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譯者: Lilian Chiu
審譯者: 穎君 紀
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Alright, quick poll --
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快速做個調查——
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raise your hand if you have
a relationship in your life
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如果你的人生中擁有一段
對你有意義的關係,請舉手。
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that's meaningful to you.
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OK, I assumed, but always good
to check our assumptions.
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好,和我假設的一樣,
但確認一下總是好事。
00:16
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:18
I’m saying this because
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我會這麼說,是因為雖然今天的焦點
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while I'll be focusing today
on a parent-child relationship,
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會是親子關係,
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please know that everything
I'm talking about
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請注意,我所談的所有內容
都適用於任何有意義的關係。
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is applicable to any
meaningful relationship.
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00:30
So with that in mind, let's jump in.
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把這點謹記在心,咱們開始吧。
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So it's Sunday night, I'm in my kitchen.
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星期天晚上,
我在廚房裡。
00:38
I just finished cooking
dinner for my family,
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我剛幫家人做完晚餐,
00:40
and I am on edge.
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我處於易怒狀態。
我累壞了,我一直沒有睡好,
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I mean, I'm exhausted,
I haven't been sleeping well.
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00:45
I’m anxious about the upcoming workweek,
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下一週的工作讓我很焦慮,
00:48
I'm overwhelmed by all the items
on my unfinished to-do list.
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待完成事項清單快把我搞瘋。
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And then, my son walks into the kitchen.
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接著,我兒子走進廚房。
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He looks at the table and whines,
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他看著桌子,嘀咕說:
00:57
"Chicken again?"
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「又吃雞?」
00:58
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:59
"Disgusting."
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「噁心。」
01:00
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:02
And that's it. I snap.
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那是最後一根稻草,我生氣了,
我看著他大吼:「你是怎樣?
01:04
I look at him and I yell,
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01:05
"What is wrong with you?
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01:07
Can you be grateful
for one thing in your life?"
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還有人做飯給你吃,
感激一點好嗎?」
接著情況變得更糟,
他大叫:「我恨你。」
01:12
And things get worse from there.
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01:13
He screams, "I hate you."
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01:14
He runs out of the room
and he slams his bedroom door.
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他跑回他的臥房,猛力關上門。
01:17
And now, my self-loathing session begins,
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接著輪到我自我厭惡了,我對自己說:
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as I say to myself,
"What is wrong with me?
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「我是怎麼搞的?
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I've messed up my kid forever."
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我永久傷到我的孩子了。」
01:27
Well, if you're a parent,
you've probably felt that pain.
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有小孩的人可能感受得到那種痛苦。
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For me, it comes
with an extra layer of shame.
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對我而言,那痛苦還多了一層羞恥感。
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I mean, I’m a clinical psychologist
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因為,我是臨床心理學家,
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and my specialty is helping people
become better parents.
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而我的專長是協助他人成為更好的父母親。
01:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:44
And yet, this is true as well --
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但,這點也是真的——
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there is no such thing
as a perfect parent.
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世界上沒有完美的父母親。
01:50
Mistakes and struggles,
they come with the job,
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錯誤和掙扎本來就是父母職的一部分,
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but no one tells us what to do next.
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但沒有人告訴我們接下來該怎麼做。
01:57
Do we just move on?
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我們就繼續過日子嗎?
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Kind of just pretend
the whole thing never happened?
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假裝這整件事從沒發生過?
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Or if I say something,
what are the words?
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如果我要說點什麼,那我該說什麼?
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Well, for years, as a clinical
psychologist in private practice,
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身為私人執業的臨床心理學家,數年來,
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I saw client after client
struggle with this question.
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我見過無數客戶為此問題所苦。
02:13
And now, as the creator of the parenting
content and community platform
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現在,身為教養策略內容及社群平台
「內在良善」的創作人,
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"Good Inside,"
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I see millions of parents
around the globe struggle with this issue.
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我看到全球有數百萬名父母
都為這個問題所苦。
02:25
All parents yell.
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所有的父母都在吶喊。
02:28
No one knows what to do next.
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沒有人知道接下來該怎麼做。
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Well, I'm determined to fill this gap.
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我下定決心要填補這個落差。
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After all, there's almost nothing
within our interpersonal relationships
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畢竟在我們的人際關係中,
幾乎沒有什麼
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that can have as much impact as repair.
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能比「修復」更有影響力了。
02:42
Whenever a parent asks me,
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每當有父母親問我:
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"What one parenting strategy
should I focus on?"
