我所经历的

I was going through lowercase “D” depression.

我当时正处于抑郁状态

And I followed the rule that we set with our friends

我遵循了和朋友们制定的规则

and I called people.

我开始给别人打电话

Because one of the things I asked my friend is like,

因为我问了军队朋友一个问题

你怎么去克服它

how do you overcome it?

他说 你得强迫自己回到正常的睡眠习惯

He said, you have to force yourself back into a sleep pattern

强迫自己给朋友打电话 主动寻求帮助

and force yourself to call friends and ask for help.

所以我认为 有件事情

And so I think one of the things,

那就是 新冠疫情之后

I think that comes out of COVID,

is we recognized just the importance of human connection.

我们认识到了人与人之间的连接很重要

You know, in this fast-paced digital world,

你知道 在这个快节奏的数字世界里

we kidded ourselves to think that we had connections

我们骗过自己 以为我们彼此连接

just because we were connected.

仅仅是因为我们时刻联网

But it was amazing to see when COVID started,

当新冠疫情开始后 令人惊讶的是

regardless of someone's age or a technological competency,

无论年龄或技术能力的差别

we all picked up the phone.

我们都拿起了电话

Like, young people were talking to each other.

甚至年轻人也开始彼此交谈

And I think that intense craving for a human voice and human touch,

我觉得 这种对人类声音和人类接触的强烈渴望

I think we were reminded just how fragile we are as human beings.

提醒了我们 我们只是脆弱的人类

CA: That phrase you've mentioned, "no crying alone," that's powerful.

主持人：你提到的那句话 不要独自哭泣 这很有力量

I mean, forgive me asking, did you cry with someone?

不介意我提问的话 你后来有跟谁一起哭吗？

SS: Yes.

西蒙：有

I followed my own counsel to my friends.

我给朋友提出的建议 我自己也做了

And when I had to cry, when I was overwhelmed,

当我要哭的时候 当我压力太大的时候

I picked up the phone and I just cried.

我拿起电话开始哭

And I had friends call me and do the same.

也有朋友给我打电话 做同样的事情

CA: And there was healing in that.

主持人：你们从中治愈自己

SS: The most important thing that came from it

西蒙：这其中最重要的是

was that we didn't --

我们没有

none of us felt alone.

我们没有人感到孤独

And there's intense safety.

还获得了强烈的安全感

That amazing sense of safety that we all desire as human beings.

那是我们作为人类都渴望的 一种美妙的安全感

You know, you can't feel safe when you're vulnerable,

你知道 当你脆弱的时候 你不会感到安全

like, that's when we need it the most.

这是我们最需要安全感的时候

But you have to build those relationships.

但你必须要去建立这些关系

You build those relationships in the happy times, the good times,

你是在快乐美好的时光里建立这些关系

where you think you're strong, you think you're great.

那时你认为自己很强大 你认为自己很棒

It’s very hard to start building those relationships

在危机时刻建立这些关系

in the moment of crisis.

非常困难

And I think it's a lesson for leadership, quite frankly.

坦率地说 这也是领导力方面的一个经验

也就是说 你不能根据船舶在风平浪静时的表现

Which is, you can't judge the quality of a crew

by how a ship performs in calm waters.

来判断船员的整体素质

You judge the quality of a crew by how a ship performs in rough waters.

而是要看船舶在狂风大浪中 船员是如何表现的

But the time in calm waters

但是 你需要在风平浪静时

is when you're building relationship and trust

搞好关系 建立信任

and you don't really actually know if you have trusting relationships

你无法确定你是否拥有可信任的关系

and trusting teams and loving relationships

可信任的团队 和彼此关爱的关系

until the crisis strikes.

直到危机来临 才会揭晓答案

And I heard this from a lot of people:

而且我听到很多人这么说

When COVID happened,

疫情发生后

they commented on how they realized who their real friends were.

他们才意识到 谁是他们真正的朋友

Some people kind of fell by the wayside, it was nothing personal.

有些人感到被放弃了 但这不是针对个人的

It's just like, we didn't call each other and we're still, you know,

这就像 我没给你打电话 我们仍然

没有生气或什么的

weren’t angry or anything.

And there are some people who came out of the woodwork to check in on us

有一些人突然出现 对我们嘘寒问暖

and those friendships flourished.

