Why it's so hard to make healthy decisions | David Asch

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翻译人员: Jessie Zhang 校对人员: Jiasi Hao
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It's April of 2007,
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那是 2007 年的 4 月,
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and Jon Corzine, the Governor of New Jersey,
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新泽西州的州长, 荣·科赞(Jon Corzine),
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is in this horrific car accident.
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陷入了一场可怕的车祸。
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He's in the right front passenger seat of this SUV
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当他乘坐的那辆 SUV 在花园州高速公路撞毁的时候,
00:23
when it crashes on the Garden State Parkway.
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他正坐在副驾驶的座位上。
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He's transported to a New Jersey trauma center
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他被转移到一家新泽西的 创伤治疗中心,
00:28
with multiple broken bones and multiple lacerations.
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身上伴有多处骨折和撕裂。
00:31
He needs immediate surgery, seven units of blood,
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他需要立即接受手术、 7 品脱的输血、
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a mechanical ventilator to help him breathe
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一个帮助他呼吸的呼吸机,
00:36
and several more operations along the way.
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以及即将面临的又几场手术。
00:39
It's amazing he survived.
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他能活下来真的令人震惊。
00:41
But perhaps even more amazing,
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但可能更令人震惊的是,
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he was not wearing a seat belt.
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他当时在车里根本没系安全带。
00:45
And, in fact, he never wore a seat belt,
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事实上,他之前从来不系安全带,
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and the New Jersey state troopers who used to drive Governor Corzine around
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曾经开车载过科赞州长的 新泽西州巡逻队员
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used to beg him to wear a seat belt,
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曾求着他系上安全带,
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but he didn't do it.
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但是他从来没系过。
其实,在科赞当上 新泽西州州长之前,
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Now, before Corzine was Governor of New Jersey,
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00:57
he was the US Senator from New Jersey,
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曾是新泽西州的联邦参议员,
再之前,是高盛投资公司的 CEO ,
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and before that, he was the CEO of Goldman Sachs,
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01:02
responsible for taking Goldman Sachs public,
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负责高盛的上市,
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making hundreds of millions of dollars.
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并为其赚取了上亿美元。
01:07
Now, no matter what you think of Jon Corzine politically
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不论你从政治上 还是挣钱方式上
01:10
or how he made his money,
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是如何看待荣·科赞这个人的,
01:12
nobody would say that he was stupid.
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没人会说他是个蠢人。
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But there he was,
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但是你瞧他,
01:15
an unrestrained passenger in a car accident,
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在每一个美国人都知道 安全带能救命的时候,
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at a time when every American knows that seat belts save lives.
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他就是那个车祸现场中 不系安全带的人。
01:23
This single story reflects a fundamental weakness
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这个简单的故事反映出
我们在改善健康行为的方法中 的一个基本的弱点。
01:26
in our approach to improving health behavior.
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Nearly everything we tell doctors and everything we tell patients
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我们告诉医生和病人的 一切东西几乎
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is based on the idea that we behave rationally.
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都是基于“人类行为是理性的”观点。
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If you give me information, I will process that information in my head,
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如果你给我信息, 我会在脑袋里分析那个信息,
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and my behavior will change as a result.
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然后我的行为会随之改变。
01:43
Do you think Jon Corzine didn't know that seat belts save lives?
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你觉得荣·科赞 不知道安全带能救命吗?
你觉得他只是没收到提示便笺吗?
01:47
Do you think he, like, just didn't get the memo?
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01:49
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:50
Jon Corzine did not have a knowledge deficit,
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荣·科赞没有知识缺失,
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he had a behavior deficit.
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他有的是行为上的缺失。
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It's not that he didn't know better.
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他不是知道的少,
01:57
He knew better.
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他知道的并不少。
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It's that he didn't do better.
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而他,没能做好。
02:02
Instead, I think the mind is a high-resistance pathway.
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另外,我认为人的思想 是个抵御性很强的东西。
02:07
Changing someone's mind with information is hard enough.
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用信息改变一个人的思想 已经够难的了,
用信息改变他们的行为
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Changing their behavior with information
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is harder still.
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更是难上加难。
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The only way we're going to make substantial improvements
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我们能在健康和医疗保健方面
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in health and health care
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做出较大改善的唯一方法,
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is to make substantial improvements in the behavior of health and health care.