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「我應該專注在哪項教養策略上?」
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I always say the same thing:
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我的答案永遠一樣:
「學習把修復做好。」
02:50
"Get good at repair."
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02:52
So what is repair?
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所以,修復是什麼?
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Repair is the act of going back
to a moment of disconnection.
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修復,是回到斷絕的那一刻,
02:59
Taking responsibility for your behavior
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為你的行為擔起責任,
03:02
and acknowledging the impact
it had on another.
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並承認這個行為對對方造成的影響。
03:06
And I want to differentiate
a repair from an apology,
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我想點出修復和道歉的區別,
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because when an apology often looks
to shut a conversation down --
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因為,道歉尋求的
通常是要把談話終止——
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“Hey, I’m sorry I yelled.
Can we move on now?” --
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「嘿,很抱歉剛才對你大小聲,
過去就算了好嗎?」——
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a good repair opens one up.
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好的修復反而會開啟對話。
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And if you think about what it means
to get good at repair,
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想想「學習把修復做好」的意義,
03:25
there's so much baked-in realism
and hope and possibility.
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它包含了好多的現實性、
希望,以及可能性。
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Repair assumes there's been a rupture.
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修復的前提假設,是關係破裂了。
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So to repair,
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若要修復,
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you have to mess up
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你就得先搞砸,
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or fall short of someone
else's expectations.
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或者做不到某人的期望。
03:42
Which means the next time
I snap at my kid,
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意思就是,我下次
對我的孩子厲聲說話時,
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or my husband, or my work colleague,
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或者對我的先生,或我的同事,
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instead of berating myself,
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我就不該像那天在廚房那樣嚴責自己,
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like I did that night in the kitchen,
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而是要試著提醒我自己,
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I try to remind myself I'm focusing
on getting good at repair.
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我要專注在學習把修復做好。
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Step one is rupture.
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第一步是破裂。
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"Check that off, I crushed it."
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「第一步完成,我把它搞砸了。」
04:02
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:05
Step two is repair.
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第二步是修復。
「我能做到的。
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"I can do this.
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04:09
I'm actually right on track."
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我正走在對的方向上沒錯。」
04:13
So let's get back to my example.
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回到剛才的例子:我在廚房裡,
我兒子在他的房間裡。
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I'm in the kitchen, my son is in his room.
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04:17
Well, what will happen if I don't repair?
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嗯,如果我不修復,會如何?
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That’s really important to understand
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了解這一點十分重要,
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and helps us make a decision
about what to do next.
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且能協助我們決定接下來要怎麼做。
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Well, here are the facts.
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事實如下:
我兒子獨自一人,
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My son is alone, overwhelmed
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不知所措,且處在苦惱中,
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and in a state of distress,
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because, let's face it,
his mom just became scary mom.
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因為,老實說,他的媽媽
剛才變成了可怕的媽媽。
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And now, he has to figure out
a way to get back
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現在,他得想辦法讓他自己能重新
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to feeling safe and secure.
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感到安全和安心。
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And if I don't go help him do that
through making a repair,
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如果我不透過修復來幫助他做到這點,
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he has to rely on one of the only
coping mechanisms
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他就得仰賴
他自己唯一能使用的處理機制——
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he has at his own disposal ...
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self-blame.
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怪罪自己。
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Self-blame sounds like this:
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「怪罪自己」聽起來像是這樣:
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“Something’s wrong with me.
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「我一定有什麼問題。
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I’m unlovable.
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我不討人喜歡。
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I make bad things happen.”
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我會讓壞事發生。」
05:07
Ronald Fairbairn may have said it best
when he wrote that, for kids,
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羅納德‧費爾貝恩的說法很棒,
他寫道,對孩子而言,
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it is better to be a sinner
in a world ruled by God
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在上帝統治的世界中
身為罪人,也好過
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than to live in a world
ruled by the devil.
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生活在魔鬼統治的世界中。
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In other words, it's actually adaptive
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換言之,對孩子而言,將不好及錯誤
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for a child to internalize
badness and fault,
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給內化其實是一種適應行為。
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because at least then,
they can hold onto the idea
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因為這麼做讓他們至少還可以
守住這個想法:他們的父母
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that their parents
and the world around them
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以及他們周遭的世界
是安全的、是良善的。
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is safe and good.
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05:37
And while self-blame
works for us in childhood,
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雖然在兒時,怪罪自己
對我們而言是行得通的,
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we all know it works
against us in adulthood.
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但我們都知道,成年之後
它就會反撲。
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“Something’s wrong with me.
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「我一定有什麼問題。
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I make bad things happen.
