How judges can show respect | Victoria Pratt

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Prevoditelj: Viktorija Đuđik Recezent: Armin Talic
00:13
"Judge, I want to tell you something. I want to tell you something.
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"Sutkinjo, želim Vam nešto reći. Želim Vam nešto reći.
00:16
I been watching you
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Promatrala sam vas
00:18
and you're not two-faced.
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i niste dvolični.
00:20
You treat everybody the same."
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Prema svima ste jednaki."
00:23
That was said to me by a transgender prostitute
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To mi je rekla transrodna prostitutka
00:27
who before I had gotten on the bench
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koja je prije nego što sam došla na mjesto suca,
00:29
had fired her public defender,
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otpustila svog javnog branitelja,
00:31
insulted the court officer
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uvrijedila sudskog službenika
00:33
and yelled at the person sitting next to her,
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i vikala na osobu pored sebe,
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"I don't know what you're looking at. I look better than the girl you're with."
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"Ne znam što ti gledaš. Izgledam bolje od cure s kojom si."
00:39
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:41
She said this to me
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To mi je rekla
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after I said her male name low enough
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nakon što sam njeno muško ime izgovorila dovoljno tiho
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so that it could be picked up by the record,
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da ga čuje zapisničar,
00:49
but I said her female name loud enough
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ali njeno žensko ime dovoljno glasno
00:51
so that she could walk down the aisle towards counselor's table with dignity.
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da dođe niz prolaz prema savjetnikovom stolu dostojanstveno.
00:56
This is procedural justice, also known as procedural fairness,
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To je proceduralna pravda, poznata kao proceduralna pravičnost
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at its best.
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u najboljem izdanju.
01:01
You see, I am the daughter of an African-American garbageman
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Vidite, ja sam kći afričko-američkog smetlara
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who was born in Harlem
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koji se rodio u Harlemu
01:06
and spent his summers in the segregated South.
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i provodio ljeta na rasno podijeljenom Jugu.
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Soy la hija de una peluquera dominicana.
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Ja sam kći dominikanske frizerke.
01:12
I do that to make sure you're still paying attention.
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Samo provjeravam da još uvijek pažljivo slušate.
01:14
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:16
I'm the daughter of a Dominican beautician
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Ja sam kći dominikanske kozmetičarke
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who came to this country for a better life for her unborn children.
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koja je došla u ovu zemlju za boljim životom za svoju nerođenu djecu.
01:22
My parents taught me, you treat everyone you meet with dignity and respect,
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Roditelji su me učili: prema svima se odnosi s dostojanstvom i poštovanjem
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no matter how they look, no matter how they dress,
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kako god da izgledaju, kako god se oblačili,
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no matter how they spoke.
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kako god govorili.
01:31
You see, the principles of fairness
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Vidite, načela pravednosti
01:33
were taught to me at an early age,
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sam naučila u ranoj dobi,
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and unbeknownst to me, it would be the most important lesson
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i nisam bila svjesna da će to biti najvažnija lekcija
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that I carried with me to the Newark Municipal Court bench.
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koju ću ponijeti sa sobom na mjesto sutkinje općinskog suda u Newarku.
01:44
And because I was dragged off the playground
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A zato što su me odvlačili s igrališta
01:47
at the early age of 10 to translate for family members
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u dobi od 10 godina da prevodim članovima obitelji
01:51
as they began to migrate to the United States,
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kad su počinjali migrirati u Sjedinjene Američke Države,
01:54
I understand how daunting it can be for a person, a novice,
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razumijem kako zastrašujuće može biti za osobu, početnika,
01:59
to navigate any government system.
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snalaženje u bilo kojem pravnom sustavu.
02:02
Every day across America and around the globe,
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Svaki dan diljem Amerike, i širom svijeta,
02:05
people encounter our courts,
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ljudi susreću naše sudove,
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and it is a place that is foreign, intimidating
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i to je jedno strano mjesto, zastrašujuće
02:11
and often hostile towards them.
