Anna Deavere Smith: Four American characters

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So my grandfather told me when I was a little girl,
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"If you say a word often enough, it becomes you."
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And having grown up in a segregated city, Baltimore, Maryland,
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I sort of use that idea to go around America with a tape recorder --
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thank God for technology --
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to interview people, thinking that if I walked in their words --
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which is also why I don't wear shoes when I perform --
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if I walked in their words, that I could sort of absorb America.
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I was also inspired by Walt Whitman,
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who wanted to absorb America and have it absorb him.
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So these four characters are going to be from that work
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that I've been doing for many years now,
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and well over, I don't know, a couple of thousand people
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I've interviewed.
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Anybody out here old enough to know Studs Terkel, that old radio man?
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So I thought he would be the perfect person
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to go to to ask about a defining moment in American history.
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You know, he was "born in 1912, the year the Titanic sank,
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greatest ship every built. Hits the tip of an iceberg,
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and bam, it went down. It went down and I came up. Wow, some century."
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(Laughter)
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So this is his answer about a defining moment in American history.
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"Defining moment in American history, I don't think there's one;
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you can't say Hiroshima, that's a big one --
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I can't think of any one moment I would say is a defining moment.
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The gradual slippage -- 'slippage' is the word
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used by the people in Watergate, moral slippage --
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it's a gradual kind of thing, combination of things.
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You see, we also have the technology.
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I say, less and less the human touch.
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"Oh, let me kind of tell you a funny little play bit.
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The Atlanta airport is a modern airport,
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and they should leave the gate there.
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These trains that take you out to a concourse and on to a destination.
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And these trains are smooth,
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and they're quiet and they're efficient.
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And there's a voice on the train, you know the voice was a human voice.
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You see in the old days we had robots, robots imitated humans.
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Now we have humans imitating robots.
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So we got this voice on this train: Concourse One: Omaha, Lincoln.
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Concourse Two: Dallas, Fort Worth. Same voice.
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Just as a train is about to go, a young couple rush in
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and they're just about to close the pneumatic doors.
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And that voice, without losing a beat, says,
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'Because of late entry, we're delayed 30 seconds.'
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Just then, everybody's looking at this couple with hateful eyes
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and the couple's going like this, you know, shrinking.
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Well, I'd happened to have had a couple of drinks before boarding --
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I do that to steel my nerves -- and so
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I imitate a train call, holding my hand on my --
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'George Orwell, your time has come,' you see.
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Well, some of you are laughing. Everybody laughs
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when I say that, but not on this train. Silence.
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And so suddenly they're looking at me.
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So here I am with the couple, the three of us
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shrinking at the foot of Calvary about to be up, you know.
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"Just then I see a baby, a little baby in the lap of a mother.
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I know it's Hispanic because she's speaking Spanish to her companion.
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So I'm going to talk to the baby. So I say to the baby,
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holding my hand over my mouth because my breath must be 100 proof,
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I say to the baby, 'Sir or Madam,
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what is your considered opinion of the human species?'
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And the baby looks, you know, the way babies look at you clearly,
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starts laughing,
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starts busting out with this crazy little laugh.
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I say, 'Thank God for a human reaction, we haven't lost yet.'
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"But you see, the human touch, you see, it's disappearing.
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You know, you see, you've got to question the official truth.
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You know the thing that was so great about Mark Twain --
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you know we honor Mark Twain, but we don't read him.
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We read 'Huck Finn,' of course, we read 'Huck Finn' of course.
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I mean, Huck, of course, was tremendous.
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Remember that great scene on the raft, remember what Huck did?
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You see, here's Huck; he's an illiterate kid; he's had no schooling,
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but there's something in him.
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And the official truth, the truth was, the law was,
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that a black man was a property, was a thing, you see.
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And Huck gets on the raft with a property named Jim, a slave, see.
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And he hears that Jim is going to go and take his wife and kids
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and steal them from the woman who owns them,
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and Huck says, 'Ooh, oh my God, ooh, ooh --
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that woman, that woman never did anybody any harm.
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Ooh, he's going to steal; he's going to steal;
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he's going to do a terrible thing.'
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Just then, two slavers caught up, guys chasing slaves, looking for Jim.
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'Anybody up on that raft with you?' Huck says, 'Yeah.'
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'Is he black or white?' 'White.' And they go off.
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And Huck said, 'Oh my God, oh my God, I lied, I lied, ooh,
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I did a terrible thing, did a terrible thing -- why do I feel so good?'