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就是尽可能改善人们 在健康和医疗保健方面的行为方式。
02:26
If you hit my patellar tendon with a reflex hammer,
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如果你用一个反射锤 敲击我的膑腱,
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my leg is going to jerk forward,
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我的腿会向前弹起,
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and it's going to jerk forward a lot faster and a lot more predictably
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而且会比我自己 想着让它弹起的时候
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than if I had to think about it myself.
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弹得更快,更具可预测性。
这是一种反射行为。
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It's a reflex.
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02:38
We need to look for the equivalent behavioral reflexes
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我们得找到相似的反射行为,
02:42
and hitch our health care wagon to those.
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并把我们的医疗保健 都靠到这些反射行为上来。
02:45
Turns out, though,
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但实际上,
最常规的激励人们的举措
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that most conventional approaches to human motivation
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02:50
are based on the idea of education.
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却是建立在“教育”这一理念上的。
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We assume that if people don't behave as they should,
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我们假定如果人们 没有做出他们应有的行为
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it's because they didn't know any better.
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是因为他们缺乏知识。
“如果人们知道抽烟很危险, 他们就不会抽烟了。”
02:58
"If only people knew that smoking was dangerous, they wouldn't smoke."
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03:02
Or, we think about economics.
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或者,我们会从经济的角度思考。
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The assumption there is that we're all constantly calculating
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我们假定自己会不断地计算
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the costs and benefits of every one of our actions
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我们每一个行为蕴含的 成本和收益,
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and optimizing that to make the perfectly right, rational decision.
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以及为了收益最大化, 我们会做出完全正确且理性的决定。
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If that were true, then all we need to do
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如果这是真的,所有我们需要的
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is to find the perfect payment system for doctors
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仅仅是给医生找到 一个完美的付费系统,
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or the perfect co-payments and deductibles for patients,
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或是能给患者完美计算出 部分承担费用和免赔额,
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and everything would work out.
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然后一切就自然解决了。
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A better approach lies in behavioral economics.
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行为经济学中 有一个更好的方法。
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Behavioral economists recognize that we are irrational.
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行为经济学家意识到 我们其实是非理性的。
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Our decisions are based on emotion,
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我们的决定是建立在情绪上的,
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or they're sensitive to framing or to social context.
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或是被社会环境 或规则框架所影响的。
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We don't always do what's in our own long-term best interests.
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我们不总是会做出 有利于我们长远利益的行为。
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But the key contribution to behavioral economics
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但是,对行为经济学最主要的贡献
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is not in recognizing that we are irrational;
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不是对“人类是非理性的”认识,
而是意识到 “人类的非理性行为是高度可预测的”。
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it's recognizing that we are irrational in highly predictable ways.
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03:48
In fact, it's the predictability of our psychological foibles
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事实上,正是我们心理上 那些小缺陷的可预测性
使我们能设计出策略来攻克它们。
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that allows us to design strategies to overcome them.
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03:55
Forewarned is forearmed.
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预先警告就宛如事先武装。
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In fact, behavioral economists often use
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事实上,行为经济学家 经常精准利用
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precisely the same behavioral reflexes that get us into trouble
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那些让我们陷入麻烦的 行为反射,
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and turn them around to help us,
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转而让它们来帮助我们,
而不是伤害我们。
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rather than to hurt us.
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04:08
We see irrationality play out in something called "present bias,"
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我们可以在一种叫做“即时偏误”的 现象中看见非理性的作用,
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where the outcomes in front of us are much more motivating
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这种现象,是我们正在面对的结果
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than even more important outcomes far in the future.
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比将来会出现的更重要的结果 更能调动我们的积极性。
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If I'm on a diet -- and I'm always on a diet --
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如果我在节食—— 其实我一直在节食——
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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and someone offers me a luscious-looking piece of chocolate cake,
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这时有人给了我一个 看上去很美味的巧克力蛋糕,
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I know I should not eat that chocolate cake.
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我知道我不应该吃那个蛋糕。
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That chocolate cake will land on that part of my body -- permanently --
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那块巧克力蛋糕会沉积在 我身体中——永远——
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where that kind of food naturally settles.
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就在这类食物会自然沉积 的身体部位上。
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But the chocolate cake looks so good and delicious,
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但是那块巧克力蛋糕 看起来如此美味,
而且它就在我的眼前,
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and it's right in front of me,
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04:45
and the diet can wait 'til tomorrow.
