Math can help uncover cancer's secrets | Irina Kareva

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
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I am a translator.
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我翻譯,
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I translate from biology into mathematics
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從生物學翻譯成數學,
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and vice versa.
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也從數學譯回生物學。
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I write mathematical models
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我撰寫數學模型,
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which, in my case, are systems of differential equations,
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用微分方程系統
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to describe biological mechanisms,
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來描述生物的機制,
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such as cell growth.
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像是細胞的成長。
00:28
Essentially, it works like this.
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基本上,它的運作如下。
00:30
First, I identify the key elements
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我先要找出關鍵的元素,
00:33
that I believe may be driving behavior over time
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那些我認為會隨著時間
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of a particular mechanism.
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驅動特定機制行為的元素。
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Then, I formulate assumptions
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接下來我做假設,
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about how these elements interact with each other
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臆測這些元素如何彼此互動、
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and with their environment.
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與環境互動。
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It may look something like this.
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看起來像圖示這樣。
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Then, I translate these assumptions into equations,
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然後我把這些假設翻譯成方程式,
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which may look something like this.
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看起來像這樣(右圖)。
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Finally, I analyze my equations
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最後,我分析方程式,
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and translate the results back into the language of biology.
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再把結果譯回生物學的語言。
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A key aspect of mathematical modeling
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建立數學模式的關鍵面向,
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is that we, as modelers, do not think about what things are;
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並非我們這些建模的人 設想東西「是」什麼,
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we think about what they do.
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而是「做」了什麼。
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We think about relationships between individuals,
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我們設想個體間的關係,
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whether they be cells, animals or people,
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不論是細胞、動物或人,
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and how they interact with each other and with their environment.
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設想他們如何彼此互動, 如何與環境互動。
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Let me give you an example.
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讓我舉個例子。
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What do foxes and immune cells have in common?
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狐狸和免疫細胞有什麼共通點?
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They're both predators,
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兩者都是捕食者,
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except foxes feed on rabbits,
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不過,狐狸吃兔子,
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and immune cells feed on invaders, such as cancer cells.
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免疫細胞吃癌細胞之類的入侵者。
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But from a mathematical point of view,
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但從數學的觀點來看,
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a qualitatively same system of predator-prey type equations
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用性質相同的 捕食者—獵物型方程式系統,
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will describe interactions between foxes and rabbits
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就能描述狐與兔間的互動,
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and cancer and immune cells.
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及癌症與免疫細胞間的互動。
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Predator-prey type systems have been studied extensively
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捕食者—獵物型方程式系統
已經在科學文獻中被廣泛研究,
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in scientific literature,
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describing interactions of two populations,
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描述兩個族群間的互動,
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where survival of one depends on consuming the other.
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其中一個族群的生存 仰賴消費另一個族群。
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And these same equations provide a framework
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正是這些方程式提供架構
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for understanding cancer-immune interactions,
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來了解癌症—免疫間的互動,
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where cancer is the prey,
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癌症是獵物,
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and the immune system is the predator.
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免疫系統是捕食者。
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And the prey employs all sorts of tricks to prevent the predator from killing it,
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而獵物會採用各種詭計 避免遭捕食者獵殺,
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ranging from camouflaging itself
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詭計的範圍從偽裝自己,
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to stealing the predator's food.
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到偷竊捕食者的食物都有。
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This can have some very interesting implications.
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這意涵可能饒富興味。
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For example, despite enormous successes in the field of immunotherapy,
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例如,儘管免疫治療的領域 已取得巨大的成功,
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there still remains somewhat limited efficacy
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遇到實質固態瘤時功效仍然有限。
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when it comes solid tumors.
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But if you think about it ecologically,
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如果從生態的角度來想,
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both cancer and immune cells --
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癌症和免疫細胞
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the prey and the predator --
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──捕食者和獵物──
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require nutrients such as glucose to survive.
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皆需葡萄糖之類的營養才能生存。
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If cancer cells outcompete the immune cells for shared nutrients
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在腫瘤微環境中競爭共同的養分時,
如果癌症細胞勝過了免疫細胞,
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in the tumor microenvironment,
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then the immune cells will physically not be able to do their job.
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那麼免疫細胞將無法完成工作。
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This predator-prey-shared resource type model
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我研究這種捕食者—獵物 共享資源形式的模型。
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is something I've worked on in my own research.
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And it was recently shown experimentally
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近期有實驗顯示,
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that restoring the metabolic balance in the tumor microenvironment --
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恢復腫瘤微環境的代謝平衡──
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that is, making sure immune cells get their food --
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亦即確保免疫細胞能獲取食物──
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can give them, the predators, back their edge in fighting cancer, the prey.
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能讓免疫細胞這捕食者取回優勢
來對抗癌症這獵物。
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This means that if you abstract a bit,
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意思是,可用抽象一點的方式,
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you can think about cancer itself as an ecosystem,
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把癌症本身設想像為生態系統,
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where heterogeneous populations of cells compete and cooperate
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那裡的各種細胞族群
彼此競爭和合作以取得空間和營養,
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for space and nutrients,
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interact with predators -- the immune system --
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和免疫系統這捕食者互動,
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migrate -- metastases --
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遷移、轉移……
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all within the ecosystem of the human body.
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全都發生在人體這生態系統中。
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And what do we know about most ecosystems from conservation biology?
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我們從保育生物學的角度看, 對生態系統了解最多的是什麼?
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That one of the best ways to extinguish species
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我們知道滅絕物種的最佳方式,
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is not to target them directly
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不是直接針對物種,
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but to target their environment.
