English Listening Practice: British English Podcast - The Gaming World

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English Like A Native


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚

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ใ‚ขใƒณใƒŠ: ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ ไธญ็ดšใŠใ‚ˆใณไธŠ็ดšใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ๅ‘ใ‘ใฎ
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Hello, listeners, welcome back to the English Like a Native Podcast.
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ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚English Like a Native ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใธใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚
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We are on Episode 50, so I thought, why not, with this fantastic
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ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ 50 ใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใ“ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„
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milestone, talk about addiction.
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็ฏ€็›ฎใซใ€ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใฏใ„ใ‹ใŒใ‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
00:47
Are you a gamer?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚ฒใƒผใƒžใƒผใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
00:50
Do you play video games?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใง้Šใถ๏ผŸ
00:53
Do you have a PlayStation, a Nintendo Switch, an Xbox?
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PlayStationใ€Nintendo Switchใ€Xbox ใ‚’ใŠๆŒใกใงใ™ใ‹?
00:59
Perhaps you play games on your PC or mobile phone.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€PC ใพใŸใฏๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใงใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
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Now whether you participate in video games or not, you likely know
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใชใใ€
01:09
someone who does, with 3.9 billion active video gamers worldwide.
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ไธ–็•Œไธญใง 39 ๅ„„ไบบใฎใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใชใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚’ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
01:18
In general, gaming is thought of as being pretty cool.
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ไธ€่ˆฌใซใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:23
Yeah. Gaming is thought of as being pretty cool.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:25
If you're a talented gamer, then you almost automatically
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆ‰่ƒฝใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒžใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใปใผ่‡ชๅ‹•็š„ใซ
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gain the respect of the masses.
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ๅคง่ก†ใฎๅฐŠๆ•ฌใ‚’ๅพ—ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
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And some of the most popular and successful YouTubers are gaming YouTubers.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆœ€ใ‚‚ไบบๆฐ—ใŒใ‚ใ‚ŠๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹YouTuberใฎไธญใซใฏใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ YouTuberใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
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For example, PewDiePie has over 110 million followers.
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€PewDiePie ใซใฏ 1 ๅ„„ 1,000 ไธ‡ไบบใ‚’่ถ…ใˆใ‚‹ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒฏใƒผใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:46
Which certainly beats my 920,000 followers by a long way.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใ็งใฎ92ไธ‡ไบบใฎใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒญใƒฏใƒผใ‚’ใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ใซไธŠๅ›žใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
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And it's not just YouTubers.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚ŒใฏYouTuberใ ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:53
Gaming also has many associations with sports and athletes,
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ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซใฏใ€
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which are, you know, cool.
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ใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใชใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใ‚„ใ‚ขใ‚นใƒชใƒผใƒˆใจใฎ้–ข้€ฃๆ€งใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
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The famous sprinter, Usain Bolt once revealed that he was hooked on
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ๆœ‰ๅใช็Ÿญ่ท้›ข้ธๆ‰‹ใฎใ‚ฆใ‚ตใ‚คใƒณใƒปใƒœใƒซใƒˆใฏใ‹ใคใฆใ€ใ‚ณใƒผใƒซ ใ‚ชใƒ– ใƒ‡ใƒฅใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซๅคขไธญใง
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the game Call of Duty and that he couldn't go to bed without playing it.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ›ใšใซใฏๅฏใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใจๆ˜Žใ‹ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
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He even went as far in one interview as to state that the
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ๅฝผใฏใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใงใ€ใ“ใฎ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†ใ‚’ๅ‹่€…ใซๅฐŽใ„ใŸ
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game helped make him a winner.
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ใจใพใง่ฟฐในใŸ ใ€‚
02:20
Now, to be hooked on something means to be addicted to it.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
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So if you are hooked or hooked on something, then you're addicted to it.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใซๅคขไธญใซใชใฃใŸใ‚ŠใƒใƒžใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไธญๆฏ’ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
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You can't stop consuming it.
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ๆถˆ่ฒปใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
02:36
You can be hooked on anything.
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ไฝ•ไบ‹ใซใ‚‚ๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
02:38
You can be hooked on an activity or a show, a substance, or even a
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ใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ“ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚„็•ช็ต„ใ€็‰ฉ่ณชใ€ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใฏใใฎ
02:44
person if you like them that much.
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ไบบใŒๅฅฝใใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใใ‚Œใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚
02:48
For example, if I try a new sport like netball, and I enjoy it so much
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ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซๆŒ‘ๆˆฆใ—ใฆใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใฎใงใ€
02:55
that I instantly know that I'm going to take this sport very seriously,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซ็œŸๅ‰ฃใซๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚€ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใ ใจใ™ใใซใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใ€
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so I buy all the kit, I attend as many practice sessions as I can,
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ใ‚ญใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’ใ™ในใฆ่ณผๅ…ฅใ—ใ€ใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ๅคšใใฎ็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚ปใƒƒใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ€
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and I sign up for every competition.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏใ™ในใฆใฎใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใ‚นใƒˆใซใ‚ตใ‚คใƒณใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:09
Then I might say,
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03:11
"From the moment I set foot on the netball court, I was hooked."
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ใ€Œใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒซใ‚ณใƒผใƒˆใซ่ถณใ‚’่ธใฟๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸ็žฌ้–“ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๅคขไธญใซใชใฃใŸใ€ใจ ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
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"I am hooked on netball."
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ใ€‚ ใ€Œ็งใฏใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒซใซๅคขไธญใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€
03:19
Now, in this example, to be hooked on netball doesn't seem that bad.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎไพ‹ใงใฏใ€ใƒใƒƒใƒˆใƒœใƒผใƒซใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:25
Being addicted to a sport is a good thing, right?
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ใ‚นใƒใƒผใƒ„ใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
03:30
But is it healthy to be hooked on video games?
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅฅๅบทใซ่‰ฏใ„ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
03:35
And what's the difference between a love of gaming and an addiction to gaming?
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ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใธใฎๆ„›ๆƒ…ใจใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใฎ้•ใ„ใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
03:43
Now, my earliest memory of a computer game was from when I was at primary school.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใŒใ‚ณใƒณใƒ”ใƒฅใƒผใ‚ฟใƒผ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซใคใ„ใฆๆœ€ๅˆใซ่ฆšใˆใŸใฎใฏใ€ๅฐๅญฆ็”Ÿใฎๆ™‚ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:52
I would go to my friend's house occasionally after school, and
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ๆ”พ่ชฒๅพŒใซๆ™‚ใ€…ๅ‹้”ใฎๅฎถใซ่กŒใใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€
03:56
she had an Atari gaming console.
