Keith Schacht & Zach Kaplan: Products (and toys) from the fu

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Zach Kaplan: Keith and I lead a research team.
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We investigate materials and technologies
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that have unexpected properties. Over the last three years,
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we found over 200 of these things, and so we looked
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back into our library and selected six we thought would be most
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surprising for TED.
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Of these six, the first one that we're going to talk about
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is in the black envelope you're holding.
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It comes from a company in Japan called GelTech. Now go ahead and open it up.
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Keith Schacht: Now be sure and take the two pieces apart.
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What's unexpected about this is that it's soft, but it's also a strong magnet.
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Zach and I have always been fascinated
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observing unexpected things like this.
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We spent a long time thinking about why this is, and it's just recently that we realized:
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it's when we see something unexpected,
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it changes our understanding of the way things work.
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As you're seeing this gel magnet for the first time,
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if you assume that all magnets had to be hard,
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then seeing this surprised you and it changed your understanding
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of the way magnets could work.
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ZK: Now, it's important to understand what the unexpected properties are.
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But to really think about the implications of what this makes possible,
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we found that it helps to think about how it could be applied in the world.
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So, a first idea is to use it on cabinet doors.
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If you line the sides of the cabinets using the gel material --
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if a cabinet slams shut it wouldn't make a loud noise,
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and in addition the magnets would draw the cabinets closed.
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Imagine taking the same material, but putting it on the bottom of a sneaker.
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You know, this way you could go to the container store and buy one of those
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metal sheets that they hang on the back of your door, in your closet,
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and you could literally stick your shoes up instead of using a shelf.
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For me, I really love this idea.
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(Laughter)
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If you come to my apartment and see my closet,
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I'm sure you'd figure out why: it's a mess.
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KS: Seeing the unexpected properties and then seeing a couple of
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applications -- it helps you see why this is significant, what the potential is.
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But we've found that the way we present our ideas
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it makes a big difference.
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ZK: It was like six months ago that Keith and I were out in L.A.,
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and we were at Starbucks having coffee with Roman Coppola.
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He works on mostly music videos and commercials
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with his company, The Directors Bureau.
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As we were talking, Roman told us that he's kind of an inventor on the side.
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And we were showing him the same
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gel magnet that you're holding in your hand -- and you know,
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we shared the same ideas. And you could see it in his face:
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Roman starts to get really excited and he whips out this manila folder;
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he opens it up and Keith and I look in,
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and he starts showing us concepts that he's been working on.
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These things just get him really excited. And so we're looking
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at these concepts, and we were just like, whoa, this guy's good.
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Because the way that he presented the concept -- his approach
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was totally different than ours. He sold it to you as if it was for sale right now.
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When we were going in the car back to the airport,
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we were thinking: why was this so powerful?
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And as we thought about it more, we realized that
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it let you fill in all the details about the experience,
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just as if you saw it on TV. So, for TED we decided to take our favorite
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idea for the gel magnet and work with Roman and his team
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at the Directors Bureau to create a commercial for a product
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from the future.
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Narrator: Do you have a need for speed?
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Inventables Water Adventures dares you to launch yourself
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on a magnetically-levitating board down a waterslide
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so fast, so tall, that when you hit the bottom, it uses brakes to stop.
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Aqua Rocket: coming this summer.
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KS: Now, we showed the concept to a few people before this,
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and they asked us, when's it coming out?
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So I just wanted to let you know, it's not actually coming out,
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just the concept is.
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ZK: So now, when we dream up these concepts, it's important for us
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to make sure that they work from a technical standpoint.
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So I just want to quickly explain how this would work.
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This is the magnetically-levitating board that they mentioned in the commercial.
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The gel that you're holding would be lining the bottom of the board.
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Now this is important for two reasons.
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One: the soft properties of the magnet that make it so that, if it were
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to hit the rider in the head, it wouldn't injure him.
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In addition, you can see from the diagram on the right,
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the underpart of the slide would be an electromagnet.
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So this would actually repel the rider a little bit as you're going down.
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The force of the water rushing down, in addition to that repulsion force,
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would make this slide go faster than any slide on the market.
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It's because of this that you need the magnetic braking system.
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When you get to the very bottom of the slide --
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(Laughter)
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-- the rider passes through an aluminum tube.
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And I'm going to kick it to Keith to explain why that's important
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from a technical standpoint.
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KS: So I'm sure all you engineers know that even though aluminum is
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a metal, it's not a magnetic material. But something unexpected
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happens when you drop a magnet down an aluminum tube.
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So we set up a quick experiment here to show that to you.
