The best way to help is often just to listen | Sophie Andrews

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Sojeong KIM ๊ฒ€ํ† : TJ Kim
00:12
After cutting her arm with a broken glass,
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๊นจ์ง„ ์œ ๋ฆฌ ์กฐ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์†๋ชฉ์„ ๊ทธ์€ ํ›„
00:15
she fell into a fitful, exhausted sleep on the railway station platform.
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์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ์—ด์ฐจ ์Šน๊ฐ•์žฅ์—์„œ ํƒˆ์ง„ํ•ด ์ž ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:21
Early in the morning, when the station toilets were opened,
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์•„์นจ ์ผ์ฐ ํ™”์žฅ์‹ค ๋ฌธ์ด ์—ด๋ฆฌ์ž
00:24
she got painfully to her feet, and made her way over to them.
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์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ํž˜๊ฒน๊ฒŒ ๋ชธ์„ ์ผ์œผ์ผœ ๊ทธ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑธ์–ด ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:28
When she saw her reflection in the mirror,
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๊ฑฐ์šธ์— ๋น„์นœ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด๊ณ 
00:30
she started to cry.
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์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ์šธ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
Her face was dirty and tearstained;
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์ง€์ €๋ถ„ํ•œ ์–ผ๊ตด์€ ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ ์ž๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์–ผ๋ฃฉ์กŒ๊ณ 
00:34
her shirt was ripped and covered in blood.
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์˜ท์€ ์ฐข๊ฒจ์ ธ ํ”ผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
She looked as if she'd been on the streets for three months, not three days.
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3์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ 3๊ฐœ์›”์€ ๋…ธ์ˆ™ํ•œ๋“ฏํ•œ ๋ชฐ๊ณจ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
00:42
She washed herself as best she could.
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์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ์•ˆ๊ฐ„ํž˜์„ ์จ ๋ชธ์„ ์”ป์–ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
Her arms and stomach were hurting badly.
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ํŒ”๊ณผ ๋ฐฐ์˜ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๊ฐ€ ์•„์ฃผ ์‹ฌํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:49
She tried to clean the wounds,
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์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์”ป์–ด ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
00:50
but any pressure she applied just started the bleeding again.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ๋งŒ ๊ฑด๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ํ˜๋Ÿฌ ๋‚˜์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
She needed stitches, but there was no way she would go to a hospital.
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์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฟฐ๋งค์•ผ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ณ‘์›์€ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
They'd have sent her back home again.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ๋ ค๋ณด๋‚ผ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
01:01
Back to him.
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๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
01:03
She tightened her jacket --
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์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ํ•์ž๊ตญ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋ ค๊ณ 
01:05
well, fastened her jacket tightly to cover the blood.
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๊ฒ‰์˜ท์„ ๋‹จ๋‹จํžˆ ์‹ธ๋งธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:09
She looked back at herself in the mirror.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ์šธ ์† ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:11
She looked a little better than before but was past caring.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‚˜์•„ ๋ณด์˜€์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:16
There was only one thing she could think of doing.
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๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์—” ์˜ค์ง ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:19
She came out of the station and into a phone box nearby.
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์—ญ์„ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜จ ์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทผ์ฒ˜ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:23
(Telephone rings)
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(์ „ํ™”๋ฒจ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
01:28
(Telephone rings)
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(์ „ํ™”๋ฒจ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
01:32
Woman: Samaritans, can I help you?
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”?
01:37
Hello, Samaritans. Can I help you?
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์—ฌ๋ณด์„ธ์š”, '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”?
01:40
Girl: (Crying) I -- I don't know.
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์†Œ๋…€: (์šธ๋จน์ด๋ฉฐ) ์ „.. ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
01:42
Woman: What's happened? You sound very upset.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด์„ธ์š”? ๋งŽ์ด ์†์ƒํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:46
(Girl cries)
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(์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์šด๋‹ค)
01:50
Woman: Why not start with your name?
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: ์„ฑํ•จ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—ฌ์ญค๋ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
01:52
I'm Pam. What can I call you?
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์ €๋Š” 'ํŒธ'์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ฑํ•จ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์‹œ์ฃ ?
01:57
Where are you speaking from?
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋””์„ธ์š”?
02:00
Are you safe?