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ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ Atari ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ  ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ฝใƒผใƒซใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:59
Now, this is a really old console that you had to insert a cassette tape into,
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซๅคใ„ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ฝใƒผใƒซใงใ€ใ‚ซใ‚ปใƒƒใƒˆใƒ†ใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ๆŒฟๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
04:07
and so you put in the cassette and you would start the loading process, and
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04:13
I have this very clear memory of just waiting for this thing to load the game.
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04:18
It would take probably about 15 to 20 minutes to load the game and there were
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ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใซใฏใŠใใ‚‰ใ 15 ๏ฝž 20 ๅˆ†ใปใฉใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใ€
04:23
all these funny noises going on, all this.
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ใŠใ‹ใ—ใชใƒŽใ‚คใ‚บใŒ็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:27
And then you would get to the point where the game would load.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใซๅˆฐ้”ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:34
You're like, finally, let's play.
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04:36
I remember the game I was obsessed with at the time was Bomb Jack, where this
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ๅฝ“ๆ™‚็งใŒๅคขไธญใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏใ€Œใƒœใƒ ใ‚ธใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ใงใ€ใ“ใฎ
04:41
little chap had to go around and collect all the bombs within a certain time.
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ๅฐใ•ใช็”ทใฎๅญใŒไธ€ๅฎšๆ™‚้–“ๅ†…ใซใ™ในใฆใฎ็ˆ†ๅผพใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:47
The problem was, besides having to wait for so long for the game to load
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ๅ•้กŒใฏใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฎใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใซ้•ทๆ™‚้–“ๅพ…ใŸใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใซๅŠ ใˆใฆใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚’
04:52
was it would crash within minutes of starting to play the game and the whole
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้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•ฐๅˆ†ไปฅๅ†…ใซใ‚ฏใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใ—ใฆๅ…จไฝ“ใŒใƒ•ใƒชใƒผใ‚บใ—ใ€ ใ‚ซใ‚ปใƒƒใƒˆใƒ†ใƒผใƒ—ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šๅ‡บใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ใƒžใ‚ทใƒณใฎ
05:00
thing would freeze and you'd have to take out the cassette tape, unplug
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05:04
the machine, plug it all back in, put the cassette back in and reload.
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05:09
Oh, it was a disaster.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ฝ้›ฃใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰
05:13
So it is understandable that we avoided having a gaming addiction
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ใ€็งใŒๅฐๅญฆ็”Ÿใฎ้ ƒใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†็†็”ฑใงใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ 
05:19
when I was at primary school because the games just took too long.
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ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’้ฟใ‘ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใฏ็†่งฃใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚
05:23
It took too long to load and it was boring.
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ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใซๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใฆ้€€ๅฑˆใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
05:26
So we easily got distracted and went to play with sticks
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ใใ‚Œใง็งใŸใกใฏใ™ใใซๆฐ—ใŒๆ•ฃใฃใฆใ—ใพใ„ใ€ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซๆฃ’ใ‚„็Ÿณใ‚„ใƒœใƒผใƒซใง้Šใณใซ่กŒใใพใ—ใŸ
05:30
and stones and balls instead.
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05:33
But that was my earliest memory.
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05:34
And then once I hit probably 12 or 13 years old, I got my first console.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ 12 ๆญณใ‹ 13 ๆญณใซใชใ‚‹ใจใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ฝใƒผใƒซใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
05:43
My first console was a Sega.
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็งใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ๆฉŸใฏใ‚ปใ‚ฌใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
05:46
I think it was the Sega Mega Drive.
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ใ‚ปใ‚ฌใฎใƒกใ‚ฌใƒ‰ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:48
I got it for my birthday and I was so excited because at that time I had a
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่ช•็”Ÿๆ—ฅใซใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใจใฆใ‚‚ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ‹ใฃใŸใงใ™ใ€‚
05:53
little tiny TV screen in my bedroom that I could hook my console into.
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05:58
So I could just close the door and shut the world out and just be alone in my
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ‰ใ‚ขใ‚’้–‰ใ‚ใฆไธ–็•Œใ‚’ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒƒใƒˆใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใ—ใฆใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ
06:05
room, playing on my Sega Mega Drive.
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้ƒจๅฑ‹ใงไธ€ไบบใซใชโ€‹โ€‹ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ปใ‚ฌใฎใƒกใ‚ฌใƒ‰ใƒฉใ‚คใƒ–ใงใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:08
And the game that I got at that time was Sonic the Hedgehog.
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ใใฎๆ™‚ใซๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒใ€Žใ‚ฝใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒปใ‚ถใƒปใƒ˜ใƒƒใ‚ธใƒ›ใƒƒใ‚ฐใ€ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:13
So there was lots of time spent with this blue spiky hedgehog jumping
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ“ใฎ้’ใ„ใจใŒใฃใŸใƒใƒชใƒใ‚บใƒŸใŒ้ฃ›ใณ่ทณใญใฆ้‡‘ใฎๆŒ‡่ผชใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅคšใใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
06:18
around collecting golden rings.
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06:21
And then after that I have memories of being a teenager.
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ใใ—ใฆใใฎๅพŒใ€็งใฏๅไปฃใฎ้ ƒใฎ่จ˜ๆ†ถใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:28
And my very first serious boyfriend had a PlayStation and he was a real
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎ็œŸๅ‰ฃใชใƒœใƒผใ‚คใƒ•ใƒฌใƒณใƒ‰ใฏใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๅฝผใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็œŸๅ‰ฃใชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒžใƒผใ ใฃใŸ
06:36
serious gamer, so he had a PlayStation with lots of games, including
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ใฎใงใ€ ใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใƒ ใƒฌใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใ‚„007ใ‚ดใƒผใƒซใƒ‡ใƒณใ‚ขใ‚ค
06:41
Tomb Raider and 007 GoldenEye.
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ใ‚’ๅซใ‚€ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒๅ…ฅใฃใŸใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
06:48
He had many other games, but these are the two that we played a lot, and I
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06:53
remember that was the first time I felt like perhaps gaming could be unhealthy.
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ใใฎใจใใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏไธๅฅๅบทใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจๅˆใ‚ใฆๆ„Ÿใ˜ใŸใฎใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:00
Because we would spend our entire weekend during the summer...
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07:06
we'd spend an entire weekend where we could have been outdoors socialising,
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07:11
we would spend the entire week locked away in a very small kind
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ไธญใ€ๅฝผใฎๅฏๅฎคใงใ‚ใ‚‹้žๅธธใซๅฐใ•ใชใƒœใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใƒซใƒผใƒ ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ ดๆ‰€
07:16
of box room, which was his bedroom.
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ใซ้–‰ใ˜่พผใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆ้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
07:19
So we'd lock the door.
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07:22
Well not lock.
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07:22
We weren't allowed to lock the door.
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒ‰ใ‚ขใซ้ตใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่จฑใ•ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:24
We were teenagers.
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07:27
Our parents were like,
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07:27
"What are you doing in there?