这样的友谊就会得到滋养

And that's what I mean.

而这正是我想说的

这些友谊和信任 要在艰难过后才开花结果

It takes hardship for those friendships and that trust to really bear fruit.

这就是为什么 当我们势头正猛 自以为不需要任何人时

But that's why we have to invest in people when we're doing well

and we don't think we need anybody.

我们恰恰需要投入到人际关系上

我想我们忘记了这一点

And I think we forget that.

CA: What would you say to someone who has realized

主持人：你会对那些意识到自己

that they're in this moment, what's been a really difficult year,

正处在抑郁状态的人说些什么呢 这是非常艰难的一年

and they actually don't feel that there's someone they could,

他们觉得没有什么人可以让他们

for example,

比方说

pick up the phone and cry with?

拿起电话一起哭

Is it hopeless for them until this passes?

在疫情过去之前 他们就没有希望了吗？

Or what would you say to them?

或者你会对他们说什么？

SS: There is an irony.

西蒙：这有个讽刺的地方

There's an irony in when we need help.

在我们需要帮助的时候 会有一个讽刺的现象

And when I was writing the book "Leaders Eat Last,"

当我在写 《团队领导最后吃饭》时

I had the opportunity to spend some time with

我有机会

前往了匿名戒酒协会

and visit Alcoholics Anonymous.

And it is a remarkable organization.

这是一个了不起的组织

And many of us are familiar with the 12-step program.

许多人都熟悉所谓的12步计划

And many of us are familiar with the first step,

许多人也熟悉第一步

which is admitting you have a problem.

就是承认你有问题

But then it's the other 11 steps that also matter.

但是其他11个步骤也很重要

And Alcoholics Anonymous knows

匿名戒酒协会知道

that if you master the first 11 steps,

如果你掌握了前11个步骤

but not the 12th,

但没有掌握第12个步骤

you are likely to succumb to the disease.

你很可能会无法戒酒

But if you master the 12 steps,

但如果你掌握了12个步骤

you're more likely to overcome the disease.

你就更有可能克服酗酒问题

That 12th step is to help another alcoholic.

第12步就是 帮助另外一个酗酒者

It's service.

要为他人服务

And so there's a great irony when we need help

所以讽刺的地方在于 当我们需要帮助的时候

to actually help someone

我们实际上就是去帮助一个

who's struggling with the same thing as us.

和因同样的问题而挣扎的人

And it is the most healing thing we can do.

这是我们能做的 最能治愈自己的事情

So, you know, if we need someone to cry with,

所以 如果我们需要有人和我们一起哭

it's to offer the shoulder for somebody else to cry with.

那就让别人 也可以依靠在我们的肩头上哭泣

If we're feeling lonely,

如果我们感到孤独

it's to be there for someone else who's struggling with loneliness.

那就向另一个孤独的人伸出援助之手

And this goes way beyond these subjects,

这个道理也不仅限于这些话题

which is if we're looking for love to help somebody else find love,

如果我们需要爱 那就去帮助别人找到爱

if we're looking for the job we love,

如果我们想要从事自己热爱的工作

to help somebody else find the job that they love.

那就去帮助别人找到他们热爱的工作

And there's tremendous value in service.

而且 为他人服务的价值是巨大的

And you hear about these things all the time,

你常常听到这样的事情

you talk to people why they chose to go in the profession they went into,

当你问人们 为什么会选择他们现在从事的职业

especially if they're in the service profession,

尤其是从事服务行业的

let's say somebody is a counselor for trauma.

比方说某人是一个创伤咨询师

And you say, why did you go into this profession?

你问 你为何选择了这个行业

"When I was younger, I suffered a trauma,

“当我年轻的时候 我遭受过创伤

and somebody was there to counsel me

那个时候有人为我做了心理咨询

and I decided I wanted to commit my life to doing that for others."

于是我决定要一生为他人做这件事情”

This is what happens with service.

这就是在为他人服务时会发生的事情

And we forget, just because we live in a modern world,

然而 因为我们生活在现代世界 我们忘记了

we're actually a very old-fashioned machine.

其实自己是一个很老式的机器

The human animal is a legacy machine living in a modern world.

人类是生活在现代世界的旧机器

And we still work the same way we used to.

