Liz Diller: Architecture is a special effects machine

31,303 views ใƒป 2008-10-10

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Yafim Simanovsky ืžื‘ืงืจ: Ido Dekkers
00:16
Aside from keeping the rain out and producing some usable space,
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ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืœืžื ื•ืข ื—ื“ื™ืจืช ื’ืฉื ื•ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืžืงื•ื ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉื™,
00:23
architecture is nothing but a special-effects machine
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ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช ื”ื™ื ืœื-ื›ืœื•ื, ืืœื ืžื›ื•ื ืช ืืคืงื˜ื™ื
00:27
that delights and disturbs the senses.
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ืฉืžืฉืžื—ืช ื•ืžืคืจื™ืขื” ืœื—ื•ืฉื™ื.
00:30
Our work is across media. The work comes in all shapes and sizes.
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ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื ื‘ื—ืชืš ืฉืœ ืืžืฆืขื™ื. ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ืื” ื‘ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ืฆื•ืจื•ืช ื•ื’ื“ืœื™ื.
00:35
It's small and large. This is an ashtray, a water glass.
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ื”ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื” ื•ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ื–ื• ืžืืคืจื”, ื›ื•ืก ืžื™ื.
00:39
From urban planning and master planning
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ื”ื—ืœ ืžืชื›ื ื•ืŸ ืขื™ืจื•ื ื™ ื•ืชื›ื ื•ืŸ ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™
00:42
to theater and all sorts of stuff.
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ืœืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ ื•ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ืกื•ื’ื™ื ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื.
00:46
The thing that all the work has in common
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ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœื›ืœ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ืืœื•
00:48
is that it challenges the assumptions about conventions of space.
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ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ืŸ ืžืืชื’ืจื•ืช ืืช ื”ื”ื ื—ื•ืช ืœื’ื‘ื™ ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ื”ืžืจื—ื‘.
00:53
And these are everyday conventions,
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ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื ื™ื•ื,
00:55
conventions that are so obvious that we are blinded by their familiarity.
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ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื‘ืจื•ืจื•ืช ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขื™ื•ื•ืจื™ื ืขืงื‘ ื”ื”ื™ื›ืจื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ืื™ืชืŸ.
01:00
And I've assembled a sampling of work
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ื•ืื™ื’ื“ืชื™ ืžื‘ื—ืจ ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช
01:04
that all share a kind of productive nihilism
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ืฉื›ื•ืœืŸ ื—ื•ืœืงื•ืช ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื ื”ื™ืœื™ื–ื ื™ืฆืจื ื™
01:08
that's used in the service of creating a particular special effect.
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ืฉืžืฉื•ืžืฉ ืœืฆื•ืจืš ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืืคืงื˜ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื.
01:12
And that is something like nothing, or something next to nothing.
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ื•ื”ื•ื ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ืžื• ื›ืœื•ื, ืื• ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืœื•ื.
01:18
It's done through a form of subtraction or obstruction or interference
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ื–ื” ื ืขืฉื” ื“ืจืš ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืกืจื” ืื• ื—ืกื™ืžื” ืื• ื”ืคืจืขื”
01:23
in a world that we naturally sleepwalk through.
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ื‘ืขื•ืœื ืฉื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืชื”ืœื›ื™ื ื‘ื• ืžืชื•ืš ืฉื™ื ื”.
01:27
This is an image that won us a competition
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ื–ื• ืชืžื•ื ื” ืฉื–ื›ืชื” ืœื ื• ืชื—ืจื•ืช
01:30
for an exhibition pavilion for the Swiss Expo 2002
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ืœื‘ื™ืชืŸ ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ืœืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื”ืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ืช ื‘-2002
01:34
on Lake Neuchatel, near Geneva.
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ืขืœ ืื’ื ื ื•ืฉื•ื˜ืœ, ื›ืืŸ, ืœื™ื“ ื’'ื ื‘ื”.
01:36
And we wanted to use the water not only as a context,
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ื•ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืžื™ื ืœื ืจืง ื›ื”ืงืฉืจ,
01:39
but as a primary building material.
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ืืœื ื›ื—ื•ืžืจ ื‘ื ื™ื™ื” ืขื™ืงืจื™.
01:41
We wanted to make an architecture of atmosphere.
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ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื˜ืžื•ืกืคื™ืจื”.
01:44
So, no walls, no roof, no purpose --
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ืื–, ื‘ืœื™ ืงื™ืจื•ืช, ื‘ืœื™ ื’ื’, ื‘ืœื™ ืžื˜ืจื” -
01:47
just a mass of atomized water, a big cloud.
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ืจืง ืžืฆื‘ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืžื™ื ืžืคื•ืจืงื™ื ืœื—ืœืงื™ืงื™ื, ืขื ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœ.
01:50
And this proposal was a reaction to the over-saturation
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ื•ื”ื”ืฆืขื” ื”ื–ืืช ื”ื™ืชื” ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืœืจื•ื•ื™ืช-ื”ื™ืชืจ
01:53
of emergent technologies in recent national and world expositions,
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ืฉืœ ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช ืžืชื”ื•ื•ืช ื‘ืชืขืจื•ื›ื•ืช ืœืื•ืžื™ื•ืช ื•ืขื•ืœืžื™ื•ืช,
01:58
which feeds, or has been feeding, our insatiable appetite
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ืฉืžื–ื™ื ื”, ืื• ื”ื–ื™ื ื”, ืืช ื”ืชื™ืื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ื‘ืœืชื™ ืžืกื•ืคืง ืฉืœื ื•
02:03
for visual stimulation with an ever greater digital virtuosity.
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ืœื’ื™ืจื•ื™ ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ ืขื ื•ื™ืจื˜ื•ืื•ื–ื™ื•ืช ืฉืจืง ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ื•ื’ื“ืœื”.
02:09
High definition, in our opinion, has become the new orthodoxy.
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ืจื–ื•ืœื•ืฆื™ื™ื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”, ืœื“ืขืชื ื•, ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืื•ืจืชื•ื“ื•ืงืกื™ื” ื”ื—ื“ืฉื”.
02:14
And we ask the question, can we use technology, high technology,
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ื•ืฉืืœื ื• ืืช ื”ืฉืืœื”, ื”ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”, ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”,
02:18
to make an expo pavilion that's decidedly low definition,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืชืŸ ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื‘ืจื–ื•ืœื•ืฆื™ื™ื” ื ืžื•ื›ื”,
02:24
that also challenges the conventions of space and skin,
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ืฉื’ื ืžืืชื’ืจ ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ืžืจื—ื‘ ื•ืžืขื˜ืคืช,
02:27
and rethinks our dependence on vision?
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ื•ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืขืœ ื”ืชืœื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ื•ืช?
02:29
So this is how we sought to do it.
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ืื– ื–ื• ื”ืฆื•ืจื” ืฉื‘ื” ืฉืืคื ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”.
02:32
Water's pumped from the lake and is filtered
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ืžื™ื ื ืฉืื‘ื™ื ืžื”ืื’ื, ื•ืžืกื•ื ื ื™ื
02:34
and shot as a fine mist through an array of high-pressure fog nozzles,
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ื•ืžืจื•ืกืกื™ื ื›ืขืจืคืœ ื“ืง ื“ืจืš ืžืขืจืš ืฉืœ ื–ืจื‘ื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ืขืจืคืœ ื‘ืœื—ืฅ ื’ื‘ื•ื”,
02:39
35,000 of them. And a weather station is on the structure.
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35,000 ืžื”ืŸ. ื•ื™ืฉ ืชื—ื ืช ืžื–ื’ ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืžื‘ื ื”.