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那节食可以明天再说了。
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I used to love the comedian Steven Wright.
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我曾经很喜欢一个喜剧演员, 史蒂文·赖特。
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He would have these Zen-like quips.
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他经常说些很有禅意的玩笑话。
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My favorite one was this:
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我最喜欢的是这个:
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"Hard work pays off in the future,
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“努力了将来会有回报,
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but laziness pays off right now."
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但是懒惰了现在就会有回报。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And patients also have present bias.
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患者也有即时偏误。
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If you have high blood pressure,
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如果你有高血压,
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even if you would desperately like to avoid a stroke,
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即使你极度想避免中风,
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and you know that taking your antihypertensive medications
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而且你知道吃降血压药
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is one of the best ways to reduce that risk,
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是降低这种风险最有效的方式之一,
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the stroke you avoid is far in the future and taking medications is right now.
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然而,中风是很久以后可能发生的事, 而吃药则是现在要做的。
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Almost half of the patients who are prescribed high blood pressure pills
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几乎有一半开了降血压药的患者
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stop taking them within a year.
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在一年内就停止了服药。
想想如果我们单单解决这一个问题
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Think of how many lives we could save
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就能拯救多少生命。
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if we could solve just that one problem.
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05:31
We also tend to overestimate the value of small probabilities.
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我们也容易高估小概率事件的价值。
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This actually explains why state lotteries are so popular,
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这也许能解释为什么国营彩票 即使回报极小,
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even though they return pennies on the dollar.
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却依旧这么受欢迎。
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Now, some of you may buy lottery tickets --
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在座的一些人可能会买彩票——
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it's fun, there's the chance you might strike it rich ...
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买彩票挺有意思的, 你有可能中大奖、变富有——
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But let's face it:
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但是咱们清醒一点吧:
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this would be a horrible way to invest your retirement savings.
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这可能是个花掉你养老金的 很糟糕的方式。
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I once saw a bumper sticker -- I am not making this up -- that said,
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我曾经看到过一张车尾贴—— 这不是我编的——写着,
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"State lotteries are a special tax on people who can't do math."
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“国营彩票是向不会 数学计算的人征收的智商税”。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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It's not that we can't do the math,
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我们并不是不会做数学计算,
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it's that we can't feel the math.
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我们是感受不到这种计算。
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And we also pay much too much attention to regret.
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而且我们花太多精力在后悔上。
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We all hate the feeling of missing out.
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我们都痛恨错过机会的感觉。
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So, actually, there was this recent lottery,
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所以,事实上,最近有个彩票,
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a mega-jackpot lottery,
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大乐透彩票,
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that had a huge payoff, something like over a billion dollars.
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回报超高,大概超过 10 亿美元。
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And everyone in my office is pooling money to buy lottery tickets,
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我办公室里的每个人都在 掏钱集资买彩票,
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and I'm not having any of this.
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我一点都不理解。
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There I am, like, swaggering around the office,
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我在办公室里转悠,嚷嚷着:
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"Lotteries are a special tax on people who can't do math."
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“彩票是向不会数学计算的人 征收的智商税。”
06:29
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And then it hits me:
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然后一个想法击中了我:
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uh oh.
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啊呀,
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What if they win?
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万一他们中奖了呢?
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I'm the only one who shows up at work the next day.
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我就成了第二天唯一来上班的人了。
(笑声)
06:39
(Laughter)
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不是我不想让我的同事中奖。
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Now, it's not that I didn't want my colleagues to win.
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I just didn't want them to win without me.
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我只是不想让他们丢下我,自己中奖。
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Now, it would have been easier if I had just taken my 20-dollar bill
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如果我当初拿出一张 20 美元钞票 直接塞进办公室的碎纸机里,
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and put it into the office shredder,
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事情本会简单很多,
而且结果也会是一样的。
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and the results would have been the same.
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即使我知道我不应该参与,
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Even though I knew I shouldn't participate,
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I handed over my $20 bill,
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我还是递出了 20 美元钞票,
之后我再也没见过它。
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and I never saw it again.
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07:00
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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We've done a bunch of experiments with patients
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我们和患者做过一些实验。
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in which we give them these electronic pill bottles
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我们给患者们电子药瓶,
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so we can tell whether they're taking their medication or not.
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以便于知道他们是否在吃药。
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And we reward them with a lottery.
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我们用彩票奖励他们。
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They get prizes.
