Anna Deavere Smith: Four American characters

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Kim hayeon ๊ฒ€ํ† : Kim So Hyun
00:25
So my grandfather told me when I was a little girl,
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์ œ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ์ ์— ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์ฃ .
00:27
"If you say a word often enough, it becomes you."
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๋ผ๊ณ  ์ œ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„์  ๋งํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”
00:30
And having grown up in a segregated city, Baltimore, Maryland,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋™๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋„์‹œ, ๋ฉ”๋ฆด๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ๋ฐœํ‹ฐ๋ชจ์–ด์—์„œ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
00:33
I sort of use that idea to go around America with a tape recorder --
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์ €๋Š” ํ…Œ์ž… ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:36
thank God for technology --
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ์˜ ๋ฐœ์ „์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ด ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
00:38
to interview people, thinking that if I walked in their words --
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ง ์†์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑธ์–ด๋‹ค๋‹Œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:41
which is also why I don't wear shoes when I perform --
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋‚˜๊ฐˆ๋•Œ ์‹ ๋ฐœ์„ ์‹ ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
00:43
if I walked in their words, that I could sort of absorb America.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ง ์†์—์„œ ๊ฑท๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ํก์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ์ข…์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
00:47
I was also inspired by Walt Whitman,
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ €๋Š” Walt Whitman์— ์˜ํ•ด ์˜๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ ,
00:48
who wanted to absorb America and have it absorb him.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ํก์ˆ˜์‹œํ‚ค๊ธธ ์›ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํก์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:51
So these four characters are going to be from that work
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋„ค๊ฐœ์˜ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์ž‘์—…์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:55
that I've been doing for many years now,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ์ž‘์—… ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:56
and well over, I don't know, a couple of thousand people
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Œ, ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์ˆ˜์ฒœ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
00:59
I've interviewed.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:00
Anybody out here old enough to know Studs Terkel, that old radio man?
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์ด๊ณณ์— ๋‚˜์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์ค‘ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ์ง„ํ–‰์ž Studs Terkel ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹ค๋งŒํผ ์—ฐ์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ์‹  ๋ถ„์ด ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:05
So I thought he would be the perfect person
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:07
to go to to ask about a defining moment in American history.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋…”๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์ฃ .
01:11
You know, he was "born in 1912, the year the Titanic sank,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋Š” "ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰์ด ๊ฐ€๋ผ์•‰์•˜๋˜ ๋•Œ์ธ 1912๋…„์— ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
01:15
greatest ship every built. Hits the tip of an iceberg,
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ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰์€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฐฐ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น™์‚ฐ์˜ ๋์— ๋ถ€๋”ชํ˜”๊ณ 
01:18
and bam, it went down. It went down and I came up. Wow, some century."
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ํญํŒŒํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋ผ์•‰์•˜์ฃ . ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฐ€๋ผ์•‰์•˜๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ž์–ด์š”. ์™€, ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‹œ๋Œ€ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”.
01:26
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:28
So this is his answer about a defining moment in American history.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฑด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋‹ต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
"Defining moment in American history, I don't think there's one;
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์—์„œ์˜ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
01:37
you can't say Hiroshima, that's a big one --
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ํžˆ๋กœ์‹œ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด์ฃ .
01:39
I can't think of any one moment I would say is a defining moment.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ณง ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”.
01:42
The gradual slippage -- 'slippage' is the word
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๊ทธ ์ ์ง„์ ์ธ ํ•˜๋ฝ -- ํ•˜๋ฝ์ด๋ž€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š”
01:45
used by the people in Watergate, moral slippage --
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์›Œํ„ฐ๊ฒŒ์ดํŠธ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด๋•Œ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋„๋•์ ์ธํ•˜๋ฝ์ด์ฃ --
01:48
it's a gradual kind of thing, combination of things.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ ์ง„์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์˜ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด์ฃ .
01:50
You see, we also have the technology.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
01:53
I say, less and less the human touch.
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์ €๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์„ ๋œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
"Oh, let me kind of tell you a funny little play bit.
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์˜ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ๋งŒ ๋งํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆด๊ป˜์š”.
01:59
The Atlanta airport is a modern airport,
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์•„ํ‹€๋ž€ํƒ€ ๊ณตํ•ญ์€ ํ˜„๋Œ€์ ์ธ ๊ณตํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:01
and they should leave the gate there.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
These trains that take you out to a concourse and on to a destination.
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์ด ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์ค‘์•™ํ™€ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ข…์ฐฉ์ง€๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋‹ค ์ค„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
And these trains are smooth,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋“ค์€ ์ˆœ์กฐ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๊ณ 
02:09
and they're quiet and they're efficient.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์กฐ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ํšจ์œจ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
And there's a voice on the train, you know the voice was a human voice.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ฐจ์—๋Š” ํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:16
You see in the old days we had robots, robots imitated humans.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋‚  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ชจ๋ฐฉํ•œ ๋กœ๋ด‡๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:21
Now we have humans imitating robots.
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์ด์ œ, ์ธ๊ฐ„์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ๋ฐฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
02:26
So we got this voice on this train: Concourse One: Omaha, Lincoln.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๊ธฐ์ฐจ์— ์ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฝ์ž…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค: ์ค‘์•™ํ™€ 1: Omaha, Lincoln.
02:32
Concourse Two: Dallas, Fort Worth. Same voice.
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์ค‘์•™ํ™€ 2: Dallas, Fort Worth. ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ์š”.
02:35
Just as a train is about to go, a young couple rush in
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๊ธฐ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ๋ง‰ ๋– ๋‚˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ, ํ•œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์ปคํ”Œ์ด ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
and they're just about to close the pneumatic doors.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ง‰ ๊ณต์••์˜ ๋ฌธ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ซ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
And that voice, without losing a beat, says,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋น„ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ทธ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งํ•˜์ฃ .
02:46
'Because of late entry, we're delayed 30 seconds.'
