How to teach kids to talk about taboo topics | Liz Kleinrock

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So, a few years ago,
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I was beginning a new unit on race with my fourth-graders.
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And whenever we start a new unit,
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I like to begin by having all the students list everything they know about it,
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and then we also list questions we have.
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And I had the type of moment that every teacher has nightmares about.
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One of my students had just asked the question,
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"Why are some people racist?"
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And another student, let's call her Abby,
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had just raised her hand and volunteered:
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"Maybe some people don't like black people because their skin is the color of poop."
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Yeah, I know.
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So, as if on cue, my entire class exploded.
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Half of them immediately started laughing,
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and the other half started yelling at Abby
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and shouting things like,
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"Oh, my God, you can't say that, that's racist!"
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So just take a second to freeze this scene in your mind.
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There's a class of nine- and ten-year-olds,
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and half of them are in hysterics
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because they think Abby has said something wildly funny,
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and the other half are yelling at her for saying something offensive.
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And then you have Abby, sitting there completely bewildered
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because, in her mind, she doesn't understand the weight of what she said
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and why everybody is reacting this way.
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And then you have me, the teacher,
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standing there in the corner, like, about to have a panic attack.
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So as a classroom teacher,
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I have to make split-second decisions all the time.
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And I knew I needed to react, but how?
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Consider your fight-or-flight instincts.
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I could fight by raising my voice and reprimanding her for her words.
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Or flight -- just change the subject
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and quickly start reaching for another subject,
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like anything to get my students' minds off the word "poop."
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However, as we know, the right thing to do is often not the easy thing to do.
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And as much as I wanted this moment to be over,
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and that I knew both of these options would help me escape the situation,
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I knew that this was far too important of a teachable moment to miss.
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So after standing there for what felt like an eternity,
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I unfroze and I turned to face my class, and I said,
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"Actually, Abby makes a point."
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And my students kind of looked at each other, all confused.
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And I continued,
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"One reason why racism exists
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is because people with light skin have looked at people with dark skin
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and said that their skin was ugly.
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And even use this reason as an excuse to dehumanize them.
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And the reason why we're learning about race and racism in the first place
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is to educate ourselves to know better.
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And to understand why comments like this are hurtful,
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and to make sure that people with dark skin
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are always treated with respect and kindness."
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Now, this was a truly terrifying teachable moment.
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But as we moved forward in the conversation,
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I noticed that both Abby and the rest of the kids
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were still willing to engage.
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And as I watched the conversation really marinate with my students,
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I began to wonder how many of my students have assumptions just like Abby.
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And what happens when those assumptions go unnoticed and unaddressed,
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as they so often do?
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But first, I think it's important to take a step back
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and even consider what makes a topic taboo.
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I don't remember receiving an official list of things
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you're not supposed to talk about.
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But I do remember hearing, over and over, growing up:
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there are two things you do not talk about at family get-togethers.
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And those two things are religion and politics.
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And I always thought this was very curious
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because religion and politics often are such huge influencing factors
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over so many of our identities and beliefs.
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But what makes a topic taboo
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is that feeling of discomfort that arises when these things come up in conversation.
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But some people are extremely fluent in the language of equity,
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while other people fear being PC-shamed
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or that their ignorance will show as soon as they open their mouths.
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But I believe that the first step towards holding conversations
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about things like equity
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is to begin by building a common language.
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And that actually starts with destigmatizing topics
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that are typically deemed taboo.
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Now, conversations around race, for example,
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have their own specific language
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and students need to be fluent in this language
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in order to have these conversations.
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Now, schools are often the only place
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where students can feel free and comfortable
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to ask questions and make mistakes.
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But, unfortunately, not all students feel that sense of security.
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Now, I knew that day in front of my fourth-graders
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that how I chose to respond could actually have life-long implications
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not only for Abby, but for the rest of the students in my class.
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If I had brushed her words aside,
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the rest of the class could actually infer that this type of comment is acceptable.
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But if I had yelled at Abby
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and embarrassed her in front of all of her friends,
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that feeling of shame associated with one of her first conversations on race
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could actually prevent her from ever engaging on that topic again.
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Now, teaching kids about equity in schools is not teaching them what to think.
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It is about giving them the tools and strategies and language
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and opportunities to practice how to think.
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For example, think about how we teach kids how to read.
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We don't start by giving them books.
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We start by breaking down words into letters and sounds
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and we encourage them to practice their fluency by reading every single day,
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with a partner or with their friends.
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And we give them lots of comprehension questions
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to make sure that they're understanding what they're reading.