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他们能得到奖品。
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But they only get prizes
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但他们只有在前一天吃药的情况下
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if they had taken their medication the day before.
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才能得到奖品。
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If not, they get a message that says something like,
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如果没吃,他们会收到 一条诸如此类的信息:
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"You would have won a hundred dollars,
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“你本来能赢 100 美金,
但是你昨天没吃药, 所以你没法得到这笔钱。”
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but you didn't take your medicine yesterday, so you don't get it."
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07:28
Well, it turns out, patients hate that.
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事实证明,患者们痛恨那种感觉。
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They hate the sense of missing out,
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他们痛恨错过的感觉,
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and because they can anticipate that feeling of regret
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而且因为他们能预判到 那种悔恨的感觉,
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and they'd like to avoid it,
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于是想要尽量避开它,
07:37
they're much more likely to take their medications.
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所以他们更有可能会吃药了。
掌控那种痛恨后悔的感觉是有用的。
07:40
Harnessing that sense of hating regret works.
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07:43
And it leads to the more general point,
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它引出了更一般化的观点,
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which is: once you recognize how people are irrational,
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即:一旦你认识到人是非理性的,
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you're in a much better position to help them.
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你就会处于一个 能够更好地帮助他们的位置。
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Now, this kind of irrationality works out even in men's restrooms.
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这种非理性 甚至在男厕所也能用得上。
在座的不常光顾小便池的人,
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So, for those of you who don't frequent urinals,
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08:03
let me break this down for you.
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让我给你们解析一下。
08:05
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:06
There is pee all over the floor.
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地板上全是尿。
08:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:11
And it turns out that you can solve this problem
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事实证明,你只要在小便池上 蚀刻一个苍蝇的形象,
08:13
by etching the image of a fly in the back of the urinal.
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就能解决这个问题。
08:17
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(笑声) (掌声)
08:21
And it makes perfect sense.
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这完全说得通。
08:22
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:24
If I see a fly,
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如果我看见一只苍蝇,
我一定要射中那只苍蝇。
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I'm gonna get that fly.
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08:27
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:31
That fly is going down.
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那只苍蝇会被冲入下水道。
08:33
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:34
Now, this naturally begs the question that if men can aim,
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这自然地引出了一个问题: 如果男人们上厕所时能瞄准,
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why were they peeing on the floor in the first place?
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他们一开始为什么要尿到地上?
08:40
In fact, if they were going to pee on the floor,
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实际上,如果他们 本来就打算尿到地上,
又为什么要跑到小便池前面去尿?
08:43
why pee in front of the urinal?
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你可以在任何地方尿。
08:44
You could pee anywhere.
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08:45
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:46
And the same thing works in health care.
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同样的道理也适用于医疗保健。
08:50
We had a problem in our hospital
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我们医院当时有个这样的问题:
08:52
in which the physicians were prescribing brand-name drugs
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当普通药可供选择的时,
08:57
when a generic drug was available.
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医生们却一直在开品牌药。
08:59
Each one of the lines on this graph represents a different drug.
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这张图上的每条线 代表一种不同的药物。
09:03
And they're listed according to how often they're prescribed as generic medications.
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这些药根据被当做普通药开 的频率被列了出来。
09:07
Those are the top are prescribed as generics 100 percent of the time.
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位于顶部的, 是一直都被当做普通药开的。
下面那些, 不到 20% 的机率
09:11
Those down at the bottom are prescribed as generics
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09:13
less than 20 percent of the time.
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是被当做普通药开的。
09:15
And we'd have meetings with clinicians and all sorts of education sessions,
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我们跟临床医师们开过会, 也办过各种教学会议,
09:18
and nothing worked --
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但是都没用——
09:19
all the lines are pretty much horizontal.
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所有的这些线,几乎都没变。
09:22
Until, someone installed a little piece of software
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直到,有个人在电子健康记录表里
安装了一个小软件,
09:26
in the electronic health record
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09:27
that defaulted the prescriptions to generic medications
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把处方设置为默认开普通药,
09:31
instead of the brand-name drugs.
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而非品牌药。
09:34
Now, it doesn't take a statistician
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现在,不用统计分析员
09:35
to see that this problem was solved overnight,
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也能看出来, 问题一夜之间就解决了,
09:38
and it has stayed solved ever since.
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而且之后再没有出现此类问题。
09:41
In fact, in the two and a half years since this program started,
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事实上, 在这个项目上线的两年半内,
09:44
our hospital has saved 32 million dollars.