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(Laughter)
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Now, you see the magnet fell really slowly.
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Now, I'm not going to get into the physics of it,
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but all you need to know is that the faster the magnet's falling,
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the greater the stopping force.
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ZK: Now, our next technology is actually a 10-foot pole,
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and I have it right here in my pocket.
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(Laughter)
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There're a few different versions of it.
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(Laughter)
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KS: Some of them automatically unroll like this one.
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They can be made to automatically roll up, or they can be made
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stable, like Zach's, to hold any position in between.
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ZK: As we were talking to the vendor -- to try to learn about
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how you could apply these, or how they're being applied currently --
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he was telling us that, in the military they use this one
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so soldiers can keep it on their chests -- very concealed --
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and then, when they're out on the field, erect it as an antenna
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to clearly send signals back to the base.
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In our brainstorms, we came up with the idea you could use it for a soccer goal:
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so at the end of the game, you just roll up the goal and put it in your gym bag.
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(Laughter)
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KS: Now, the interesting thing about this is,
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you don't have to be an engineer to appreciate why
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a 10-foot pole that can fit in your pocket is so interesting.
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(Laughter)
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So we decided to go out onto the streets of Chicago
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and ask a few people on the streets what they thought you could do with this.
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Man: I clean my ceiling fans with that and I get the spider webs
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off my house -- I do it that way.
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Woman: I'd make my very own walking stick.
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Woman: I would create a ladder to use to get up on top of the tree.
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Woman: An olive server.
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Man: Some type of extension pole -- like what the painters use.
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Woman: I would make a spear that, when you went deep sea diving,
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you could catch the fish really fast, and then roll it back up,
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and you could swim easier ... Yeah.
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(Laughter)
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ZK: Now, for our next technology we're going to do a little demonstration,
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and so we need a volunteer from the audience.
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You sir, come on up.
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(Laughter)
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Come on up. Tell everybody your name.
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Steve Jurvetson: Steve.
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ZK: It's Steve. All right Steve, now, follow me.
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We need you to stand right in front of the TED sign.
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Right there. That's great.
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And hold onto this. Good luck to you.
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(Laughter)
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KS: No, not yet.
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(Laughter)
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ZK: I'd just like to let you all know that this presentation
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has been brought to you by Target.
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KS: Little bit -- that's perfect, just perfect.
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Now, Zach, we're going to demonstrate
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a water gun fight from the future.
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(Laughter)
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So here, come on up to the front. All right, so
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now if you'll see here -- no, no, it's OK.
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So, describe to the audience the temperature of your shirt. Go ahead.
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SJ: It's cold.
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KS: Now the reason it's cold is that's it's not actually water loaded
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into these squirt guns -- it's a dry liquid developed by 3M.
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It's perfectly clear, it's odorless, it's colorless.
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It's so safe you could drink this stuff.
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(Laughter)
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And the reason it feels cold is because it evaporates
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25 times faster than water.
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(Laughter)
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All right, well thanks for coming up.
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(Laughter)
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ZK: Wait, wait, Steven -- before you go we filled this with the dry liquid
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so during the break you can shoot your friends.
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SJ: Excellent, thank you.
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KS: Thanks for coming up. Let's give him a big round of applause.
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(Applause)
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So what's the significance of this dry liquid?
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Early versions of the fluid were actually used on a Cray Supercomputer.
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Now, the unexpected thing about this
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is that Zach could stand up on stage and drench
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a perfectly innocent member of the audience without any concern
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that we'd damage the electronics, that we'd get him wet,
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that we'd hurt the books or the computers. It works because it's non-conductive.
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So you can see here, you can immerse a whole circuit board
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in this and it wouldn't cause any damage.
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You can circulate it to draw the heat away.
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But today it's most widely used in office buildings --
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in the sprinkler system -- as a fire-suppression fluid.
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Again, it's perfectly safe for people. It puts out the fires, doesn't hurt anything.
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But our favorite idea for this
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was using it in a basketball game. So during halftime,
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it could rain down on the players, cool everyone down,
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and in a matter of minutes it would dry. Wouldn't hurt the court.
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ZK: Our next technology comes to us from a company in Japan
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called Sekisui Chemical. One of their R&D engineers
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was working on a way to make plastic stiffer.
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While he was doing this, he noticed an unexpected thing.
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We have a video to show you.
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KS: So you see there, it didn't bounce back. Now, this was
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an unintended side effect of some experiments they were doing.
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It's technically called, "shape-retaining property."
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Now, think about your interactions with aluminum foil.