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์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
02:02
Girl: It's a phone box in London.
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์†Œ๋…€: ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™”์š”.
02:05
Pam: You sound very young. How old are you?
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ํŒธ: ์–ด๋ฆฌ์‹  ๋ถ„ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์‹œ์ฃ ?
02:08
Girl: Fourteen.
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์†Œ๋…€: 14์‚ด์ด์š”.
02:10
Pam: And what's happened to make you so upset?
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ํŒธ: ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์†์ƒํ•˜์„ธ์š”?
02:13
Girl: I just want to die. Every day I wake up and wish I was dead.
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์†Œ๋…€: ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฃฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”.
๋งค์ผ ๋ˆˆ ๋œจ๋ฉด, ์ฐจ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ์ฃฝ์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•ด์š”.
02:17
If he doesn't kill me, then, I think, I want to do it myself.
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๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ ์ฃฝ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„, ์ž์‚ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”.
02:21
Pam: I'm glad you called.
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ํŒธ: ์ „ํ™” ์ž˜ ํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”.
02:24
Let's start at the beginning.
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์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
02:28
Sophie Andrews: Pam continued to gently ask the girl about herself.
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์†Œํ”ผ ์•ค๋“œ๋ฅ˜์Šค(SA): ํŒธ์€ ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
She didn't say much; there were lots of silences.
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์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์—†์–ด์„œ ์ž์ฃผ ์นจ๋ฌต์ด ํ˜๋ €์–ด์š”.
02:35
But she knew she was there,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์†Œ๋…€๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ ๋„ˆ๋จธ์— ํŒธ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
02:36
and having Pam on the end of the phone felt so comforting.
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์•ˆ๋„๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
The 14-year-old that made that call was me.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑด 14์‚ด ์†Œ๋…€์˜€์–ด์š”.
02:46
That was me in the phone box.
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๊ทธ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™” ๋ฐ•์Šค ์•ˆ์˜ ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ €์˜€์ฃ .
02:48
I was running away from home, sleeping rough on the streets in London.
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์ €๋Š” ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋„๋ง์ณ ๋Ÿฐ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ „์ „ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:53
I was being sexually abused by my father and his friends.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์  ํ•™๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋‹นํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
02:57
I was self-harming every day. I was suicidal.
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๋งค์ผ ์žํ•ด๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ž์‚ด์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:03
The first time I called Samaritans, I was 12 and absolutely desperate.
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์ฒ˜์Œ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์— ์ „ํ™”ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” 12์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๊ณ , ์•„์ฃผ ์ ˆ๋ฐ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:08
It was a few months after my mother had deserted me,
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์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋•Œ์˜€์ฃ .
03:11
walked out and left me in the family home.
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์ €๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ฒ„๋ ค๋‘๊ณ  ์ง‘์„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
03:14
And the abuse I was suffering at the hands of my father and his friends
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๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์ „ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•™๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋‹นํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:17
had left me a total wreck.
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๋งŒ์‹ ์ฐฝ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋ผ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
I was running away, I was missing school,
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๊ฐ€์ถœํ•ด์„œ ํ•™๊ต๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ 
03:22
I was arriving drunk.
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์ˆ ์— ์ทจํ•ด ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
I was without hope and wanted to die.
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ํฌ๋ง๋„ ์—†๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฃฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:28
And that's where Samaritans came in.
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๊ทธ๋•Œ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์ฃ .
03:33
Samaritans has been around since 1953.
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1953๋…„์— ์„ค๋ฆฝ๋œ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์€
03:36
It's a 24/7 confidential helpline in the UK
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์˜๊ตญ์˜ 24์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ „ํ™”์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ๋กœ์„œ
03:40
for anyone who might be feeling desperate or suicidal.
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์šฐ์šธ์ฆ๊ณผ ์ž์‚ด ์ถฉ๋™์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ณ ๋ฏผ์„ ์ƒ๋‹ดํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
Which I certainly was.
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์ €๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ด์ฃ .
03:46
Volunteers answer the phone around the clock every day of the year,
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์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋งค์ผ ๋ฐค๋‚ฎ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ 
03:49
and calls are confidential.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:53
During my teenage years, when I was most desperate,
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ ˆ๋ฐ•ํ–ˆ๋˜ 10๋Œ€ ์‹œ์ ˆ์—
03:55
Samaritans became my lifeline.