02:43
It reads the shifting conditions of temperature, humidity,
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ื”ื™ื ืงื•ืจืืช ืืช ื”ืชื ืื™ื ื”ืžืฉืชื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื˜ืžืคืจื˜ื•ืจื”, ืœื—ื•ืช,
02:46
wind direction, wind speed, dew point,
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ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืจื•ื—, ืžื”ื™ืจื•ืช ืจื•ื—, ื ืงื•ื“ืช ื”ื˜ืœ,
02:49
and it processes this data in a central computer
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืžืขื‘ื“ืช ืืช ื”ืžื™ื“ืข ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืžื—ืฉื‘ ืžืจื›ื–ื™
02:52
that calibrates the degree of water pressure
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ืฉืžื—ืฉื‘ ืืช ื“ืจื’ืช ืœื—ืฅ ื”ืžื™ื
02:55
and distribution of water throughout.
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ื•ืคื™ื–ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื™ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืžืงื•ื.
02:57
And it's a responsive system that's trained on actual weather.
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ื•ื–ื• ืžืขืจื›ืช ืชื’ื•ื‘ืชื™ืช ืฉืžืื•ืžื ืช ืขืœ ืžื–ื’ ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ืืžื™ืชื™.
03:02
So, this is just in construction, and there's a tensegrity structure.
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ืื–, ื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ืฉืœื‘ ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ื”, ื•ื™ืฉ ืžื‘ื ื” ืฉืœ ืฉืœืžื•ืช ืžืชื—.
03:06
It's about 300 feet wide, the size of a football field,
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ื–ื” ื‘ืขืจืš 91 ืžื˜ืจื™ื ืœืจื•ื—ื‘, ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœ ืฉืœ ืžื’ืจืฉ ืคื•ื˜ื‘ื•ืœ,
03:09
and it sits on just four very delicate columns.
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ื•ื–ื” ื™ื•ืฉื‘ ืจืง ืขืœ 4 ืขืžื•ื“ื™ื ืขื“ื™ื ื™ื.
03:13
These are the fog nozzles, the interface,
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ืืœื” ื”ืŸ ื–ืจื‘ื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื”ืขืจืคืœ, ื”ืžืžืฉืง,
03:16
and basically the system is kind of reading the real weather,
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ื•ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ื”ืžืขืจื›ืช ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืงื•ืจืืช ืืช ืžื–ื’ ื”ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ื”ืืžื™ืชื™,
03:20
and producing kind of semi-artificial and real weather.
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ื•ื™ื•ืฆืจืช ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืžื–ื’ ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ื—ืฆื™-ืžืœืื›ื•ืชื™ ื•ื—ืฆื™ ืืžื™ืชื™.
03:24
So, we're very interested in creating weather. I don't know why.
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ืื–, ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื•ื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื‘ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉืœ ืžื–ื’ ืื•ื•ื™ืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืœืžื”.
03:28
Now, here we go, one side, the outside
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื”ื ื”, ืฆื“ ืื—ื“, ื”ืฆื“ ื”ื—ื™ืฆื•ื ื™,
03:31
and then from the inside of the space
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ื•ืื– ืžืชื•ืš ื”ื—ืœืœ
03:33
you can see what the quality of the space was.
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ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ืื™ื›ื•ืช ื”ื—ืœืœ ืฉื”ื™ืชื”.
03:35
Unlike entering any normal space,
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ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื›ื ื™ืกื” ืœื›ืœ ื—ืœืœ ื ื•ืจืžืœื™,
03:38
entering Blur is like stepping into a habitable medium.
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ื”ื›ื ื™ืกื” ืœืขืจืคืœ ื”ื™ื ื›ืžื• ื›ื ื™ืกื” ืœืื–ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ื ื™ื™ื.
03:42
It's formless, featureless, depthless, scaleless, massless,
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ื”ื•ื ืœืœื ืฆื•ืจื”, ืœืœื ืžืืคื™ื™ื ื™ื, ืœืœื ืขื•ืžืง, ื’ื•ื“ืœ ืื• ืžืกื”,
03:47
purposeless and dimensionless.
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ืœืœื ืžื˜ืจื” ื•ืœืœื ืžื™ืžื“ื™ื.
03:49
All references are erased,
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ื›ืœ ื”ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืกื•ื™ื•ืช ื ืžื—ืงื•ืช,
03:52
leaving only an optical whiteout and white noise of the pulsing nozzles.
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ื•ื ืฉืืจ ืจืง ืœื•ื‘ืŸ ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ ื•ื”ืจืขืฉ ื”ืœื‘ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ื–ืจื‘ื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื”ืคื•ืขืœื•ืช.
03:58
So, this is an exhibition pavilion
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ืื–, ื–ื” ื‘ื™ืชืŸ ืชืขืจื•ื›ื”
04:01
where there is absolutely nothing to see and nothing to do.
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ืฉื‘ื• ืื™ืŸ ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืœืจืื•ืช ื•ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช.
04:05
And we pride ourselves -- it's a spectacular anti-spectacle
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ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืชื’ืื™ื ื‘ืขืฆืžื ื• -- ื–ื” ืื ื˜ื™-ื—ื–ื™ื•ืŸ ืžืจื”ื™ื‘
04:11
in which all the conventions of spectacle are turned on their head.
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ืฉื‘ื• ื›ืœ ื”ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ื—ื–ื™ื•ืŸ ื ื”ืคื›ื•ืช ืขืœ ืจืืฉืŸ.
04:15
So, the audience is dispersed,
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ืื–, ื”ืงื”ืœ ืžืชืคื–ืจ,
04:17
focused attention and dramatic build-up and climax
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ืชืฉื•ืžืช ืœื‘ ืžืจื•ื›ื–ืช ื•ื“ืจืžื˜ื™ื•ืช ื•ื ืงื•ื“ืช ืฉื™ื
04:20
are all replaced by a kind of attenuated attention
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ื›ื•ืœื ืžืชื—ืœืคื™ื ื‘ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืจื™ื›ื•ื– ื ื—ืœืฉ
04:23
that's sustained by a sense of apprehension caused by the fog.
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ืฉืžืชืžืฉืš ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืชื—ื•ืฉืช ื”ื—ืฉืฉ ืฉื ื•ืฆืจืช ืขืงื‘ ื”ืขืจืคืœ.
04:27
And this is very much like how the Victorian novel used fog in this way.
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ื•ื–ื” ื“ื•ืžื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœืฆื•ืจื” ืฉื‘ื” ื”ืจื•ืžืŸ ื”ื•ื™ืงื˜ื•ืจื™ืื ื™ ื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื“ืจืš ื–ื•.
04:33
So here the world is put out of focus,
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ืื– ื›ืืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœื ื™ื•ืฆื ืžืจื™ื›ื•ื–,
04:36
while our visual dependence is put into focus.
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ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ืชืœื•ืช ื”ื—ื–ื•ืชื™ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื ื›ื ืกืช ืœืจื™ื›ื•ื–.
04:40
The public, you know, once disoriented
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ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื‘ื•ืœื‘ืœ
04:43
can actually ascend to the angel deck above
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ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืžืขืฉื” ืœืขืœื•ืช ืœืกื™ืคื•ืŸ ื”ืžืœืืš ืœืžืขืœื”
04:47
and then just come down under those lips into the water bar.
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ื•ืื– ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืจื“ืช ืžืชื—ืช ืœืฉืคืชื™ื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืœื‘ืจ ื”ืžื™ื.
04:50
So, all the waters of the world are served there,
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ืื–, ื›ืœ ื”ืžื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื ืžื•ื’ืฉื™ื ืฉื,
04:52
so we thought that, you know, after being at the water
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ืื– ื—ืฉื‘ื ื• ืฉ, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืืชื” ืœื™ื“ ื”ืžื™ื
04:56
and moving through the water and breathing the water,
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ื•ื–ื– ื“ืจืš ื”ืžื™ื ื•ื ื•ืฉื ืืช ื”ืžื™ื,
04:59
you could also drink this building.