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And I believe that teaching kids about equity
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should be approached in the exact same way.
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I like to start by giving my students a survey every year,
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about different issues around equity and inclusion.
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And this is a sample survey from one of my kids,
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and as you can see, there's some humor in here.
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For under the question, "What is race?"
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she has written, "When two or more cars, people and animals
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run to see who is fastest and who wins."
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However, if you look at her question, "What is racism?"
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it says, "When somebody says or calls someone dark-skinned a mean name."
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So, she's young, but she's showing that she's beginning to understand.
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And when we act
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like our students aren't capable of having these conversations,
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we actually do them such a disservice.
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Now, I also know that these types of conversations
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can seem really, really intimidating with our students,
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especially with young learners.
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But I have taught first through fifth grades,
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and I can tell you, for example,
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that I'm not going to walk into a first-grade classroom
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and start talking about things like mass incarceration.
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But even a six-year-old first-grader can understand the difference
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between what is fair -- people getting what they need.
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We identified a lot of these things in class together.
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And the difference between fair and equal --
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when everybody gets the same thing,
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especially goody bags at birthday parties.
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Now, first-graders can also understand the difference
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between a punishment and a consequence.
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And all of these things are foundational concepts
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that anyone needs to understand
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before having a conversation
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about mass incarceration in the United States.
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Some people might think that kindergarteners or first-graders
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are too young to have conversations around racism,
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but also tell you that young kids
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understand that there are many different components
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that make up our identities
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and how people are similar and different,
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and what it means to have power when other people don't.
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When we have these conversations with students at a young age,
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it actually takes away some of that taboo feeling
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when those topics come up at a later age.
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I also know that teaching about these things in schools
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can feel like navigating a minefield.
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For example, what happens if parents or families
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aren't on board with having these conversations in schools?
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But to these people, I can say:
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these are some examples of things that students have said to me
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and brought to my attention.
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For example, I had a student come in and whisper to me,
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"I've heard all these people use the term LGBTQ,
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but I don't know what it means and I'm too embarrassed to admit it."
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I had a student come in over a weekend and come up to me and say,
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"You know, I just watched this movie about Australia,
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and it made me wonder if they have racism there, too."
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And I always want my students to be comfortable having these conversations
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because when they're comfortable talking about it and asking questions,
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they also build comfort in bringing in their own lives and experiences
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in how they relate to these big topics.
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Also, some teachers might be kind of nervous
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if a student brings up a topic or asks a question
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and they don't know the answer to it.
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But if a student ever brings something to my attention
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and I don't know the answer,
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I will always admit it and own it
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because I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in something
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that I don't have experience in or I'm not an authority on.
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That same year, I had a student come in
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and ask a question about the LGBTQ community.
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And I just didn't know enough to give them an appropriate answer.
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So instead, I encouraged that student
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to reach out and ask that question to a representative of a nonprofit
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who had come to speak to our class about that very same issue.
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When we admit to our students that we don't have all the answers,
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not only does it humanize us to them,
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it also shows them that adults have a long way to go, too,
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when it comes to learning about issues of equity.
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Now, a little while back, I wrote a lesson about consent.
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And, to some people, this was very exciting
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because I took this topic that seemed very taboo and scary
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and I broke it down into a way that was accessible for young learners.
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However, to other people,
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the idea of consent is so strongly tied to sex,
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and sex is often considered a taboo subject,
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that it made them very uncomfortable.
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But my students are third-graders,
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so we're not talking about sex in class.
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Rather, I wanted them to understand
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that everybody has different physical boundaries
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that make them feel comfortable.
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And the social and emotional intelligence it takes
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to read somebody's words and tone and body language
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are skills that often need to be explicitly taught,
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the same way we teach things like reading and math.
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And this lesson is not reserved for students of one single demographic.
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Things like questioning and making observations
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and critical thinking
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are things that any student of any race or ethnicity
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or background or language or income or zip code should be learning in schools.
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Also, deliberate avoidance of these conversations
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speaks volumes to our students
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because kids notice when their teachers, when their textbooks
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leave out the voices and experiences of people like women or people of color.
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Silence speaks volumes.
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I recently asked my class of third-graders
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what they would say to adults who think they're too young
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to learn about issues of equity.
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And while this is a small sample of my 25 students,
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all of them agreed
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that not only are they capable of having these conversations,
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but they view it, the right to learn it, as a right and not as a privilege.
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And, in their words:
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"We're big enough to know about these things
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because these problems are happening where we live.
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And we have the right to talk about them
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because it will be our life in the future."
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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