Sheila Nirenberg: A prosthetic eye to treat blindness

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Prevoditelj: Senzos Osijek Recezent: Zlatko Smetisko
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I study how the brain processes
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Proučavam kako mozak obrađuje
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information. That is, how it takes
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informacije, tj. kako preuzima
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information in from the outside world, and
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informacije iz vanjskog svijeta i
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converts it into patterns of electrical activity,
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pretvara ih u obrasce električne aktivnosti
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and then how it uses those patterns
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te kako koristi te obrasce
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to allow you to do things --
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da bismo mogli obavljati određene radnje –
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to see, hear, to reach for an object.
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vidjeti, čuti, dosegnuti predmet.
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So I'm really a basic scientist, not
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Ja sam obični znanstvenik,
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a clinician, but in the last year and a half
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ne oftamolog, ali unatrag godinu i pol
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I've started to switch over, to use what
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istraživala sam kako iskoristiti
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we've been learning about these patterns
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znanje koje smo stekli o obrascima
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of activity to develop prosthetic devices,
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električne aktivnosti kako bismo razvili protetičke uređaje.
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and what I wanted to do today is show you
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Ono što danas želim učiniti jest pokazati vam
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an example of this.
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primjer toga.
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It's really our first foray into this.
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To je zaista naš prvi poduhvat u ovome.
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It's the development of a prosthetic device
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Razvitak protetičkog uređaja
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for treating blindness.
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za liječenje sljepoće.
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So let me start in on that problem.
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Dopustite mi da počnem.
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There are 10 million people in the U.S.
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U SAD – u, a u svijetu još mnogo više,
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and many more worldwide who are blind
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živi 10 milijuna ljudi koji su slijepi
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or are facing blindness due to diseases
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zbog bolesti mrežnice,
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of the retina, diseases like
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bolesti poput
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macular degeneration, and there's little
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makularne degeneracije
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that can be done for them.
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i gotovo da im se ne može pomoći.
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There are some drug treatments, but
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Postoje neki tretmani lijekovima,
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they're only effective on a small fraction
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ali oni su učinkoviti kod malog postotka oboljelih.
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of the population. And so, for the vast
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Stoga većini pacijenata
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majority of patients, their best hope for
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nadu u povratak vida pružaju
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regaining sight is through prosthetic devices.
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protetički uređaji.
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The problem is that current prosthetics
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Problem je što današnji protetički uređaji
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don't work very well. They're still very
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nisu baš učinkoviti. Još uvijek su jako ograničeni
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limited in the vision that they can provide.
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u vidu kojega mogu osigurati.
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And so, you know, for example, with these
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Na primjer, pomoću tih uređaja
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devices, patients can see simple things
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pacijenti mogu vidjeti tek jarko svjetlo
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like bright lights and high contrast edges,
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i visoko kontrastne rubove,
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not very much more, so nothing close
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ne mnogo; dakle,
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to normal vision has been possible.
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ništa blisko normalnom vidu nije moguće.
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So what I'm going to tell you about today
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Dakle, ono o čemu ću danas govoriti
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is a device that we've been working on
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tiče se uređaja na kojemu smo radili
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that I think has the potential to make
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i za kojeg mislim da isti ima mogućnost
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a difference, to be much more effective,
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biti drukčijim, biti znatno učinkovitiji.
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and what I wanted to do is show you
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Ono što želim učiniti jest pokazati vam
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how it works. Okay, so let me back up a
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kako on funkcionira. Kako biste mogli uočiti problem
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little bit and show you how a normal retina
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koji nastojim riješiti,
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works first so you can see the problem
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prvo mi dopustite da se nakratko vratim
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that we were trying to solve.
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i pokažem vam kako normalna mrežnica funkcionira.
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Here you have a retina.
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Ovdje vidite mrežnicu.
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So you have an image, a retina, and a brain.
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Vidite sliku, mrežnica, mozak.
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So when you look at something, like this image
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Dakle, kada gledate u nešto poput slike
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of this baby's face, it goes into your eye
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lica ovog djeteta, slika putuje prema oku
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and it lands on your retina, on the front-end
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te pada na mrežnicu, na završne stanice,
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cells here, the photoreceptors.
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ovdje, na fotoreceptore.
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Then what happens is the retinal circuitry,
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Zatim se stvara električni impuls,
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the middle part, goes to work on it,
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središnji dio ga obrađuje,
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and what it does is it performs operations
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on provodi operacije nad njim,
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on it, it extracts information from it, and it
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izvlači informacije iz njega
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converts that information into a code.