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ืชื•ื›ืœ ื’ื ืœืฉืชื•ืช ืืช ื”ืžื‘ื ื” ื”ื–ื”.
05:02
And so it is sort of a theme,
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ื•ื›ืš, ื–ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื ื•ืฉื,
05:06
but it goes a little bit, you know, deeper than that.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขืžื•ืง ืžื–ื”, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื.
05:09
We really wanted to bring out
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ืžืžืฉ ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื”ื‘ืœื™ื˜
05:11
our absolute dependence on this master sense,
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ืืช ื”ืชืœื•ืช ื”ืžื•ื—ืœื˜ืช ืฉืœื ื• ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืฉ ื”ืขืœ ื”ื–ื”,
05:15
and maybe share our kind of sensibility with our other senses.
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืืช ื›ื•ืฉืจ ื”ื—ื™ืฉื” ืขื ืฉืืจ ื”ื—ื•ืฉื™ื.
05:19
You know, when we did this project it was a kind of tough sell,
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื›ืฉืขืฉื™ื ื• ืืช ื”ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืฉื” ืœืžื›ื•ืจ ืื•ืชื•,
05:23
because the Swiss said, "Well, why are we going to spend, you know,
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฆืจื™ื ืืžืจื•, "ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืœืžื” ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื,
05:25
10 million dollars producing an effect
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10 ืžื™ืœื™ื•ืŸ ื“ื•ืœืจ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืืคืงื˜
05:29
that we already have in natural abundance that we hate?"
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ืฉื›ื‘ืจ ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืžื ื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื˜ื‘ืขื™ืช ื•ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฉื•ื ืื™ื ืื•ืชื•?"
05:31
And, you know, we thought -- well, we tried to convince them.
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ื•ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื—ืฉื‘ื ื• -- ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื ื™ืกื™ื ื• ืœืฉื›ื ืข ืื•ืชื.
05:36
And in the end, you know, they adapted this as a national icon
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ื•ื‘ืกื•ืฃ, ื”ื ืื™ืžืฆื• ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืกืžืœ ืœืื•ืžื™
05:42
that came to represent Swiss doubt, which we -- you know,
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ืฉื‘ื ืœื™ื™ืฆื’ ืืช ื”ืกืคืงื ื•ืช ื”ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฆืจื™ืช, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• -- ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื,
05:47
it was kind of a meaning machine
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืžื›ื•ื ืช ืžืฉืžืขื•ืช
05:49
that everybody kind of laid on their own meanings off of.
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ืฉื›ื•ืœื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืœืงื—ื• ืžืžื ื• ืืช ื”ืžืฉืžืขื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื.
05:51
Anyway, it's a temporary structure that was ultimately destroyed,
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื–ื” ืžื‘ื ื” ื–ืžื ื™ ืฉื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื ื”ืจืก,
05:54
and so it's now a memory of an apparition, actually,
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ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื–ื™ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืจื•ื— ืจืคืื™ื, ืœืžืขืฉื”,
05:58
but it continues to live in edible form.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืžืฉื™ืš ืœื—ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืื›ื™ืœื”.
06:01
And this is the highest honor
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื” ืžื›ื•ืœื
06:03
to be bestowed upon an architect in Switzerland -- to have a chocolate bar.
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ืฉืื“ืจื™ื›ืœ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืงื‘ืœ ื‘ืฉื•ื•ื™ืฅ -- ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืขืœ ื—ืคื™ืกืช ืฉื•ืงื•ืœื“.
06:08
Anyway, moving along.
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืžืฉื™ืš.
06:10
So in the '80s and '90s, we were mostly known for independent work,
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ืื– ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”80 ื•ื”90, ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื™ื“ื•ืขื™ื ืœืจื•ื‘ ืขืงื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช ืขืฆืžืื™ื•ืช,
06:15
such as installation artist, architect,
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ื›ื’ื•ืŸ ื”ืชืงื ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืืžืŸ, ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœ,
06:19
commissioned projects by museums and non-for-profit organizations.
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ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื–ืžื ื• ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ื ื™ื ื•ืืจื’ื•ื ื™ื ืœืœื ืžื˜ืจื•ืช ืจื•ื•ื—.
06:24
And we did a lot of media work,
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ื•ืขืฉื™ื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื ืžื“ื™ื”,
06:27
also a lot of experimental theater projects.
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ื’ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื ืฉืœ ืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ ื ื™ืกื™ื•ื ื™.
06:29
In 2003, the Whitney mounted a retrospective of our work
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ื‘ืฉื ืช 2003, ื”"ื•ื•ื™ื˜ื ื™" ืขืฉื• ืกืงื™ืจื” ืฉืœ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื ื•
06:34
that featured a lot of this work from the '80s and '90s.
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ืฉื”ืฆื™ื’ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ืืช ืžืฉื ื•ืช ื”80 ื•ื”90.
06:38
However, the work itself resisted the very nature of a retrospective,
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ืื•ืœื, ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขืฆืžื” ื”ืชื ื’ื“ื” ืœื˜ื‘ืข ื”ืจื˜ืจื•ืกืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื™ ืขืฆืžื•,
06:44
and this is just some of the stuff that was in the show.
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ื•ื–ื” ืจืง ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืชืขืจื•ื›ื”.
06:47
This was a piece on tourism in the United States.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืฆื’ ืขืœ ืชื™ื™ืจื•ืช ื‘ืืจื”"ื‘.
06:50
This is "Soft Sell" for 42nd Street.
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ื–ื” ื”"ืชื ื”ืจืš" ื‘ืจื—ื•ื‘ 42.
06:53
This was something done at the Cartier Foundation.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื ืขืฉื” ื‘ืงืจืŸ ืงืจื˜ื™ื™ืจ.
06:56
"Master/Slave" at the MOMA, the project series, a piece called "Parasite."
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"ืื“ื•ืŸ\ืขื‘ื“" ื‘MOMA, ืกื“ืจืช ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื, ืžื™ืฆื’ ืฉื ืงืจื "ื˜ืคื™ืœ".
07:01
And so there were many, many of these kinds of projects.
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ื•ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกื•ื’ื™ื ื›ืืœื• ืฉืœ ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ื™ื.
07:04
Anyway, they gave us the whole fourth floor, and, you know,
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืื•ืคืŸ, ื”ื ื ืชื ื• ืœื ื• ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืงื•ืžื” ื”ืจื‘ื™ืขื™ืช, ื•ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื,
07:10
the problem of the retrospective
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ื”ื‘ืขื™ื” ืฉืœ ืจื˜ืจื•ืกืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื”
07:12
was something we were very uncomfortable with.
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ื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ื ื•ื— ืื™ืชื•.
07:14
It's a kind of invention of the museum
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ื–ื•ื”ื™ ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฆืื” ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ
07:16
that's supposed to bring a kind of cohesive understanding
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ืฉืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื‘ื ื” ืžืœื•ื›ื“ืช
07:20
to the public of a body of work.
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ืœืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ืขืœ ื’ื•ืฃ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื”.
07:22
And our work doesn't really resolve itself into a body in any way at all.
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ื•ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื ื• ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ืžืคืจืงืช ืืช ืขืฆืžื” ืœื’ื•ืฃ ื‘ืฉื•ื ืฆื•ืจื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ.
07:27
And one of the recurring themes, by the way, that in the work
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ื•ืื—ื“ ื”ื ื•ืฉืื™ื ื”ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื, ืื’ื‘, ื”ื™ื” ืฉื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
07:32
was a kind of hostility toward the museum itself,
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ื”ื™ืชื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืขื•ื™ื ื•ืช ื›ืœืคื™ ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ ืขืฆืžื•,
07:35
and asking about the conventions of the museum, like the wall, the white wall.