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"But it's the goodness of Huck, that stuff that Huck's been made of,
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you see, all been buried; it's all been buried.
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So the human touch, you see, it's disappearing.
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So you ask about a defining moment --
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ain't no defining moment in American history for me.
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It's an accretion of moments that add up to where we are now,
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where trivia becomes news.
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And more and more, less and less awareness of the pain of the other.
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Huh. You know, I don't know if you could use this or not,
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but I was quoting Wright Morris, a writer from Nebraska, who says,
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'We're more and more into communications
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and less and less into communication.'
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Okay, kids, I got to scram, got to go see my cardiologist."
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And that's Studs Terkel.
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(Applause)
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So, talk about risk taking. I'm going to do somebody that nobody likes.
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You know, most actors want to do characters that are likeable --
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well, not always, but the notion, especially at a conference like this,
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I like to inspire people.
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But since this was called "risk taking,"
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I'm doing somebody who I never do, because she's so unlikeable
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that one person actually came backstage
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and told me to take her out of the show she was in.
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And I'm doing her because I think we think of risk,
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at a conference like this, as a good thing.
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But there are certain other connotations to the word "risk,"
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and the same thing about the word "nature." What is nature?
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Maxine Greene, who's a wonderful philosopher
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who's as old as Studs, and was the head of a philosophy --
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great, big philosophy kind of an organization --
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I went to her and asked her what are the two things
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that she doesn't know, that she still wants to know.
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And she said, "Well, personally, I still feel like I have to curtsey
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when I see the president of my university.
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And I still feel as though I've got to get coffee
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for my male colleagues, even though I've outlived most of them."
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And she said, "And then intellectually,
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I don't know enough about the negative imagination.
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And September 11th certainly taught us
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that that's a whole area we don't investigate."
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So this piece is about a negative imagination.
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It raises questions about what nature is, what Mother Nature is,
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and about what a risk can be.
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And I got this in the Maryland Correctional Institute for Women.
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Everything I do is word for word off a tape.
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And I title things because I think people speak in organic poems,
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and this is called "A Mirror to Her Mouth."
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And this is an inmate named Paulette Jenkins.
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"I began to learn how to cover it up,
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because I didn't want nobody to know that this was happening in my home.
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I want everybody to think we were a normal family.
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I mean we had all the materialistic things,
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but that didn't make my children pain any less;
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that didn't make their fears subside.
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I ran out of excuses about how we got black eyes
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and busted lips and bruises. I didn't had no more excuses.
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And he beat me too. But that didn't change the fact
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that it was a nightmare for my family; it was a nightmare.
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And I failed them dramatically,
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because I allowed it to go on and on and on.
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"But the night that Myesha got killed --
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and the intensity just grew and grew and grew,
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until one night we came home from getting drugs,
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and he got angry with Myesha, and he started beating her,
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and he put her in a bathtub. Oh, he would use a belt.
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He had a belt because he had this warped perverted thing
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that Myesha was having sex with her little brother
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and they was fondling each other -- that would be his reason.
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I'm just talking about the particular night that she died.
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And so he put her in the bathtub,
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and I was in the bedroom with the baby.
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"And four months before this happened, four months before Myesha died,
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I thought I could really fix this man. So I had a baby by him -- insane --
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thinking that if I gave him his own kid, he would leave mine alone.
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And it didn't work, didn't work.
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And I ended up with three children, Houston, Myesha and Dominic,
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who was four months old when I came to jail.
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"And I was in the bedroom. Like I said, he had her in the bathroom
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and he -- he -- every time he hit her, she would fall.
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And she would hit her head on the tub. It happened continuously, repeatedly.
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I could hear it, but I dared not to move. I didn't move.
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I didn't even go and see what was happening.
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I just sat there and listened.
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And then he put her in the hallway.
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He told her, just set there. And so she set there for about four or five hours.
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And then he told her, get up.
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And when she got up, she says she couldn't see.
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Her face was bruised. She had a black eye.
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All around her head was just swollen;
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her head was about two sizes of its own size.
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I told him, 'Let her go to sleep.' He let her go to sleep.
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"The next morning she was dead.
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He went in to check on her for school, and he got very excited.
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He says, 'She won't breathe.'
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I knew immediately that she was dead.
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I didn't even want to accept the fact that she was dead, so I went in
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and I put a mirror to her mouth --
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there was no thing, nothing, coming out of her mouth.