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te ih prevodi u kod.
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And the code is in the form of these patterns
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Kod je u obliku obrazaca
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of electrical pulses that get sent
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električne aktivnosti
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up to the brain, and so the key thing is
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koji se šalju u mozak. Ključna stvar jest
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that the image ultimately gets converted
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da se slika konačno prevodi u kod.
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into a code. And when I say code,
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Kada kažem kod,
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I do literally mean code.
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doslovce mislim na kod.
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Like this pattern of pulses here actually means "baby's face,"
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Ovaj obrazac impulsa zapravo znači “lice djeteta”
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and so when the brain gets this pattern
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i kada mozak primi ovaj obrazac impulsa,
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of pulses, it knows that what was out there
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on prepoznaje ono što vidi
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was a baby's face, and if it
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kao lice djeteta,
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got a different pattern it would know
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a da je zaprimio neki drugačiji obrazac, znao bi
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that what was out there was, say, a dog,
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da ono što vidi jest, naprimjer, pas;
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or another pattern would be a house.
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neki drugi obrazac predstavljao bi kuću.
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Anyway, you get the idea.
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U svakom slučaju, shvatili ste.
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And, of course, in real life, it's all dynamic,
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U stvarnom životu sve je dinamično,
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meaning that it's changing all the time,
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odnosno sve se neprestano mijenja,
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so the patterns of pulses are changing
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stoga se mijenjaju i obrasci impulsa
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all the time because the world you're
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jer se i svijet koji promatramo
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looking at is changing all the time too.
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neprestano mijenja.
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So, you know, it's sort of a complicated
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Stoga, znate, to je malo komplicirana stvar.
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thing. You have these patterns of pulses
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Imate obrasce električnih impusla
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coming out of your eye every millisecond
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koji svake milisekunde putuju iz vaših očiju
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telling your brain what it is that you're seeing.
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i govore mozgu što vi zapravo vidite.
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So what happens when a person
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No, što se dogodi kada osoba
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gets a retinal degenerative disease like
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oboli od degenerativnih bolesti mrežnice
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macular degeneration? What happens is
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poput makularne degeneracije?
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is that, the front-end cells die,
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Dogodi se sljedeće: završe stanice odumru,
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the photoreceptors die, and over time,
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fotoreceptori odumru, a s vremenom
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all the cells and the circuits that are
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sve stanice i s njima povezani živčani vodovi
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connected to them, they die too.
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također odumiru.
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Until the only things that you have left
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Naposljetku, jedina stvar koja vam preostaje
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are these cells here, the output cells,
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su ove stanice ovdje,
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the ones that send the signals to the brain,
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odvodne stanice - one koje šalju signale u mozak,
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but because of all that degeneration
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no zbog svih nastalih oštećenja,
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they aren't sending any signals anymore.
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one više ne šalju signale.
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They aren't getting any input, so
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Ne primaju nikakve informacije,
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the person's brain no longer gets
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stoga mozak takve osobe
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any visual information --
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više ne prima vizualne informacije,
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that is, he or she is blind.
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tj. on ili ona je slijep/a.
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So, a solution to the problem, then,
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Stoga, rješenje problema bila bi
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would be to build a device that could mimic
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izgradnja uređaja koji bi mogao oponašati
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the actions of that front-end circuitry
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djelatnost završnih stanica
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and send signals to the retina's output cells,
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i slati signale u odvodne stanice mrežnice
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and they can go back to doing their
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koje bi tada mogle obavljati svoju
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normal job of sending signals to the brain.
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normalnu funkciju slanja signala u mozak.
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So this is what we've been working on,
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To je ono na čemu smo radili
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and this is what our prosthetic does.
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i to naš protetski uređaj radi.
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So it consists of two parts, what we call
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Dakle on se sastoji od dva dijela koje mi zovemo
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an encoder and a transducer.
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koder i pretvornik.
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And so the encoder does just
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Koder radi upravo ono
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what I was saying: it mimics the actions
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o čemu sam govorila: on oponaša djelatnost
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of the front-end circuitry -- so it takes images
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frontalnih završnih stanica (fotoreceptora)—
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in and converts them into the retina's code.
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dakle on preuzima slike te ih pretvara u kod mrežnice.