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我们医院 已经省下了 3200 万美元。
09:47
Let me say that again: 32 million dollars.
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让我再说一遍: 3200 万美元。
09:51
And all we did was make it easier
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我们所做的,只不过是 把医生们一直以来想做的事
09:54
for the doctors to do what they fundamentally wanted to do all along.
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变得容易做了而已。
10:00
It also works to play into people's notions of loss.
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利用人们对损失的概念也有用。
10:06
We did this with a contest to help people walk more.
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我们办了场比赛 来帮助人们走更多路。
10:10
We wanted everyone to walk at least 7,000 steps,
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我们想让每个人至少走 7 千步,
10:14
and we measured their step count
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我们也用他们手机上的计步器
10:16
with the accelerometer on their cell phone.
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以记录他们行走的步数。
10:19
Group A, the control group, just got told whether they had walked
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A 组,控制变量组, 仅被告知他们
是否走够 7 千步。
10:22
7,000 steps or not.
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10:25
Group B got a financial incentive.
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B 组,有金钱刺激。
10:28
We gave them $1.40 for every day they walked 7,000 steps.
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每天如果他们走了 7 千步, 我们就奖励他们 1.4 美金。
10:33
Group C got the same financial incentive,
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C组,有相同的金钱刺激,
10:35
but it was framed as a loss rather than a gain:
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但这种刺激被包装成损失 而不是收益:
10:38
$1.40 a day is 42 dollars a month,
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每天 1.4 美金 即 42 美金一个月,
10:41
so we gave these participants 42 dollars at the beginning of each month
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所以在每个月的头一天 我们给这些参与者 42 美金,
10:45
in a virtual account that they could see,
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就放在他们能看见的虚拟账户里,
然后如果他们每天没走够 7 千步, 我们就从账户里取走 1.4 美金。
10:48
and we took away $1.40 for every day they didn't walk 7,000 steps.
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10:52
Now, an economist would say that those two financial incentives
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一个经济学家可能会说, 这两种金钱刺激的结果
10:55
are the same.
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是一样的。
10:57
For every day you walk 7,000 steps, you're $1.40 richer.
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因为每天你走够 7 千步的话, 你都能赚 1.4 美金。
11:01
But a behavioral economist would say that they're different,
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但是一个行为经济学家会说, 它们的结果是不同的,
11:04
because we're much more motivated to avoid a $1.40 loss
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因为我们为避免损失 1.4 美金 会比赚取 1.4 美金
11:08
than we are motivated to achieve a $1.40 gain.
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来得更有动力。
实验结果也确实如此。
11:12
And that's exactly what happened.
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11:14
Those in the group that received $1.40 for every day they walked 7,000 steps
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那些每天因为走 7 千步 而收到 1.4 美金的人
11:18
were no more likely to meet their goal than the control group.
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并不比控制变量组(没有金钱激励) 更能达到目标。
11:21
The financial incentive didn't work.
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金钱刺激没能起作用。
而那些受到损失刺激的人
11:24
But those who had a loss-framed incentive
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11:26
met their goal 50 percent more of the time.
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则有 50% 更高的可能 完成目标。
11:29
It doesn't make economic sense, but it makes psychological sense,
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这在经济学上说不通, 但在心理学上是说得通的,
11:33
because losses loom larger than gains.
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因为损失比收益带来的刺激更大。
11:35
And now we're using loss-framed incentives to help patients walk more,
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现在我们已经在用这种损失刺激法 去帮助患者走更多路、
11:40
lose weight
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减肥,
11:41
and take their medications.
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以及吃药了。
11:43
Money can be a motivator.
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钱可以是一个激励因素,
11:46
We all know that.
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我们都知道这一点。
11:47
But it's far more influential when it's paired with psychology.
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但当它与心理学配对使用时 更具有影响力。
11:52
And money, of course, has its own disadvantages.
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当然,金钱有其自身缺点。
我最喜欢的例子, 说的是一个日托项目。
11:55
My favorite example of this involves a daycare program.
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11:59
The greatest sin you can commit in daycare is picking up your kids late.
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你能在日托中犯下的最大的罪孽 就是接孩子接晚了。
12:04
No one is happy.
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没人开心。
12:05
Your kids are crying because you don't love them.
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你的孩子在哭,因为你不爱他们。
12:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:09
The teachers are unhappy because they leave work late.