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'์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๋ช…์ค„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”.
03:58
They promised me total confidentiality.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋น„๋ฐ€ ์œ ์ง€๋ฅผ ์•ฝ์†ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
04:01
And that allowed me to trust them.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:04
Disturbing as they no doubt found my story, they never showed it.
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์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๋ฒ• ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์—ˆ์„ ํ…๋ฐ๋„ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‚ด์ƒ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
04:08
They were always there for me and listened without judgment.
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ํŽธ๊ฒฌ ์—†์ด ์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:12
Mostly, they gently encouraged me to get help;
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๋„์›€ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ถŒํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:14
I never felt out of control with them --
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๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ†ตํ™”ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ธ ๋“ฏํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
04:17
an interesting parallel,
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์‹ ๊ธฐํ•œ ํ‰ํ–‰์„  ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ถ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:18
as I felt so out of control in every other aspect of my life.
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์ œ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ†ต์ œ ๋ถˆ๋Šฅ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:22
It felt my self-harm was probably the only area
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์žํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์ œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
04:24
where I felt I had any control.
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์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
04:29
A few years later, I managed to get some control in my life.
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๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜์„œ, ์ด์ œ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ถ์„ ๊พธ๋ ค๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:33
And I had appropriate support around me
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์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์…จ๊ณ 
04:35
to allow me to live with what had happened.
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๋”›๊ณ  ์ผ์–ด์„ค ํž˜์„ ์–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:38
I had become a survivor of abuse rather than a victim.
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์ €๋Š” ํ•™๋Œ€์˜ ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ์ƒ์กด์ž๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
And at 21, I contacted Samaritans again.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  21์‚ด์ด ๋์„ ๋•Œ, ๋‹ค์‹œ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์„ ์ฐพ์•˜์–ด์š”.
04:45
This time because I wanted to become a volunteer.
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์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:48
Wanted to pay something back
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์ œ ์‚ถ์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์ค€ ๋‹จ์ฒด์—
04:49
to the organization that had really saved my life.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋ณด๋‹ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:54
I knew that the simple act of listening in an empathetic way
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์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ํ–‰์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š”
04:58
could have a profound effect.
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์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ํž˜์„ ์ €๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
05:00
I knew that somebody listening to me without judgment
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์—†์ด ๋‚ด ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ
05:04
would make the biggest difference.
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ํฐ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
05:07
So I caught up with my education,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋…”๊ณ 
05:10
found someone I could persuade to give me a job,
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๊ฐ„์ฒญ ๋์— ๊ฒจ์šฐ ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ตฌํ–ˆ๊ณ 
05:14
and I enjoyed my volunteering at Samaritans.
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'์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ๋ด‰์‚ฌํ™œ๋™๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:17
And when I say "enjoyed," it's an odd word to use,
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"์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ"๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์ด ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
05:20
because no one would want to think of anyone
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๊ทน์‹ฌํ•œ ๊ณ ํ†ต๊ณผ ๊ดด๋กœ์›€์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
05:22
being in absolute distress or pain.
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์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์ผ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ .
05:25
But I knew that that profound impact of that listening ear
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š”, ํž˜๋“ค ๋•Œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์˜†์—์„œ
05:27
and someone being alongside me at that desperate time
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๊ทธ ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
05:31
had the biggest impact,
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ํฐ ํž˜์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:32
and I felt a great sense of fulfillment
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'์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์˜ ์ผ์›์œผ๋กœ์„œ
05:34
that I was able to help people as a Samaritan.
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๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ํฐ ๋ณด๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:38
In my years volunteering at Samaritans, I was asked to perform many roles.
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์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋ด‰์‚ฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:42
But I guess the peak came in 2008,
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2008๋…„์ด ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
05:45
when I was asked to chair the organization for three years.
