History vs. Andrew Jackson - James Fester

與歷史對比下的安德魯‧傑克遜 - 詹姆士‧費斯特

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History vs. Andrew Jackson - James Fester

與歷史對比下的安德魯‧傑克遜 - 詹姆士‧費斯特

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譯者: Harry Chen 審譯者: Geoff Chen
00:06
A national hero? Or public enemy number one?
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是個全國的英雄? 或是國人的頭號敵人呢?
00:10
Historical figures are often controversial,
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歷史人物經常是讓歷史爭議不斷,
00:12
but few were as deified or vilified
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但是很少有人的一生是 如同美國的第七任總統一般
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in their lifetime
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被歷史神格化
00:16
as the seventh President of the United States.
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或是被歷史貶低的,
00:19
This is History vs. Andrew Jackson.
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今天的話題是 《與歷史對比下的上安德魯‧傑克遜》
00:22
"Order, order, hm, uh, what were we...ah yes, Mr. Jackson!
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「肅靜!肅靜!好的,傑克遜先生
00:27
You stand accused of degrading the office of the presidency,
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你今天在這邊是因為被控訴 玷汙了總統的職位,
00:31
causing financial collapse
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造成金融崩潰、
00:33
and wanton cruelty against American Indians.
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還有恣意地殘忍對待美國的印地安人,
00:36
How do you plead?"
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你有什麼要申辯的嗎?」
00:39
"Now, Your Honor, I am not a big city lawyer,
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辯方律師: 「庭上,我不是一個大都市的律師,
00:41
but I do know a few things.
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但是我還是知道一些事情的,
00:43
And I know that President Jackson was
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而我知道傑克遜總統先生以前是
00:45
a self-made frontiersman,
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自願來成為墾荒者的、
00:47
a great general,
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一位傑出的將軍、
00:48
a real man of the people."
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是一個深受民眾愛戴的人!」
00:50
"Your Honor, this 'man of the people' was a gambler,
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控方律師:「庭上,這個受民眾愛戴的人是個賭徒、
00:52
a drunk, and a brawler.
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酒鬼、愛鬧事的人,
00:54
Why, I've heard it said that
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為什麼我還曾經聽過人說
00:55
he would fight at the drop of the hat
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他會毫不猶豫的投入打架,
00:57
and then drop the hat himself.
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之後還丟了自己的官位,
00:58
I ask you,
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我請教您,
00:59
was such a man fit for the most distinguished office in the nation?
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這樣的一個男人配得上 這個國家裡最顯著的辦公室嗎?
01:02
Can we forget the debacle of his inauguration?
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我們能忘記掉在他的就職典禮時 發生的大災難事件嗎?
01:05
Who ever heard of inviting a drunken mob
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有誰曾經聽過邀請酒醉了的暴徒
01:07
into the White House?
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進去白宮裡面?
01:09
It took ages to get the upholstery clean."
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過了好幾年才讓椅子上的顏料變乾淨的。」
01:12
"That drunken mob, sir, was the American people,
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辯方律師:「庭上,這些 酒醉了的暴徒是美國的人民,
01:15
and they deserve to celebrate their victory."
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而且他們夠格來慶祝他們在選舉的勝利。」
01:18
"Order, order! Now, did this celebration have pie?"
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「肅靜!肅靜!這場慶祝會有涉及什麼利益嗎?」
01:21
"Very well. Mr. Jackson, is it not the case
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控方律師:「很好,傑克遜先生,這不就是
01:24
that immediately upon assuming office
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你在就職後立即地
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you introduced the spoils system,
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帶進了連帶利益體系,
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replacing hundreds of perfectly good federal employees
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任用了無法勝任職位的政黨支持者,
01:30
with incompetent party loyalists?"
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來取代好幾百位絕對優秀的聯邦雇員。」
01:33
"Your Honor, the President did no such thing.