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ใ€Œใใ“ใงไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
07:29
Don't lock the door."
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ใƒ‰ใ‚ขใซ้ตใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‹ใชใ‚ˆใ€
07:31
So, we'd shut the door and we closed the curtains because we
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07:36
didn't want to let the world in.
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ๅค–ใฎไธ–็•Œใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใŸใ
07:38
I mean, realistically, it was probably because the sunlight was reflecting
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ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใƒ‰ใ‚ขใ‚’้–‰ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ซใƒผใƒ†ใƒณใ‚’้–‰ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็พๅฎŸ็š„ใซใฏใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใๅคช้™ฝๅ…‰ใŒ
07:42
off the screen, and so we didn't want to affect the gameplay whatsoever.
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07:49
So we would shut out the day by closing the curtains and we'd
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07:53
closed the door and shut out our parents and annoying siblings.
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ใƒ‰ใ‚ขใ‚’้–‰ใ‚ใฆไธก่ฆชใ‚„่ฟทๆƒ‘ใชๅ…„ๅผŸใ‚’็ท ใ‚ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
07:59
And then just focus on playing games all day, both Saturday and Sunday.
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ใใ—ใฆๅœŸๆ›œใ‚‚ๆ—ฅๆ›œใ‚‚ไธ€ๆ—ฅไธญใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
08:06
And we probably played late on Friday night as well.
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ใใ—ใฆใŠใใ‚‰ใ้‡‘ๆ›œใฎๅคœ้…ใใพใงใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:09
And so the entire weekend was just staring at this little TV screen
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€้€ฑๆœซไธญใšใฃใจใ€
08:13
playing the same thing over and over and over and over again.
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ๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚ไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚ไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ๆตใ™ใ“ใฎๅฐใ•ใชใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“็”ป้ขใ‚’ใŸใ ่ฆ‹ใคใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:17
We would emerge from our little cave in order to go and get a cheese sandwich and
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒใƒผใ‚บใ‚ตใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒƒใƒใจ ใƒใƒ†ใƒˆใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚นใฎ่ข‹ใ‚’ ๅ–ใ‚Šใซ่กŒใใŸใ‚ใซๅฐใ•ใชๆดž็ชŸใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ‡บใพใ—ใŸ
08:23
a bag of crisps, but it was at a push, like we would be starving by that point.
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ใŒใ€ใใฎๆ™‚็‚นใงใŠ่…นใŒ็ฉบใ„ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใใ†ใชใปใฉใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฃใƒผใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:28
So we'd come out wide-eyed and hungry and grunting for food.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏ็›ฎใ‚’ไธธใใ—ใฆใ€ใŠ่…นใ‚’็ฉบใ‹ใ›ใฆใ€้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใฆใ†ใ‚ใๅฃฐใ‚’ไธŠใ’ใฆๅ‡บใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:33
"Hungry.
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ใ€ŒใŠ่…นใŒ็ฉบใ„ใŸใ€‚
08:35
Give me food."
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้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ€
08:37
And I remember thinking, this is really not good.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ˆใใชใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใฎใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:40
I don't feel good.
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ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒ่‰ฏใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
08:42
I feel groggy.
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ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒใ‚‚ใ†ใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:43
My eyes hurt.
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็›ฎใŒ็—›ใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
08:44
I've got a headache.
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้ ญใŒ็—›ใ„ใ€‚
08:45
I'm thirsty.
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ๅ–‰ใŒๆธ‡ใ„ใŸใ€‚
08:46
I'm not moving my body.
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ไฝ“ใ‚’ๅ‹•ใ‹ใ—ใฆใชใ„ใ‚“ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:48
I feel pretty gross.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆฐ—ๆŒใกๆ‚ชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:51
And it's because I can't stop playing this game.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใ“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:55
And even knowing that it made me feel bad and I should probably do something else,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใ‚’ๆ‚ชใใ—ใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใไฝ•ใ‹ไป–ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใŸใปใ†ใŒใ‚ˆใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ€
08:59
I just couldn't peel myself away from, from the, the doing this with my fingers.
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็งใฏๆŒ‡ใงใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใ‹ใ‚‰่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’ๅผ•ใ้›ขใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:09
What do you call it?
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ไฝ•ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
09:10
Uh, controller.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒญใƒผใƒฉใƒผใ€‚
09:11
I couldn't peel my fingers off the controller.
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ใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒญใƒผใƒฉใƒผใ‹ใ‚‰ๆŒ‡ใ‚’้›ขใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:14
They were glued to my hands.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ็งใฎๆ‰‹ใซใใŽไป˜ใ‘ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:18
Oh, terrible.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใฒใฉใ„ใ€‚
09:20
So I was definitely addicted.
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็งใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใไธญๆฏ’ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:22
How did I break that addiction?
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ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆใใฎไพๅญ˜็—‡ใ‚’ๆ–ญใกๅˆ‡ใฃใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
09:25
Well, I broke up with my boyfriend.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๅฝผๆฐใจๅˆฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:29
I broke up with my boyfriend.
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ๅฝผๆฐใจๅˆฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:30
Or did he break up with me?
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ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ๅฝผใฏ็งใจๅˆฅใ‚ŒใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
09:32
I think maybe it was mutual.
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ใŸใถใ‚“ใŠไบ’ใ„ๆง˜ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
09:34
We had a big fallout.
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ๅคงใใชๅฝฑ้ŸฟใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:36
We broke up with each other.
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็งใŸใกใฏใŠไบ’ใ„ใซๅˆฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:38
And because it was his PlayStation and he was the one I played with all
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใŒใ„ใคใ‚‚ไธ€็ท’ใซ้Šใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸไบบใ ใฃใŸใฎใง
09:42
the time, I just stopped playing for a while and then life got in the way.
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ใ€็งใฏใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใฎๅพŒใ€็”Ÿๆดปใซๆ”ฏ้šœใŒๅ‡บใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
09:48
You know a young teenager heading out into the world trying to find your
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่‹ฅใ„ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใƒณใ‚จใ‚คใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใŒไธ–็•Œใธๅ‡บใฆใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ
09:53
place, trying to, you know, find work so that you had some money, and then
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ๅฑ…ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ€ใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’็จผใใŸใ‚ใซไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰
09:58
trying to find places to live and figure out what you're gonna do with your
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ไฝใ‚€ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใŠ้‡‘ใ‚’ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹่€ƒใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’
10:02
life, what your career path should be.
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็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ไบบ็”Ÿใ€ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒชใ‚ขใƒ‘ใ‚นใฏใฉใ†ใ‚ใ‚‹ในใใ‹ใ€‚
10:05
So gaming kind of went on the back burner, and I'm glad it did.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏๅพŒๅ›žใ—ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใ†ใชใฃใฆใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:11
There were some moments.