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而是針對物種的環境。
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And so, once we have identified the key components
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因此,一旦我們找出了
腫瘤環境的關鍵組成,
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of the tumor environment,
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we can propose hypotheses
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我們就能提出假設、
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and simulate scenarios and therapeutic interventions
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模擬情境和干預治療,
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all in a completely safe and affordable way
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全都以安全和實惠的方式進行,
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and target different components of the microenvironment
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針對微環境中的不同組成成份,
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in such a way as to kill the cancer without harming the host,
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能夠殺死癌症卻不傷到宿主,
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such as me or you.
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不傷到我或你。
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And so while the immediate goal of my research
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所以,我研究的當前目標
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is to advance research and innovation
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是推動研究和創新,
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and to reduce its cost,
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並減少成本。
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the real intent, of course, is to save lives.
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當然,真正的目的是要拯救人命。
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And that's what I try to do
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那就是我試著在做的事,
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through mathematical modeling applied to biology,
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將數學建模應用到生物學,
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and in particular, to the development of drugs.
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特別是用在藥物的發展上。
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It's a field that until relatively recently has remained somewhat marginal,
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直到最近,這一直是個 邊緣、不被重視的領域,
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but it has matured.
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但它已經成熟了。
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And there are now very well-developed mathematical methods,
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現在有發展得非常好的數學方法,
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a lot of preprogrammed tools,
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有很多預編的程式工具,
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including free ones,
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也有很多免費的工具,
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and an ever-increasing amount of computational power available to us.
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我們能獲得的計算能力越來越多。
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The power and beauty of mathematical modeling
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數學建模的力與美在於
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lies in the fact that it makes you formalize,
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它能把我們的認知
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in a very rigorous way,
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以非常嚴謹的方式形式化。
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what we think we know.
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We make assumptions,
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我們假設,
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translate them into equations,
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把假設翻譯為方程式,
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run simulations,
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進行模擬,
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all to answer the question:
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都是要解答這個問題:
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In a world where my assumptions are true,
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在假設能夠成立的世界裡,
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what do I expect to see?
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我預期看見什麼?
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It's a pretty simple conceptual framework.
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這是很簡單的概念性架構,
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It's all about asking the right questions.
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重點是要問對問題。
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But it can unleash numerous opportunities for testing biological hypotheses.
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它能夠解放出許多 測試生物假設的機會。
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If our predictions match our observations,
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如果我們的預測和觀察相吻合,
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great! -- we got it right, so we can make further predictions
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很棒!我們做對了。
我們就能改變模型來進一步預測。
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by changing this or that aspect of the model.
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If, however, our predictions do not match our observations,
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然而如果預測和觀察不吻合,
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that means that some of our assumptions are wrong,
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那就表示有些假設是錯的,
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and so our understanding of the key mechanisms
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我們對於背後生物學的關鍵機制
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of underlying biology
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is still incomplete.
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了解得還不夠完善。
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Luckily, since this is a model,
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幸運的是,因為這是模型,
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we control all the assumptions.
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我們能控制所有的假設,
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So we can go through them, one by one,
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所以能看過一個個假設,
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identifying which one or ones are causing the discrepancy.
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找出哪一個或哪幾個造成了不一致。
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And then we can fill this newly identified gap in knowledge
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接著就能把新辨識出來的知識落差,
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using both experimental and theoretical approaches.
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用實驗性和理論性的方式補起來。
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Of course, any ecosystem is extremely complex,
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當然,生態系統都極度複雜,
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and trying to describe all the moving parts is not only very difficult,
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試圖描述所有會動的部分,
不僅很困難,也無法提供很多資訊。
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but also not very informative.
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There's also the issue of timescales,
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還有時間範圍的議題,
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because some processes take place on a scale of seconds, some minutes,
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因為有些過程的時間範圍 發生在秒上,有些在分上,
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some days, months and years.
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還有的是日、月、年。
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It may not always be possible to separate those out experimentally.
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未必都能在實驗裡分得開。
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And some things happen so quickly or so slowly
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有些發生得很快或很慢,
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that you may physically never be able to measure them.
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實際上根本不可能去量。
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But as mathematicians,
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但身為數學家,
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we have the power to zoom in on any subsystem in any timescale
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我們有能力放大 任何子系統的任何時間範圍,
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and simulate effects of interventions
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並模擬在任何時間範圍內
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that take place in any timescale.
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所發生的干預效果。
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Of course, this isn't the work of a modeler alone.
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當然,這不只是 建模者一個人的工作,
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It has to happen in close collaboration with biologists.
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一定要和生物學家密切合作才行。
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And it does demand some capacity of translation
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這確實會需要一些翻譯的能力,
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on both sides.
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雙方都要。
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But starting with a theoretical formulation of a problem
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從表述問題的理論開始,
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can unleash numerous opportunities for testing hypotheses
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就能帶出許多機會
來測試假設、
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and simulating scenarios and therapeutic interventions,
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模擬情景和干預治療措施,
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all in a completely safe way.
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全都以安全的方式進行。
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It can identify gaps in knowledge and logical inconsistencies
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它能夠辨視出知識的落差、
邏輯的不一致,
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and can help guide us as to where we should keep looking
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能引導我們應該持續探索的方向,
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and where there may be a dead end.
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指出哪裡可能是死胡同。
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In other words:
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換言之,
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mathematical modeling can help us answer questions
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數學建模能協助我們回答
直接影響人們健康的問題,
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that directly affect people's health --
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that affect each person's health, actually --
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其實會影響每個人的健康,
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because mathematical modeling will be key
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因為數學建模將會是 推進個人化醫學的關鍵。
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to propelling personalized medicine.
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And it all comes down to asking the right question
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而這全都涉及到:要問對問題,
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and translating it to the right equation ...
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要將問題翻譯成對的方程式,
07:30
and back.
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和再翻譯回來。
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Thank you.
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謝謝。
07:33
(Applause)
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