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i često neprijateljski nastrojeno prema njima.
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They are confused about the nature of their charges,
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Njih zbunjuje priroda njihovih optužbi,
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annoyed about their encounters with the police
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uznemiravaju ih susreti s policijom
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and facing consequences that might impact their relationships, their finances
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i suočeni su s posljedicama koje bi mogle utjecati na njihove odnose, financije
02:27
and even their liberty.
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i čak slobodu.
02:29
Let me paint a picture for you
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Dopustite mi da vam dočaram
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of what it's like for the average person who encounters our courts.
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kako je prosječnoj osobi koja se susreće s našim sudovima.
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First, they're annoyed as they're probed going through court security.
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Prvo ih uznemiravaju kad ih pretražuju dok prolaze kroz osiguranje suda.
02:40
They finally get through court security, they walk around the building,
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Napokon prođu osiguranje, hodaju po zgradi,
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they ask different people the same question
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pitaju različite ljude isto pitanje,
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and get different answers.
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a dobiju različite odgovore.
02:49
When they finally get to where they're supposed to be,
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Kad napokon stignu na mjesto gdje trebaju biti,
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it gets really bad when they encounter the courts.
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postane jako loše kad se sukobe sa sudstvom.
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What would you think if I told you
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Što biste pomislili kad vam kažem
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that you could improve people's court experience,
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da možete poboljšati iskustvo ljudi sa sudom,
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increase their compliance with the law
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povećati njihovo pridržavanje zakona
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and court orders,
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i sudskih odredbi,
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all the while increasing the public's trust
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i istovremeno povećati povjerenje ljudi
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in the justice system
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u pravosudni sustav
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with a simple idea?
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jednostavnom idejom?
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Well, that simple idea is procedural justice
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Pa, ta jednostavna ideja je proceduralna pravda
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and it's a concept that says
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i to je koncept koji kaže
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that if people perceive they are treated fairly
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da ako ljudi uočavaju da se prema njima ophode pošteno
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and with dignity and respect,
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s dostojanstvom i poštovanjem,
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they'll obey the law.
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poštovat će zakon.
03:24
Well, that's what Yale professor Tom Tyler found
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Pa, to je profesor s Yalea Tom Tyler otkrio
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when he began to study as far back in the '70s
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kad je počeo proučavati još dalekih 70-ih
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why people obey the law.
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zašto ljudi poštuju zakon.
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He found that if people see the justice system
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Otkrio je da ako ljudi vide pravosudni sustav
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as a legitimate authority to impose rules and regulations,
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kao legitiman autoritet koji postavlja pravila i propise
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they would follow them.
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oni će ih slijediti.
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His research concluded
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Njegovo istraživanje je pokazalo
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that people would be satisfied
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da će ljudi biti zadovoljni
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with the judge's rulings,
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sa sučevom presudom,
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even when the judge ruled against them,
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čak i kad presudi protiv njih,
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if they perceived that they were treated fairly
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ako su uvidjeli da su se prema njima ophodili pravedno
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and with dignity and respect.
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03:56
And that perception of fairness begins with what?
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A čime počinje percepcija pravednosti?
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Begins with how judges speak to court participants.
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Počinje time kako sudac govori sudionicima suda.
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Now, being a judge
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Sada, biti sudac
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is sometimes like having a reserve seat to a tragic reality show
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je ponekad kao da gledate loš reality show
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that has no commercial interruptions
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koji nema promidžbenih poruka
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and no season finale.
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i kapet kraj.
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It's true.
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Istina je.
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People come before me handcuffed,
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Ljudi dođu pred mene u lisičinama,
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drug-sick, depressed, hungry
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drogirani, depresivni, gladni
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and mentally ill.
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i mentalno bolesni.