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"๋Šฆ์€ ์ž…์žฅ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋Š” 30์ดˆ ์ง€์—ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
02:49
Just then, everybody's looking at this couple with hateful eyes
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๋งˆ์นจ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด ์ปคํ”Œ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ํ™”๋‚œ ๋ˆˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:54
and the couple's going like this, you know, shrinking.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ปคํ”Œ๋“ค์€ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ, ๋–จ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
Well, I'd happened to have had a couple of drinks before boarding --
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์Šน์ฐจ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ช‡ ์ž”์˜ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์…จ์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:59
I do that to steel my nerves -- and so
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”. -- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
03:02
I imitate a train call, holding my hand on my --
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์ €๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ฐจ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ‰๋‚ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”. ์ œ ์†์„ ์žก์€ ์ฑ„๋กœ์š”.
03:05
'George Orwell, your time has come,' you see.
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"์กฐ์ง€ ์˜ค์›ฐ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์™”์–ด์š”."
03:09
Well, some of you are laughing. Everybody laughs
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ๋ช‡๋ช…์€ ์›ƒ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
03:11
when I say that, but not on this train. Silence.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์›ƒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๊ธฐ์ฐจ์—์„  ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ . ์นจ๋ฌต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:15
And so suddenly they're looking at me.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฃ .
03:16
So here I am with the couple, the three of us
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ปคํ”Œ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์…‹์€
03:19
shrinking at the foot of Calvary about to be up, you know.
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๋ง‰ ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ฆด ์‹ญ์ž๊ฐ€์˜ ๋„ํŠธ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋–จ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
03:23
"Just then I see a baby, a little baby in the lap of a mother.
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋งˆ์นจ, ์ €๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ ํฌ๋Œ€๊ธฐ๋กœ ์•ˆ๊ฒจ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ์ž‘์€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
I know it's Hispanic because she's speaking Spanish to her companion.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ผํ–‰์—๊ฒŒ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํžˆ์ŠคํŽ˜๋‹‰๊ณ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:35
So I'm going to talk to the baby. So I say to the baby,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•„๊ธฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:38
holding my hand over my mouth because my breath must be 100 proof,
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์ œ ํ˜ธํก์ด 100 proof ์ผ๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ œ ์†์œผ๋กœ ์ œ ์ž…์„ ์žก๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
03:42
I say to the baby, 'Sir or Madam,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•„๊ธฐ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, "์‹ ์‚ฌ, ์•„๋‹˜ ์•„๊ฐ€์”จ,
03:46
what is your considered opinion of the human species?'
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์ธ๊ฐ„ ์ข… ์ค‘์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ์˜๊ฒฌ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
03:51
And the baby looks, you know, the way babies look at you clearly,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์•„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ๋˜‘๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:53
starts laughing,
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์›ƒ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:54
starts busting out with this crazy little laugh.
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์ด ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ž‘์€ ์›ƒ์Œ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์›ƒ์Œ์ด ํ„ฐ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
I say, 'Thank God for a human reaction, we haven't lost yet.'
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์ €๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, "์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฐ˜์‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์•„์ง ์žƒ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”."
04:01
"But you see, the human touch, you see, it's disappearing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด๋“ฏ์ด, ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์€, ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
04:03
You know, you see, you've got to question the official truth.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•Œ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค์— ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”์–ด์š”.
04:06
You know the thing that was so great about Mark Twain --
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋งˆํฌ ํŠธ์›จ์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
you know we honor Mark Twain, but we don't read him.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆํฌ ํŠธ์›จ์ธ์„ ์กด๊ฒฝํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์˜ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
04:13
We read 'Huck Finn,' of course, we read 'Huck Finn' of course.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  Huck Finn์„ ์ฝ์–ด์š”.
04:16
I mean, Huck, of course, was tremendous.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  Huck์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
04:18
Remember that great scene on the raft, remember what Huck did?
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๋•Ÿ๋ชฉ ์œ„์— ์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. Huck์ด ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
04:21
You see, here's Huck; he's an illiterate kid; he's had no schooling,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ Huck์ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๋งน์˜ ์•„์ด์˜ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
04:24
but there's something in him.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ์•ˆ์—๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
04:26
And the official truth, the truth was, the law was,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค์€, ๊ทธ ์ง„์‹ค์€, ๊ทธ ๋ฒ•์€,
04:29
that a black man was a property, was a thing, you see.
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ํ‘์ธ์€ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ .
04:32
And Huck gets on the raft with a property named Jim, a slave, see.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Huck์€ Jim์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ๋…ธ์˜ˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋—๋ชฉ์— ํƒ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
And he hears that Jim is going to go and take his wife and kids
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” Jim์ด ๋– ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด์™€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:40
and steal them from the woman who owns them,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์†Œ์œ ํ•œ ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋นผ์•—์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋„์š”.
04:42
and Huck says, 'Ooh, oh my God, ooh, ooh --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Huck์€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค," ์˜ค, ์‹ ์ด์—ฌ. ์˜ค, ์˜ค--
04:46
that woman, that woman never did anybody any harm.
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๊ทธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€, ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:49
Ooh, he's going to steal; he's going to steal;
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์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ›”์น  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ›”์น  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
04:50
he's going to do a terrible thing.'
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
04:52
Just then, two slavers caught up, guys chasing slaves, looking for Jim.
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๊ทธ ๋•Œ, ์ง์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๋‘ ๋…ธ์˜ˆ์ƒ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋”ฐ๋ผ๋ถ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋…ธ์˜ˆ๋“ค์„ ์ซ“์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
04:57
'Anybody up on that raft with you?' Huck says, 'Yeah.'
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"๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋—๋ชฉ์— ํƒ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?" Huck์€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, "๋„ค"
05:06
'Is he black or white?' 'White.' And they go off.
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"๊ทธ๋Š” ํ‘์ธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ๋ฐฑ์ธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?" "๋ฐฑ์ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
05:13
And Huck said, 'Oh my God, oh my God, I lied, I lied, ooh,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Huck๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, "์˜ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ, ์˜ค ์ด๋Ÿฐ, ๋‚œ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ๋‚œ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ์˜ค,
05:17
I did a terrible thing, did a terrible thing -- why do I feel so good?'