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我讓壞事發生。我不討人喜歡。」
05:47
I’m unlovable.”
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這些是好多成人的核心恐懼。
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These are the core fears
of so many adults.
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05:52
But really, we see here,
they are actually the childhood stories
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但其實,在此可以看到,
這些其實就是我們以前寫下的
童年故事,那時發生了
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we wrote when we were left alone
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05:59
following distressing events
that went unrepaired.
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沒有修復的痛苦事件之後,
我們就被獨自丟下。
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Plus, adults with self-blame
are vulnerable to depression, anxiety,
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此外,會自責的成人
很容易陷入憂鬱、焦慮、
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deep feelings of worthlessness --
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深深的無價值感——這些
都不是我們希望孩子擁有的。
06:11
none of which we want for our kids.
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06:14
And we can do better.
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我們可以做得更好。那並不
表示我們必須要做到完美。
06:15
And it doesn't mean we have to be perfect.
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06:18
When you repair,
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當你在修復時,
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you go further than removing
a child's story of self-blame.
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你就不只是在消除孩子的自責敘事。
06:24
You get to add in all the elements
that were missing in the first place.
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你還可以把一開始就缺乏的元素加進來。
06:29
Safety, connection, coherence,
love, goodness.
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安全感、連結、
團結、愛、
良善。
06:35
It's as if you're saying to a child,
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修復就彷彿是你在對孩子說:
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"I will not let this chapter
of your life end in self-blame.
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「我不會讓你人生的這一章
以自我怪罪作結。」
06:42
Yes, this chapter will still contain
the event of yelling,
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是的,這一章
還是會有吼叫內容,
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but I can ensure this chapter
has a different ending,
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但我可以確保這一章有不同的結局,
06:50
and therefore a different title,
and theme and lesson learned."
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所以會有不同的章名、
主題,以及記取的教訓。
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We know that memory is original events
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我們知道,記憶是原始的事件
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combined with every other time
you've remembered that event.
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結合所有你回想起那個事件的時刻。
07:04
This is why therapy's helpful, right?
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這就是為甚麼心理治療有效。
07:07
When you remember painful
experiences from your past
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當你在一段更安全、更有連結的關係中
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within a safer and more
connected relationship,
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回憶起你過去的痛苦經歷,
那個事件仍然存在,
07:15
the event remains,
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but your story of the event,
it changes, and then you change.
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但你對於那個事件
所認知的敘事會改變,
接著你就會改變。
07:23
With repair,
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靠著修復,
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we effectively change the past.
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我們就能有效地改變過去。
07:29
So let's write a better story.
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讓我們來寫下更好的故事。
07:31
Let's learn how to repair.
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讓我們來學習如何修復。
07:33
Step one, repair with yourself.
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第一步,先和自己做修復。
07:37
That's right.
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是的,我的意思是,若你要提供同情、
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I mean, you can't offer compassion
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or groundedness or understanding
to someone else
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安全感,或諒解給別人,
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before you access
those qualities within yourself.
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你就得先接觸到自己內在的這些特質。
07:48
Self-repair means
separating your identity,
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自我修復意味著將你的身分(即:你是誰)
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who you are,
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from your behavior, what you did.
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和你的行為(即:你做了什麼)分開。
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For me, it means telling myself
two things are true.
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對我而言,那就意味著
要告訴我自己兩個事實:
我對我上次的行為並不感到驕傲;
08:02
I’m not proud of my latest behavior
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08:04
and my latest behavior doesn't define me.
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且我上次的行為不能
定義我是什麼樣的人。
即使我外在看起來很掙扎,
08:08
Even as I struggle on the outside,
I remain good inside.
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我的內在仍然是良善的。
08:14
I can then start to see
that I'm a good parent --
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接著,我開始能看見我是個好媽媽
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identity --
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——身分——
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who was having a hard time -- behavior.
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我只是處在艱難時刻——行為。
08:21
And no, this doesn't let me off the hook.
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不,這並不表示我就能開脫了。
08:25
This is precisely what leaves me
on the hook for change.
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這反而讓我要扛起責任,做出改變。
08:29
Because now that I've replaced
my spiral with groundedness,
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因為,既然現在我已經
用穩固感取代掉負情緒漩渦,
我就真的可以把我的正能量
用來思考我下次能如何改進。
08:33
I can actually use my energy
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08:34
toward thinking about what I want
to do differently the next time.
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08:38
Oh, and I can now use my energy
to go repair with my son.
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喔對,還能拿去找我的兒子做修復。
08:41
Step two -- repair with your child.
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第二步,和你的孩子進行修復。
08:44
There's no exact formula.