我们仍像以前一样运作

And we desperately need each other to survive and thrive

我们也迫切地需要彼此来生存繁荣

as much as we did when we were living in huts

和我们以前住在草屋时

in small tribes of 150 people.

在150 人的小部落中生活时一样

And so service service is the thing.

所以服务才是重点

CA: That sounds like,

主持人：听着就像

even for someone who's not feeling, like, depressed or at the edge right now,

即便你现在没有抑郁状态或者情绪崩溃

but a good checklist-question to ask is,

但是有一个要问自己的好问题

is there someone I could reach out to actually,

我是否可以真正去帮助他人

there maybe other people who are in a much worse situation

也许别人在更糟糕的处境中

and maybe there is a call I could make

也许我可以打一个电话

that would be incredibly valuable to that person

那将对那个人意义非凡

and help build a relationship with future?

并且还能帮助我建立一份关系？

SS: "Are you OK?" "How are you?

西蒙：你还好吗？你怎么样？

You know, a friend of mine, George Flynn,

我的一个朋友 乔治弗林

he says his test for a leader is if they ask you how you're doing,

他说他自己看一个人是否是领导者 就是要看如果他们问你过得怎么样

they actually care about the answer.

他们是真的在乎这个答案

And I really like that.

我很喜欢这一点

CA: OK, I could talk with you for hours about this,

主持人：这一点我可以和你讨论几个小时

but we're going to go to some questions now.

但是我们现在要回答一些提问

So here's a question from Kayum.

Kayum提问

"If there is no way to get back to normal," as you said,

“如果没有一种方法可以回归正常” 像你说的一样

"then are we on the right path of building new normal already?

“那么 我们是在建立新常态的正确道路上吗？

Or can you help us with a blueprint that new normal should be based on?"

或者你能否帮助我们 设计一个新常态的蓝图?”

SS: So blueprint? No.

西蒙：蓝图？我给不了

Guidances? Yes.

建议？我有一些

I think that humanity has to be --

我觉得

We have to remember that humanity matters.

我们要记住 人类很重要

And when I say humanity, I don't mean big-H Humanity,

当我说人类时 我不是人类种族

I mean little-H humanity, our humanity.

而是我们的人本关怀

When COVID first happened,

疫情刚爆发时

so many leaders leaned on their humanity,

很多领导者 展现出了人本关怀

whether they were effective or ineffective leaders prior to COVID,

无论他们在疫情前 是不是有效的领导者

many of them picked up the phone and said, "Are you OK?"

很多人拿起了电话 问 “你还好吗”

They called their teams just to check in on them.

他们打给团队伙伴 看看他们过得怎样

Or they called their friends to say, "Are you OK? How are you?"

或者他们打电话问自己的朋友 “你还好吗？过得怎样？”

Well, we don't need a global pandemic to do that.

我们不需要一场全球疫情才能做到这一点

That's called good leadership

这就是所谓的优秀领导力

and we should be doing that all the time.

我们应该一直这么做

And we should be encouraging those in our charge to do the same

我们还要鼓励自己的员工也要这么做

for those in their charge.

去关心他们手下的员工

You know, the hierarchy can still be effective that way.

这样的等级制度能发挥出最大效率

I hope that remains.

我希望这种做法能保留下来

I hope that remains.

希望能保留下来

I hope the use of the telephone remains.

我希望打电话这个行为能保留下来

That we don't just go back to texting all the time.

这样我们就不用回到天天发短信的日子

I hope that putting our phones away and having family dinner remains.

我希望放下手机 一家人吃饭这种做法能保留下来

I think there's a lot of kids

我认为有很多小孩

that will actually come through this

他们经历这一切之后

with stronger relationships with their siblings if they have them,

会收获更强韧的关系 有兄弟姐妹的话 会和他们关系更好

and stronger relationship with their parents

和父母的关系也会更好

because they had so much time together.

因为他们有了很多时间呆在一起

And kids who may have struggled prior

有的小孩可能之前就在苦苦挣扎

because they weren't getting the kind of attention they needed

因为他们没有得到自己需要的关注

because their parents were so busy with work,

因为他们的父母工作很忙

you know, even if mom or dad are busy on a Zoom call all day,

即便爸妈一天都在忙着视频会议

that hour that they would ordinarily just go get a cup of coffee or something,

他们一般用来喝咖啡或者干其他事的那段时间

that they could focus on their kid.