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์ผ์„-- ์™œ ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์€๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
05:22
"But it's the goodness of Huck, that stuff that Huck's been made of,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด Huck์˜ ์ข‹์€์ ์ด์˜ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด Huck์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ ,
05:24
you see, all been buried; it's all been buried.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฌปํ˜”์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฌปํ˜”์ฃ .
05:26
So the human touch, you see, it's disappearing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:29
So you ask about a defining moment --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ฃ .
05:31
ain't no defining moment in American history for me.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์—์„œ์˜ ์ ˆ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ์—†์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:33
It's an accretion of moments that add up to where we are now,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๊ณณ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋œ ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋“ค์˜ ๋ถ€์ฐฉ์ด์˜ˆ์š”.
05:36
where trivia becomes news.
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ํ•˜์ฐฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‰ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ณณ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
05:38
And more and more, less and less awareness of the pain of the other.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ณ ํ†ต ํ˜น์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ง€๊ฐ์ด ๋”์šฑ ๋” ๋œ ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:44
Huh. You know, I don't know if you could use this or not,
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ํ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•Œ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€์ง€ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ด์š”.
05:48
but I was quoting Wright Morris, a writer from Nebraska, who says,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” Nebraska ์ถœ์‹ ์˜ ์ž‘๊ฐ€ Wright Morris๋ฅผ ์ธ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:52
'We're more and more into communications
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ๋” ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
and less and less into communication.'
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋œ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
06:00
Okay, kids, I got to scram, got to go see my cardiologist."
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์ œ ์‹ฌ์žฅ์˜๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
06:05
And that's Studs Terkel.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ Studs Terkel์ด์ฃ .
06:06
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
06:12
So, talk about risk taking. I'm going to do somebody that nobody likes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งก์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:19
You know, most actors want to do characters that are likeable --
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋“ค์ด ํ˜ธ๊ฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
well, not always, but the notion, especially at a conference like this,
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”,ํ•ญ์ƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŠนํžˆ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
06:27
I like to inspire people.
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์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
06:29
But since this was called "risk taking,"
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์ง„ ์ด๋ž˜๋กœ
06:31
I'm doing somebody who I never do, because she's so unlikeable
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋งก์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งก๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ . ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜๋„ ํ˜ธ๊ฐ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
06:35
that one person actually came backstage
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฌด๋Œ€ ๋’ค๋กœ ์™€
06:36
and told me to take her out of the show she was in.
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์‡ผ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ •๋„์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:40
And I'm doing her because I think we think of risk,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—ญ์„ ๋งก์•˜์ฃ . ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
06:43
at a conference like this, as a good thing.
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์ด๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์˜์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์˜ˆ์š”. ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ์จ์š”.
06:45
But there are certain other connotations to the word "risk,"
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์œ„ํ—˜์ด๋ž€ ๋‹จ์–ด์—” ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•จ์ถ•์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
06:48
and the same thing about the word "nature." What is nature?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž์—ฐ์ด๋ž€ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ™์€ ์˜๋ฏธ์ด์ฃ . ์ž์—ฐ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
06:51
Maxine Greene, who's a wonderful philosopher
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ฒ ํ•™์ž Maxine Greene ์€,
06:54
who's as old as Studs, and was the head of a philosophy --
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Studs๋งŒํผ ๋Š™์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ฒ ํ•™๊ณ„์˜ ์šฐ๋‘๋จธ๋ฆฌ์˜€๋˜ ๊ทธ๋Š”
06:58
great, big philosophy kind of an organization --
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์ง๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฒ ํ•™์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:02
I went to her and asked her what are the two things
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ”๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ƒ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:04
that she doesn't know, that she still wants to know.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:07
And she said, "Well, personally, I still feel like I have to curtsey
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, "๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๊ปด์š”.
07:09
when I see the president of my university.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต์˜ ์ด์žฅ๋‹˜์„ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
07:12
And I still feel as though I've got to get coffee
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์•ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๊ปด์š”.
07:14
for my male colleagues, even though I've outlived most of them."
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๋‚˜์˜ ๋‚จ์ž ๋™๋ฃŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ค‘์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์‚ด์•˜์Œ์—๋„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ ."
07:16
And she said, "And then intellectually,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, "๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๋Šฅ์ ์œผ๋กœ,
07:19
I don't know enough about the negative imagination.
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์ €๋Š” ์›์กฐ์˜ ์ƒ์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์•Œ์ง€๋ชปํ•ด์š”.
07:22
And September 11th certainly taught us
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  9์›” 11์ผ์— ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค์–ด์š”.
07:24
that that's a whole area we don't investigate."
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํƒ๊ตฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ง€์—ญ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ ."
07:26
So this piece is about a negative imagination.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์ƒ์ƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์˜ˆ์š”.
07:29
It raises questions about what nature is, what Mother Nature is,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ž์—ฐ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ๋Œ€์ž์—ฐ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค์ฃ .
07:33
and about what a risk can be.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์œ„ํ—˜์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
07:35
And I got this in the Maryland Correctional Institute for Women.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๋žœ๋“œ ๊ต์ • ํ˜‘ํšŒ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ๊ฐ”์ฃ .
07:37
Everything I do is word for word off a tape.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ…Œ์ดํ”„์— ๊ฐ๊ฒจ์žˆ์ฃ .
07:40
And I title things because I think people speak in organic poems,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์‹œ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ์ œ๋ชฉ์„ ๋‹ฌ์•˜์–ด์š”.
07:44
and this is called "A Mirror to Her Mouth."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด "๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž…์œผ๋กœ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์šธ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์› ์ฃ .
07:45
And this is an inmate named Paulette Jenkins.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ Paulette Jenkins ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:56
"I began to learn how to cover it up,
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”,
08:00
because I didn't want nobody to know that this was happening in my home.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
08:05
I want everybody to think we were a normal family.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ•ด์š”.