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็žฌ้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:12
I remember being at university and having a little bit of a penchant for
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็งใฏๅคงๅญฆใซ้€šใฃใฆใ„ใŸใจใ ใ€PC ไธŠใซใ‚ใฃใŸ Mineease(er)
10:18
Minesweep(er), which was on the PC.
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ใซๅฐ‘ใ—่ˆˆๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
10:21
Spending probably a little bit too long playing that game.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใพใ™ใ€‚
10:26
When, I should have been doing like my thesis, doing my work for university.
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่ซ–ๆ–‡ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ€ๅคงๅญฆใฎไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ในใใ ใฃใŸใจใใ€‚
10:33
But yes, that was that.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:34
And then with one of the phones that came out, I can't remember
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็™บๅฃฒใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ้›ป่ฉฑๆฉŸใฎ 1 ใคใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€ใƒขใƒ‡ใƒซใฏๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“
10:37
the model, but with one of the phones, someone listening will know.
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ใŒใ€้›ป่ฉฑๆฉŸใฎ 1 ใคใซใคใ„ใฆใฏใ€่žใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใชใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
10:42
With one of the phones, there's a game called Snake, which I was
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ๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใฎ 1 ใคใซ Snake ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€็งใฏ
10:46
quite addicted to playing that.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‹ใชใ‚Šๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:49
But nothing was ever as bad as the GoldenEye and the Tomb Raider years.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ดใƒผใƒซใƒ‡ใƒณใ‚ขใ‚คใจใƒˆใ‚ฅใƒผใƒ ใƒฌใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใฎๆ™‚ไปฃใปใฉใฒใฉใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
10:55
I'm pleased to say.
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ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
10:57
So, you know, I had my little dalliance, my little dilly dally.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็ŸฅใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€็งใซใฏๅฐใ•ใช้Šใณใ€ๅฐใ•ใชๆฅฝใ—ใ„้ŠใณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:05
I had my little dilly dally with a gaming addiction, but luckily I pulled myself
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็งใฏใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใงๅฐ‘ใ—้€€ๅฑˆใชๆ—ฅใ€…ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ๅนธ้‹ใชใ“ใจใซใ€
11:09
away from the brink of addiction despair.
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ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹็ตถๆœ›ใฎๆทตใ‹ใ‚‰่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’ๆ•‘ใ„ๅ‡บใ™ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
11:15
And now as a mother, I'm slightly nervous about my sons becoming addicted
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใฏๆฏ่ฆชใจใ—ใฆใ€ๆฏๅญใŸใกใŒ
11:21
to video games when they are older.
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ๅคงใใใชใฃใŸใจใใซใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซๅคขไธญใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใ‹ใจๅฐ‘ใ—ไธๅฎ‰ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
11:24
Because gaming now has advanced way beyond where it was back in the 80s, early 90s.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ไปŠใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏ 80 ๅนดไปฃใ‚„ 90 ๅนดไปฃๅˆ้ ญใฎ้ ƒใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใฏใ‚‹ใ‹ใซ้€ฒๆญฉใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:32
Gaming is incredible and there's so much out there.
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ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใปใฉ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใใ€ไธ–ใฎไธญใซใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
11:35
There are so many consoles, so many games, so many ways to access gaming.
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้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ฝใƒผใƒซใ€้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎ้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
11:41
You could be anywhere and you can be playing a game online, offline, with
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ใฉใ“ใซใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใ‚‚ใ‚ชใƒ•ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใ‚‚ใ€
11:46
a phone, a tablet, with any device connected to the internet or not.
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ๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚„ใ‚ฟใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใƒˆใชใฉใ€ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒผใƒใƒƒใƒˆใซๆŽฅ็ถšใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใซ้–ขไฟ‚ใชใใ€ใฉใฎใƒ‡ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใงใ‚‚ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใงใใพใ™
11:51
It is just...
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใฏใŸใ ...
11:53
It's so accessible.
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ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:56
And I can just see it now, the two of my boys locked away in their man
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€็งใฎๆฏๅญ2ไบบใŒ็”ทใฎๆดž็ชŸใซ้–‰ใ˜่พผใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œ
12:01
caves, gaming for hours on end with a sign on the door saying, "Keep Out".
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ใ€ใƒ‰ใ‚ขใซใ€Œ็ซ‹ใกๅ…ฅใ‚Š็ฆๆญขใ€ใจๆ›ธใ‹ใ‚ŒใŸๆœญใ‚’ไป˜ใ‘ใฆไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:08
And me, at my wits end, wondering how I can coax them out of their rooms for
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏ้€”ๆ–นใซๆšฎใ‚Œใ€ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’้ƒจๅฑ‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใฆใ€
12:14
some fresh air, food, and exercise.
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ๆ–ฐ้ฎฎใช็ฉบๆฐ—ใ€้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ€้‹ๅ‹•ใ‚’ใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:19
This is the reality that many parents face, and it's a problem that we can't
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๅคšใใฎ่ฆชใŒ็›ด้ขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็พๅฎŸใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
12:24
easily solve, given that this gaming world is the new norm for socialising,
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฎไธ–็•ŒใŒ็คพไบคใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆจ™ๆบ–ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
12:32
many games are played online, connecting people from all over the world.
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ๅคšใใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใŒใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ•ใ‚Œใ€ไธ–็•Œไธญใฎไบบใ€…ใจใคใชใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใ€็งใŸใกใซใฏ็ฐกๅ˜ใซ่งฃๆฑบใงใใชใ„ๅ•้กŒใงใ™ใ€‚
12:37
Many kids hang out with their school friends online after
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ๅคšใใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฏใ€ๆ”พ่ชฒๅพŒใซๅญฆๆ กใฎๅ‹้”ใจใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง
12:41
school while playing these games.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใชใŒใ‚‰้Šใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
12:44
So how can you tell your 13-year-old that they can't spend time with their
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ใงใฏ ใ€็คพไผš็š„้›†ๅ›ฃใŒใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใพใจใพใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ€
12:47
friends if that's the way that their social group is coming together?
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13 ๆญณใฎๅญใฉใ‚‚ใซใ€ๅ‹้”ใจไธ€็ท’ใซๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ™ใ“ใจใฏใงใใชใ„ใจใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ่จ€ใˆใฐใ‚ˆใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹
12:53
On the other hand, gaming gives players an opportunity to learn many skills
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? ไธ€ๆ–นใงใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏใƒ—ใƒฌใƒผใƒคใƒผใซ
12:59
around logic and problem solving.
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ใƒญใ‚ธใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚„ๅ•้กŒ่งฃๆฑบใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ๅคšใใฎใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใ‚’ๅญฆใถๆฉŸไผšใ‚’ไธŽใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
13:02
Minecraft, for example, teaches coding and many team player games
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€Minecraft ใงใฏใ‚ณใƒผใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ๅคšใใฎใƒใƒผใƒ  ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใƒคใƒผ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใงใฏ
13:09
require, you guessed it, teamwork, which is an important life skill.