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老师不开心,因为他们下班晚了。
12:12
And you feel terribly guilty.
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你也觉得极其内疚。
12:14
This daycare program in Israel decided they wanted to stop this problem,
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以色列的这个日托项目 就想解决这个问题,
12:18
and they did something that many daycare programs in the US do,
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而且他们做的, 是许多美国日托项目也在做的事,
12:21
which is they installed a fine for late pickups.
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就是给晚接孩子的人设置罚款。
12:23
And the fine they chose was 10 shekels,
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他们把罚款定为 10 谢克尔(以色列货币单位),
12:26
which is about three bucks.
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大概相当于 3 美元。
12:29
And guess what happened?
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猜猜然后发生了什么?
12:31
Late pickups increased.
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晚接孩子的情况恶化了。
12:34
And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense.
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如果你仔细想想的话, 这完全说得通。
12:37
What a deal!
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多合适的买卖啊!
12:38
For 10 shekels --
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10 谢克尔——
12:39
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:40
you can keep my kids all night!
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你就能一晚上不用接孩子!
12:42
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
家长们卯足了内在动机, 准时接孩子,
12:45
They took a perfectly strong intrinsic motivation not to be late,
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结果日托机构 把这个动机因素变得廉价了。
12:49
and they cheapened it.
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12:50
What's worse, when they realized their mistake
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更糟的是, 当日托机构意识到自己的错误,
12:53
and they took away the financial incentive,
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把迟到罚款的规则撤回时,
12:56
the late pickups still stayed at the high level.
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晚接孩子的情况丝毫没有改观。
12:58
They had already poisoned the social contract.
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他们已经毒害了社会契约。
13:02
Health care is full of strong intrinsic motivations.
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医疗保健充满了强大的内在动机。
13:05
We have doctors and patients who already want to do the right thing.
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医生和患者本身就想做正确的事。
13:09
Financial incentives can help,
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金钱刺激也有正面作用。
13:12
but we shouldn't expect money in health care
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但是我们不能盼着
金钱能在医疗保健中 承担全部的重任。
13:15
to do all of the heavy lifting.
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相反,对健康行为 最有效的影响因素
13:18
Instead, perhaps the most powerful influencers of health behavior
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13:22
are our social interactions.
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可能是我们的社会互动。
13:24
Social engagement works in health care,
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社会参与在医疗保健中是起作用的,
主要体现在两个方面。
13:27
and it works in two directions.
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13:29
First, we fundamentally care what others think of us.
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第一,我们本能地在意 别人对我们的看法。
13:34
And so one of the most powerful ways to change our behavior
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所以改变我们行为 最有效的方法之一
13:38
is to make our activities witnessable to others.
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就是让我们的行为能被别人看见。
13:41
We behave differently when we're being observed
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我们在被观察, 和不在被观察时候的行为表现
13:44
than when we're not.
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是不同的。
13:45
I've been to some restaurants that don't have sinks in the bathrooms.
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我去过几个饭店, 它们厕所里没有水槽,
13:48
Instead, when you step out, the sink is outside
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但当你走出来,水槽在外面,
在饭店的主要位置,
13:51
in the main part of the restaurant,
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13:52
where everyone can see whether you wash your hands or not.
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这时候所有人都能看见 你洗没洗手。
我不是很确定,
13:55
Now, I don't know for sure,
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13:56
but I am convinced that handwashing is much greater
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但我敢保证在那些特定环境下
洗手的人变多了。
13:59
in those particular settings.
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14:00
We are always on our best behavior when we're being observed.
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我们在被观察的时候, 总能表现出最好的行为。
14:04
In fact, there was this amazing study
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事实上,在佛罗里达一家医院
的重症监护室里, 进行了一项很棒的研究。
14:06
that was done in an intensive care unit in a Florida hospital.
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14:09
The handwashing rates were very low, which is dangerous, of course,
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这里的洗手率非常低, 当然,这很危险,
14:12
because it can spread infection.
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因为该行为 会传播疾病,导致感染。
14:15
And so some researchers pasted a picture of someone's eyes over the sink.
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所以一些研究员在水槽上 贴了一张人眼的照片。
14:20
It wasn't a real person, it was just a photograph.
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那不是一个真人,只是一张照片。
14:22
In fact, it wasn't even their whole face, it was just their eyes looking at you.