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ื•ืœืฉืื•ืœ ืขืœ ืžื•ืกื›ืžื•ืช ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ, ื›ืžื• ื”ืงื™ืจ, ื”ืงื™ืจ ื”ืœื‘ืŸ.
07:40
So, what you see here
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ืื–, ืžื” ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ื›ืืŸ
07:42
is basically a plan of many installations that were put there.
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ื–ื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชืฆื•ื’ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื• ืฉื.
07:45
And we actually had to install white walls
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ื•ืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืชืงื™ืŸ ืงื™ืจื•ืช ืœื‘ื ื™ื
07:48
to separate these pieces, which didn't belong together.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืจื™ื“ ืืช ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืืœื”, ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื™ื™ื›ื•ืช ืื—ืช ืœืฉื ื™ื”.
07:50
But these white walls became a kind of target and weapon at the same time.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืœื‘ื ื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื ื”ื™ื• ืžืŸ ืžื˜ืจื” ื•ื ืฉืง ื‘ื• ื–ืžื ื™ืช.
07:55
We used the wall to partition the 13 installations of the project
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ื”ืฉืชืžืฉื ื• ื‘ืงื™ืจ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ืฆื•ืฅ ืืช 13 ื”ืžื™ืฆื’ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜
07:58
and produce a kind of acoustic and visual separation.
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ื•ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื”ืคืจื“ื” ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™ืช ื•ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ืช.
08:03
And what you see is -- actually,
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ื•ืžื” ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ื”ื•ื -- ืœืžืขืฉื”,
08:05
the red dotted line shows the track of this performing element,
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ื”ืงื• ื”ืื“ื•ื ื”ืžืงื•ื•ืงื• ืžืจืื” ืืช ื”ืžืกืœื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ื’ื•ืจื ื”ืžื‘ืฆืข ื”ื–ื”,
08:10
which was a new piece that created -- that we created for the --
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ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืฆื’ ื—ื“ืฉ ืฉื ื•ืฆืจ -- ืฉื™ืฆืจื ื• ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื” ---
08:13
which was a robotic drill, basically, that went all the way around,
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ืฉื”ื™ื” ืžืงื“ื—ื” ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ืช, ื‘ืขืฆื, ืฉื”ืœื›ื” ื›ืœ ื”ื“ืจืš ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘,
08:17
cruised the museum, went all around the walls and did a lot of damage.
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ืฉื™ื™ื˜ื” ื‘ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ, ื”ืœื›ื” ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืœืงื™ืจื•ืช ื•ืขืฉืชื” ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื ื–ืง.
08:23
So, the drill was mounted on this robotic arm.
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ืื– ื”ืžืงื“ื—ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื•ืฆื‘ืช ืขืœ ื”ื–ืจื•ืข ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ืช ื”ื–ื•.
08:26
We worked with, by the way, Honeybee Robotics. This is the brain.
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ืขื‘ื“ื ื•, ืื’ื‘, ืขื Honeybee Robotics. ื–ื” ื”ืžื•ื—.
08:30
Honeybee Robotics designed the Mars Driller,
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Honeybee Robotics ืขื™ืฆื‘ื• ืืช "ืžืงื“ื— ื”ืžืื“ื™ื",
08:33
and it was really very much fun to work with them.
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžืื•ื“ ื›ื™ืฃ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขื ื”ืฆื•ื•ืช.
08:35
They weren't doing their primary work, which was for the government,
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ื”ื ืœื ืขืฉื• ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืžืžืฉืœื”,
08:39
while they were helping us with this.
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ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ื ืขื–ืจื• ืœื ื• ืขื ื–ื”.
08:42
In any case, the way it works is that
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ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงืจื”, ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื” ื–ื” ืขื•ื‘ื“ ื–ื”
08:44
an intelligent navigator basically maps the entire surface of these walls.
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ืฉื ื•ื•ื˜ ื—ื›ื ื‘ืขืฆื ืžืžืคื” ืืช ื›ืœ ืฉื˜ื— ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืืœื”.
08:50
So, unfolded it's about 300 linear feet.
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ืื–, ืคืจื•ืก, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืฆื 91 ืžื˜ืจื™ื ืœืื•ืจืš.
08:53
And it randomly generates points within a three-dimensional matrix.
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ื•ื–ื” ืžื™ื™ืฆืจ ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืืงืจืื™ืช ื‘ืžื˜ืจื™ืฆื” ืชืœืช-ืžื™ืžื“ื™ืช.
08:57
It selects a point, it guides the drill to that point, it pierces the dry wall,
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ื–ื” ื‘ื•ื—ืจ ื ืงื•ื“ื”, ืžื ื—ื” ืืช ื”ืžืงื“ื—ื” ืœืื•ืชื” ื ืงื•ื“ื”, ื–ื” ืงื•ื“ื— ื‘ืงื™ืจ ื”ื’ื‘ืก,
09:02
leaving a half-inch hole before traveling to the next location.
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ื•ืžืฉืื™ืจ ื—ื•ืจ ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœ ื—ืฆื™ ืื™ื ืฆ' (1.2 ืก"ืž), ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื–ื” ืขื•ื‘ืจ ืœืžื™ืงื•ื ื”ื‘ื.
09:07
Initially these holes were lone blemishes,
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ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ื”ื—ื•ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื”ื™ื• ืคื’ืžื™ื ื‘ื•ื“ื“ื™ื,
09:11
and as the exhibition continued
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ื•ื›ื›ืœ ืฉื”ืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ื”ืžืฉื™ื›ื”
09:13
the walls became increasingly perforated.
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ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื ื”ื™ื• ืžื—ื•ืจืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ.
09:16
So eventually holes on both sides of the wall aligned,
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ืื– ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ, ื—ื•ืจื™ื ื‘ืฉื ื™ ืฆื™ื“ื™ ื”ืงื™ืจ ื”ืชื™ื™ืฉืจื•,
09:19
opening views from gallery to gallery.
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ืคื•ืชื—ื™ื ื ื•ืฃ ืžื’ืœืจื™ื” ืœื’ืœืจื™ื”.
09:21
Clusters of holes randomly opened up sections of wall.
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ืงื‘ื•ืฆื•ืช ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืจื™ื ืคืชื—ื• ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืืงืจืื™ ื—ืœืงื™ื ืฉืœ ืงื™ืจื•ืช.
09:25
And so this was a three-month performance piece
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ื•ื›ืš ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื™ืฆื’ ืžื‘ืฆืข ื‘ืื•ืจืš ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื
09:28
in which the wall was made into kind of an increasingly unstable element.
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ืฉื‘ื• ื”ืงื™ืจ ื ื”ืคืš ื‘ื”ื“ืจื’ื” ืœื’ื•ืจื ืœื ื™ืฆื™ื‘.
09:35
And also the acoustic separation was destroyed.
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ื•ื’ื ื”ื”ืคืจื“ื” ื”ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™ืช ื ื”ืจืกื”.
09:39
Also the visual separation.
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ื•ื’ื ื”ื”ืคืจื“ื” ื”ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ืช.
09:41
And there was also this constant background groan, which was very annoying.
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ื•ื”ื™ืชื” ื’ื ืžืŸ ื’ื ื™ื—ื” ืงื‘ื•ืขื” ื‘ืจืงืข, ืฉืžืื•ื“ ื”ืฆื™ืงื”.
09:47
And this is one of the blackout spaces
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ื•ื–ื” ืื—ื“ ืžืื–ื•ืจื™ ื”ื”ืืคืœื”
09:49
where there's a video piece that became totally not useful.
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ืฉื”ื™ื” ืฉื ืžื™ืฆื’ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืœื ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉื™.