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3๋…„๊ฐ„ ๋‹จ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ฑ…์ž„์ ธ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์ œ์˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
05:48
So I had actually gone from that vulnerable caller
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'์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์˜ ๋„์›€์ด ๊ฐ„์ ˆํžˆ ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋˜
05:50
in the phone box, desperate for help,
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์ ˆ๋ง์— ๋น ์ ธ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™” ๋ฐ•์Šค ์•ˆ์˜ ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€
05:52
to being the national lead for the organization
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22,000๋ช…์˜ ์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ฑ…์ž„์ง€๋Š” ๋‹จ์ฒด์˜
05:55
and responsible for 22,000 volunteers.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†’์€ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์•‰๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
05:59
I actually used to joke at the time
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๊ทธ๋• ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋†๋‹ด์„ ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:00
and say if you really screwed up as a caller,
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์•„์ฃผ ์ ˆ๋ฐ•ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์ „ํ™”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ›„์— ์ด ๋‹จ์ฒด์˜ ์ฑ…์ž„์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
06:02
you might end up running the place.
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
06:04
(Laughter)
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06:05
Which I did.
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์ €์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
06:06
But I guess in a world which is dominated by professionalizing everything we do,
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์ผ์ƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ „๋ฌธํ™”๋˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
06:12
I really understood that that simple act of listening
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๊ฒฝ์ฒญ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ด ์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ํ–‰์œ„๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š”
06:14
could have such a life-changing effect.
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ํž˜์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ €๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:17
I guess it's a simple concept
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์ด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์ด์น˜๊ฐ€ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
06:19
that can be applied across all areas of life.
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06:22
So in the 1980s, when I called Samaritans,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์„ ์ฐพ์•˜๋˜ 1980๋…„๋Œ€์—”
06:24
child abuse was a subject no one wanted to talk about.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์•„๋™ํ•™๋Œ€๋ž€ ๋ง์„ ์ž…์— ๋‹ด์œผ๋ ค ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:28
Victims were often blamed, victims were often judged.
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ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๋“ค์€ ์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๋น„๋‚œ๋ฐ›๊ณ , ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์— ์‹œ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
06:33
And it was a topic of shame, and no one really wanted to talk about it.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ์ž…์— ๋‹ด๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์›์น˜ ์•Š๋Š” ์ˆ˜์น˜์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์กŒ์—ˆ์ฃ .
06:38
Today, judgment and shame surround a different issue.
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ , ํŽธ๊ฒฌ๊ณผ ์ˆ˜์น˜์˜ ๋Œ€์ƒ์ด ๋œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
There's a different stigma that's out there.
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์š”์ฆ˜ ๋งŒ์—ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๋‚™์ธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ,
06:44
And the stigma that's there today is to talk about loneliness.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ณ ๋…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–˜๊ธฐ์ฃ .
06:50
Loneliness and isolation have profound health impacts.
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๊ณ ๋…๊ณผ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ์€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
Being lonely can have a significant impact on your own well-being.
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๊ณ ๋…์€ ์‚ถ์˜ ์งˆ์—๋„ ์•„์ฃผ ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ฃ .
06:58
Recent systematic review of research
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์ตœ๊ทผ์˜ ์ฒด๊ณ„์ ์ธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์— ์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด
07:00
actually said that it increased the mortality rates,
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์งˆ๋ณ‘๋ฅ  ๋˜๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ๋ง๋ฅ ์ด 30%๊นŒ์ง€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:02
or premature death rates,
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07:04
by up to 30 percent.
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07:06
It can lead to higher blood pressure, higher levels of depression,
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๊ณ ํ˜ˆ์••์ด๋‚˜ ์šฐ์šธ์ฆ๋„ ์‹ฌํ•ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:10
and actually aligned to mortality rates
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์ด๋Š” ์•Œ์ฝœ ์ค‘๋…์ด๋‚˜ ํก์—ฐ์— ์˜ํ•œ
07:12
that might be more associated with alcohol abuse or smoking cigarettes.
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์‚ฌ๋ง๋ฅ ์— ํ•„์ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด์ฃ .
07:17
Loneliness is actually more harmful that smoking 15 cigarettes.
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๊ณ ๋…์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ 15๊ฐœ๋น„๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ชธ์— ํ•ด๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
A day.
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ํ•˜๋ฃจ์—์š”.
07:23
Not in your life, in your day.
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ํ‰์ƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ํก์—ฐ๋Ÿ‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:25
It's also associated with higher levels of dementia.