08:08
I mean we had all the materialistic things,
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๊ทธ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฌผ์งˆ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:11
but that didn't make my children pain any less;
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ๋œ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
08:14
that didn't make their fears subside.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
08:17
I ran out of excuses about how we got black eyes
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆˆ๊ฐ€์— ํ‘ธ๋ฅธ๋ฉ์„ ์–ป๊ฒŒ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ํ•‘๊ณ„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
and busted lips and bruises. I didn't had no more excuses.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž…์ˆ ๊ณผ ํƒ€๋ฐ•์ƒ์„ ๋‹จ์†ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ์˜ ํ•‘๊ณ„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:24
And he beat me too. But that didn't change the fact
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ €๋ฅผ ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋ณ„ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:27
that it was a nightmare for my family; it was a nightmare.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์•…๋ชฝ์ด์˜€๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์•…๋ชฝ์ด์˜€์–ด์š”.
08:31
And I failed them dramatically,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹คํŒจํ–ˆ์ฃ .
08:33
because I allowed it to go on and on and on.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณ„์†๋˜๊ณ  ๋˜ ๊ณ„์†๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ—ˆ๋ฝํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
08:37
"But the night that Myesha got killed --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋‚ ๋ฐค Myesha๋Š” ์‚ดํ•ด๋‹นํ–ˆ์–ด์š”--
08:39
and the intensity just grew and grew and grew,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ฐ•๋„๋Š” ์ ์  ๋”, ๋”์šฑ ์‹ฌํ•ด์กŒ์ฃ 
08:43
until one night we came home from getting drugs,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง‘์— ๋Œ์•„์™”๋˜ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๋ฐค๊นŒ์ง€์š”.
08:48
and he got angry with Myesha, and he started beating her,
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๊ทธ๋Š” Myesha์—๊ฒŒ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:51
and he put her in a bathtub. Oh, he would use a belt.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์š•์กฐ์— ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์ฃ . ์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฒจํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:54
He had a belt because he had this warped perverted thing
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์„ฑ๋„์ฐฉ์ž๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋ฒจํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:57
that Myesha was having sex with her little brother
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๊ทธ๋Š” Myesha๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋™์ƒ๊ณผ ์„ฑ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
08:59
and they was fondling each other -- that would be his reason.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์• ๋ฌดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค-- ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ์ด์œ ์˜€์ฃ .
09:01
I'm just talking about the particular night that she died.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ทธ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ๋‚ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
And so he put her in the bathtub,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์š•์กฐ ์•ˆ์— ๋„ฃ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
09:08
and I was in the bedroom with the baby.
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์ €๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์นจ์‹ค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:09
"And four months before this happened, four months before Myesha died,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ 4๋‹ฌ์ „, ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ๊ธฐ 4๋‹ฌ ์ „์—,
09:13
I thought I could really fix this man. So I had a baby by him -- insane --
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ณ ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์— ์˜ํ•ด ์• ๋ฅผ ๋ฒ ์—ˆ์ฃ  -- ๋ฏธ์นœ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
09:19
thinking that if I gave him his own kid, he would leave mine alone.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๋‚ด ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋งŒํžˆ ๋‘˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:22
And it didn't work, didn't work.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹คํŒจํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์‹คํŒจํ–ˆ์ฃ .
09:26
And I ended up with three children, Houston, Myesha and Dominic,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์„ธ๋ช…์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค, Houston๊ณผ Myesha ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Dominic
09:30
who was four months old when I came to jail.
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Dominic์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ์™”์„ ๋•Œ 4๋‹ฌ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:33
"And I was in the bedroom. Like I said, he had her in the bathroom
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์นจ์‹ค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์š•์กฐ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ”์ง€์š”.
09:35
and he -- he -- every time he hit her, she would fall.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š”, ๊ทธ๋Š”... ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋„˜์–ด์กŒ์–ด์š”.
09:40
And she would hit her head on the tub. It happened continuously, repeatedly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์š•์กฐํ†ต์— ๋ถ€๋”ชํžˆ๊ฒŒ ๋•Œ๋ ธ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ณ„์† ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
09:45
I could hear it, but I dared not to move. I didn't move.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐํžˆ ์›€์ง์ผ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์ €๋Š” ์›€์ง์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
I didn't even go and see what was happening.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋ฌด์Šจ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:51
I just sat there and listened.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์•‰์•„์„œ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
09:54
And then he put her in the hallway.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณต๋„๋กœ ๋Œ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์™”์–ด์š”.
09:59
He told her, just set there. And so she set there for about four or five hours.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์•‰์œผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— 4~5์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„ ์•‰์•„์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:06
And then he told her, get up.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:09
And when she got up, she says she couldn't see.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์•ž์ด ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:12
Her face was bruised. She had a black eye.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด์€ ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ณค์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋ˆˆ์€ ๋ฉ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:17
All around her head was just swollen;
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ์œ„์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ€ํ’€์–ด์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:19
her head was about two sizes of its own size.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์›๋ž˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค 2๋ฐฐ๋‚˜ ๋” ์ปธ์–ด์š”.
10:25
I told him, 'Let her go to sleep.' He let her go to sleep.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ž๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ž๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
10:32
"The next morning she was dead.
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๋‹ค์Œ๋‚ , ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:37
He went in to check on her for school, and he got very excited.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•™๊ต๋กœ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Ÿฌ๊ฐ”๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
10:40
He says, 'She won't breathe.'
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ˆจ์„ ์•ˆ ์‰ฐ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
10:42
I knew immediately that she was dead.
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์ €๋Š” ์ฆ‰๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š”.
10:46
I didn't even want to accept the fact that she was dead, so I went in
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ทธ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์กฐ์ฐจ ์›ํ•˜์งˆ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
10:49
and I put a mirror to her mouth --
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž… ์•ˆ์— ๊ฑฐ์šธ์„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์–ด์š”--
10:51
there was no thing, nothing, coming out of her mouth.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ . ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„์š”. ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ž… ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜จ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:55
He said, he said, he said,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:56
'We can't, we can't let nobody find out about this.'
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
10:58
He say, 'You've got to help me.' I agree. I agree.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋„์™€์ค˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ์ „ ๋™์˜ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋™์˜ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:02
"I mean, I've been keeping a secret for years and years and years,
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์ œ ๋ง์˜ ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ •๋ง ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ๊ทธ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ์ง€์ผœ์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜์ฃ .