09:52
So rather than securing a neutral background for the artworks on display,
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ืื– ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืœืฉืจื™ื™ืŸ ืจืงืข ื ื™ื™ื˜ืจืœื™ ืœื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื‘ืชืฆื•ื’ื”,
09:56
the wall now actively competed for attention.
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ื”ืงื™ืจ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื”ืชื—ืจื” ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืคืขื™ืœ ืขืœ ืชืฉื•ืžืช ื”ืœื‘.
10:00
And this acoustical nuisance and visual nuisance
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ื•ืžื˜ืจื“ ื”ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™ ื•ื”ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ ื”ื–ื”
10:04
basically exposed the discomfort of the work
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ื‘ืขืฆื ื—ืฉืฃ ืืช ื—ื•ืกืจ ื”ื ื•ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื•ืช
10:07
to this encompassing nature of the retrospective.
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ืœื˜ื‘ืข ื”ืžืงื™ืฃ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจื˜ืจื•ืกืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื”.
10:13
It was really great when it started to break up all of the curatorial text.
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ื”ื™ื” ืžืžืฉ ื ื”ื“ืจ ื›ืฉื–ื” ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ืจื•ืก ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ื˜ืงืกื˜ ืฉืœ ื”ื›ื™ืชื•ื‘.
10:17
Moving along to a project that we finished about a year ago.
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ื ืžืฉื™ืš ื”ืœืื” ืœืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ืฉืกื™ื™ืžื ื• ื‘ืขืจืš ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื ื”.
10:21
It's the ICA -- the Institute of Contemporary Art -- in Boston,
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ื–ื” ื”ICA -- ื”ืžื•ืกื“ ืœืื•ืžื ื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื•ื•ื™ืช -- ื‘ื‘ื•ืกื˜ื•ืŸ,
10:26
which is on the waterfront.
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ืฉื”ื•ื ืขืœ ื”ื—ื•ืฃ.
10:28
And there's not enough time to really introduce the building,
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ื•ืื™ืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ ื‘ืืžืช ืœื”ืฆื™ื’ ืืช ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ,
10:31
but I'll simply say that the building negotiates
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื ื•ืฉื ื•ื ื•ืชืŸ
10:33
between this outwardly focused nature of the site --
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข ื”ืžืจื•ื›ื– ื›ืœืคื™ ื—ื•ืฅ ืฉืœ ื”ืืชืจ --
10:39
you know, it's a really great waterfront site in Boston --
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืืชืจ ื—ื•ืฃ ื ื”ื“ืจ ื‘ื‘ื•ืกื˜ื•ืŸ --
10:42
and this contradictory other desire to have an inwardly focused museum.
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ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืชืฉื•ืงื” ื”ืกื•ืชืจืช ื”ืื—ืจืช ื”ื–ืืช ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ ืžืจื•ื›ื– ื›ืœืคื™ ืคื ื™ื.
10:47
So, the nature of the building is that it looks at looking --
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ืื– ื”ื˜ื‘ืข ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืกืชื›ืœ ืขืœ ื”ืกืชื›ืœื•ืช --
10:51
I mean that's its primary objective,
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ ื–ื•ื”ื™ ืžื˜ืจืชื• ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ืช,
10:54
both its program and its architectural conceit.
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ื’ื ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื”ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื™ืช ืฉืœื•.
11:00
The building incorporates the site,
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ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืฉืœื‘ ืืช ื”ืืชืจ,
11:04
but it dispenses it in very small doses
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืžื—ืœืง ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื—ืœืงื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื
11:08
in the way that the museum is choreographed.
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ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืฉื‘ื” ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืื•ืŸ ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืชื ื•ืขื”.
11:11
So, you come in and you're basically squeezed by the theater,
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ืื–, ืืชื” ืœืžืขืฉื” ื ืžื—ืฅ ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ,
11:15
by the belly of the theater, into this very compressed space
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ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื‘ื˜ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ, ืœืชื•ืš ื—ืœืœ ืžืื•ื“ ื“ื—ื•ืก
11:17
where the view is turned off.
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ืื™ืคื” ืฉืื™ืŸ ื ื•ืฃ.
11:19
Then you come up in this glass elevator right near the curtain wall.
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ืื– ืืชื” ืขื•ืœื” ื‘ืžืขืœื™ืช ื”ื–ื›ื•ื›ื™ืช ื”ื–ื• ื™ืฉืจ ืœื™ื“ ืงื™ืจ ื”ื•ื™ืœื•ืŸ.
11:24
This elevator's about the size of a New York City studio apartment.
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ื”ืžืขืœื™ืช ื”ื™ื ื‘ืขืจืš ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœ ืฉืœ ื“ื™ืจืช ืกื˜ื•ื“ื™ื• ื‘ื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง.
11:28
And then, this is a view going up,
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ื•ืื–, ื–ื” ืžื‘ื˜ ืฉืœ ื”ืขืœื™ื™ื” ืœืžืขืœื”,
11:30
and then you could come into the theater,
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ื•ืื– ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก ืœืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ,
11:32
which can actually deny the view or open it up and become a backdrop.
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ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืžืขืฉื” ืœืžื ื•ืข ืืช ื”ื ื•ืฃ ืื• ืœืคืชื•ื— ืื•ืชื• ื•ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืœืžืจืงืข.
11:37
And many musicians choose to use the theater glass walls totally open.
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ื•ื”ืžื•ืŸ ืžื•ื–ื™ืงืื™ื ื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื–ื›ื•ื›ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืชื™ืื˜ืจื•ืŸ ื›ืฉื”ื ืคืชื•ื—ื™ื ืœื’ืžืจื™.
11:43
The view is denied in the galleries
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ื”ื ื•ืฃ ื ืฉืœืœ ื‘ื’ืœืจื™ื•ืช
11:45
where we receive just natural light,
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ืื™ืคื” ืฉื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืจืง ืื•ืจ ื˜ื‘ืขื™,
11:48
and then exposed again in the north gallery with a panoramic view.
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ื•ืื– ื ื—ืฉืฃ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ื’ืœืจื™ื” ื”ืฆืคื•ื ื™ืช ืขื ื ื•ืฃ ืคื ื•ืจืžื™.
11:53
The original intention of this space,
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ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ื”ืžืงื•ืจื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื—ืœืœ ื”ื–ื”,
11:55
which was unfortunately never realized,
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ืฉืœืžืจื‘ื™ืช ื”ืฆืขืจ ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ื”ื•ื’ืฉืžื”,
11:58
was to use lenticular glass
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ื”ื™ืชื” ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื–ื›ื•ื›ื™ืช ืขื“ืฉื”
12:00
which allowed only a kind of perpendicular view out.
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ืฉืชืืคืฉืจ ืจืง ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืžื‘ื˜ ืžืื•ื ืš ื›ืœืคื™ ื—ื•ืฅ.
12:03
In this very narrow space that connects east and west galleries
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ื‘ื—ืœืœ ื”ืฆืจ ืžืื•ื“ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืžื—ื‘ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื’ืœืจื™ื•ืช ื‘ืžื–ืจื— ื•ื‘ืžืขืจื‘
12:06
the intention was really to not get a climax,
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ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ืืžืช ืœื ืœืงื‘ืœ ืฉื™ื,
12:10
but to have the view stalk you,
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ืืœื ืฉื”ื ื•ืฃ ื™ืขืงื•ื‘ ืื—ืจื™ืš,
12:12
so the view would open up as you walked from one end to the other.
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ืื– ื”ื ื•ืฃ ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื™ืคืชื— ื›ื›ืœ ืฉืืชื” ืžืชืงื“ื ืžืงืฆื” ืื—ื“ ืœืฉื ื™.