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辯方律師:「庭上,總統先生沒做過這種事情,
01:35
He tried to institute rotation in office
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他想要在辦公室採用輪調機制,
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to avoid any profiteering or funny business.
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避免任何牟取利益或是不誠實行為。
01:41
It was the rest of the party
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是黨內的所有其他人
01:42
who insisted on giving posts to their lackeys."
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堅持要給能聽話做事的人一個職位。」
01:45
"But Mr. Jackson complied, did he not?"
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控方律師:「不過傑克遜先生同意了,不是嗎?」
01:48
"Now, uh, see here."
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辯方律師:「嗯,這些我都聽到了」
01:50
"Moving on.
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控方律師:「下一件事
01:51
Mr. Jackson, did you not help to cause
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傑克遜先生, 你沒有促使
01:53
the financial Panic of 1837,
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1837年的金融恐慌的發生嗎?
01:55
and the ensuing economic depression
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以及緊隨著經濟蕭條之後,
01:58
with your obsessive war
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針對「美國銀行」
01:59
against the Bank of the United States?
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發起了一場糾葛不休戰爭,
02:01
Was not vetoing its reauthorization,
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你不是否決了再授權法案嗎?
02:03
as you did in 1832,
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如同你在1832年時做過的事情一樣。
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an act of irresponsible populace pandering
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一個迎合大眾的不負責任行為,
02:08
that made no economic sense?"
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完全沒有經濟上的道理。」
02:10
"Your Honor, the gentleman has quite the imagination.
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辯方律師:「庭上,這位先生想像力豐富,
02:12
That bank was just a way for rich Yanks
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「美國銀行」只是讓有錢的美國人
02:14
to get richer.
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變得更有錢的工具,
02:15
And all that money panic was caused
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一切的金錢恐慌是當時
02:17
when British banks raised interest rates
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「英國銀行」調高利率、
02:19
and cut lending.
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放款減少所引發的,
02:20
To blame it on the President is preposterous, I say."
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我認為歸罪於總統先生 是荒謬無理的。」
02:23
"But if Mr. Jackson had not destroyed the National Bank,
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控方律師:「但是,如果傑克遜先生 沒有摧毀國家的銀行,
02:26
it would have been able to lend to farmers
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當其他銀行都不再借錢出來,
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and businesses when other credit dried up,
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美國銀行早就能借錢給農民、 還有各行各業的生意,
02:31
would it not?"
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不是嗎?」
02:32
"Hm, this is all highly speculative.
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法官大人:「這些東西是過度臆測了!
02:34
Can we move on?"
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我們可以再往下繼續了嗎?」
02:35
"Certainly, Your Honor.
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控方律師:「沒問題的!庭上,
02:36
We now come to Mr. Jackson's
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我們接著講到傑克遜先生
02:38
most terrible offense:
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最惡劣的罪行:
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forcing entire tribes out of their native lands
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透過『印地安人遷移法案』
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via the Indian Removal Act."
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迫使所有的部落 離開他們的棲地。」
02:44
"I resent that accusation, sir.
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辯方律師:「先生,我對你的控訴感到生氣,
02:46
The U.S. of A. bought that land from the Indians
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美國政府從這些印地安人處 買進土地的行為
02:47
fair and square."
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是光明正大的。」
02:49
"Do you call coercion and threats
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控方律師:「你說擁有更強大軍隊的政府,
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by a nation with a far more powerful army
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所做出的強迫和威脅
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fair and square?
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是光明正大的 ?
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Or signing a treaty for removing the Cherokee
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或是和小部分團體簽下條約,
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with a small group that didn't include
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其中不包括實際的部落領袖人物,
02:59
their actual leaders?
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來遷走「切羅基人」
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They didn't have time to properly
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切羅基人在美國軍隊到來,
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supply themselves before the army came
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迫使他們步入「淚水之途」之前,
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and forced them to march the Trail of Tears."
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不夠時間妥善做好準備。」
03:07
"Now, hold on a minute.