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When I saw that their need for help
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Kad sam vidjela da je njihova potreba za pomoći
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was greater than my fear of appearing vulnerable on the bench,
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veća od mog straha da se pokažem ranjivom u sudnici,
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I realized that not only did I need to do something,
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shvatila sam da ne samo da moram nešto učiniti,
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but that in fact I could do something.
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nego da zapravo i mogu nešto učiniti.
04:41
The good news is is that the principles of procedural justice are easy
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Dobra vijest je da su načela proceduralne pravde jednostavna
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and can be implemented as quickly as tomorrow.
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i mogu se primijeniti već sutra.
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The even better news, that it can be done for free.
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Još bolja vijest je da se to može besplatno.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:51
The first principle is voice.
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Prvo načelo je glas.
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Give people an opportunity to speak,
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Dati ljudima priliku da govore,
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even when you're not going to let them speak.
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čak i kad im nećete dati da govore.
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Explain it.
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Objasnite im.
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"Sir, I'm not letting you speak right now.
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"Gospodine, neću Vam dopustiti da govorite sada.
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You don't have an attorney.
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Nemate odvjetnika.
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I don't want you to say anything that's going to hurt your case."
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Ne želim da kažete nešto što će naštetiti Vašem slučaju."
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For me, assigning essays to defendants
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Za mene, zadavanje eseja tuženiku
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has been a tremendous way of giving them voice.
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je bio odličan način davanja im glasa.
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I recently gave an 18-year-old college student an essay.
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Nedavno sam 18-ogodišnjem studentu zadala esej.
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He lamented his underage drinking charge.
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Žalio je zbog svoje optužbe za maloljetničko konzumiranje alkohola.
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As he stood before me reading his essay,
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Dok je stajao preda mnom čitajući esej,
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his voice cracking and his hands trembling,
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glas mu je pucao i ruke su mu se tresle,
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he said that he worried that he had become an alcoholic like his mom,
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rekao je da se brine da će postati alkoholičar kao njegova mama
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who had died a couple of months prior due to alcohol-related liver disease.
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koja je umrla nekoliko mjeseci ranije od bolesti jetre uzrokovane alkoholizmom.
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You see, assigning a letter to my father, a letter to my son,
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Vidite, zadavanje zadataka kao pismo svom ocu, pismo svom sinu,
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"If I knew then what I know now ..."
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"Da sam tada znao što znam sada..."
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"If I believed one positive thing about myself,
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"Da sam vjerovao u jednu pozitivnu stvar o sebi
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how would my life be different?"
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kako bi mi život bio drugačiji?"
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gives the person an opportunity to be introspective,
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daje osobi priliku za introspekciju,
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go on the inside,
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za pogled unutra,
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which is where all the answers are anyway.
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gdje su uostalom svi odgovori.
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But it also gives them an opportunity
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Ali im daje i priliku
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to share something with the court that goes beyond their criminal record
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da podijele nešto sa sudom što nadilazi njihov sudski dosje
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and their charges.
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i optužbe.
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The next principle is neutrality.
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Sljedeći princip je neutralnost.
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When increasing public trust in the justice system,
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Kad povećavate povjerenje javnosti u pravosudni sustav
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neutrality is paramount.
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neutralnost je presudna.
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The judge cannot be perceived to be favoring one side over the other.
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Suca se ne smije doživjeti kao da jednoj strani daje prednost nad drugom.
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The judge has to make a conscious decision not to say things like,
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Sudac mora svjesno odlučiti da ne govori stvari kao,
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"my officer," "my prosecutor," "my defense attorney."
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"moj službenik", "moj tužitelj", "moj branitelj."
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And this is challenging when we work in environments
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A to je teško kad radimo u okruženju
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where you have people assigned to your courts,
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u kojem su ljudi dodijeljeni sudu,
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the same people coming in and out of your courts as well.
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isti ljudi dolaze i odlaze iz sudnice.