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์น˜๋งค์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ํ™•๋ฅ ๋„ ๋†’์•„์ง„๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:28
So a recent study also found
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์ตœ๊ทผ ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
07:30
that lonely people are twice at risk of Alzheimer's disease.
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๊ณ ๋…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•Œ์ธ ํ•˜์ด๋จธ์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ํ™•๋ฅ ์€ 2๋ฐฐ๋‚˜ ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:35
Of course, there's many people that live alone who are not lonely.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์™ธ๋กญ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ฃ .
07:40
But being a caregiver for a partner that maybe has dementia
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์น˜๋งค ์ฆ์ƒ์„ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
07:44
can be a very lonely place.
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๊ณ ๋…๊ณผ์˜ ์‹ธ์›€์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ .
07:47
And a recent landmark study gave us a very good, clear definition
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์ตœ๊ทผ์˜ ํ•œ ํš๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์—์„œ ๊ณ ๋…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์ •์˜๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:50
of what loneliness is.
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07:51
And it said it's a subjective, unwelcome feeling
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์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ต์ œ์˜ ๊ฒฐํ• ๋˜๋Š” ์ƒ์‹ค์—์„œ ์•ผ๊ธฐ๋˜๋Š”
07:55
of a lack or loss of companionship.
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์ฃผ๊ด€์ ์ด๊ณ , ๋‹ฌ๊ฐ‘์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
07:58
And it happens when there's a mismatch
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์ธ๊ฐ„๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ์งˆ๊ณผ ์–‘์— ์žˆ์–ด
08:00
between the quality and the quantity of relationships that we have
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์ด์ƒ๊ณผ ํ˜„์‹ค์ด ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ผ ๋•Œ ๊ณ ๋…๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:03
and those that we want.
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08:07
Now in my life, the best help I've ever received
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์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€
08:09
has been from those personal connections
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์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์ค€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜
08:11
and being listened to in an empathetic way.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ต๊ฐ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:15
Professionals, and I'm conscious I'm speaking to a room of professionals,
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์ด ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ณ„์‹ค ํ…๋ฐ์š”.
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์—ญํ• ๋„ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
have a very important place.
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08:20
But for me, a volunteer giving up their time
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์ ์ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ• ์• ํ•ด
08:23
and listening to me without judgment in a confidential way,
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ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์—†์ด ๋“ค์–ด ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ์ง€์ผœ์ค€
08:27
had such a huge, life-changing effect for me.
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ํ•œ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž์˜ ํž˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
And that was something that really stayed with me.
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๋งˆ์Œ ์†์— ๋‚จ์•„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํž˜์ด ๋ผ์คฌ์ฃ .
08:33
So as you will have gathered, in my teenage years,
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๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€๋กœ, ์ €๋Š” ์‹ญ๋Œ€ ๋•Œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐฉํ™ฉ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
08:35
I was off the rails, I was going every day wondering if I'd even live the next day.
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๋‚ด์ผ์€ ๊ณผ์—ฐ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ์„๊นŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋‚ ๋งˆ๋‹ค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:39
But that profound impact of the volunteer listening to me stayed with me.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ค€ ๊ทธ ์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒ ํฐ ํž˜์ด ๋์–ด์š”.
08:44
When I finally got to a point in my life
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์ด์ œ ์•„ํ”ˆ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋”›๊ณ  ์ผ์–ด์„œ
08:46
where I felt I could live with what had happened,
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์‚ด์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ผˆ์„ ๋•Œ
08:49
I wanted to pay something back.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‹ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:51
And in my experience,
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์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋น„์ถ”์–ด
08:53
people who have been helped in a transforming way
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์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ •๋„์˜ ๋„์›€์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
08:56
always want to pay something back.
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๋Š˜ ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด๋‹ต์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
So I started paying back by my 25 years volunteering with Samaritans.
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์ €๋„ 25๋…„๊ฐ„ '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์—์„œ ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋ณด๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:05
And then, in 2013,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2013๋…„์—
09:07
picking up on that whole issue and the new stigma of loneliness,
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๊ณ ๋…์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๋‚™์ธ์˜ ์‹ฌ๊ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ณ 
09:10
I launched a new national helpline in the UK for older people,
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์˜๊ตญ ์ „์ฒด์— ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ „ํ™”์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„คํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
called The Silver Line,
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์ด๋ผ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
09:15
which is there to support lonely and isolated older people.