12:16
This was eliminated because the view was too good,
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ื–ื” ื‘ื•ื˜ืœ ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉื”ื ื•ืฃ ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžื“ื™,
12:19
and the mayor said, "No, we just want this open."
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ื•ืจืืฉ ื”ืขื™ืจ ืืžืจ, "ืœื, ืื ื—ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ืคืชื•ื—."
12:22
The architect lost here.
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ื”ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœ ื”ืคืกื™ื“ ื›ืืŸ.
12:24
But culminating -- and that's where this hooks into the theme of my little talk --
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืฉื™ื -- ื•ื›ืืŸ ื–ื” ืžืชื—ื‘ืจ ืœื ื•ืฉื ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื™ื—ื” ื”ืงื˜ื ื” ืฉืœื™ --
12:27
is this Mediatheque,
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ื–ื” ื”ืžื“ื™ื”-ื˜ืง ื”ื–ื”,
12:29
which is suspended from the cantilevered portion of the building.
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ืฉืžื•ืฉื”ื” ืžื”ื—ืœืง ื”ื ืชืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ.
12:33
So this is an 80-foot cantilever -- it's quite substantial.
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ืื– ื–ื• ืฉืœื•ื—ื” ื‘ืื•ืจืš 24 ืžื˜ืจ -- ื–ื” ื“ื™ ืžืฉืžืขื•ืชื™.
12:36
So, it's already sticking out into space enough,
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ืื– ื›ื‘ืจ ื–ื” ื‘ื•ืœื˜ ืžืกืคื™ืง ืœื—ืœืœ ื”ื—ื™ืฆื•ื ื™,
12:40
and then from that is this, is this small area called the Mediatheque.
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ื•ืื– ืžืชื•ืš ื–ื”, ื”ืื–ื•ืจ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉื ืงืจื ืžื“ื™ื”-ื˜ืง.
12:45
The Mediatheque has something like 16 stations
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ื‘ืžื“ื™ื”-ื˜ืง ื™ืฉ ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ืžื• 16 ืชื—ื ื•ืช
12:49
where the public can get onto the server
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ืฉื‘ื”ืŸ ื”ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืœื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ืฉืจืช
12:51
and look at digital artworks or also curated artworks off the web.
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ื•ืœืฆืคื•ืช ื‘ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืื•ืžื ื•ืช ื“ื™ื’ื™ื˜ืœื™ื•ืช ืื• ื’ื ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืืฆื•ืจื•ืช ืžื”ืจืฉืช.
12:55
And this was really a kind of very important part of this building,
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื—ืœืง ืžืื•ื“ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื”,
13:02
and here is a point where architecture --
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ื•ื›ืืŸ ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื” ืฉื‘ื” ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช --
13:04
this is like technology-free -- architecture is only a framing device,
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ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ื ืงื™ ืžื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” -- ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช ื”ื™ื ืจืง ืืžืฆืขื™ ืžืกื’ื•ืจ,
13:08
it only edits the harbor view, the industrial harbor
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ื•ื”ื™ื ืจืง ืขื•ืจื›ืช ืืช ื ื•ืฃ ื”ื ืžืœ, ื”ื ืžืœ ื”ืชืขืฉื™ื™ืชื™
13:12
just through its walls, its floors and its ceiling,
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ืฉื ืžืฆื ืžืžืฉ ืžืขื‘ืจ ืœืงื™ืจื•ืช, ืœืจืฆืคื” ื•ืœืชืงืจื”,
13:16
to only expose the water itself, the texture of water,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ืฉื•ืฃ ืจืง ืืช ื”ืžื™ื ืขืฆืžื, ืืช ืžืจืงื ื”ืžื™ื,
13:22
much like a hypnotic effect created by electronic snow
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ืžืžืฉ ื›ืžื• ืืคืงื˜ ื”ื™ืคื ื•ื˜ื™ ืฉื ื•ืฆืจ ืข"ื™ ืฉืœื’ ืกื˜ื˜ื™
13:26
or a lava lamp or something like that.
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ืื• ืžื ื•ืจืช ืœื‘ื” ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”.
13:29
And here is where we really felt that there was a great convergence
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ื•ื›ืืŸ ืžืžืฉ ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ืฉื™ืฉ ื”ืชืžื–ื’ื•ืช ื ื”ื“ืจืช
13:33
of the technological and the natural in the project.
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ืฉืœ ื”ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ ื•ื”ื˜ื‘ืขื™ ื‘ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ื”ื–ื”.
13:38
But there is just no information, it's just -- it's just hypnosis.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ืžื™ื“ืข, ื–ื” ืจืง -- ื–ื” ืจืง ื”ื™ืคื ื•ื–ื”.
13:45
Moving along to Lincoln Center.
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ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืœืื” ืœืžืจื›ื– ืœื™ื ืงื•ืœืŸ.
13:48
These are the guys that did the project in the first place, 50 years ago.
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ืืœื” ื”ื ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืขืฉื• ืืช ื”ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื”, ืœืคื ื™ 50 ืฉื ื”.
13:52
We're taking over now, doing work that ranges in scale
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื•ืงื—ื™ื ืืช ื”ืžื•ืฉื›ื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ืงื ื™ ืžื™ื“ื” ืฉื•ื ื™ื
13:55
from small-scale repairs to major renovations and major facility expansions.
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ืžืชื™ืงื•ื ื™ื ื‘ืงื ื” ืžื™ื“ื” ืงื˜ืŸ ื•ืขื“ ืœืฉื™ืคื•ืฆื™ื ื ืจื—ื‘ื™ื ื•ื”ืจื—ื‘ื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ืœืžืชืงืŸ.
14:01
But we're doing it with a lot less testosterone.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ืขื ืคื—ื•ืช ื˜ืกื˜ื•ืกื˜ื•ืจื•ืŸ.
14:04
This is the extent of the work that's to be completed by 2010.
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ื–ื”ื• ื”ื™ืงืฃ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืืžื•ืจ ืœื”ืชื‘ืฆืข ืขื“ 2010.
14:09
And for the purposes of this talk,
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ื•ืœืฆื•ืจืš ื”ื”ืจืฆื” ื”ื–ืืช,
14:11
I wanted to isolate just a part of a project that's even a part of a project
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ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืจืง ืœื‘ื•ื“ื“ ื—ืœืง ืžืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืขืฆื ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืคืจื•ื™ื™ืงื˜
14:15
that touches a little bit on this theme of architectural special effects,
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ืฉื ื•ื’ืข ืงืฆืช ืœื ื•ืฉื ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืืคืงื˜ื™ื ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ื™ื ืฉืœ ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช,
14:19
and it happens to be our current obsession,
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ื•ื™ื•ืฆื ืฉื–ื• ื”ืื•ื‘ืกืกื™ื” ื”ื ื•ื›ื—ื™ืช ืฉืœื ื•,
14:23
and it plays a little bit with the purging and adding of distraction.
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืฉื—ืง ืงืฆืช ืขื ื”ื˜ื™ื”ื•ืจ ื•ื”ื”ื•ืกืคื” ืฉืœ ื”ืกื—ื•ืช ื“ืขืช.
14:29
It's Alice Tully Hall, and it's tucked under the Juilliard Building
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ื–ื” ืื•ืœื ืืœื™ืก ื˜ืืœื™, ื•ื”ื•ื ืชื—ื•ื‘ ืžืชื—ืช ืœื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื’'ื•ืœื™ืืจื“
14:33
and descends several levels under the street.
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ื•ื™ื•ืจื“ ื›ืžื” ืงื•ืžื•ืช ืžืชื—ืช ืœืจื—ื•ื‘.
14:37
So, this is the entrance to Tully Hall as it used to be,
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ืื– ื–ื• ื”ื›ื ื™ืกื” ืœืื•ืœื ื˜ืืœื™ ื›ืคื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืคืขื,
14:41
before the renovation, which we just started.