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ใ€ใ”ๆƒณๅƒใฎใจใŠใ‚Šใ€้‡่ฆใชใƒฉใ‚คใƒ• ใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใƒใƒผใƒ ใƒฏใƒผใ‚ฏใŒๅฟ…่ฆใจใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:19
My children are two and a half and four and a half, closer to five.
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็งใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฏ2ๆญณๅŠใจ4ๆญณๅŠใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ใ™ใ5ๆญณใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
13:26
And I recently bought them their own iPads.
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ใใ—ใฆๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใซ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎiPadใ‚’่ฒทใฃใฆใ‚ใ’ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
13:30
Now, I agonised over this decision for a while because screens, especially
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใฏใ“ใฎๆฑบๅฎšใซใคใ„ใฆใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใๆ‚ฉใฟใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็‰นใซ
13:36
for younger children are not good.
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ๅนผใ„ๅญไพ›ใซใจใฃใฆใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒณใฏ่‰ฏใใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
13:38
They need to be interacting with the world and building, you know, skills
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏไธ–็•Œใจๅฏพ่ฉฑใ—ใ€
13:42
physically and, and developing in a very natural way, but, screens can
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่บซไฝ“็š„ใŠใ‚ˆใณ่‡ช็„ถใชๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใ‚’ๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ—ใ€้–‹็™บใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒผใƒณใฏ
13:51
be very useful if used moderately.
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้ฉๅบฆใซไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚Œใฐ้žๅธธใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
13:56
And I really wanted my older son to have an iPad, but I can't give one without the
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏไธŠใฎๆฏๅญใซiPadใ‚’ๆŒใŸใ›ใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€
14:02
other because anyone with children will know it just causes chaos in my house.
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ๅญไพ›ใ‚’ๆŒใคไบบใชใ‚‰่ชฐใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฎถใซๆททไนฑใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใ ใ‘ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๆ–นใ‚’ ๆŒใŸใšใซ็‰‡ๆ–นใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“
14:09
If one child has a toy that is super-duper, the other child must
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ใ€‚ 1ไบบใฎๅญไพ›ใŒ่ถ…ไธ€ๆตใฎใŠใ‚‚ใกใ‚ƒใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ใ‚‚ใ†1ไบบใฎๅญไพ›ใ‚‚
14:14
have it and all hell will break loose if that situation ever occurs.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆŒใŸใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใšใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใช็ŠถๆณใŒ็™บ็”Ÿใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใ™ในใฆใฎๅœฐ็„ใŒ่งฃใๆ”พใŸใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
14:20
So I thought, well, I can't buy one without the other.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๆ–นใŒใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐไธ€ๆ–นใ‚’่ฒทใ†ใ“ใจใฏใงใใชใ„ใ€ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
14:22
I must get them each an iPad.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซใใ‚Œใžใ‚ŒiPadใ‚’ๆŒใŸใ›ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
14:24
So we've got these iPads and we set time limits on them so they
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ใใ“ใงใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ iPad ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ—ใ€
14:27
can only play for a certain amount of time within a 24-hour period.
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24 ๆ™‚้–“ไปฅๅ†…ใฎไธ€ๅฎšๆ™‚้–“ใ—ใ‹ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใงใใชใ„ ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ™‚้–“ๅˆถ้™ใ‚’่จญๅฎšใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
14:32
But we also have times on them so they can't play after a certain time in
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ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅญใฉใ‚‚ใŸใกใซๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚่จญใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ๅค•ๆ–นใฎไธ€ๅฎšๆ™‚้–“ไปฅ้™ใฏ้Šในใพใ›ใ‚“
14:38
the evening, for example, they can't play too early in the mornings, and
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ใ€‚ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ๆ—ฉๆœใซ้Šใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใƒ€ใƒกใงใ™ใ—ใ€ๅฎŸ้š›
14:42
in fact, they only get their iPads for about 40 minutes a week anyway.
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ใ€iPad ใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้€ฑใซ็ด„ 40 ๅˆ†ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ใจใ‚‚ใ‹ใใ€‚
14:48
We use it for very specific times.
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’้žๅธธใซ็‰นๅฎšใฎๆ™‚้–“ใซไฝฟ็”จใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
14:51
When it's better for the children to be quiet and sitting still to keep
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ๅญใฉใ‚‚ ใŸใกใ‚’ๅฎ‰ๅ…จใซไฟใคใŸใ‚ใซใ€ไธ€ๅฎšใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใง ้™ใ‹ใซๅบงใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ–นใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใจใ
14:55
them safe and in a certain location.
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ใ€‚ใใ‚Œไปฅๅค–ใงใฏใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏiPadใ‚’
14:58
Other than that, they don't really have their iPads as much as they ask and
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ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆณฃใ่จ€ใ‚’่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ†ใ‚ใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ€iPadใ‚’ใใ‚Œใจๆ‡‡้ก˜ใ—ใŸใ‚Š
15:03
whine, and moan, and beg for their iPads.
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ใ™ใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ iPadใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:06
They don't get them.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
15:09
But what I learned from having these iPads with my children is the
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ iPad ใ‚’ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใจไธ€็ท’ใซๆŒใคใ“ใจใงๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใฎใฏใ€
15:13
times when we've been travelling and decided to allow them to have
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ๆ—…่กŒไธญใซใ€
15:17
their iPads for an extended period, maybe an hour and a half, two hours.
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใ 1 ๆ™‚้–“ๅŠใ€2 ๆ™‚้–“ใชใฉใ€้•ทๆ™‚้–“ iPad ใ‚’ๆŒใŸใ›ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฑบใ‚ใŸใจใใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
15:22
It really has affected their mood and behaviour.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใ‚„่กŒๅ‹•ใซๅคงใใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
15:26
And then they tend to mention their iPads more over the
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎๅพŒๆ•ฐๆ—ฅ้–“ใซใ‚ใŸใฃใฆใ€iPad ใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใใชใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
15:31
consecutive days that follow.
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15:33
So if I give them their iPads for an extended period on a Monday, they are
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€็งใŒๆœˆๆ›œๆ—ฅใซๅฝผใ‚‰ใซ้•ทๆ™‚้–“ iPad ใ‚’ๆธกใ™ใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
15:38
asking for their iPads later that day on the Tuesday and then on the Wednesday,
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ใใฎๆ—ฅใฎๅพŒๅŠใฎ็ซๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€ใใ—ใฆๆฐดๆ›œๆ—ฅใ€
15:45
and perhaps even on the Thursday.