可以用来关注自己的小孩

I think a lot of kids actually will come out of this.

我觉得很多小孩实际上能从中有所收获

And kids are remarkably adaptable.

小孩的适应力很惊人

They're remarkably adaptable.

他们的适应力真的很惊人

CA: Here’s a question from Mariusz.

主持人：Mariusz提问

"Could you give us some tips on how to discover our Why?"

“你能不能给我们讲讲 怎么找到自己的使命？”

SS: Absolutely.

西蒙：当然可以

I'll give you a little exercise that you can do with your friends.

我有个小练习 你可以和你的朋友一起做

It's called the Friends Exercise.

这个练习叫朋友练习

Find a friend you love and who loves you.

找到一个你爱的并且也爱着你的朋友

The person who, if they called you at three o'clock in the morning,

这个人如果凌晨三点给你打电话

you take the call and you know they would do the same for you.

你会接电话 而且你知道他们也会为你这么做

Do not do this with a sibling or a spouse.

不要和自己的兄弟姐妹或者配偶做这个练习

Do not do this with a parent.

不要和家长做这个练习

Those relationships are too close.

这些关系太亲密了

Do it with a best friend.

和你最好的朋友做这个练习

And go up to them and ask the simple question,

你问自己朋友一个简单的问题

"Why are we friends?"

“我们为什么是朋友？”

And they're going to look at you like you're crazy

他们会看着你 觉得你疯了

because you're asking them to put into words a feeling.

因为你正在让他们用语言描述一种感情

You're asking them to use a part of the brain, the neocortex,

你正在让他们用新大脑皮质

that doesn't control feelings,

不是用来控制感情的这一部分

and to put the thing that exists in the limbic brain into language,

把在储存在大脑边缘部分的事情化作言语

which it doesn't do.

而大脑边缘部分也不干这个事情

And so it's actually a very difficult question.

所以这其实是一个很难的问题

They're going to say, "I don't know."

他们会说 “我不知道”

It's not that they don't know, it's that they can't put it into words.

他们不是不知道 而是不能用语言描述出来

Ironically, you stop asking the question why

讽刺的是 你不要问他们为什么

and you start asking the question, "what" because "what" is a rational question.

你要问“是什么” 因为“是什么”是一个理性的问题

"What is it about me that I know that you would be there for me

“是我的什么特点 让我知道 你会支持我

no matter what?"

无论发生什么都如此？”

And they won't know how to answer it.

他们不会知道要怎么回答这个问题

They'll start describing you.

他们会开始描述你

"I don't know, you're funny, I trust you.

“我不知道 你很有趣 我信任你

You've always been there for me."

你一直都支持我”

You play devil's advocate.

你要故意唱反调

"Good. That's the definition of a friend.

“好 这是朋友的定义

What specifically is it about me

具体是我的什么特质

that I know you'd be there for me no matter what?"

让我知道你会无论如何都支持我呢？”

And they'll continue to do the same.

他们会继续做同样的事情

They'll keep trying to describe you. You keep playing devil's advocate.

他们会一直描述你 你一直跟他们唱反调

You get the idea.

大概就是这样

Eventually they'll give up and they'll start describing themselves.

最后他们会放弃 开始描述他们自己

And they'll say,

他们会说

and this is what my friend said to me when I did it with them,

这是我和一个朋友做练习时 我听到的话

"I don't know, Simon. I don't even have to talk to you.

“我不知道 西蒙 我甚至不用跟你说话

I could just sit in the same room as you and I feel inspired."

我只要和你呆在一个房间 我就觉得你鼓舞了我”

And I got goosebumps, I'm getting them right now.

我当时鸡皮疙瘩都起来了 我现在也起了鸡皮疙瘩

They will articulate the value you have in their life

他们会清楚说出你给他们生活带来的价值

and you will have some sort of emotional response,

你会有某种情绪反应

goosebumps or you'll well up,

起鸡皮疙瘩或者眼泪汪汪

because what they're telling you is your Why,

因为他们正在告诉你你的使命

your Why is the thing you give to the world.