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์™ธ๋กญ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋œ ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค์„ ๋•๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์ฃ .
09:20
In our short history, we've taken 1.5 million calls.
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์–ผ๋งˆ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ๋„ ์ „ํ™”๊ฐ€ 150๋งŒ ํ†ต์ด๋‚˜ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:24
And I know we're having a big impact, based on the feedback we get every day.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ๋งค์ผ ์ ‘ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ํž˜์„ ์‹ค๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:29
Some people might be calling up for a friendly chat,
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
09:32
maybe some information about local services.
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์ง€์—ญ ์ •๋ณด์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
Some might be calling because they're suicidal.
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์ž์‚ด ์ถฉ๋™์„ ๋Š๊ปด์„œ ์ „ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
09:37
Some might be calling up because they're reporting abuse.
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๋˜๋Š” ํ•™๋Œ€ ์‹ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์ „ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
And some quite simply, as I was, may have simply just given up on life.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋“ฏ์ด, ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:46
I guess it's a really simple idea, setting up a helpline.
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์•„์ฃผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๋ฐœ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™”์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ๋Š” ์‹œ์ž‘๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
And I look back to those early days
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ํ˜„ ์ง์ฑ…์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ
09:51
when I had the lofty title, I still have, of chief exec, but in the early days,
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์ตœ๊ณ  ์ฑ…์ž„์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฐฝํ•œ ์งํ•จ์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์ด์ผœ ๋ณด๋ฉด
09:55
I was chief exec of myself.
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๋‹น์‹œ์—” ์ œ ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ ์ฑ…์ž„์ง€๋ฉด ๋์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:56
Which, I have to say, I had the best meetings ever in my career --
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์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๋•Œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํšŒ์˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”.
10:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
์ €๋งŒ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ฑ…์ž„์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
10:01
as chief exec of myself.
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10:02
But things have moved on, and now in 2017,
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๊ทธ๋™์•ˆ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ง€๊ธˆ 2017๋…„์—๋Š”
10:06
we have over 200 staff listening to older people
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200๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ๋…ธ์ธ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋ฉฐ
10:10
every day of the year, 24/7.
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์ผ๋…„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋„ ์‰ฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
We also have over 3,000 volunteers making weekly friendship calls
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๋˜, 3,000๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์€
๊ฐ์ž์˜ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ํ•œ๋ฒˆ์”ฉ ๋…ธ์ธ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์•ˆ๋ถ€ ์ „ํ™”๋„ ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:16
from their own home.
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10:18
We also, for people that like the written word,
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๊ธ€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒ '์‹ค๋ฒ„ ์†Œ์‹์ง€'๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ 
10:20
offer Silver Letters, and we write pen-pal letters
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์•„์ง ์šฐํŽธ๋ฌผ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ณผ๋Š” ํŽœํŒ”์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:23
to older people who still enjoy receiving a letter.
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10:27
And we also have introduced something called Silver Circles --
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„ ์„œํด'์ด๋ž€ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
"์‹ค๋ฒ„"๋ž€ ๋ง์„ ์•„์ฃผ ๋งŽ์ด ์“ฐ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:30
you notice I'm owning the word "silver" here --
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์•ž์— "์‹ค๋ฒ„"๊ฐ€ ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋‹ค ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:32
put "silver" in front of it and it's ours.
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„ ์„œํด'์—์„  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ช…์ด ์ „ํ™”๋กœ
10:34
Silver Circles are group conference calls
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๊ณตํ†ต์ ์ธ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ .
10:36
where people actually talk about shared interests.
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10:39
My favorite group is the music group,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์•… ๋ชจ์ž„์—์„œ๋Š”
10:40
where people, every week, play musical instruments
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๋งค์ฃผ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์•…๊ธฐ ์—ฐ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ ค์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
down the phone to each other.
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10:45
Not always the same tune at the same time.
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์Œ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งž์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
10:47
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:48
But they do have fun.
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๊ทธ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›Œํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
10:51
And "fun" is an interesting word,
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"์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€"์ด๋ž€ ๋ง์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด๋ฐ์š”.
10:52
because I've talked very much about desperation, loneliness and isolation.