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When I think of neutrality,
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Kad razmišljam o neutralnosti,
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I'm reminded of when I was a new Rutgers Law grad
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sjetim se kad sam bila svježi diplomac Rutgers pravnog fakulteta
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and freshly minted attorney,
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i svježe oblikovana odvjetnica,
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and I entered an arbitration and I was greeted by two grey-haired men
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i kad sam ušla u arbitražu, pozdravila su me dva sijeda muškarca
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who were joking about the last game of golf they played together
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koja su se šalila o zadnjoj partiji golfa koju su igrali zajedno
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and planning future social outings.
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i planirala buduće društvene izlete.
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I knew my client couldn't get a fair shot in that forum.
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Znala sam da moj klijent ne može dobiti poštenu priliku na tom sporu.
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The next principle is understand.
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Sljedeće načelo je razumijevanje.
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It is critical that court participants understand the process,
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Ključno je da sudionici na sudu razumiju proces,
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the consequences of the process
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posljedice procesa
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and what's expected of them.
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i što se od njih očekuje.
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I like to say that legalese is the language we use to confuse.
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Volim reći da korištenje jezika prava pomutnju stvara.
07:12
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:13
I am keenly aware that the people who appear before me,
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Jako sam svjesna da ljudi koji dođu pred mene,
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many of them have very little education
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mnogi od njih su slabo obrazovani
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and English is often their second language.
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i engleski im je često drugi jezik.
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So I speak plain English in court.
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Zato ja na sudu govorim običan engleski.
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A great example of this was when I was a young judge --
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Odličan primjer toga je kad sam bila mlada sutkinja,
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oh no, I mean younger judge.
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ne, mislila sam mlađa sutkinja.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:29
When I was a younger judge, a senior judge comes to me,
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Kad sam bila mlađa sutkinja, stariji sudac mi je prišao,
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gives me a script and says,
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dao mi je skriptu i rekao,
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"If you think somebody has mental health issues,
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"Ako misliš da netko ima mentalnih problema
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ask them these questions and you can get your evaluation."
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pitaj ih ova pitanja i tako možeš dobiti procjenu.
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So the first time I saw someone
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Prvi put kad sam vidjela nekoga
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who had what I thought was a mental health issue,
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za koga sam pomislila da ima mentalnih problema,
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I went for my script and I started to ask questions.
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pogledala sam skriptu i počela postavljati pitanja.
07:45
"Um, sir, do you take psycho -- um, psychotrop --
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"Hm, gospodine, uzimate li psiho..., hm, psihotrop...
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psychotropic medication?"
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psihotropne lijekove?
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"Nope."
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"Ne."
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"Uh, sir, have you treated with a psychiatrist before?"
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"Gospodine, jeste li se ikad liječili kod psihijatra?"
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"Nope."
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"Ne."
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But it was obvious that the person was suffering from mental illness.
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Ali bilo je očito da osoba pati od mentalnih bolesti.
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One day, in my frustration, I decided to scrap the script and ask one question.
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Jedan dan, u ljutnji, odlučila sam baciti skriptu i pitati jedno pitanje.
08:05
"Ma'am, do you take medication to clear your mind?"
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"Gospođo, uzimate li lijekove da razbistrite um?
08:08
"Yeah, judge, I take Haldol for my schizophrenia,
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"Da sutkinjo, uzimam Haldol za šizofreniju,
08:10
Xanax for my anxiety."
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Xanax za anksioznost."
08:13
The question works even when it doesn't.
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Pitanje radi čak i kad ne radi.
08:15
"Mr. L, do you take medication to clear your mind?"
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"Gospođo L, uzimate li lijekove da razbistrite um?"
08:18
"No, judge, I don't take no medication to clear my mind.
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"Ne sutkinjo, ne uzimam lijekove da razbistrim um.
08:21
I take medication to stop the voices in my head,
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Uzimam lijekove da zaustavim glasove u glavi,
08:23
but my mind is fine."
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ali moj um je u redu."