11:05
so it just seemed like second hand to me, just to keep on keeping it a secret.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ„์ ‘์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์˜€์–ด์š”.
11:09
So we went to the mall and we told a police that we had, like, lost her,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒ์ ์— ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์žƒ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:15
that she was missing.
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๊ทธ๋…„ ์‹ค์ข…๋œ ๊ฑฐ ์˜€์ฃ .
11:18
We told a security guard that she was missing,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ข…๋๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์•ˆ๊ด€์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”;
11:24
though she wasn't missing.
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๋น„๋ก ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‹ค์ข…๋œ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜€์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
11:26
And we told the security guard what we had put on her
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ณด์™„๊ด€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์ž…๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:28
and we went home and we dressed her in exactly the same thing
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง‘์— ์™”๊ณ  ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์ž…ํ˜”์ฃ .
11:31
that we had told the security guard that we had put on her.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์™„๊ด€์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ์š”.
11:35
"And then we got the baby and my other child,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•„์ด์™€ ์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์™”์ฃ ,
11:40
and we drove out to, like, I-95.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” l-95์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ชฐ์•„๋ƒˆ์ฃ .
11:47
I was so petrified and so numb,
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์ €๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒ์— ์งˆ๋ ธ๊ณ  ๋ฉํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ์˜€์–ด์š”.
11:50
all I could look was in the rear-view mirror.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์•˜๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐฑ๋ฏธ๋Ÿฌ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
11:55
And he just laid her right on the shoulder of the highway.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ ๊ณ ์†๋„๋กœ์˜ ๊ฐ€์— ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋‹ค ๋†“์•˜์ฃ .
12:05
My own child, I let that happen to."
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์ œ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ์š”. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋„๋ก ๋ƒ…๋‘์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:15
So that's an investigation of the negative imagination.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์ƒ์ƒ์˜ ํƒ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:20
(Applause)
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(ํ™˜ํ˜ธ)
12:25
When I started this project
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
12:27
called "On the Road: A Search For an American Character"
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๊ทธ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋Š” On the Road๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์› ์ฃ  : ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ
12:29
with my tape recorder, I thought that I was going to go around America
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์ œ ํ…Œ์ž…๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ์ „์—ญ์„ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋…€ ๋ณด๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
and find it in all its aspects -- bull riders, cowboys, pig farmers,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์–‘์ƒ๋“ค์„ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์ฃ  -- ํ™ฉ์†Œ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์นด์šฐ๋ณด์ด, ๋ผ์ง€ ๋†์žฅ ์ฃผ์ธ,
12:36
drum majorettes -- but I sort of got tripped on race relations,
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ณ ์ ๋Œ€์žฅ -- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ธ์ข… ๊ด€๊ณ„์—์„œ
12:40
because my first big show was a show about a race riot.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €์˜ ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‡ผ๋Š” ์ธ์ข… ํญ๋™์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‡ผ์˜€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
12:43
And so I went to both -- two race riots,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ - ๋‘๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ธ์ข… ํญ๋™ ๋“ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:46
one of which was the Los Angeles riot. And this next piece is from that.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋กœ์Šค์—”์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค ํญ๋™์ด์˜€๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ฑด๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
12:49
Because this is what I would say
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
12:51
I've learned the most about race relations, from this piece.
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์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ธ์ข… ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์™”์–ด์š”.
12:55
It's a kind of an aria, I would say, and in many tapes that I have.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์•„๋ฆฌ์•„์ด๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํ…Œ์ž…๋“ค์— ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
12:59
Everybody knows that the Los Angeles riots happened
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€, ๋กœ์Šค ์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค ํญ๋™์ด
13:02
because four cops beat up a black man named Rodney King.
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๋„ค๋ช…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ด€๋“ค์ด Rodney King์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ ํ‘์ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ ธ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:05
It was captured on videotape -- technology --
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋น„๋””์˜ค ํ…Œ์ดํ”„์— ์žกํ˜”๊ณ  -- ๊ธฐ์ˆ  --
13:07
and it was played all over the world.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋ฐฉ์˜๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:09
Everybody thought the four cops would go to jail.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ๋„ค๋ช…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ด€๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๊ฐˆ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:10
They did not, so there were riots.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํญ๋™๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
13:13
And what a lot of people forget, is there was a second trial,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žŠ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—” ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ์˜ ์žฌํŒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
13:15
ordered by George Bush, Sr.
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์กฐ์ง€ ๋ถ€์‹œ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋ช…๋ น๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
13:17
And that trial came back with two cops going to jail
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์žฌํŒ์€ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๊ฐ„ ๋‘๋ช…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ์–ด์š”.
13:22
and two cops declared innocent. I was at that trial.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‘๋ช…์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด๊ณ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์„ ์–ธํ–ˆ์ฃ . ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์žฌํŒ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:25
And I mean, the people just danced in the streets
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ธธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋ง‰ ์ถค์„ ์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:27
because they were afraid there was going to be another riot.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํญ๋™์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊นŒ๋ด ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
13:29
Explosion of joy that this verdict had come back this way.
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์ด ๋ฐฐ์‹ฌ์›๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์˜ ํ‘œ์ถœ์ด์ฃ .
13:32
So there was a community that didn't -- the Korean-Americans,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ๊ตญ๊ณ„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:36
whose stores had been burned to the ground.
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๊ทธ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด์˜ ์ƒ์ ๋“ค์€ ๋•… ์†์— ๋ฌปํ˜€์™”์ฃ .
13:38
And so this woman, Mrs. Young-Soon Han,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ์˜์ˆœ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ์ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€
13:40
I suppose will have taught me the most that I have learned about race.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ธ์ข…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์™”๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค์–ด์š”.
13:44
And she asks also a question that Studs talks about:
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ Studs ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
13:47
this notion of the "official truth," to question the "official truth."
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๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค์˜ ์ธ์‹๊ณผ, ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ์ง„์‹ค๋กœ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ด์ฃ .