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ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใฏๆœจๆ›œๆ—ฅใซใ‚‚ iPad ใ‚’่ฆๆฑ‚ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:48
The longer they're without the iPad, the more likely they are to forget
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iPad ใชใ—ใง้•ทใ้Žใ”ใ™ใปใฉใ€iPad
15:53
about it and not ask for it anymore.
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ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใชใใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒ้ซ˜ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:56
But their mood is definitely affected when I've allowed them
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใซ
15:59
to have extended periods of play.
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้•ทๆ™‚้–“ใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใƒผใ‚’่จฑๅฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:01
They become more agitated, easily frustrated.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซ่ˆˆๅฅฎใ—ใ€ใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
16:05
My older son who's known for being very polite and kind and
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ใจใฆใ‚‚็คผๅ„€ๆญฃใ—ใใ€ๅ„ชใ—ใใ€
16:10
thoughtful, will become very short-tempered, forget all his manners.
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ๆ€ๆ…ฎๆทฑใ„ใ“ใจใง็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹็งใฎไธŠใฎๆฏๅญใฏใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚็Ÿญๆฐ—ใซใชใ‚Šใ€ใƒžใƒŠใƒผใ‚’ใ™ในใฆๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:17
Forget how to talk to people in a kind of polite way.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎ็คผๅ„€ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใงไบบใ€…ใจ่ฉฑใ™ๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
16:21
I've seen more tears from them on those occasions as well, like
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็งใฏใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ ด้ขใงใ€
16:25
easily resorting to breaking down into tears when they are frustrated
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็›ฎ ใฎๅ‰ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ไป•ไบ‹ใ‚„ๅ•้กŒใซๅฏพๅ‡ฆใงใใšใซ
16:32
rather than being able to handle the task or the problem that's at hand.
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ใ‚คใƒฉใ‚คใƒฉใ—ใŸใจใใซใ€็ฐกๅ˜ใซๆณฃใๅดฉใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ
16:39
And so now we do restrict the time because we've noticed this
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ๆถ™ใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใซ่ฆ‹ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆไปŠใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
16:43
behavioural change in them.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ่กŒๅ‹•ใฎๅค‰ๅŒ–ใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๅˆถ้™ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
16:46
But what I would say about the iPads is there are many benefits besides
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€iPad ใซใคใ„ใฆ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
16:52
the benefits that there are for the parents who sometimes just need a break.
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ไผ‘ๆ†ฉใŒๅฟ…่ฆใช่ฆชใซใจใฃใฆใฎๅˆฉ็‚นไปฅๅค–ใซใ‚‚ใ€ๅคšใใฎๅˆฉ็‚นใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
16:56
My children have gained a lot from some of the programmes and the
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็งใฎๅญไพ›ใŸใกใฏ ใ€iPad ใงไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹
16:59
apps that they use on the iPad.
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ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใ‚„ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‹ใ‚‰ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅญฆใณใพใ—ใŸ
17:02
So for example, they're learning things like phonics and the iPad has
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ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใŠใ‚Šใ€iPad ใฏ
17:08
been teaching my boys how to read.
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ๆฏๅญใŸใกใซ่ชญใฟๆ–นใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:11
They have great ways of teaching numeracy and problem solving.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€่จˆ็ฎ—ใจๅ•้กŒ่งฃๆฑบใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใ‚‹ๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸๆ–นๆณ•ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:17
You know, the hand eye coordination, the fine motor skills, being able to to pick
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๆ‰‹ใจ็›ฎใฎๅ”่ชฟๆ€งใ€็ดฐใ‹ใ„้‹ๅ‹•่ƒฝๅŠ›ใ€
17:23
things up and move them across the screen and tap moving objects on the screen.
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็‰ฉใ‚’ๆ‹พใฃใฆ็”ป้ขไธŠใง็งปๅ‹•ใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ€็”ป้ขไธŠใฎๅ‹•ใ็‰ฉไฝ“ใ‚’ใ‚ฟใƒƒใƒ—ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
17:29
I've seen those skills improve very quickly with the use of an iPad.
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ใ€‚ iPad ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใŒ้žๅธธใซๆ€ฅ้€Ÿใซๅ‘ไธŠใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:35
So I think like with everything, moderation, moderation is key.
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไฝ•ไบ‹ใซใŠใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€็ฏ€ๅบฆใ€็ฏ€ๅบฆใŒ้‡่ฆใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:43
My grandma used to have this saying, and she used to say,
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็งใฎ็ฅ–ๆฏใฏใ‚ˆใใ“ใ†่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
17:47
"A bit of what you fancy does, you good.
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ใ€Œ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็ฉบๆƒณใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘ใ‚„ใ‚Œใฐใ€่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ€‚
17:50
A bit of what you fancy does you good."
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็ฉบๆƒณใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘ใ‚„ใ‚Œใฐใ€่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ€‚ใ€
17:55
So basically saying if you want something, having it in small amounts,
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใชใ‚‰ใ€ๅฐ‘้‡ใšใคใ€
18:01
so in moderation is good because you want it, it'll make you feel
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ใคใพใ‚Š้ฉๅบฆใซ้ฃŸในใ‚‹ใฎใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงๅ……ๅฎŸๆ„ŸใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ—
18:07
fulfilled, and that's a good thing.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
18:10
It will release endorphins and make you happy, but too much of it.
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ใ‚จใƒณใƒ‰ใƒซใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒณใŒๆ”พๅ‡บใ•ใ‚Œใฆๅนธใ›ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ๅคšใ™ใŽใพใ™ใ€‚
18:16
Well, too much of anything, is never a good thing.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ไฝ•ไบ‹ใ‚‚ๅคšใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใฎใฏๆฑบใ—ใฆ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
18:19
Now, my grandma was talking at the time, probably about a little
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ใ•ใฆใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚็ฅ–ๆฏใฏใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆ
18:23
chocolate or a bit of cheese or a bit of wine or port or something.
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ใ‹ใƒใƒผใ‚บใ‹ใƒฏใ‚คใƒณใ‹ใƒใƒผใƒˆใƒฏใ‚คใƒณใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
18:28
Something that you like actually consume with your mouth.
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ๅฅฝใใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅฃใง้ฃŸในใ‚‹ใ€‚
18:32
But it can be applied to all things, everything in moderation.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆใฎใ“ใจใซใ€้ฉๅบฆใซ้ฉ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
18:37
"A little bit of what you fancy does you good."
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ใ€Œ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘ใ‚„ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใ„ใ„ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚ใ€
18:39
If you like watching soap operas, if that's how you like to spend
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ใƒกใƒญใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆ
18:42
your time, then watch soap operas.
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ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใŸใ„ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใƒกใƒญใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
18:44
If you like playing video games, play video games, but don't
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใชใ‚‰ใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ช ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซ
18:48
allow it to take over your life.