你的使命就是你要为世界带来的事情

You can do this with multiple friends and they will say almost exactly,

你可以和几个朋友做这个练习 他们的回答会差不多

if not the exact same thing, because that is your Why.

或者是完全一样 因为这就是你的使命

That is the thing you give to the world.

这就是你要给世界带来的事情

So it may not give you exact language,

所以他们可能不会用同样的话说出来

but it will put you squarely in the ballpark for what your Why is.

但是你会对自己的使命有大致的概念

CA: Here's an anonymous question.

主持人：一个匿名提问

"I have a friend who is currently struggling with depression,

“我有个朋友 正患有抑郁症

and he's just not like he used to be.

他和以前不一样了

I don't know what to say to him.

我不知道跟他说什么

He's actually annoyed by the question, 'How are you doing?'

他很不愿意听到‘你过得好吗’这个问题

How can I offer my help?"

我怎样才能帮到他？”

SS: So one of the things I learned by accident a couple of years ago

西蒙：我在几年前无意中学到了一件事情

is sometimes statements work better than questions.

有时候陈述句比疑问句更好用

Because questions people can avoid, right?

因为人们可以逃避疑问句 对吧

This is what we all did during COVID.

我们在疫情期间都这么做

"How are you?" "Fine. Fine." Everyone's fine, right?

“你好吗？”“好 好” 大家都过得挺好 对吧？

And then what do you do with that?

之后你要怎么办呢？

And so try making a statement, right?

可以尝试用陈述句 对吧

Something's wrong.

事情不对劲

Something's different.

事情不一样了

You're not the same.

你变得不一样了

I'm worried about you.

我很担心你

Make statements.

用陈述句

And it leaves very little room

这样就不会有什么余地

for somebody to divert the conversation.

能让对方躲避交流

You're not the person I know.

你和我认识的那个人不一样了

And do it with love and empathy and the most important thing,

用爱和体谅的语气说出来 最重要的是

don't show up to solve the problem.

不要一副要解决问题的样子

Especially when you're starting to have a difficult conversation,

尤其是当你刚开始进行一场艰难的交流

you don't show up to solve the problem.

不要一出场就想着解决问题

You show up to create an environment

你出现是要营造一种环境

in which they'd be willing to open up to you.

让他们愿意对你敞开心扉

That's the only goal.

这是你唯一的目标

So try a statement instead of a question.

试着用陈述句而不是疑问句来交流

CA: So here's the last question, I'm going to ask this for me.

主持人：最后一个问题 是我提问的

What do you mean, Simon, when you say that everyone is a leader?

西蒙 你说每个人都是一个领导者 这是什么意思呢？

SS: Leadership has nothing to do with rank or title.

西蒙：领导力和地位或职称无关

I know many people who sit at the highest levels of organizations

我认识很多人身居机构高层

who are not leaders.

他们却不能算是领导者

We do as they tell us because they have authority over us,

我们按他们说的做 因为他们是我们的上司

but we don't trust them and we wouldn't follow them.

但是我们不信任他们 也不愿意追随他们

And yet I also know many people who sit at very low levels of organizations

但是我也知道有很多人虽然身居机构低层

that have no formal rank and no formal authority,

没有正式的地位或者官方的权威

and yet they've made the choice

但他们决定

to look after the person to the left of them

照顾身边的人

and the person to the right of them,

照顾周围的人

and we would trust them and follow them anywhere.

我们会信任他们 并追随他们

Leadership is the responsibility to see those around us rise.

领导力是要负责让周围的人进步

It's the responsibility to take care of those around us.

是负责照顾我们身边的人

That's what leadership is.

这才是领导力

It's not about being in charge.

重点不在于是否掌权

It's about taking care of those in our charge.

重点在于照顾自己手下的人

And the only thing title and authority allow you to do

职称和权威唯一能让你做的

is lead with greater scale.

就是领导更多的人

Every single one of us has the opportunity to be the leader we wish we had.

我们每个人都有机会成为我们想要的那种领导者

Every single one of us.

每个人都有机会

CA: Simon, thank you so much for spending this time with us.

主持人：西蒙 非常感谢你的发言

SS: Thanks, Chris. I really appreciate it.

西蒙：谢谢 非常感谢

Take care of yourself. Take care of each other.

照顾好自己 照顾好彼此

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