08:25
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
08:26
You see, once people understand the question,
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Vidite, kad ljudi razumiju pitanje,
08:29
they can give you valuable information
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mogu vam dati vrijedne informacije
08:31
that allows the court to make meaningful decisions
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koje omogućuju sudu da donese smislene odluke
08:34
about the cases that are before them.
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o slučajevima pred njima.
08:36
The last principle is respect,
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Posljednje načelo je poštovanje,
08:39
that without it none of the other principles can work.
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bez kojeg druga načela ne djeluju.
08:43
Now, respect can be as simple as,
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Poštovanje može biti jednostavno, kao:
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"Good afternoon, sir." "Good morning, ma'am."
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"Dobar dan gospodine." "Dobro jutro gospođo."
08:49
It's looking the person in the eye who is standing before you,
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To je gledanje u oči osobi koja stoji pred vama,
08:52
especially when you're sentencing them.
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naročito kad ih osuđujete.
08:55
It's when I say, "Um, how are you doing today?
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To je kad kažem, "Kako ste danas?
08:57
And what's going on with you?"
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Što ima kod Vas?"
08:58
And not as a greeting,
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I to ne kao pozdrav,
09:00
but as someone who is actually interested in the response.
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nego kao netko koga zaista zanima odgovor.
09:03
Respect is the difference between saying,
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Poštovanje je razlika između
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"Ma'am, are you having difficulty
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"Gospođo, imate li poteškoća
09:08
understanding the information in the paperwork?"
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s razumijevanjem informacjia na papirima?"
09:10
versus, "You can read and write, can't you?"
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i - "Znate čitati i pisati, zar ne?"
09:13
when you've realized there's a literacy issue.
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kad shvatite da ima poteđkoća s pismenosti.
09:16
And the good thing about respect is that it's contagious.
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Dobra stvar o poštovanju je što je ono zarazno.
09:19
People see you being respectful to other folks
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Ljudi vide da poštujete druge ljude
09:21
and they impute that respect to themselves.
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i pripisuju to poštovanje sebi samima.
09:23
You see, that's what the transgender prostitute was telling me.
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Vidite, to mi je transrodna prostitutka govorila.
09:27
I'm judging you just as much as you think you may be judging me.
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Prosuđujem Vas koliko Vi mislite da sudite meni.
09:31
Now, I am not telling you what I think,
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Sad, ne govorim vam što mislim,
09:33
I am telling you what I have lived,
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govorim vam što sam proživjela,
09:36
using procedural justice to change the culture at my courthouse
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korišteći proceduralnu pravdu da promijenim kulturu na svom sudu
09:40
and in the courtroom.
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i u sudnici.
09:42
After sitting comfortably for seven months
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Nakon što sam sedam mjeseci udobno sjedila
09:45
as a traffic court judge,
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kao sutkinja za prometne prekršaje,
09:47
I was advised that I was being moved to the criminal court,
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obavijestili su me da sam premještena na kazneni sud,
09:51
Part Two, criminal courtroom.
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u kaznenu sudnicu Drugi dio.
09:55
Now, I need you to understand,
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Trebate razumjeti,
09:56
this was not good news.
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to nisu bile dobre vijesti.
09:58
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:59
It was not.
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Nisu bile dobre.
10:01
Part Two was known as the worst courtroom in the city,
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Drugi dio je bio poznat kao najgora sudnica u gradu,
10:04
some folks would even say in the state.
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neki bi rekli i u državi.
10:07
It was your typical urban courtroom with revolving door justice,
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To je tipična urbana sudnica s uvijek istim ljudima,
10:11
you know, your regular lineup of low-level offenders --
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znate, redovna postava sitnih prijestupnika,
10:14
you know, the low-hanging fruit,
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znate, sitni kriminalci,
10:16
the drug-addicted prostitute,
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prostitutka ovisnica,
10:19
the mentally ill homeless person with quality-of-life tickets,
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mentalno bolestan beskućnik s kaznama za remećenje javnog reda i mira,
10:23
the high school dropout petty drug dealer and the misguided young people --
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sitni diler bez završene srednje škole i mladi ljudi skrenuli s puta,
10:28
you know, those folks doing a life sentence
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znate, ti ljudi odrađuju doživotnu kaznu
10:31
30 days at a time.