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And then the transducer then makes the
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Zatim pretvarač potiče
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output cells send the code on up
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efektorske (odvodne) stanice na slanje koda
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to the brain, and the result is
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prema mozgu, a rezultat je
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a retinal prosthetic that can produce
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protetička mrežnica koja može proizvesti
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normal retinal output.
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normalne signale poput zdrave mrežnice.
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So a completely blind retina,
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Dakle, potpuno oštećena mrežnica
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even one with no front-end circuitry at all,
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čak i bez aktivnosti završnih stanica,
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no photoreceptors,
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bez fotoreceptora,
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can now send out normal signals,
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sada može slati normalne signale,
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signals that the brain can understand.
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signale koje mozak može razumijeti.
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So no other device has been able
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Dosada niti jedan uređaj
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to do this.
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nije mogao to obavljati.
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Okay, so I just want to take
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OK, samo želim reći
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a sentence or two to say something about
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rečenicu ili dvije o pretvorniku i o tome
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the encoder and what it's doing, because
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što on radi jer
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it's really the key part and it's
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to je zbilja ključni dio
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sort of interesting and kind of cool.
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i zapravo je zanimljiv i super.
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I'm not sure "cool" is really the right word, but
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Nisam sigurna da je “super” prava riječ,
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you know what I mean.
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ali znate na što mislim.
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So what it's doing is, it's replacing
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On zapravo zamjenjuje
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the retinal circuitry, really the guts of
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električnu aktivnost mrežnice
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the retinal circuitry, with a set of equations,
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sa sustavom jednadžbi
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a set of equations that we can implement
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koji možemo ugraditi u čip.
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on a chip. So it's just math.
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Dakle, to je matematika.
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In other words, we're not literally replacing
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Drugim riječima, mi ne nastojimo doslovno zamijeniti
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the components of the retina.
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komponente mrežnice.
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It's not like we're making a little mini-device
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Ne nastojimo napraviti mini-uređaje
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for each of the different cell types.
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koji bi zamijenili različite tipove stanica.
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We've just abstracted what the
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Mi smo samo preveli
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retina's doing with a set of equations.
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djelatnost mrežnice u sustav jednadžbi.
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And so, in a way, the equations are serving
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I, zapravo, te jednadžbe služe
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as sort of a codebook. An image comes in,
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kao knjiga kodova. Kada dolazi slika,
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goes through the set of equations,
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ona prolazi kroz sustav jednadžbi
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and out comes streams of electrical pulses,
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te izlazi kao niz električnih impulsa,
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just like a normal retina would produce.
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baš kao da ga je proizvela normalna mrežnica.
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Now let me put my money
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Dopustite mi da prijeđem na stvar
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where my mouth is and show you that
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i pokažem vam
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we can actually produce normal output,
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da zaista možemo proizvesti normalan izlazni signal
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and what the implications of this are.
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te koje su posljedice toga.
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Here are three sets of
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Ovdje vidite tri uzorka
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firing patterns. The top one is from
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aktivnosti otpuštanja. Gornji je
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a normal animal, the middle one is from
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od normalne životinje, srednji od
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a blind animal that's been treated with
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slijepe životinje
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this encoder-transducer device, and the
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s koder-pretvornikom,
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bottom one is from a blind animal treated
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a donji od slijepe životinje s
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with a standard prosthetic.
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normalnim protetičkim uređajem.
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So the bottom one is the state-of-the-art
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Donji je uzorak najmodernijeg
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device that's out there right now, which is
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dostupnog uređaja danas,
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basically made up of light detectors,
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koji je sačinjen od detektora svjetla,
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but no encoder. So what we did was we
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bez pretvornika.
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presented movies of everyday things --
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Mi smo zapravo pokazali filmove koji prikazuju svakodnevne stvari –
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people, babies, park benches,
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ljude, bebe, klupe u parku,
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you know, regular things happening -- and
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znate, svakodnevne stvari –
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we recorded the responses from the retinas
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i zabilježili smo aktivnost mrežnice
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of these three groups of animals.
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ovih triju grupa žvotinja.
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Now just to orient you, each box is showing
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Samo da vas usmjerim, svaka slika prikazuje
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the firing patterns of several cells,
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uzorak aktivnosti nekoliko stanica,
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and just as in the previous slides,
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i kao i u prijašnjem slajdu,
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each row is a different cell,
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svaki red predstavlja drugačiji tip stanica,
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and I just made the pulses a little bit smaller
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i ja sam samo malo smanjila
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and thinner so I could show you
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i stanjila impulse kako bih vam mogla prikazati
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a long stretch of data.