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์ด์ œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ณ„์† ์ ˆ๋ง, ๊ณ ๋…, ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ .
10:56
But if you came to our helpline in the UK, you would also hear laughter.
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์˜๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ์— ์˜ค์‹œ๋ฉด ์›ƒ์Œ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์œผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:00
Because at the Silver Line,
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋“ค์€
11:01
we do want to cherish the wonderful lives of older people
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๋…ธ์ธ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ๊ทผ์‚ฌํ•œ ์‚ถ๊ณผ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๋“ค์„
11:05
and all the experiences that they bring.
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์†Œ์ค‘ํžˆ ๊ฐ„์งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
So here's an example, just a snippet of one of our calls.
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์ž, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์ด์—์š”.
11:11
(Audio) Good morning, you're through to the Silver Line.
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(์Œ์„ฑ) ์ข‹์€ ์•„์นจ์ด์—์š”, '์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ '์•Œ๋Ÿฐ'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”?
11:14
My name's Alan, how can I help?
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์•Œ๋Ÿฐ. ์ข‹์€ ์•„์นจ์ด์—์š”.
11:16
Woman: Hello, Alan. Good morning.
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11:17
Alan: Hello.
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์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ์„ฑ: (์พŒํ™œํ•˜๊ฒŒ) ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”!
11:18
Woman: (Chipper) Hello!
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์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€ ์–ด๋– ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
11:20
Alan: Oh, how are you this morning?
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11:21
Woman: I'm alright, thank you.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”.
์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:23
Alan: I'm pleased to hear it.
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11:24
Woman: What a wonderful thing the telephone is, you know?
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: ์ „ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์€์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”, ๊ทธ์ตธ?
11:28
Alan: It's a remarkable invention, isn't it?
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์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋ฐœ๋ช…์ด์ฃ .
์—ฌ์„ฑ: ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆด ์ ์—๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
11:30
Woman: I remember when I was a little girl,
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11:32
donkey's years ago,
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์•„์ฃผ ์˜ค๋ž˜์ „์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
11:33
if you wanted to make a phone call to somebody,
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์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด
11:36
you had to go to a shop
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๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ
11:39
and use the telephone of the shop
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ ค ์จ์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
11:41
and pay the shop for using the telephone and have your phone call.
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๋จผ์ € ๋ˆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:45
So you didn't make phone calls just whenever you fancied.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๋•Œ ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ์•„, ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‚˜์š”.
11:48
Alan: Oh, no.
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11:49
Woman: (Coughs) Oh, sorry.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ: (๊ธฐ์นจ) ๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ด์š”.
11:51
(Coughs)
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(๊ธฐ์นจ)
11:52
Excuse me about that.
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์ฃ„์†กํ•ด์š”.
11:53
You had to, you know,
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๊ทธ๋• ๊ผญ ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งŒ
11:55
confine your phone calls to the absolute essentials.
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์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ์จ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:59
And now, here I am, sitting in my own home in my dressing gown still,
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ง‘์—์„œ ํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž ์˜ท ์ฐจ๋ฆผ์œผ๋กœ
12:04
and using the telephone, isn't it wonderful?
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์ „ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์•„์š”?
12:07
Alan: It is. (Laughter)
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์•Œ๋Ÿฐ: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋„ค์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
12:10
SA: And that's not untypical of a call we might receive at our helpline.
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SA: ์ €ํฌ ์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ์—์„  ํ”ํ•œ ์ „ํ™” ๋Œ€ํ™” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
That's someone who really sees us as part of the family.
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์ €ํฌ๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ„์ด์ฃ .
12:17
So Silver Line, I guess, are now helping older people
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, '์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค'์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
12:20
in the same way that Samaritans has helped me.
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์€ ๋…ธ์ธ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ๋„์™€ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
They're there 24/7, they're listening confidentially
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์‰ฌ๋Š” ๋‚  ์—†์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ฃผ๊ณ , ๋น„๋ฐ€๋„ ๋ณด์žฅํ•ด ์ฃผ๋ฉฐ
12:25
and quite often not giving any advice.
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์›ฌ๋งŒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ถฉ๊ณ ๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
12:27
How often do we really ever listen without giving advice?
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ํ‰์†Œ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ถฉ๊ณ  ์—†์ด ๋‚จ์˜ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
12:31
It's actually quite hard.