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沒有確切的公式。
08:46
I often think about three elements:
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我通常會思考三個元素:
08:48
name what happened, take responsibility,
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陳述發生了什麼事、扛起責任,
08:51
state what you would do
differently the next time.
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說明你下次會如何改變。
08:53
It could come together like this.
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實際上的呈現可能會像這樣:
08:55
"Hey.
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「嘿。
08:56
I keep thinking about what happened
the other night in the kitchen.
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我一直在想那晚在廚房裡發生的事。
09:00
I'm sorry I yelled.
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我很抱歉我對你大吼。
09:02
I'm sure that felt scary.
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我相信那感覺很可怕。
那不是你的錯。
09:04
And it wasn't your fault.
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09:06
I'm working on staying calm,
even when I'm frustrated."
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我正在努力練習即使是在我
沮喪的時候也要保持冷靜。」
花十五秒鐘做這件事
就能有一生的影響。
09:10
A 15-second intervention
can have a lifelong impact.
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09:14
I've replaced my child's
story of self-blame
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我把我孩子的自責版敘事改寫成
09:17
with a story of self-trust
and safety and connection.
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相信自己、安全感,及連結的故事。
09:21
I mean, what a massive upgrade.
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這不就大大升級了嗎?
09:24
And to give a little more clarity
around how to repair,
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為了更清楚說明如何做修復,
09:27
I want to share a few examples
of what I call "not repair,"
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讓我分享幾個「沒有修復」的例子,
09:31
which are things that come
more naturally to most of us --
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這些對我們來說都是較自然的反應——
09:34
definitely me included.
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對我肯定也是如此。
09:36
"Hey, I'm sorry I yelled at you
in the kitchen,
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「嘿,很抱歉我在廚房裡對你大吼,
但若你不抱怨晚餐,
就不會發生這種事了。」
09:39
but if you wouldn't have
complained about dinner,
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09:41
it wouldn't have happened."
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09:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:43
Been there? Been there? OK.
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做過這種事嗎?好。
09:45
Or "You know, you really need to be
grateful for things in your life,
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或者:
「你真的需要對人生中的事物
多點感恩,比如家常菜。
09:49
like a home-cooked meal.
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09:50
Then, you won't get yelled at."
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那你就不會被吼了。」
09:52
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:54
Not only do these interventions
fail at the goal of reconnection,
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這些做法不但沒有能
達成重新連結的目標,
還影射你的反應是孩子造成的,
09:58
they also insinuate that your child
caused your reaction,
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這不是事實,
10:02
which simply isn’t true
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10:03
and isn't a model of emotion regulation
we want to pass on to the next generation.
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也不是我們想示範
給下一代看的情緒調整方式。
10:09
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
10:12
So let's say we've all resisted
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假設我們都不用「總之是你的錯」
這種沒有修復作用的做法,
10:14
the "it was your fault,
anyway" not-repairs,
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10:17
and have instead prioritized
a repair that allows us to reconnect.
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改成把修復關係放在第一優先,
讓我們能重新連繫,
10:21
What might the impact be?
What might that look like in adulthood?
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會有什麼影響?
這影響在成年期會呈現出什麼改變?
10:27
My adult child won’t spiral in self-blame
when they make a mistake,
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我孩子長大成人後就算犯錯
也不會陷入自我怪罪的漩渦,
10:31
and won’t take on blame
for someone else’s mistake.
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也不會為他人的錯誤背黑鍋。
10:35
My adult child will know how to take
responsibility for their behavior,
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我的孩子長大後會知道如何扛起責任,
為自己的行為負責,因為你
示範了怎麼為你的行為負責。
10:39
because you've modeled
how to take responsibility for yours.
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10:45
Repairing with a child today
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現在和你的孩子進行修復,是在為
這些重要的成人關係模式做準備。
10:46
sets the stage for these critical
adult relationship patterns.
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10:51
Plus, it gets better --
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此外,還有更好的——
10:53
now that I've reconnected with my son,
I can do something really impactful.
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既然我已經和我的兒子重新連結了,
我就能做些很有影響力的事。
10:59
I can teach him a skill
he didn't have in the first place,
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我可以教他他本來沒有的技能,
11:02
which is how kids
actually change their behavior.
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孩子就是這樣改變他們的行為。
11:06
So maybe the next day,
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所以,也許隔天,我說:
11:07
I say "You know, you're not always
going to like what I make for dinner.
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「你不見得每次都會喜歡我做的晚餐。
11:10
Instead of saying 'that's disgusting,'
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那你下次能不能別說『好噁』,
11:13
I wonder if you could say
'not my favorite.'"