13:50
So what she's questioning here, she's taking a chance
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
13:52
and questioning what justice is in society.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํšŒ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ •์˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌป๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
13:55
And this is called, "Swallowing the Bitterness."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด "์“ด๋ง›์„ ์‚ผํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์› ์ฃ .
13:59
"I used to believe America was the best.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ตœ๊ณ ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์–ด์™”์ฃ .
14:04
I watched in Korea many luxurious Hollywood lifestyle movie.
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์ €๋Š” ํ•œ๊ตญ์—์„œ, ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜ธํ™”๋กœ์šด ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ดค์–ด์š”.
14:12
I never saw any poor man, any black.
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์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„, ์–ด๋– ํ•œ ํ‘์ธ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
14:17
Until 1992, I used to believe America was the best -- I still do;
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1992๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ตœ๊ณ ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์–ด์™”์ฃ  -- ์ „ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
14:21
I don't deny that because I am a victim.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฌ์ƒ์ž์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ถ€์ธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
14:25
But at the end of '92, when we were in such turmoil,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 92๋…„๋„์˜ ๋์—, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ˜ผ๋ž€ ์†์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์„๋•Œ,
14:30
and having all the financial problems, and all the mental problems,
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๋ชจ๋“  ์žฌ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฉด์„œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฉด์„œ,
14:34
I began to really realize that Koreans
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
14:38
are completely left out of this society and we are nothing.
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ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ด ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ์š”.
14:45
Why? Why do we have to be left out?
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์™œ์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ์™œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
14:48
We didn't qualify for medical treatment, no food stamp, no GR,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ํ•™์ ์ธ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฆ๋ฐ›์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์‹ํ’ˆ ๋„์žฅ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ , GR ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
14:54
no welfare, anything. Many African-Americans who never work
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๋ณต์ง€ํ›„์ƒ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๊ณ„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€
15:01
got minimum amount of money to survive.
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์‚ด์•„๋‚จ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ์˜ ๋ˆ์€๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
15:05
We didn't get any because we have a car and a house.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐจ์™€ ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
15:13
And we are high taxpayer. Where do I find justice?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋†’์€ ์„ธ๊ธˆ์ œ๊ณต์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์ •์˜๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
15:24
"OK. OK? OK. OK.
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
15:31
Many African-Americans probably think that they won by the trial.
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๋งŽ์€ ์•„ํ”„๋ผ์นด๊ณ„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์žฌํŒ์—์„œ ์ด๊ฒผ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:35
I was sitting here watching them the morning after the verdict,
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์•‰์•„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ ์žฌํŒ ๋‹ค์Œ๋‚  ์•„์นจ์—์š”.
15:38
and all the day they were having a party, they celebrated,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
15:42
all of South Central, all the churches. And they say,
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๋‚จ์ค‘๋ถ€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ตํšŒ๋“ค์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:45
'Well, finally justice has been done in this society.'
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ •์˜๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ํ†ตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
15:51
Well, what about victims' rights?
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ํฌ์ƒ์ž์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
15:54
They got their rights by destroying innocent Korean merchants.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฌด๊ณ ํ•œ ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ ์ƒ์ธ๋“ค์„ ๊ดด๋กญํž˜์œผ๋กœ์จ ์–ป์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
16:07
They have a lot of respect, as I do, for Dr. Martin King.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋งˆํ‹ด ๋ฃจํ„ฐํ‚น์—๊ฒŒ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์กด๊ฒฝ์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
16:14
He is the only model for black community; I don't care Jesse Jackson.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ํ‘์ธ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด์ง€์š”; ์ €๋Š” Jesse Jackson์€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:21
He is the model of non-violence, non-violence --
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋น„ํญ๋ ฅ์˜ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด์ฃ . ๋น„ํญ๋ ฅ --
16:25
and they would all like to be in his spirit.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ •์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ฃ .
16:30
"But what about 1992? They destroyed innocent people.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 1992๋…„์— ์–ด๋• ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด๊ณ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ดด๋กญํ˜”์–ด์š”.
16:37
And I wonder if that is really justice
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ •์˜์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:41
for them, to get their rights in that way.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •์˜์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
16:48
I was swallowing the bitterness, sitting here alone and watching them.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์“ด๋ง›์„ ์‚ผํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์—ญ์— ํ™€๋กœ ์•‰์•„์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
16:57
They became so hilarious, but I was happy for them.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์šฐ์Šค์› ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ–‰๋ณตํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
17:04
I was glad for them. At least they got something back, OK.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค ๋•๋ถ„์— ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
17:09
Let's just forget about Korean victims and other victims
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ๊ตญ์ธ ํฌ์ƒ์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฌ์ƒ์ž๋“ค์„ ์žŠ๋„๋ก ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
17:16
who were destroyed by them.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›์•˜๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ง์ด์ฃ .
17:21
They fought for their rights for over two centuries,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 2์„ธ๊ธฐ ๋„˜๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹ธ์› ์ฃ .
17:30
and maybe because they sacrifice other minorities,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์†Œ์ˆ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํฌ์ƒํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
17:33
Hispanic, Asian, we would suffer more in the mainstream.
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ๊ณ„, ์•„์‹œ์•ˆ๊ณ„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ฅ˜์—์„œ ๋”์šฑ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
17:38
That's why I understand;
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์˜ˆ์š”.
17:39
that's why I have a mixed feeling about the verdict.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ํŒ๊ฒฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Š๋‚€ ๋ณตํ•ฉ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ์ •์ด์ง€์š”.
17:42
"But I wish that, I wish that, I wish that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:47
I could be part of the enjoyment.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ํฅ๋ฏธ์˜ ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ์š”.
17:50
I wish that I could live together with black people.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ‘์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์†Œ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:57
But after the riot, it's too much difference.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ํญ๋™ ์ดํ›„๋กœ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์–ด์š”.
18:07
The fire is still there. How do you say it? [Unclear].
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๊ทธ ํ™”์—ผ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์ง€์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
18:14
Igniting, igniting, igniting fire. Igniting fire.