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ืœืคื™ ื”ืฉื™ืคื•ืฆื™ื, ืฉืจืง ื”ืชื—ืœื ื•.
14:43
And we asked ourselves, why couldn't it be exhibitionistic,
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ื•ืฉืืœื ื• ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื•, ืœืžื” ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืจืื•ื•ืชื ื™,
14:46
like the Met, or like some of the other buildings at Lincoln Center?
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ื›ืžื• ื”"ืžื˜", ืื• ื›ืžื• ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ืœื™ื ืงื•ืœืŸ?
14:49
And one of the things that we were asked to do
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ื•ืื—ื“ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ืชื‘ืงืฉื ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช
14:52
was give it a street identity, expand the lobbies and make it visually accessible.
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ื”ื™ื” ืœืชืช ืœืจื—ื•ื‘ ื–ื”ื•ืช, ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ืžื‘ื•ืื•ืช ื•ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื ื’ื™ืฉ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื•ื™ื–ืื•ืœื™ืช.
14:57
And this building, which is just naturally hermetic, we stripped.
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ื•ื”ื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื–ื”, ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื˜ื‘ืขื™ ืื˜ื•ื, ื”ืคืฉื˜ื ื•.
15:01
We basically did a striptease, architectural striptease,
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ืœืžืขืฉื” ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืœื• ืžื•ืคืข ื—ืฉืคื ื•ืช, ื—ืฉืคื ื•ืช ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื™ืช,
15:04
where we're framing with this kind of canopy --
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ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืžืกื’ืจื™ื ืขื ืžืŸ ื—ื•ืคื” ื›ื–ืืช --
15:09
the underside of three levels of expansion of Juilliard,
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ืืช ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ืชื—ืชื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืงื•ืžื•ืช ื”ืจื—ื‘ื” ืฉืœ ื’'ื•ืœื™ืืจื“,
15:12
about 45,000 square feet -- cutting it to the angle of Broadway,
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ื‘ืขืจืš 13 ืงืž"ืจ -- ื—ื•ืชื›ื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ืœืคื™ื ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ืจื•ื“ื•ื•ื™,
15:17
and then exposing, using that canopy to frame Tully Hall.
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ื•ืื– ื—ื•ืฉืคื™ื, ื•ืžืฉืชืžืฉื™ื ื‘ืื•ืชื” ื—ื•ืคื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืžืกื’ืจ ืืช ืื•ืœื ื˜ืืœื™.
15:22
Before and after shot. (Applause)
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ืชืžื•ื ืช ืœืคื ื™ ื•ืื—ืจื™. (ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
15:26
Wait a minute, it's just in that state, we have a long way to go.
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ื—ื›ื• ืจื’ืข, ื–ื” ืจืง ื‘ืžืฆื‘ ื”ื–ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืขื•ื“ ื“ืจืš ืืจื•ื›ื”.
15:30
But what I wanted to do was take a couple of seconds that I have left
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ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ื” ืœืงื—ืช ืืช ื”ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื•ืช ืฉื ืฉืืจื• ืœื™
15:33
to just talk about the hall itself,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืื•ืœื ืขืฆืžื•,
15:35
which is kind of where we're really doing a massive amount of work.
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ืฉื”ื•ื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืื™ืคื” ืฉื‘ืืžืช ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื›ืžื•ืช ืขืฆื•ืžื” ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
15:39
So, the hall is a multi-purpose hall.
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ืื– ื”ืื•ืœื ื”ื•ื ืื•ืœื ืจื‘-ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉื™.
15:42
The clients have asked us to produce a great chamber music hall.
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ื”ืœืงื•ื—ื•ืช ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืื•ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ืงืืžืจื™ืช.
15:47
Now, that's really tough to do with a hall that has 1,100 seats.
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืžืื•ื“ ืงืฉื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืขื ืื•ืœื ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื• 1,100 ืžื•ืฉื‘ื™ื.
15:51
Chamber and the notion of chamber has to do with salons
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ืœืžื•ื–ื™ืงื” ืงืืžืจื™ืช ื™ืฉ ืืช ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ืกืœื•ื ื™ื
15:54
and small-scale performances. They asked us to bring an intimacy.
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ื•ืžื•ืคืขื™ื ื‘ืงื ื” ืžื™ื“ื” ืงื˜ืŸ. ื”ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉื• ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืœื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช.
15:57
How do you bring an intimacy into a hall?
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ืื™ืš ืืชื” ืžื›ื ื™ืก ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ืœืื•ืœื?
16:00
Intimacy for us means a lot of different things.
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ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื ื• ืื•ืžืจืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื.
16:02
It means acoustic intimacy and it means visual intimacy.
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ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™ืช ื•ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ืช.
16:06
One thing is that the subway is running and rumbling right under the hall.
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ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“ ื–ื” ืฉื”ืจื›ื‘ืช ื”ืชื—ืชื™ืช ืคื•ืขืœืช ื•ืจืฆื” ืžืชื—ืช ืœืื•ืœื.
16:10
Another thing that could be fixed is the shape of the hall.
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ืขื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื ื• ืœืชืงืŸ ื–ื” ื”ืฆื•ืจื” ืฉืœ ื”ืื•ืœื.
16:12
It's like a coffin, it basically sends all the sound,
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ื”ื•ื ื›ืžื• ืืจื•ืŸ ืžืชื™ื, ื”ื•ื ื‘ืขืฆื ืฉื•ืœื— ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ,
16:15
like a gutter-ball effect, down the aisles.
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ื›ืžื• ื›ื“ื•ืจ ืžืคื•ืœืช, ื‘ืžื•ืจื“ ื”ืžืขื‘ืจื™ื.
16:17
The walls are made of absorptive surface,
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ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ืขืฉื•ื™ื™ื ืžืžืฉื˜ื— ืกื•ืคื’,
16:20
half absorptive, half reflective,
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ื—ืฆื™ ืกื•ืคื’, ื—ืฆื™ ืžืฉืงืฃ,
16:22
which is not very good for concert sound.
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ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืฆืœื™ืœ ืœืงื•ื ืฆืจื˜ื™ื.
16:25
This is Avery Fisher Hall, but the notion of junk -- visual junk --
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ื–ื” ืื•ืœื ืื™ื™ื‘ืจื™ ืคื™ืฉืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื–ื‘ืœ -- ื–ื‘ืœ ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ --
16:29
was very, very important to us, to get rid of visual noise.
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ื”ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื ื• ืœื”ื™ืคื˜ืจ ืžืจืขืฉ ื•ื™ื–ืื•ืœื™.
16:33
Because we can't eliminate a single seat,
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื‘ื˜ืœ ืืคื™ืœื• ืžื•ืฉื‘ ืื—ื“,
16:35
the architecture is restricted to 18 inches.
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ื”ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœืช ืœ45 ืก"ืž.
16:38
So it's a very, very thin architecture.
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ืื– ื–ื• ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื•ืช ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ื“ืงื”.
16:41
First we do a kind of partial box and box separation,
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ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืงื•ืคืกื ื—ืœืงื™ืช ื•ืงื•ืคืกืืช ื”ืคืจื“ื”,
16:45
to take away the distraction of the subway noise.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืกื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืžื˜ืจื“ ืฉืœ ืจืขืฉ ื”ืจื›ื‘ืช.
16:47
Next we wrap the entire hall -- almost like this Olivetti keyboard --
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ืื—ืจ ื›ืš ืื ื—ื ื• ืขื•ื˜ืคื™ื ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืื•ืœื -- ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืžื• ืžืงืœื“ืช ื”ืื•ืœื™ื‘ื˜ื™ ื”ื–ืืช --
16:52
with a material, with a wood material
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ื‘ื—ื•ืžืจ, ื—ื•ืžืจ ืžืขืฅ
16:55
that basically covers all the surfaces:
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ืฉื‘ืขืฆื ืžื›ืกื” ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžืฉื˜ื—ื™ื:
16:57
wall, ceiling, floor, stage, steps, everything, boxes.