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ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’ๅ ้ ˜ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚„ใ‚ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
18:52
So some of the problems that do arise from a video game addiction when you're
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใจใ€ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆๅฎŸ้š›ใซ็”Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ๅ•้กŒใฎใ„ใใคใ‹
18:56
playing too much is that you might end up spending too much of your time
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ใฏ ใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซ
19:01
with the game at the detriment of your social life, your family, your
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ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’่ฒปใ‚„ใ—ใ™ใŽใฆใ€ ็คพไผš็”Ÿๆดปใ€ๅฎถๆ—ใ€
19:09
intimate relationships, your health.
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่ฆชๅฏ†ใช้–ขไฟ‚ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅฅๅบทใ€‚
19:12
So you might be neglecting yourself.
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’็„ก่ฆ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
19:14
Maybe you don't go to the toilet when your body says you need to go to the toilet.
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ไฝ“ใŒใƒˆใ‚คใƒฌใซ่กŒใใŸใ„ใจ่จดใˆใฆใ‚‚ใƒˆใ‚คใƒฌใซ่กŒใ‹ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
19:18
Maybe you'll hold on.
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ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ๆˆ‘ๆ…ขใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
19:20
Maybe you neglect your personal hygiene so you decide not to bother brushing
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ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ ใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใงๅฟ™ใ—ใ™ใŽใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒฏใƒผใ‚’ๆตดใณใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ€
19:25
your teeth because you are too busy playing a game or you skip your shower.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่ก›็”Ÿ็Šถๆ…‹ใ‚’็„ก่ฆ–ใ—ใฆๆญฏใ‚’็ฃจใใฎใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
19:31
Maybe a few days in a run because you're too busy playing and so you start to
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ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€้Šใถใฎใซๅฟ™ใ—ใ™ใŽใฆๆ•ฐๆ—ฅ็ถšใ‘ใฆ่‡ญใใชใ‚Šๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œ
19:34
stink, but you don't care 'cause you're alone in a room and no one can smell you.
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ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€้ƒจๅฑ‹ใซไธ€ไบบใงใ„ใฆ่ชฐใ‚‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅŒ‚ใ„ใ‚’ๅ—…ใใ“ใจใŒใงใใชใ„ใฎใงใ€ๆฐ—ใซใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
19:39
Maybe like me when I was a teenager, you don't listen to your hunger cues
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€10ไปฃใฎ้ ƒใฎ็งใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไฝ“ใŒใ€ŒใŠ่…นใŒ็ฉบใ„ใŸใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใซใ€็ฉบ่…นใฎๅˆๅ›ณใซ่€ณใ‚’ๅ‚พใ‘ใชใ„ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
19:46
when your body's saying, I'm hungry.
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19:48
You wait until you are really, really ravenously hungry before
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใŠ่…นใŒ็ฉบใใพใงๅพ…ใฃใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€
19:53
you emerge to go and get some food.
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้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
19:57
And the same with drinking.
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ใใ—ใฆ้ฃฒ้…’ใ‚‚ๅŒๆง˜ใงใ™ใ€‚
19:59
It's highly likely that if you have a gaming addiction, then
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20:02
you're not drinking enough water.
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ๆฐดใ‚’ๅๅˆ†ใซๆ‘‚ๅ–ใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒ้ซ˜ใใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
20:05
I remember playing a game more recently, I think it was some sort of racing game.
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ใ‚‚ใฃใจๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใŸใ“ใจใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏไธ€็จฎใฎใƒฌใƒผใ‚น ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:11
It was a high speed game, and both my partner and I realised that every time
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ใƒใ‚คใ‚นใƒ”ใƒผใƒ‰ใชใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ใƒ‘ใƒผใƒˆใƒŠใƒผใ‚‚็ง
20:16
we had a round of this game, our eyes would be really sore and we'd be rubbing
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ใ‚‚ใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใƒฉใ‚ฆใƒณใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ ใŸใณใซ ็›ฎใŒใจใฆใ‚‚็—›ใใชใ‚Šใ€
20:21
our eyes, oh, my eyes really hurt.
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็›ฎใ‚’ใ“ใ™ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ€็›ฎใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็—›ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
20:23
I don't understand why, and then we realised it's because we didn't blink.
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็†็”ฑใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใŒใ€็žฌใใ‚’ใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใจๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:28
We were so obsessed, not obsessed.
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็งใŸใกใฏๅคขไธญใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ๅคขไธญใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:33
We were so focused on the game.
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็งใŸใกใฏ่ฉฆๅˆใซใจใฆใ‚‚้›†ไธญใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:35
We didn't want to miss a beat.
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็งใŸใกใฏใƒ“ใƒผใƒˆใ‚’้€ƒใ—ใŸใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:37
We didn't want to crash the vehicle.
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็งใŸใกใฏ่ปŠใ‚’่ก็ชใ•ใ›ใŸใใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
20:39
I think it was like one of those racing games with like a spaceship, and you are
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ๅฎ‡ๅฎ™่ˆนใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใƒฌใƒผใ‚นใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:43
racing on a very thin strip of racetrack and even the slightest move in the wrong
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้žๅธธใซ็ดฐใ„็ซถ้ฆฌๅ ดใงใƒฌใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ใงใ‚‚้–“้•ใฃใŸๆ–นๅ‘ใซๅ‹•ใ
20:50
direction and you'd explode and fall off the edge of the racetrack or something.
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ใจ็ˆ†็™บใ—ใฆ็ซถ้ฆฌๅ ดใฎ็ซฏใ‹ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‰่ฝใกใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ€‚
20:55
And so you would play for a two minute race and not blink.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็žฌใใ›ใšใซ2ๅˆ†้–“ใฎใƒฌใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
21:00
So you're just staring, staring, staring, which would cause your eyes to dry out and
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใŸใ ่ฆ‹ใคใ‚ใฆใ€่ฆ‹ใคใ‚ใฆใ€่ฆ‹ใคใ‚็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹ใจใ€็›ฎใŒไนพ็‡ฅใ—ใฆใ€
21:05
your eyes would get really sore and itchy.
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็›ฎใŒใฒใฉใ็—›ใใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‹ใ‚†ใใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:08
Yeah.
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21:10
So how do you remember to blink?
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ใงใฏใ€ใฉใ†ใ‚„ใฃใฆใพใฐใŸใใ‚’่ฆšใˆใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
21:12
Anyway, yes, so you might neglect yourself.
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’็„ก่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:16
You might be missing out on socialising with your friends.
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ๅ‹้”ใจใฎไบคๆตใ‚’้€ƒใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:18
You might decide to go home to play another round of your game rather than
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๅ‹้”ใจๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ™ใฎ
21:24
actually spending time with your friends.
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ใงใฏใชใใ€ๅฎถใซๅธฐใฃใฆใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
21:27
I always thought with the game, Pokemon Go, which is designed to make you
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ใ€‚็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ€ใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณ GO ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ“ใฎใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฏใ€
21:31
get up and go out of the house and walk around to try and find Pokemon.