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mjesec po mjesec.
10:34
Fortunately, the City of Newark decided that Newarkers deserved better,
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Srećom, grad Newark je odlučio da Newarčani zaslužuju bolje
10:37
and they partnered with the Center for Court Innovation
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i udružili su se s Centrom za inovacije sudova
10:40
and the New Jersey Judiciary
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i pravosuđem New Jerseya
10:42
to create Newark Community Solutions,
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kako bi stvorili Rješenja Zajednice Newark,
10:44
a community court program
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sudski program zajednice
10:46
that provided alternative sanctions.
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koji pruža alternativne kazne.
10:49
This means now a judge
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To znači da sada sudac
10:52
can sentence a defendant to punishment with assistance.
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može dosuditi okrivljeniku kaznu i dodijeliti pomoć.
10:56
So a defendant who would otherwise get a jail sentence
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Tako okrivljenik koji bi inače dobio zatvorsku kaznu
10:58
would now be able to get individual counseling sessions,
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sad bi mogao dobiti individualno savjetovanje,
11:01
group counseling sessions as well as community giveback,
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grupno savjetovanje i oduživanje zajednici,
11:04
which is what we call community service.
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a to zovemo radom za opće dobro.
11:06
The only problem is that this wonderful program
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Jedini je problem što ovaj prekrasni program
11:09
was now coming to Newark and was going to be housed where?
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dolazi u Newark i provodit će se - gdje?
11:12
Part Two criminal courtroom.
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U kaznenoj sudnici Drugi dio.
11:15
And the attitudes there were terrible.
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Stavovi ondje su bili užasni.
11:17
And the reason that the attitudes were terrible there
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Razlog što su stavovi ondje bili užasni
11:20
was because everyone who was sent there
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je što su svi koji su bili poslani tamo
11:22
understood they were being sent there as punishment.
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pretpostavili da su poslani tamo za kaznu.
11:24
The officers who were facing disciplinary actions at times,
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Službenici kojima su se ponekad izricale disciplinske mjere,
11:28
the public defender and prosecutor
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javni branitelj i tužitelj
11:30
felt like they were doing a 30-day jail sentence on their rotation,
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su se osjećali kao da svaki mjesec služe zatvorsku kaznu,
11:35
the judges understood they were being hazed
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suci su mislili da ih muče i ponižavaju
11:37
just like a college sorority or fraternity.
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kao na sveučilišnom sestrinstvu ili bratstvu.
11:42
I was once told that an attorney who worked there
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Jednom su mi rekli da je odvjetnik koji radi tamo
11:44
referred to the defendants as "the scum of the earth"
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optuženike nazivao "šljamom na Zemlji",
11:48
and then had to represent them.
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a zatim ih je zastupao.
11:51
I would hear things from folks like,
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Čula sam da ljudi kažu:
11:53
"Oh, how could you work with those people? They're so nasty.
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"O, kako možeš raditi s tim ljudima? Baš su gadni.
11:55
You're a judge, not a social worker."
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Ti si sutkinja, ne socijalna radnica."
11:58
But the reality is that as a society, we criminalize social ills,
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Ali u stvarnosti mi kao društvo kriminaliziramo društvene probleme,
12:02
then sent people to a judge and say, "Do something."
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pa pošaljemo ljude sucu i kažemo: "Učinite nešto."
12:06
I decided that I was going to lead by example.
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Odlučila sam da ću voditi primjerom.
12:08
So my first foray into the approach came when a 60-something-year-old man
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Moj prvi napredak u pristupu bio je kad je 60-ogodišnjak
12:12
appeared before me handcuffed.
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došao pred mene u lisičinama.
12:14
His head was lowered and his body was showing the signs of drug withdrawal.