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izduženi uzorak podataka.
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So as you can see, the firing patterns
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Kao što možete vidjeti, uzorci aktivnosti
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from the blind animal treated with
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mrežnice slijepe životinje s
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the encoder-transducer really do very
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koder-pretvornikom zaista odgovaraju uzorku
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closely match the normal firing patterns --
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aktivnosti mrežnice normalne životinje –
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and it's not perfect, but it's pretty good --
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poklapanje nije savršeno, ali je prilično dobro.
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and the blind animal treated with
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Dok kod slijepe životinje sa
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the standard prosthetic,
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standardim protetičkim uređajem
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the responses really don't.
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poklapanja gotovo i nema.
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And so with the standard method,
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Dakle, koristeći standardnu metodu,
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the cells do fire, they just don't fire
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stanice pokazuju aktivnost,
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in the normal firing patterns because
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ali ne daju normalne uzorke aktivnosti
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they don't have the right code.
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jer nemaju odgovarajući kod.
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How important is this?
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Kolika je važnost toga?
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What's the potential impact
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Kakav je mogući utjecaj
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on a patient's ability to see?
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na vid pacijenata?
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So I'm just going to show you one
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Pokazat ću vam krucijalni pokus
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bottom-line experiment that answers this,
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koji odgovara na prethodna pitanja.
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and of course I've got a lot of other data,
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Naravno, imam još mnogo podataka
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so if you're interested I'm happy
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koje ću vam rado pokazati
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to show more. So the experiment
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ako ste zainteresirani. Dakle, pokus se zove
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is called a reconstruction experiment.
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“pokus rekonstrukcije.”
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So what we did is we took a moment
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Zapravo smo nakratko ostavili
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in time from these recordings and asked,
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ove snimke te se zapitali
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what was the retina seeing at that moment?
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što mrežnica trenutno vidi?
07:02
Can we reconstruct what the retina
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Možemo li rekonstruirati ono što mrežnica
07:04
was seeing from the responses
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vidi na osnovi
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from the firing patterns?
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uzoraka aktivnosti mrežnice.
07:08
So, when we did this for responses
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Dakle, snimlili smo uzorke aktivnosti mrežnice
07:11
from the standard method and from
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pomoću standardne metode
07:14
our encoder and transducer.
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te koder-pretvornika uređaja.
07:16
So let me show you, and I'm going to
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Dopustite mi da vam pokažem,
07:18
start with the standard method first.
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i započet ću sa standardom metodom.
07:20
So you can see that it's pretty limited,
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Dakle možete vidjeti da je prilično ograničena,
07:22
and because the firing patterns aren't
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a kako obrasci aktivnosti nisu
07:24
in the right code, they're very limited in
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pravilno kodirani, vrlo su ograničeni
07:26
what they can tell you about
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u načinu na koji vam govore što vidite.
07:28
what's out there. So you can see that
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Dakle vi vidite nešto,
07:30
there's something there, but it's not so clear
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ali niste sigurni što vidite,
07:32
what that something is, and this just sort of
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a to nas vodi natrag
07:34
circles back to what I was saying in the
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onome o čemu sam govorila na početku,
07:36
beginning, that with the standard method,
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da koristeći standardnu metodu
07:38
patients can see high-contrast edges, they
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pacijenti mogu vidjeti visokokontrastne rubove ,
07:40
can see light, but it doesn't easily go
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mogu vidjeti svjetlo,
07:42
further than that. So what was
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ali ne više od toga.
07:44
the image? It was a baby's face.
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No, što je prikazivala slika? To je bilo lice djeteta.
07:47
So what about with our approach,
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Što se događa kod našeg pristupa
07:49
adding the code? And you can see
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dodavanjem koda?
07:51
that it's much better. Not only can you
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Možete vidjeti da je rezultat mnogo bolji.
07:53
tell that it's a baby's face, but you can
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Ne samo da možete reći da vidite lice djeteta,
07:55
tell that it's this baby's face, which is a
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nego da vidite lice točno ovog djeteta,
07:57
really challenging task.
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što je zbilja veliki izazov.
07:59
So on the left is the encoder
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Lijevo vidite djelovanje samo kodera,
08:01
alone, and on the right is from an actual
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a desno učinak kodera i pretvornika
08:03
blind retina, so the encoder and the transducer.