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实际上,那甚至都不是一整张脸, 只是一双眼睛看着你。
(笑声)
14:26
(Laughter)
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14:27
Handwashing rates more than doubled.
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洗手率翻了不止一倍。
我们似乎是如此在意 别人对我们的看法,
14:29
It seems we care so much what other people think of us
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14:32
that our behavior improves
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以至于我们的行为会就此改进,
14:33
even if we merely imagine that we're being observed.
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即使我们仅仅只是 想象我们在被别人观察着。
14:37
And not only do we care what others think of us,
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而且我们不只是在意 别人怎么看我们,
14:40
we fundamentally model our behaviors on what we see other people do.
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我们还会本能地模仿他人行为。
14:45
And it all comes back to seat belts.
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这一切又回到安全带上来了。
14:48
When I was a kid, I used to love the "Batman" TV series with Adam West.
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我小的时候,喜欢看亚当·韦斯特 演的电视剧《蝙蝠侠》。
14:54
Everything that Batman and Robin did was so cool,
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蝙蝠侠和罗宾做的所有事都特酷,
14:57
and, of course, the Batmobile was the coolest thing of all.
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当然了,蝙蝠车是所有事情里最酷的。
15:00
Now, that show aired from 1966 to 1968,
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那个电视剧从 1966 年播到 1968 年,
15:04
and at that time, seat belts were optional accessories in cars.
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在那个年代,安全带 还是车里可有可无的配件。
15:08
But the producers of that show did something really important.
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但是那个电视剧的出品人 做了一件非常重要的事。
15:11
When Batman and Robin got in the Batmobile,
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当蝙蝠侠和罗宾坐上那辆蝙蝠车时,
15:14
the camera would focus on their laps,
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相机会聚焦到他们腿上,
15:16
and you would see Batman and Robin put on their seat belts.
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然后你会看到蝙蝠侠和罗宾 系上了他们的安全带。
15:19
Now, if Batman and Robin put on their seat belts,
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如果蝙蝠侠和罗宾 系上了安全带,
15:21
you can bet that I was going to wear my seat belt, too.
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你可以打赌 我也会系上我的安全带。
15:24
I bet that show saved thousands of lives.
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我打赌那个电视剧 拯救了上千条生命。
15:26
And again, it works in health care, too.
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再次,这在医疗保健中也能起作用。
15:29
Doctors use antibiotics more appropriately when they see how other doctors use them.
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在看见别的医生如何使用抗生素后, 医生自己能更加适当地使用抗生素。
15:35
So many activities in health care are hidden, they're unwitnessed,
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医疗保健中的许多行动 是隐匿的,别人看不见。
但医生是社会动物,
15:40
but doctors are social animals,
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15:42
and they perform better when they see what other doctors do.
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因此当他们能看见其他医生的做法时, 他们自己也能表现得更好。
15:47
So social influence works in health care.
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所以社会影响在医疗保健中 是有积极作用的,
15:49
So does tying it to notions of regret or to loss aversion.
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把它与后悔感和损失规避 联系起来也是大有裨益的。
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We would never think of using these tools if we thought that everyone was rational
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如果我们认为每个人 时刻都是理性的,
那我们永远不会想到 利用这些工具。
15:59
all the time.
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Now, just to be clear: I am not condemning rationality.
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这里我要澄清一点: 我不是在指责理性。
16:03
I mean, that really would be irrational.
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这才会是真正的不理性。
16:06
But we all know that it's the nonrational parts of our minds
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但我们都知道, 正是我们思想中那些不理性的部分
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where we get courage, creativity, inspiration
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给予我们勇气、创造力、灵感,
16:14
and everything else that sparks passion.
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以及其他一切能激发激情的东西。
16:17
And we know something else, too.
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我们还知道一些别的。
16:19
We know that we can be much more effective at improving health behavior
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我们知道如果我们能 与天性中不理性的部分合作,
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if we work with the irrational parts of our nature
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而不是忽视、或跟它们反着来,
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instead of ignoring them or fighting against them.
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我们就能更有效地改善 我们的健康行为。
16:30
When it comes to health care,
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当谈到医疗保健时,
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understanding our irrationality is just another tool in our toolbox.
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理解我们的非理性 只是工具箱中的一个工具。
而掌控这种非理性——
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And harnessing that irrationality --
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that may be the most rational move of all.
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或许才是所有行为中最理性的。
16:44
Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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