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ืงื™ืจ, ืชืงืจื”, ืจืฆืคื”, ื‘ืžื”, ืžื“ืจื’ื•ืช, ื”ื›ืœ, ืงื•ืคืกืื•ืช ื™ืฉื™ื‘ื”.
17:01
But it's acoustically engineered to focus the sound into the house
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืžื”ื•ื ื“ืก ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœืจื›ื– ืืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืœืชื•ืš ื”ืื•ืœื
17:05
and back to the stage. And here's an acoustic shelf.
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ื•ื—ื–ืจื” ืœื‘ืžื”. ื•ื›ืืŸ ื™ืฉ ืžื“ืฃ ืืงื•ืกื˜ื™.
17:08
Looking up the hall. Just a section of the stage.
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ืžื‘ื˜ ืœืžืขืœื” ืขืœ ื”ืื•ืœื. ืจืง ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื‘ืžื”.
17:11
Just everything is lined, it incorporates --
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ื›ืžืขื˜ ื”ื›ืœ ืขื˜ื•ืฃ, ื–ื” ืžื›ื™ืœ --
17:14
every single thing that you could possibly imagine
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ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืœื“ืžื™ื™ืŸ
17:16
is tucked into this high-performance skin.
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ืชื—ื•ื‘ ืžืชื—ืช ืœืขื•ืจ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืขืœ ื”ืขื™ืฆื•ื‘ื™ื ื”ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื™ื.
17:18
But one more added feature.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ื“ ืชื›ื•ื ื” ื ื•ืกืคืช ืื—ืช.
17:20
So now that we've stripped the hall of all visual distraction,
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ืื– ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืฉื”ืคืฉื˜ื ื• ืืช ื”ืื•ืœื ืžื›ืœ ื”ืกื—ืช ื“ืขืช ื•ื™ื–ื•ืืœื™ืช,
17:23
everything that prevents this intimacy
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ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืžืคืจื™ืข ืœืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื•ืช ื”ื–ืืช
17:26
which is supposed to connect the house, the audience,
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ืฉืืžื•ืจ ืœื—ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ืื•ืœื, ืืช ื”ืงื”ืœ,
17:29
with the performers, we add one little detail,
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ืขื ื”ืžื•ืคื™ืขื™ื, ื”ื•ืกืคื ื• ืคืจื˜ ืื—ื“ ืงื˜ืŸ,
17:33
one piece of architectural excess, a special effect: lighting.
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ื—ืœืง ืื—ื“ ืฉืœ ืขื•ื“ืฃ ืื“ืจื™ื›ืœื™, ืืคืงื˜ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“: ืชืื•ืจื”.
17:37
We very strongly believe that the theatrics of a concert hall
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืฉื”ืชื™ืื˜ืจืœื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื•ืœื ืงื•ื ืฆืจื˜ื™ื
17:41
is as much in the space of intermission and the space of arrival
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ื”ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืžื™ื“ื” ื‘ื—ืœืœ ื”ื”ืคืกืงื” ื•ื‘ื—ืœืœ ื”ื›ื ื™ืกื”
17:45
as it is when the concert starts.
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ื›ืฉื ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืฉื”ืงื•ื ืฆืจื˜ ืžืชื—ื™ืœ.
17:47
So what we wanted to do was produce this effect,
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ืื– ืžื” ืฉืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ื” ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืืคืงื˜ ืฉื›ื–ื”,
17:51
this lighting effect,
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ืืคืงื˜ ืชืื•ืจื”,
17:53
which made us have to bioengineer the wood walls.
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ืฉื’ืจื ืœื ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ื›ืจื—ื™ื ืœื”ื ื“ืก ืืช ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืขืฅ ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ืช.
17:57
And what it entails is the use of resin, of this very thick resin
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืฆืจื™ืš ืฉื™ืžื•ืฉ ื‘ืฉืจืฃ, ืฉืจืฃ ืžืื•ื“ ืขื‘ื”
18:03
with a veneer of the same kind of wood that's used throughout the hall,
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ืขื ืฆื™ืคื•ื™ ืžืื•ืชื• ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืขืฅ ืฉืžืฉื•ืžืฉ ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืื•ืœื,
18:07
in a kind of seamless continuity
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ื‘ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฉื›ื™ื•ืช ื—ืœืงื”
18:11
that wraps the hall in light, like a belt of light: rather than separating,
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ืฉืขื•ื˜ืคืช ืืช ื”ืื•ืœื ื‘ืื•ืจ, ื›ืžื• ื—ื’ื•ืจื” ืฉืœ ืื•ืจ: ื‘ื ื™ื’ื•ื“ ืœื”ืคืจื“ื”,
18:16
like a proscenium would separate the audience from performers,
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ื›ืžื• ืฉืงื“ืžืช ื”ื‘ืžื” ืžืคืจื™ื“ื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืงื”ืœ ืœืžื•ืคื™ืขื™ื,
18:20
it connects audience with players.
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ื–ื” - ืžื—ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ืงื”ืœ ืขื ื”ื ื’ื ื™ื.
18:22
And this is a mockup that is in Salt Lake City
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ื•ื–ื” ื“ื’ื ืฉื ืžืฆื ื‘ืกื•ืœื˜ ืœื™ื™ืง ืกื™ื˜ื™
18:28
that gives you a sense of what this is going to look like in full-scale.
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ืฉื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื›ื ื”ืชืจืฉืžื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื™ืš ื–ื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื™ืจืื•ืช ื‘ืงื ื” ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืœื.
18:33
And this is a guy from Salt Lake City,
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ื•ื–ื” ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ืžืกื•ืœื˜ ืœื™ื™ืง ืกื™ื˜ื™,
18:36
this is what they look like out there.
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ื•ื›ื›ื” ื”ื ื ืจืื™ื ืฉื.
18:38
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
18:41
And for us, I mean it's really kind of a very strange thing,
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ื•ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื ื•, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช, ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ื“ื‘ืจ ืžื•ื–ืจ,
18:44
but the moments in the hall that the buzz kind of dies down
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจื’ืขื™ื ื‘ืื•ืœื ืฉื”ื–ืžื–ื•ื ืžืฉืชืชืง
18:50
when the audience is waiting for the performance to begin,
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ื›ืฉื”ืงื”ืœ ืžืžืชื™ืŸ ืฉื”ื”ื•ืคืขื” ืชืชื—ื™ืœ,
18:53
very similar to the parting of curtains or the raising of a chandelier,
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ื‘ื“ื•ืžื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื”ืคืจื“ื” ืฉืœ ื•ื™ืœื•ื ื•ืช ืื• ื”ืจืžื” ืฉืœ ื ื‘ืจืฉืช,
18:57
the walls will just exude this glow, temporarily stealing attention from the stage.
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ื”ืงื™ืจื•ืช ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื™ืคืจื™ืฉื• ืืช ื”ื–ื•ื”ืจ ื”ื–ื”, ื•ื–ืžื ื™ืช ื™ื’ื ื‘ื• ืชืฉื•ืžืช ืœื‘ ืžื”ื‘ืžื”.
19:03
And this is Tully in construction now.
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ื•ื–ื” ื˜ืืœื™ ื‘ื‘ื ื™ื™ื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื•.
19:07
I have no ending to say, except that I'm a couple of minutes over.
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ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืžื” ืœื•ืžืจ ืœืกื™ื•ื, ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืจื’ืช ื‘ืฉืชื™ ื“ืงื•ืช.
19:11
Thank you very much.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœื›ื.
19:13
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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