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Glava mu je bila pognuta, a tijelo je pokazivalo znakove apstinencijske krize.
12:19
I asked him how long he had been addicted, and he said, "30 years."
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Pitala sam ga koliko dugo je ovisnik, odgovorio je: "30 godina."
12:23
And I asked him, "Do you have any kids?"
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Pitala sam ga: "Imate li djece?"
12:26
And he said, "Yeah, I have a 32-year-old son."
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On je odgovorio, "Da, imam 32-ogodišnjeg sina."
12:29
And I said, "Oh, so you've never had the opportunity
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A ja sam rekla: "O, znači nikad niste imali priliku
12:32
to be a father to your son because of your addiction."
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biti otac svom sinu zbog svoje ovisnosti."
12:36
He began to cry.
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Zaplakao je.
12:38
I said, "You know what, I'm going to let you go home,
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Rekla sam: "Znate što, pustit ću vas kući,
12:41
and you'll come back in two weeks,
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i doći ćete za dva tjedna,
12:43
and when you come back, we'll give you some assistance for your addiction."
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i kad se vratite, mi ćemo Vam pomoći s ovisnosti."
12:46
Surprisingly, two weeks passed and he was sitting the courtroom.
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Začudo, dva tjedna su prošla, a on je sjedio u mojoj sudnici.
12:50
When he came up, he said, "Judge, I came back to court
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Kad je ustao, rekao je, "Sutkinjo, vratio sam se na sud
12:53
because you showed me more love than I had for myself."
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jer ste mi pokazali više ljubavi nego što sam sâm imao za sebe."
12:56
And I thought, my God, he heard love from the bench?
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I pomislila sam, Bože, osjetio je ljubav od suda?
13:00
I could do this all day.
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Mogla bih tako cijeli dan.
13:01
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:02
Because the reality is that when the court behaves differently,
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Jer činjenica je da kad se sud ponaša drugačije,
13:05
then naturally people respond differently.
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naravno da ljudi reagiraju drugačije.
13:08
The court becomes a place you can go to for assistance,
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Sud postaje mjesto na koje možete doći po pomoć,
13:11
like the 60-something-year-old schizophrenic homeless woman
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kao 60-ogodišnja šizofrenična beskućnica
13:15
who was in distress
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koja je patila
13:16
and fighting with the voices in her head,
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i borila se s glasovima u glavi,
13:18
and barges into court, and screams, "Judge!
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banula na sud i viknula: "Sutkinjo!
13:21
I just came by to see how you were doing."
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Samo sam svratila da vidim kako ste."
13:24
I had been monitoring her case for a couple of months,
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Pratila sam njezin slučaj nekoliko mjeseci,
13:27
her compliance with her medication,
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pratila uzima li lijekove,
13:29
and had just closed out her case a couple of weeks ago.
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i zatvorila sam njezin slučaj nekoliko tjedana ranije.
13:32
On this day she needed help,
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Taj dan je trebala pomoć,
13:34
and she came to court.
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i došla je na sud.
13:35
And after four hours of coaxing by the judge,
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I nakon što su je četiri sata nagovarali sutkinja,
13:39
the police officers and the staff,
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policajci i osoblje,
13:41
she is convinced to get into the ambulance
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uvjerili su je da uđe u vozilo hitne pomoći
13:44
that will take her to crisis unit
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koje će je odvesti na odsjek za krizna stanja
13:46
so that she can get her medication.
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gdje će dobiti svoje lijekove.
13:49
People become connected to their community
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Ljudi se povežu sa svojom zajednicom
13:52
when the court changes,
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kad se sud promijeni,
13:54
like the 50-something-year-old man
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kao 50-i-nešto-godišnjak
13:56
who told me, "Community service was terrible, Judge.
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koji mi je rekao: "Rad za opće dobro je bio užasan.