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์ ํ™”, ์ ํ™”, ๋ถˆ์„ ์ ํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ฃ , ์ ํ™”ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
18:22
It's still there; it can burst out anytime."
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”; ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์–ด๋Š๋•Œ๋‚˜ ํƒ€์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
18:34
Mrs. Young-Soon Han.
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ํ•œ์˜์ˆœ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:36
(Applause)
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(ํ™˜ํ˜ธ)
18:44
The other reason that I don't wear shoes
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ ๋ฐœ์„ ์‹ ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
18:48
is just in case I really feel like I have to cuddle up
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฌ์˜นํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ด์ง€์š”.
18:51
and get into the feet of somebody,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋ฐœ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์˜ˆ์š”.
18:53
walking really in somebody else's shoes.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ์‹ ๋ฐœ์„ ์‹ ๊ณ  ๊ฑท๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์ง€์š”.
18:55
And I told you that in -- you know, I didn't give you the year,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์ฃ  -- ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๊ทธ ํ•ด์— ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
18:58
but in '79 I thought that I was going to go around
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 79๋…„๋„์— ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
19:01
and find bull riders and pig farmers and people like that,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ™ฉ์†Œ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋ผ์ง€ ๋†์žฅ ์ฃผ์ธ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
19:03
and I got sidetracked on race relations.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ธ์ข… ๊ด€๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ณ๊ธธ๋กœ ์ƒœ์ง€์š”.
19:06
Finally, I did find a bull rider, two years ago.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ, ์ €๋Š” 2๋…„ ์ „์— ํ™ฉ์†Œ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
19:09
And I've been going to the rodeos with him, and we've bonded.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ”๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ–ˆ์ฃ .
19:12
And he's the lead in an op-ed I did about the Republican Convention.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณตํ™”๋‹น์ „๋‹น๋Œ€ํšŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผํ‰ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด๋Œ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
19:17
He's a Republican -- I won't say anything about my party affiliation, but anyway --
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณตํ™”์ฃผ์˜์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค -- ์ €๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์ •๋‹น ์—ฐํœด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜์ง€์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จ‹๋“  --
19:22
so this is my dear, dear Brent Williams,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์นœ์• ํ•˜๋Š” Brent Williams๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:26
and this is on toughness,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฐ•์ธํ•จ์ด์ฃ .
19:27
in case anybody needs to know about being tough
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๋งŒ์•ฝ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋Š” ๊ฑธ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—
19:30
for the work that you do. I think there's a real lesson in this.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•์ธํ•จ์„ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์—๋Š” ์ง„์งœ ๊ตํ›ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
19:33
And this is called "Toughness."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด "๊ฐ•์ธํ•จ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ์šฐ์ฃ .
19:36
"Well, I'm an optimist. I mean basically I'm an optimist.
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๊ธ€์Žผ์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ฃผ์˜์ž์˜ˆ์š”. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ ๊ธ์ •์ฃผ์˜์ž์ฃ .
19:41
I mean, you know, I mean, it's like my wife, Jolene,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹ค๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด Jolene๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ฃ .
19:43
her family's always saying,
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:45
you know, you ever think he's just a born loser?
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•Œ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹คํŒจ์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์™”์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:47
It seems like he has so much bad luck, you know.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋ถˆ์šด์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
19:49
But then when that bull stepped on my kidney, you know,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ํ™ฉ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์ฝฉํŒฅ์— ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ์„ฐ์„ ๋•Œ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ,
19:51
I didn't lose my kidney -- I could have lost my kidney,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ฝฉํŒฅ์„ ์žƒ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ  -- ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ฝฉํŒฅ์„ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
19:53
I kept my kidney, so I don't think I'm a born loser.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ฝฉํŒฅ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์šด์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
19:55
I think that's good luck.
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์ „ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ–‰์šด์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
19:56
(Laughter)
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19:58
"And, I mean, funny things like this happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ด๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:00
I was in a doctor's office last CAT scan,
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์ €๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ CAT ์—์„œ ์˜์‚ฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
20:04
and there was a Reader's Digest, October 2002.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  2002๋…„ 10์›”, ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—” Reader's Digest๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ 
20:07
It was like, 'seven ways to get lucky.' And it says
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜, ํ–‰์šด์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ผ๊ณฑ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์˜€์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜์ฃ .
20:10
if you want to get lucky,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ–‰์šด์„ ์–ป๊ธธ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
20:11
you know, you've got to be around positive people.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ฃผ์œ„์— ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
20:13
I mean, like even when I told my wife that you want to come out here
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ , ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•  ๋•Œ์™€๋„ ๊ฐ™์ฃ .
20:17
and talk to me, she's like, 'She's just talking;
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ฃ .
20:19
she's just being nice to you. She's not going to do that.'
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”๋‹จ์ง€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์ž˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:21
"And then you called me up and you said you wanted to come out here
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์„ธ์› ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธธ ์›ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:23
and interview me and she went and looked you up on the Internet.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฐ”๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๊ทธ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋‹ค ๋ณด์•˜์ฃ .
20:25
She said, 'Look who she is.
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๊ทธ๋…„ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ์ง€ ๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
20:27
You're not even going to be able to answer her questions.'
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:29
(Laughter)
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20:33
And she was saying you're going to make me look like an idiot
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋ณด ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
20:35
because I've never been to college,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ํ•œ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ์ ์ด ์—†๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
20:36
and I wouldn't be talking professional or anything.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€ ํ˜น์€ ๋˜๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
20:38
I said, 'Well look, the woman talked to me for four hours.
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์ €๋Š” ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ์ž˜ ๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ 4์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
20:40
You know, if I wasn't talking -- you know,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€์•Œ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด,
20:42
like, you know, she wanted me to talk,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธธ ์›ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
20:43
I don't think she would even come out here.'
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ ์•ˆํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
20:48
"Confidence? Well, I think I ride
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ํ™•์‹ ์ด์š”? ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”
20:51
more out of determination than confidence.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
20:54
I mean, confidence is like, you know,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•„๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
20:55
you've been on that bull before; you know you can ride him.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํƒˆ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ธฐ ์ด์ „์— ๊ทธ ํ™ฉ์†Œ์œ„์— ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:57
I mean, confidence is kind of like being cocky, but in a good way.