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Shape-retaining is common in metal: you bend a piece of aluminum foil,
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and it holds its place. Contrast that with
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a plastic garbage can -- and you can push in the sides
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and it always bounces back.
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ZK: For example, you could make a watch that wraps around your wrist,
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but doesn't use a buckle.
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Taking it a little further, if you wove
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those strips together -- kind of like a little basket -- you could make
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a shape-retaining sheet, and then you could embed it in a cloth:
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so you could make a picnic sheet that wraps around the table,
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so that way on a windy day it wouldn't blow away.
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For our next technology, it's hard to observe
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the unexpected property by itself, because it's an ink.
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So, we've prepared a video to show it applied to paper.
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KS: As this paper is bending, the resistance of the ink changes.
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So with simple electronics, you can detect how much the page is being bent.
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Now, to think about the potential for this,
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think of all the places ink is supplied: on business cards,
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on the back of cereal boxes, board games. Any place you use ink,
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you could change the way you interact with it.
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ZK: So my favorite idea for this is to apply the ink to a book.
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This could totally change the way that you interface with paper.
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You see the dark line on the side and the top. As you turn the pages
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of the book, the book can actually detect what page you're on,
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based on the curvature of the pages.
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In addition, if you were to fold in one of the corners, then you could program
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the book to actually email you the text on the page for your notes.
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KS: For our last technology, we worked again with Roman and his team
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at the Directors Bureau to develop a commercial from the future
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to explain how it works.
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Old Milk Carton: Oh yeah, it smells good.
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Who are you?
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New Milk Carton: I'm New Milk.
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OMC: I used to smell like you.
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Narrator: Fresh Watch, from Inventables Dairy Farms.
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Packaging that changes color when your milk's gone off.
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Don't let milk spoil your morning.
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ZK: Now, this technology was developed by these two guys:
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Professor Ken Suslick and Neil Rakow, of the University of Illinois.
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KS: Now the way it works: there's a matrix of color dyes.
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And these dyes change color in response to odors.
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So the smell of vanilla, that might change the four on the left to brown
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and the one on the right to yellow. This matrix can produce
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thousands of different color combinations to represent thousands of different smells.
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But like in the milk commercial, if you know what odor you want to detect,
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then they can formulate a specific dye to detect just that odor.
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ZK: Right. It was that that started a conversation with Professor Suslick and myself,
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and he was explaining to me the things that this is making possible,
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beyond just detecting spoiled food. It's really where the significance of it lies.
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His company actually did a survey of firemen all across the country to try to learn,
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how are they currently testing the air when they respond to an emergency scene?
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And he kind of comically explained that
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time after time, what the firemen would say is:
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they would rush to the scene of the crime; they would look around;
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if there were no dead policemen, it was OK to go.
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(Laughter)
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I mean, this is a true story. They're using policemen as canaries.
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(Laughter)
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But more seriously, they determined that you could develop
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a device that can smell better than the humans,
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and say if it's safe for the firemen.
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In addition, he's spun off a company from the University called ChemSensing,
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where they're working on medical equipment.
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So, a patient can come in and actually blow into their device.
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By detecting the odor of particular bacteria, or viruses,
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or even lung cancer, the dots will change and they can use
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software to analyze the results.
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This can radically improve the way that doctors diagnose patients.
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Currently, they're using a method of trial and error,
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but this could tell you precisely what disease you have.
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KS: So that was the six we had for you today, but I hope you're starting to see
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why we find these things so fascinating.
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Because every one of these six changed our understanding
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of what was possible in the world. Prior to seeing this,
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we would have assumed: a 10-foot pole couldn't fit in your pocket;
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something as inexpensive as ink couldn't sense the way paper is being bent;
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every one of these things -- and we're constantly trying to find more.
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ZK: This is something that Keith and I really enjoy doing.
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I'm sure it's obvious to you now, but it was actually yesterday
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that I was reminded of why. I was having a conversation
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with Steve Jurvetson, over downstairs by the escalators,
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and he was telling me that when Chris sent out that little box,
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one of the items in it was the hydrophobic sand --
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the sand that doesn't get wet. He said that he was playing with it with his son.
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And you know, his son was mesmerized,
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because he would dunk it in the water, he would take it out
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and it was bone dry. A few weeks later, he said that his son
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was playing with a lock of his mother's hair, and he noticed
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that there were some drops of water on the hair.
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And he took the thing and he looked up to Steve and he said,
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"Look, hydrophobic string."
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(Laughter)
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I mean, after hearing that story -- that really summed it up for me.
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Thank you very much.
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KS: Thank you.
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(Applause)
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