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kod slijepe mrežnice.
08:05
But the key one really is the encoder alone,
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Ali ključan je zapravo koder
08:07
because we can team up the encoder with
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jer ga možemo kombinirati
08:09
the different transducer.
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s različitim pretvaračima.
08:11
This is just actually the first one that we tried.
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Ovo je prikaz djelovanja prvog koji smo isprobali.
08:13
I just wanted to say something about the standard method.
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Samo želim još nešto reći o standardnoj metodi.
08:15
When this first came out, it was just a really
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Kada se prvi puta pojavila,
08:17
exciting thing, the idea that you
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to je bila vrlo uzbudljiva stvar,
08:19
even make a blind retina respond at all.
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ideja da slijepa mrežnica može reagirati uopće.
08:22
But there was this limiting factor,
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Ali postajao je ograničavajući faktor,
08:25
the issue of the code, and how to make
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problem koda te što učiniti
08:27
the cells respond better,
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da stanice reagiraju bolje,
08:29
produce normal responses,
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da produciraju normalne odgovore,
08:31
and so this was our contribution.
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a ovo je bio naš dobrinos.
08:33
Now I just want to wrap up,
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Da zaključim,
08:35
and as I was mentioning earlier
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a kao što sam ranije spomenula
08:37
of course I have a lot of other data
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imam još mnoštvo ostalih podataka
08:39
if you're interested, but I just wanted to give
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koje vam mogu pokazati ukoliko ste zainteresirani.
08:41
this sort of basic idea
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Željela sam vam prenjeti ideju o tome
08:43
of being able to communicate
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da možemo komunicirati
08:46
with the brain in its language, and
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s mozgom koristeći njegov jezik
08:48
the potential power of being able to do that.
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te o mogućnostima na tom polju.
08:51
So it's different from the motor prosthetics
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To se razlikuje od protetičkih uređaja
08:53
where you're communicating from the brain
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gdje je komunikacija na relaciji mozak – uređaj.
08:55
to a device. Here we have to communicate
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Ovdje se komunikacija
08:57
from the outside world
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vrši između vanjskoga svijeta
08:59
into the brain and be understood,
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i mozga
09:01
and be understood by the brain.
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koji tu komunikaciju podržava.
09:03
And then the last thing I wanted
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Posljednje što želim
09:05
to say, really, is to emphasize
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jest naglasiti
09:07
that the idea generalizes.
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da je ova ideja opća.
09:09
So the same strategy that we used
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Dakle ista strategija koju smo mi koristili
09:11
to find the code for the retina we can also
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u pronalasku koda mrežnice,
09:13
use to find the code for other areas,
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može se iskorisititi u pronalasku kodova u drugim poljima,
09:15
for example, the auditory system and
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naprimjer, u osjetu sluha
09:17
the motor system, so for treating deafness
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ili lokomotornog sustava, dakle u tretiranju gluhoće
09:19
and for motor disorders.
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i bolesti sustava organa za kretanje.
09:21
So just the same way that we were able to
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Na isti način kojim smo prebrodili
09:23
jump over the damaged
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oštećenja
09:25
circuitry in the retina to get to the retina's
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električne aktivnosti mrežnice
09:27
output cells, we can jump over the
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kako bismo dospjeli do efektorskih stanica mrežnice,
09:29
damaged circuitry in the cochlea
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možemo prebroditi oštećenja električne aktivnosti pužnice,
09:31
to get the auditory nerve,
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a kako bismo dospjeli do slušnog živca
09:33
or jump over damaged areas in the cortex,
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odnosno kako bismo izbjegli oštećenja u kori mozga,
09:35
in the motor cortex, to bridge the gap
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u motoričkom dijelu kore mozga,
09:38
produced by a stroke.
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kako bismo preprodili oštećenja uzrokovana moždanom kapi.
09:40
I just want to end with a simple
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Želim završiti jednostavnom porukom
09:42
message that understanding the code
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da je razumijevanje koda,
09:44
is really, really important, and if we
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zbilja, zbilja važno te ukoliko razumijemo kod,
09:46
can understand the code,
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jezik mozga,
09:48
the language of the brain, things become
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stvari koje su se nekada činile
09:50
possible that didn't seem obviously
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nemogućima,
09:52
possible before. Thank you.
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sada su moguće. Hvala vam.
09:54
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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