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He said, he said, he said,
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'We can't, we can't let nobody find out about this.'
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He say, 'You've got to help me.' I agree. I agree.
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"I mean, I've been keeping a secret for years and years and years,
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so it just seemed like second hand to me, just to keep on keeping it a secret.
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So we went to the mall and we told a police that we had, like, lost her,
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that she was missing.
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We told a security guard that she was missing,
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though she wasn't missing.
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And we told the security guard what we had put on her
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and we went home and we dressed her in exactly the same thing
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that we had told the security guard that we had put on her.
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"And then we got the baby and my other child,
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and we drove out to, like, I-95.
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I was so petrified and so numb,
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all I could look was in the rear-view mirror.
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And he just laid her right on the shoulder of the highway.
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My own child, I let that happen to."
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So that's an investigation of the negative imagination.
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(Applause)
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When I started this project
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called "On the Road: A Search For an American Character"
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with my tape recorder, I thought that I was going to go around America
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and find it in all its aspects -- bull riders, cowboys, pig farmers,
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drum majorettes -- but I sort of got tripped on race relations,
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because my first big show was a show about a race riot.
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And so I went to both -- two race riots,
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one of which was the Los Angeles riot. And this next piece is from that.
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Because this is what I would say
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I've learned the most about race relations, from this piece.
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It's a kind of an aria, I would say, and in many tapes that I have.
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Everybody knows that the Los Angeles riots happened
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because four cops beat up a black man named Rodney King.
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It was captured on videotape -- technology --
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and it was played all over the world.
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Everybody thought the four cops would go to jail.
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They did not, so there were riots.
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And what a lot of people forget, is there was a second trial,
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ordered by George Bush, Sr.
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And that trial came back with two cops going to jail
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and two cops declared innocent. I was at that trial.
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And I mean, the people just danced in the streets
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because they were afraid there was going to be another riot.
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Explosion of joy that this verdict had come back this way.
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So there was a community that didn't -- the Korean-Americans,
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whose stores had been burned to the ground.
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And so this woman, Mrs. Young-Soon Han,
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I suppose will have taught me the most that I have learned about race.
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And she asks also a question that Studs talks about:
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this notion of the "official truth," to question the "official truth."
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So what she's questioning here, she's taking a chance
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and questioning what justice is in society.
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And this is called, "Swallowing the Bitterness."
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"I used to believe America was the best.
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I watched in Korea many luxurious Hollywood lifestyle movie.
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I never saw any poor man, any black.
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Until 1992, I used to believe America was the best -- I still do;
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I don't deny that because I am a victim.
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But at the end of '92, when we were in such turmoil,
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and having all the financial problems, and all the mental problems,
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I began to really realize that Koreans
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are completely left out of this society and we are nothing.
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Why? Why do we have to be left out?
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We didn't qualify for medical treatment, no food stamp, no GR,
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no welfare, anything. Many African-Americans who never work
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got minimum amount of money to survive.
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We didn't get any because we have a car and a house.
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And we are high taxpayer. Where do I find justice?
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"OK. OK? OK. OK.
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Many African-Americans probably think that they won by the trial.
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I was sitting here watching them the morning after the verdict,
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and all the day they were having a party, they celebrated,
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all of South Central, all the churches. And they say,
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'Well, finally justice has been done in this society.'
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Well, what about victims' rights?
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They got their rights by destroying innocent Korean merchants.
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They have a lot of respect, as I do, for Dr. Martin King.
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He is the only model for black community; I don't care Jesse Jackson.
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He is the model of non-violence, non-violence --
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and they would all like to be in his spirit.
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"But what about 1992? They destroyed innocent people.
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And I wonder if that is really justice
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for them, to get their rights in that way.
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I was swallowing the bitterness, sitting here alone and watching them.
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They became so hilarious, but I was happy for them.
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I was glad for them. At least they got something back, OK.
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Let's just forget about Korean victims and other victims
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who were destroyed by them.
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They fought for their rights for over two centuries,
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and maybe because they sacrifice other minorities,
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Hispanic, Asian, we would suffer more in the mainstream.
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That's why I understand;
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that's why I have a mixed feeling about the verdict.
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"But I wish that, I wish that, I wish that
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I could be part of the enjoyment.
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I wish that I could live together with black people.
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But after the riot, it's too much difference.
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The fire is still there. How do you say it? [Unclear].
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Igniting, igniting, igniting fire. Igniting fire.