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改說『這不是我愛的』?」
11:16
Now I'm teaching him how to regulate
his understandable disappointment,
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他的失望是可理解的,
我現在就教他如何調整失望,
11:20
and communicate effectively
and respectfully with another person.
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以及怎麼有效且尊重地和他人溝通。
11:24
That never would have happened if instead,
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如果我當時沒有
把我的反應怪罪在他身上,
這些都不會發生。
11:27
I had been blaming him for my reaction.
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11:31
So here's the point where you might have
a lingering concern.
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講到此,各位可能
有個揮之不去的疑慮。
也許你在想:
11:34
Maybe you're thinking,
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11:35
"You know, I have a feeling
that my kid's older than your kid."
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「我覺得我小孩的年紀比你的還大。」
11:38
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:40
"I think it's too late."
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「我覺得已經太遲了。」
11:42
Or "I have done a lot worse
than you did in the kitchen."
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或者:
「我做的比你在廚房做的
還要糟糕太多了。」
11:46
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)「也許已經太遲了。」
11:47
"Maybe it's too late."
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11:49
Well, I mean this --
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我是說真的——若這場演說
你只能記住一個重點,
11:50
if you have only one takeaway
from this talk,
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11:52
please let this be it:
It is not too late.
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請記得這一點:不會太遲。
11:55
It is never too late.
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永遠不會太遲。
11:58
How do I know?
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我怎麼知道?
12:00
Well, imagine, right after this,
you get a call from one of your parents,
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想像一下,演說結束後你馬上
接到你父親或母親的來電,
12:05
and if neither of your parents are alive,
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如果他們都不在了,
改成想像找到一封你之前
都沒看過的信並將它拆開。
12:07
imagine finding and opening a letter
you hadn't seen till that moment.
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12:11
OK, walk through this
with me, here's the call.
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好,配合我想像一下,電話內容是:
12:14
"Hey,
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「嘿,
12:16
I know this sounds out of the blue,
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我知道這聽起來很突然,
12:19
but I've been thinking a lot
about your childhood.
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但我一直在思考你的童年。
我覺得有很多時刻,
12:23
And I think there were a lot of moments
that felt really bad to you.
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你真的很煎熬。
12:29
And you are right to feel that way.
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你的感覺沒有錯。
12:33
Those moments weren't your fault.
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那些時候都不是你的問題。
12:36
They were times when I was struggling,
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那時候我也過得很煎熬,
如果我能回到過去,
12:38
and if I could have gone back,
I would have stepped aside,
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我會退一步,讓自己
冷靜下來之後再去找你,
12:40
I would have calmed myself down,
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12:42
and then found you to help you
with whatever you were struggling with.
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協助你處理你正在掙扎的事。
12:46
I'm sorry.
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我很抱歉。
12:48
And if you're ever willing to talk to me
about any of those moments,
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如果你想跟我聊那些事情,我會專心聽。
12:52
I'll listen.
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12:53
I won't listen to have a rebuttal.
I'll listen to understand.
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我專心聽不是為了要抗辯,
而是想要了解。
12:57
I love you."
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我愛你。」
12:59
I don't know many adults
who don't have a fairly visceral reaction
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我認識的大多數成人對這個練習
都會有很發自內心的反應。
13:02
to that exercise.
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13:04
I often hear, “Why am I crying?”
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我常聽到的是:「我怎麼哭了?」
13:08
Or "Listen, that wouldn't
change everything.
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或者:
「那不會改變一切,
13:12
But it might change some things."
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但也許能改變一些什麼。」
13:15
Well, I definitely
do not specialize in math,
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數學肯定不是我的強項,
13:19
but here's something
I know with certainty.
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但有件事我很肯定。
13:21
If you have a child,
that child is younger than you are.
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如果你有孩子,
那個孩子一定比你年輕。
13:26
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:28
Always true.
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絕對錯不了。
13:31
The story of their life is shorter
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他們的人生歷程比你的短,
13:34
and even more amenable to editing.
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更有機會修改、編輯。
13:38
So if that imagined exercise
had an impact on you,
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如果剛才的想像練習對你有所影響,
13:42
imagine the impact an actual repair
will have on your child.
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想像一下真正去做的修復
會對你的孩子有什麼影響。
13:49
See?
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對嗎?我剛說過,永遠不會太遲。
13:50
I told you, it's never too late.
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13:53
Thank you.
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謝謝。
13:54
(Cheers and applause)
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(歡呼及掌聲)
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