13:59
I had to clean the park, and it was full of empty heroin envelopes,
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Morao sam čistiti park, i bio je pun praznih vrećica heroina,
14:02
and the kids had to play there."
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a djeca su se igrala tamo."
14:04
As he wrung his hands, he confessed,
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I dok si je nervozno stiskao ruke, priznao je,
14:07
"Judge, I realized that it was my fault,
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"Sutkinjo, shvatio sam da sam ja kriv,
14:10
because I used that same park to get high,
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jer sam se u istom parku drogirao,
14:13
and before you sent me there to do community service,
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i prije nego što ste me poslali tamo na rad,
14:15
I had never gone to the park when I wasn't high,
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nikad nisam otišao u park, a da nisam bio nafiksan,
14:18
so I never noticed the children playing there."
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pa nikad nisam primijetio da se tamo djeca igraju."
14:22
Every addict in the courtroom lowered their head.
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Svaki ovisnik u sudnici pognuo je glavu.
14:25
Who better to teach that lesson?
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Tko bi bolje prenio tu lekciju?
14:28
It helps the court reset its relationship with the community,
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Pomaže sudu ponovno uspostaviti odnos sa zajednicom,
14:33
like with the 20-something-year-old guy
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kao s 20-i-nešto-godišnjakom
14:36
who gets a job interview through the court program.
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koji je pozvan na razgovor za posao kroz sudski program.
14:39
He gets a job interview at an office cleaning company,
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Dobio je razgovor za posao u tvrtci za čišćenje ureda
14:42
and he comes back to court to proudly say,
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i vratio se na sud da ponosno kaže:
14:44
"Judge, I even worked in my suit after the interview,
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"Sutkinjo, čak sam radio u odijelu nakon razgovora,
14:49
because I wanted the guy to see how bad I wanted the job."
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jer sam htio da čovjek vidi koliko žarko želim posao."
14:54
It's what happens when a person in authority
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To se dogodi kad se osoba s autoritetom
14:58
treats you with dignity and respect,
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odnosi prema vama s dostojanstvom i poštovanjem,
15:00
like the 40-something-year-old guy who struts down the aisle
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kao 40-i-nešto-godišnjak koji se šepurio niz prolaz
15:03
and says, "Judge, do you notice anything different?"
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i rekao: "Sutkinjo, primjećujete li nešto drugačije?"
15:06
And when I look up,
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A kad sam pogledala,
15:07
he's pointing at his new teeth
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pokazivao je na nove zube
15:10
that he was able to get after getting a referral from the program,
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koje je uspio dobiti nakon što je dobio preporuku od programa,
15:13
but he was able to get them to replace the old teeth
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a uspio ih je dobiti da zamijeni stare zube
15:17
that he lost as a result of years of heroin addiction.
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koje je izgubio zbog dugogodišnje ovisnosti o heroinu.
15:21
When he looks in the mirror,
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Kad pogleda u zrcalo
15:22
now he sees somebody who is worth saving.
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sada vidi nekoga vrijednog spašavanja.
15:25
You see, I have a dream
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Vidite, ja imam san,
15:27
and that dream is that judges will use these tools
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a taj san je da će suci koristiti ove alate
15:31
to revolutionize the communities that they serve.
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da revolucioniziraju zajednice kojima služimo.
15:35
Now, these tools are not miracle cure-alls,
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Sad, ovi alati nisu čarobni štapići,
15:37
but they get us light-years closer to where we want to be,
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ali nas dovode svjetlosnim godinama bliže mjestu na kojem želimo biti
15:41
and where we want to be is a place that people enter our halls of justice
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a želimo biti na mjestu na kojem ljudi uđu u sudnicu
15:45
and believe they will be treated with dignity and respect
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i vjeruju da će ih tretirati s dostojanstvom i poštovanjem
15:48
and know that justice will be served there.
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i znati da će tamo pravda biti zadovoljena.
15:52
Imagine that, a simple idea.
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Zamislite to, jednostavna ideja.
15:55
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:56
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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