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It's still there; it can burst out anytime."
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Mrs. Young-Soon Han.
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(Applause)
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The other reason that I don't wear shoes
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is just in case I really feel like I have to cuddle up
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and get into the feet of somebody,
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walking really in somebody else's shoes.
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And I told you that in -- you know, I didn't give you the year,
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but in '79 I thought that I was going to go around
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and find bull riders and pig farmers and people like that,
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and I got sidetracked on race relations.
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Finally, I did find a bull rider, two years ago.
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And I've been going to the rodeos with him, and we've bonded.
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And he's the lead in an op-ed I did about the Republican Convention.
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He's a Republican -- I won't say anything about my party affiliation, but anyway --
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so this is my dear, dear Brent Williams,
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and this is on toughness,
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in case anybody needs to know about being tough
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for the work that you do. I think there's a real lesson in this.
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And this is called "Toughness."
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"Well, I'm an optimist. I mean basically I'm an optimist.
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I mean, you know, I mean, it's like my wife, Jolene,
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her family's always saying,
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you know, you ever think he's just a born loser?
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It seems like he has so much bad luck, you know.
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But then when that bull stepped on my kidney, you know,
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I didn't lose my kidney -- I could have lost my kidney,
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I kept my kidney, so I don't think I'm a born loser.
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I think that's good luck.
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(Laughter)
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"And, I mean, funny things like this happen.
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I was in a doctor's office last CAT scan,
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and there was a Reader's Digest, October 2002.
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It was like, 'seven ways to get lucky.' And it says
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if you want to get lucky,
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you know, you've got to be around positive people.
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I mean, like even when I told my wife that you want to come out here
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and talk to me, she's like, 'She's just talking;
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she's just being nice to you. She's not going to do that.'
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"And then you called me up and you said you wanted to come out here
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and interview me and she went and looked you up on the Internet.
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She said, 'Look who she is.
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You're not even going to be able to answer her questions.'
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(Laughter)
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And she was saying you're going to make me look like an idiot
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because I've never been to college,
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and I wouldn't be talking professional or anything.
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I said, 'Well look, the woman talked to me for four hours.
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You know, if I wasn't talking -- you know,
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like, you know, she wanted me to talk,
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I don't think she would even come out here.'
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"Confidence? Well, I think I ride
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more out of determination than confidence.
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I mean, confidence is like, you know,
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you've been on that bull before; you know you can ride him.
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I mean, confidence is kind of like being cocky, but in a good way.
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But determination, you know, it's like just, you know, 'Fuck the form,
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get the horn.'
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(Laughter)
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That's Tuff Hedeman, in the movie '8 Seconds.'
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I mean, like, Pat O'Mealey always said when I was a boy,
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he say, 'You know, you got more try than any kid I ever seen.'
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And try and determination is the same thing.
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Determination is, like, you're going to hang on that bull,
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even if you're riding upside down.
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Determination's like, you're going to ride
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till your head hits the back of the dirt.
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"Freedom? It would have to be the rodeo.
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"Beauty? I don't think I know what beauty is.
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Well, you know, I guess that'd have to be the rodeo too.
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I mean, look how we are, the roughy family,
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palling around and shaking hands and wrestling around me.
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It's like, you know, racking up our credit cards on entry fees and gas.
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We ride together, we, you know, we, we eat together
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and we sleep together.
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I mean, I can't even imagine what it's going to be like
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the last day I rodeo. I mean, I'll be alright.
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I mean, I have my ranch and everything,
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but I actually don't even want to think the day that comes.
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I mean, I guess it just be like --
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I guess it be like the day my brother died.
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"Toughness? Well, we was in West Jordan, Utah, and this bull
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shoved my face right through the metal shoots in a --
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you know, busted my face all up and had to go to the hospital.
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And they had to sew me up and straighten my nose out.
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And I had to go and ride in the rodeo that night,
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so I didn't want them to put me under anesthesia,
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or whatever you call it. And so they sewed my face up.
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And then they had to straighten out my nose,
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and they took these rods and shoved them up my nose
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and went up through my brains
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and felt like it was coming out the top of my head,
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and everybody said that it should have killed me,
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but it didn't, because I guess I have a high tolerance for pain.
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(Laughter)
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But the good thing was, once they shoved those rods up there
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and straightened my nose out, I could breathe,
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and I hadn't been able to breathe
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since I broke my nose in the high school rodeo."
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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