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์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
Quite often on the phone calls, an older person would say,
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์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋…ธ์ธ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
12:35
"Could you give me some advice, please?"
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"์ถฉ๊ณ  ์ข€ ๋ถ€ํƒํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”?"
12:37
And 20 minutes later, they say, "Thank you for your advice,"
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , 20๋ถ„ ์ •๋„ ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด, "์ถฉ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹œ์ฃ .
12:40
and we realize we haven't given any.
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์‹ค์€ ์•„๋ฌด ์ถฉ๊ณ ๋„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋ฐ๋„์š”.
12:42
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
12:43
We've listened and listened, and we haven't interrupted.
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ๋˜ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:45
But to that person, maybe we have given advice.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ถฉ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋“ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
12:48
We recently conducted a survey at The Silver Line
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์ตœ๊ทผ '์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋Š”
12:50
to 3,000 older people, to ask them what they thought of the service.
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๋…ธ์ธ 3,000๋ช…์„ ๋Œ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ฌธ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
And one person quite simply came back and said,
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ถ„์€ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹ต๋ณ€ํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”.
12:56
for the first time in her life,
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์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
12:59
she had what we would call in the sport cricket a wicketkeeper,
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์ผ“์˜ ์œ„ํ‚ท ํ‚คํผ(wicket keeper)๋ฅผ ์–ป์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์ฃ .
13:03
and what you would call in baseball, a catcher.
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์•ผ๊ตฌ์˜ ํฌ์ˆ˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์—ญํ• ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:06
I've been here 48 hours, and I'm talking American.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜จ ์ง€ 48์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋งŒ์— ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๋ฌผ์ด ๋‹ค ๋“ค์—ˆ๋„ค์š”.
๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋ชป ์•Œ์•„๋ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
13:09
They will not recognize me when I get home.
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13:11
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
13:12
But for the first time in her life, she had that catcher,
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๊ทธ๋ถ„์€ ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ํฌ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ
13:15
which is really, really important.
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์ •๋ง ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—์š”.
13:17
And now it's come full circle, because actually,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Œ๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ํฌ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
13:20
people that are calling Silver Line and needing a catcher
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'์‹ค๋ฒ„๋ผ์ธ'์— ์ „ํ™”ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด
13:22
are now becoming catchers themselves by putting something back
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์ด์   ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด๋‹ต์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ž์›๋ด‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
13:25
and becoming volunteers and becoming part of our family.
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์ €ํฌ ์ƒ๋‹ด์†Œ์˜ ํ•œ ์‹๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ํฌ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
13:29
So I end my talk, really, where I started, talking about my own personal experience.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์ œ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ๋งˆ์น ๊นŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:34
Because when I talk about my life, I often say that I've been lucky.
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์ œ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•  ๋•, ์ €๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:37
And people generally ask me why.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋ฌป์ฃ .
13:40
And it's because, at every stage of my life,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์šด ์ข‹๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋งˆ๋‹ค
13:42
I have been lucky enough to have someone alongside me at the right time
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์ œ ๊ณ์„ ์ง€์ผœ์ฃผ๊ณ , ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค€
13:47
who maybe has believed in me,
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์šด ๋ถ„ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
13:48
which in turn has helped me
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
13:50
just to believe a little bit more in myself, which has been so important.
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๋ฏฟ์Œ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€ ์•„์ฃผ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:55
And everyone needs a catcher at some point in their lives.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ผ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ํฌ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:58
This is my catcher.
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์ด ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ํฌ์ˆ˜,
14:00
So that's Pam.
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'ํŒธ'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:02
And she answered the call to me
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30๋…„ ์ „, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™” ๋ฐ•์Šค ์•ˆ์˜
14:03
when I was that 14-year-old in the phone box, over 30 years ago.
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14์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋˜ ์€์ธ์ด์ฃ .
14:08
So never, ever underestimate the power of a simple human connection.
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์ผ์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ธ๊ฐ„ ๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ํž˜์„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ณผ์†Œํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•ด์„  ์•ˆ ๋ผ์š”.
14:14
Because it can be and so often is the power to save a life.
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๊ทธ ํž˜์€ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ƒ๋ช…์„ ๊ตฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:18
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:19
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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