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์ฆ‰, ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ž๋งŒ์‹ฌ์— ๊ฐ€๋“์ฐฌ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ , ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ๋Š”์š”.
21:01
But determination, you know, it's like just, you know, 'Fuck the form,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ ํˆฌ์ง€๋Š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด๋‹จ์ง€, "ํ˜•์‹์„ ํŒŒ๊ดดํ•˜๋ผ,
21:04
get the horn.'
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฟ”์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋ผ." ์ด์ฃ .
21:06
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
21:10
That's Tuff Hedeman, in the movie '8 Seconds.'
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๊ทธ๊ฑด 8์ดˆ ์˜ํ™”์—์„œ์˜ Tuff Hedeman ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:12
I mean, like, Pat O'Mealey always said when I was a boy,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด, Pat O'Mealey๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
21:14
he say, 'You know, you got more try than any kid I ever seen.'
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๊ทธ๋Š”, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ด์™”๋˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์•„์ด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋„ˆ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
21:17
And try and determination is the same thing.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ํˆฌ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
21:19
Determination is, like, you're going to hang on that bull,
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ํˆฌ์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ ํ™ฉ์†Œ์œ„์— ์˜ฌ๋ผํƒ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”,
21:21
even if you're riding upside down.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์œ„์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ํƒ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
21:23
Determination's like, you're going to ride
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ํˆฌ์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํƒ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
21:25
till your head hits the back of the dirt.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋“ฑ์— ๋ถ€๋”›ํž ๋•Œ ๊นŒ์ง€์š”.
21:28
"Freedom? It would have to be the rodeo.
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์ž์œ ์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค์—ฌ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
21:32
"Beauty? I don't think I know what beauty is.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์ด์š”? ์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
21:37
Well, you know, I guess that'd have to be the rodeo too.
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๊ธ€์Žผ์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์•„๋งˆ ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ผ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
21:39
I mean, look how we are, the roughy family,
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์ €๋Š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๋Š๋ƒ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๋Œ€์ถฉ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜,
21:40
palling around and shaking hands and wrestling around me.
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์ฃผ์œ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์นœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์•…์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ œ ์ฃผ์œ„์—์„œ ๋ ˆ์Šฌ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
21:43
It's like, you know, racking up our credit cards on entry fees and gas.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜, ์—ฐ๋ฃŒ์™€ ๊ฐ€์Šค๋น„์šฉ์—์„œ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ ๋ฆฝ ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์›Œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
21:46
We ride together, we, you know, we, we eat together
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋จน์–ด์š”.
21:49
and we sleep together.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ž ์„ ์ž์ฃ 
21:50
I mean, I can't even imagine what it's going to be like
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์•„์งˆ์ง€ ์ƒ์ƒ์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”.
21:53
the last day I rodeo. I mean, I'll be alright.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰๋‚ ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“ ๊ฒŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
21:55
I mean, I have my ranch and everything,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๋ชฉ์žฅ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
21:56
but I actually don't even want to think the day that comes.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ ๋‚˜๋‚ ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์กฐ์ฐจ ์›์น˜ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:59
I mean, I guess it just be like --
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฌด์—‡๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”--
22:01
I guess it be like the day my brother died.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ๋‚จ๋™์ƒ์ด ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋‚ ์ด ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
22:05
"Toughness? Well, we was in West Jordan, Utah, and this bull
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๊ฐ•์ธํ•จ์ด์š”? ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐํƒ€์— ์›จ์ŠคํŠธ์กฐ๋˜์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ด ํ™ฉ์†Œ๋Š”
22:10
shoved my face right through the metal shoots in a --
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๊ทธ ๊ธˆ์† ์ด์„ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ ์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ์ €๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
22:13
you know, busted my face all up and had to go to the hospital.
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์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ํญํŒŒ์‹œ์ผฐ๊ณ  ์ „ ๋ณ‘์›์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
22:16
And they had to sew me up and straighten my nose out.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ผฌ๋ฉ”๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋˜‘๋ฐ”๋กœ ์„ธ์› ์–ด์š”.
22:18
And I had to go and ride in the rodeo that night,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‚  ๋ฐค์— ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค๋ฅผ ํƒ”์ง€์š”.
22:20
so I didn't want them to put me under anesthesia,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์ทจ ์ƒํƒœ์— ๋†“๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›์น˜ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
22:23
or whatever you call it. And so they sewed my face up.
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ํ˜น์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋“ ์ง€ ๊ฐ„์—์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋‹ค ๊ผฌ๋ฉ”์—ˆ์ฃ .
22:26
And then they had to straighten out my nose,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ œ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋˜‘๋ฐ”๋กœ ์„ธ์›Œ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
22:28
and they took these rods and shoved them up my nose
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ๋ง‰๋Œ€๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ œ ์ฝ”์— ํž˜๊ป ๋ฐ€์–ด๋„ฃ์—ˆ์ฃ .
22:31
and went up through my brains
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ์ œ ๋‡Œ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๊ฐ”์ง€์š”.
22:33
and felt like it was coming out the top of my head,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ๊ผญ๋Œ€๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ๊ณผ๋„ ๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”.
22:35
and everybody said that it should have killed me,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€๊ทธ๊ฑด ์•„๋งˆ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ์˜€์–ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
22:37
but it didn't, because I guess I have a high tolerance for pain.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์•„ํ””์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ์ฐธ์„์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
22:41
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
22:44
But the good thing was, once they shoved those rods up there
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฑด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ๋ง‰๋Œ€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ง‘์–ด ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
22:47
and straightened my nose out, I could breathe,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ์„ธ์› ์„ ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
22:49
and I hadn't been able to breathe
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์ €๋Š” ์ˆจ์„ ์‰ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
22:51
since I broke my nose in the high school rodeo."
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ๋•Œ ๋กœ๋ฐ์˜ค ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ฝ”๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ๋œจ๋ฆฐ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
22:54
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:56
(Applause)
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