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辯方律師:「請等一下,
03:08
This was all Van Buren's doing
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這些事情都是范‧布倫所為,
03:10
after President Jackson left office."
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發生在傑克遜總統先生任期結束之後。」
03:12
"But Mr. Jackson laid the groundwork
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控方律師:「不過,傑克遜先生做好了 所有的事前準備工作,
03:14
and made sure the treaty was ratified.
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而確使這個條約能被正式批准,
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All President Van Buren had to do afterwards
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范‧布倫總統先生之後 所做的一切事情
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was enforce it."
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就是執行政策罷了。」
03:20
"Look here, Your Honor.
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辯方律師:「庭上,請看我這邊,
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Our government's been purchasing
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我們的政府從最早開始就
03:24
Indian land since the beginning,
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一直在購買印地安人的土地,
03:25
and my client was negotiating these deals
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而我的委任人就參與在 協談這些交易的過程裡,
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even before he was President.
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甚至還早在他當總統之前。
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President Jackson truly believed
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傑克遜總統先生真心相信
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it was best for the Indians
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這是對印地安人來說最好的事情,
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to get compensated for their land
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用他們的土地換得了報償,
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and move out West,
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然後般離美國西部,
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where there was plenty of space
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搬到有大量空間的地方
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for them to keep living
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讓他們繼續過日子,
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the way they were accustomed,
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用他們所習慣的方式生活,
03:38
rather than stick around
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好過死守留下
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and keep butting heads with the white settlers.
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而繼續與白人殖民者爆發衝突,
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Some of whom, I remind our court,
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庭上,讓我提醒你,部分的殖民者
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wanted to exterminate them outright.
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想要徹底消滅這些住民,
03:45
It was a different time."
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那是一個很不同的時空背景。」
03:46
"And yet, even in this different time,
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控方律師:「然而,就算在這麼不同的時空背景,
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there were many in Congress
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國會裡頭有許多人,
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and even the Supreme Court
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還有甚至是最高法院,
03:51
who saw how wrong the Removal Act was
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都清楚『遷移法案』是不對的,
03:53
and loudly opposed it,
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而且激烈反對『遷移法案』,
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were there not?"
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不是這樣子嗎?」
03:56
"My client was under a great deal of pressure.
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辯方律師:「我的委任人承受了巨大的壓力,
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I say, do you think it's easy
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你認為掌理這麼偉大的國家,
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governing such a huge country
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還要保持各州團結在一起
04:02
and keeping the Union together,
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是輕鬆的一件事情嗎?
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when states are fixing to nullify
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當各州不斷想要
04:05
federal laws?
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讓聯邦法律失效,
04:06
President Jackson barely got South Carolina
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傑克遜總統先生無法得到南卡羅那州
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to back down over those import tariffs,
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支持進關稅,
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and then Georgia had to go discover gold
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之後喬治亞州要探採黃金
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and start grabbing up Cherokee land.
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就開始不停奪取「切羅基人」的土地,
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It was either get the Indians to move
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這既使得印地安人要離開土地,
04:16
or get in another fight with a state government."
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還要和州政府打一場仗。」
04:19
"So, you admit that Mr. Jackson
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控方律師:「這麼說來你承認傑克遜先生
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sacrified moral principles to achieve
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犧牲正當行為的準則來達成
04:22
some political goals?"
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部分的政治目的嗎?」
04:24
"I do declare, show me one leader who hasn't."
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辯方律師:「真是奇怪,那麼你找出一位不這麼 做事的領導者給我看。」
04:27
As societies change and morals evolve,
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當社會更迭和正當行為準則演進,
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yesterday's hero may become
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過去的英雄可能就會變成
04:30
tomorrow's villain, or vice versa.
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未來的惡棍,反之亦然。
04:33
History may be past,
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歷史將會過去
04:35
but our understanding of it is always on trial.
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但是我們對它的瞭解 總是在辯論之中沒有答案。
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