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็ซ‹ใกไธŠใŒใฃใฆๅฎถใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ‡บใฆใ€ๆญฉใๅ›žใฃใฆใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†
21:37
It's also designed to try and get you to meet up with other Pokemon players.
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ใซ่จญ่จˆใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใพใŸใ€ไป–ใฎใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใƒคใƒผใจไผšใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚็›ฎ็š„ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
21:44
Now I can't speak for all Pokemon players, but I know someone who was a
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ไปŠใ€็งใฏใ™ในใฆใฎใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใƒคใƒผใฎใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
21:49
little bit addicted to Pokemon Go and that person, when I'd spend time with
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ใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณGOใซๅฐ‘ใ—ไธญๆฏ’ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใŸไบบใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆใใฎไบบใฏใ€็งใŒ
21:54
them, they would often be listening to me, but then get their phone out and I
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใจๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ™ใจใใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ—ใฐใ—ใฐ็งใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใใฎๅพŒๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ‰‹ใซๅ–ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
22:02
could tell that they weren't 100% with me.
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22:04
I was like, what?
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็งใฏใ€Œไฝ•๏ผŸใ€ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใ€‚
22:05
What are you doing?
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ไฝ•ใ—ใฆใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
22:06
What's going on and then say, I'm sorry, there's just, there's a really
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22:10
rare Pokemon here, or I'm trying to get a shiny, or it's community day,
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22:14
which means there's some important Pokemons that I've got to catch.
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้‡่ฆใชใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณใŒใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ€ ใ€‚
22:18
And we'd be in some amazing, beautiful places and they would be I down on their
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ็พŽใ—ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใŒ
22:24
phone trying to catch these Pokemon in these amazing places and, and that
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒใ‚ฑใƒขใƒณใ‚’ๆ•ใพใˆใ‚ˆใ†ใจ้›ป่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€
22:30
made me wonder about how they can sustain meaningful quality relationships
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๅฎŒๅ…จใซๆ„ๅ‘ณใฎ ใ‚ใ‚‹่ณชใฎ้ซ˜ใ„้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚’็ถญๆŒใ™ใ‚‹ใซใฏใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ˆใ„ใฎใ‹็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
22:37
when they aren't fully present.
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็พๅœจใ€‚
22:41
Anyway, so you might miss out on socialising properly with people and
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ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ไบบใ€…ใจ้ฉๅˆ‡ใซไบคๆตใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ไบบ้–“้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚’็ฏ‰ใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใ‚’้€ƒใ™ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
22:47
building relationships and gaming often makes you stay up very, very late.
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ใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงๅคœๆ›ดใ‹ใ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:54
So you know you should go to sleep by 10 o'clock.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€10ๆ™‚ใพใงใซๅฏใ‚‹ในใใ ใจใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:56
But 10 o'clock comes and you are really close to the end of a level,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€10 ๆ™‚ใŒๆฅใ‚‹ใจใ€ใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใฎ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ‹ใชใ‚Š่ฟ‘ใฅใ„ใฆใใพใ™ใ€‚
23:00
and then you get to the end of the level and you think, oh, I'll just
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ใใฎๅพŒใ€ใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใฎ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซๅˆฐ้”ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€
23:02
play a little bit more, just five more minutes, which turns into an hour.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ ใ‘ใ€ใ‚ใจ 5 ๅˆ†ใ ใ‘ใƒ—ใƒฌใ‚คใ—ใฆใฟใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ 1ๆ™‚้–“ใซๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
23:06
And before you know it, you are hitting on one o'clock in the morning and you're
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๆฐ—ใฅใ‘ใฐๅˆๅ‰1ๆ™‚ใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใฆใ„ใฆใ€
23:11
like, oh, I really should go to sleep.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฏใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ‘ใชใ„ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
23:12
I've gotta get up early for work.
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ไป•ไบ‹ใฎใŸใ‚ใซๆ—ฉใ่ตทใใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
23:15
Then when you get to work, you can't focus because all you're
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ใใ†ใชใ‚‹ใจใ€ไป•ไบ‹ใซ็€ใใจใ€
23:17
thinking about is getting home to complete the next level of your game.
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ๅฎถใซๅธฐใฃใฆใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใฎๆฌกใฎใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใ‚’ๅฎŒไบ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจ ใ ใ‘ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใฆ้›†ไธญใงใใชใใชใ‚Šใพใ™
23:22
So this is what a gaming addiction looks like.
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ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใฎๆง˜ๅญใงใ™ใ€‚
23:25
It makes you into a shell of yourself.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใฎๆฎปใซใ—ใฆใ—ใพใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:29
So ask yourself if you are a gamer, do you just enjoy gaming?
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ใใ“ใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ‚ฒใƒผใƒžใƒผใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ€ใŸใ ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’่‡ชๅ•ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
23:34
Is it a part of your life or is it your life?
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไบบ็”Ÿใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
23:39
Do you have a gaming addiction?
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ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
23:41
Is it having a negative impact on your health, on your
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23:44
relationships, on your work?
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ๆ‚ชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ๅŠใผใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹
23:47
Okay, so that brings me to the end of this little discussion
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? ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใงใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใจใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ไพๅญ˜็—‡ใซ้–ขใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใฎๅฐใ•ใช่ญฐ่ซ–ใฏ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™
23:54
into gaming and gaming addiction.
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23:56
I do hope that you found today useful.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใŒใŠๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใฆใฐๅนธใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
23:59
If you're a Plus Member, then I'll be deep diving into some of today's
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Plus ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ ใƒœใƒผใƒŠใ‚น ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใง
24:03
vocabulary in our bonus episode.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎ่ชžๅฝ™ใฎไธ€้ƒจใ‚’่ฉณใ—ใ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™
24:07
And if you are not a Plus Member, but you'd like to get more out
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ใ€‚ Plus ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใงใฏใชใ„ใŒใ€
24:11
of these podcasts, get access to bonus material, and access to the
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใ•ใ‚‰ใซๆดป็”จใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใƒœใƒผใƒŠใ‚น็ด ๆใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
24:16
transcripts for current episodes, then do consider becoming a Plus Member and
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็พๅœจใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€Plus ใƒกใƒณใƒใƒผใซใชใฃใฆ
24:21
supporting the growth of this podcast.
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใฎๆˆ้•ทใ‚’ใ‚ตใƒใƒผใƒˆใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจ ใ‚’ๆคœ่จŽใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ€‚
24:23
I will leave a link in the show notes.
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็•ช็ต„ใƒกใƒขใซใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ๆฎ‹ใ—ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
24:26
Thank you so much for joining me.
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ใ”ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใฆ่ช ใซใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
24:28
Until next time, game on.
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ๆฌกๅ›žใพใงใ€ใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
24:31
Or should I say game over.
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