Could we treat spinal cord injuries with asparagus? | Andrew Pelling

76,675 views ・ 2020-12-11

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譯者: Bruce Sung 審譯者: Helen Chang
00:12
So I'm here today surrounded by all these fruits and vegetables,
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今天我在這裡 坐在一堆蔬果之中,
00:16
because these are the subjects of my experiments.
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因為它們是我實驗的對象。
00:19
Now, bear with me for just a second,
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先容我花點時間從頭說起,
00:22
but about a decade ago
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大約十年前,
00:23
my team started to rethink how we make materials
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我的研究團隊開始重新思考 如何製作新材料
00:27
for reconstructing damaged or diseased human tissues,
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用來重建人體受傷病損害的組織,
00:31
and we made the totally unexpected discovery
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結果我們有了完全出乎意料的發現
00:34
that plants could be used for this purpose.
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也就是植物可以做這個用途。
00:37
In fact, we invented a way to take these plants
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其實,我們發明了一種 處理植物的方式,
00:40
and strip them of all their DNA and their cells,
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去除它們所有的 DNA 和細胞,
00:43
leaving behind natural fibers.
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只保留天然纖維。
00:46
And these fibers could then be used as a scaffold
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再以這些纖維作為支架,
00:49
for reconstructing living tissue.
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來重建活組織。
00:51
Now I know this is a little weird,
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我知道這有點怪,
00:53
but in our very first proof-of-concept experiment,
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但我們所做的第一個 概念驗證實驗,
00:56
we took an apple,
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便是拿蘋果,
00:57
carved it into the shape of a human ear,
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雕成人類耳朵的形狀,
01:00
and then we took that ear-shaped scaffold,
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然後將這個耳朵形狀的支架
01:03
sterilized it, processed it
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消毒,做處理
01:04
and coaxed human cells to grow inside of it.
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並誘導人類細胞在其中生長。
01:07
We then took the next step and implanted it,
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接著我們將它移植,
01:10
and we were able to demonstrate
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藉以展示
01:12
that the scaffolds stimulated the formation of blood vessels,
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這些支架刺激了血管的形成,
01:15
allowing the heart to keep them alive.
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進而能靠心臟存活。
01:18
So not too long after these discoveries were taking place,
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有了那些發現後不久,
01:21
I was at home cooking asparagus for dinner,
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有一回我在家煮蘆筍當晚餐,
01:24
and after cutting the ends off,
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在切去了蘆筍頭之後,
01:26
I was noticing that the stalks were full of these microchanneled vascular bundles.
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我注意到這些蘆筍的莖裡 佈滿了微通道的維管束。
01:30
And it really reminded me
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這讓我想到了
01:32
of a whole body of bioengineering effort aimed at treating spinal cord injury.
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生物工程所投注於 脊髓損傷治療的大量努力。
01:37
Up to half a million people per year suffer from this type of injury,
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每年有多達五百萬人受這種傷,
01:41
and the symptoms can range from pain and numbness
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症狀由痛、麻
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to devastating traumas
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到嚴重創傷
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that lead to a complete loss of motor function and independence.
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所導致的完全喪失 運動機能及自理能力。
對於這類型的癱瘓,
01:50
And in these forms of paralysis,
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01:51
there's no accepted treatment strategy,
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目前還沒有可接受的治療策略,
01:54
but one possible solution
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但有種可能的解決方式,
01:57
might be the use of a scaffold that has microchannels
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便是採用含有微通道的支架,
02:00
which may guide regenerating neurons.
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來引導神經元的再生。
02:03
So, could we use the asparagus and its vascular bundles
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所以,我們可以使用 蘆筍和它的維管束
02:07
to repair a spinal cord?
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來修復脊髓嗎?
02:10
This is a really dumb idea.
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這是個很笨的主意。
02:13
First of all, humans aren't plants.
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首先,人類不是植物。
02:16
Our cells have not evolved to grow on plant polymers,
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我們的細胞還沒進化到 能生長在植物聚合物上,
02:19
and plant tissues have no business being found in your spinal cord.
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而且你的脊髓裡不該有植物組織。
02:23
And secondly,
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其次,
02:24
ideally these types of scaffolds should disappear over time,
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在理想情況下, 這樣的支架應該隨時間消失,
02:27
leaving behind natural, healthy tissue.
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只留下天然、健康的組織。
02:30
But plant-based scaffolds don't do that,
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但植物做成的支架不會消失,
02:32
because we lack the enzymes to break them down.
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因為我們缺乏分解它們的酵素。
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Funnily enough,
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有意思的是,
02:36
these properties were exactly why we were having so much success.
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這些特性恰好是 我們能成功的原因。
02:40
Over the course of many experiments,
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經過無數次的實驗,
02:43
we were able to demonstrate
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我們可以展示
02:44
that the inertness of plant tissue is exactly why it's so biocompatible.
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正是植物組織的惰性 使它具有高度的生物相容性。
02:49
In a way, the body almost doesn't even see it,
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可以說身體幾乎看不見它的存在,
02:52
but regenerating cells benefit from its shape and stability.
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而它的形狀和穩定性 卻有益於細胞再生。
02:57
Now this is all well and good,
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雖然這些都很好,
02:58
but I constantly felt this weight of doubt
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但每想到脊髓
我還是難免有所遲疑。
03:01
when it came to thinking about spinal cords.
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03:03
So many scientists were using materials from traditional sources,
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許多科學家採用傳統來源的材料,
03:07
like synthetic polymers and animal products --
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像是合成聚合體以及動物產品 --
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even human cadavers.
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甚至人類的屍體。
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I felt like a complete outsider
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我覺得自己全然是局外人,
03:13
with no real right to work on such a hard problem.
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根本沒資格來研究這樣的難題。
03:17
But because of this doubt,
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然而正是因為這樣的自我懷疑,
03:19
I surrounded myself with neurosurgeons and clinicians,
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讓我去找來許多 神經外科醫師和臨床醫師,
生物化學家和生物工程師,
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biochemists and bioengineers,
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03:24
and we started to plan experiments.
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一起開始做實驗計劃。
03:26
The basic idea is that we would take an animal,
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基本的構想是找一隻動物,
03:29
anesthetize it,
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將牠麻醉,
03:31
expose its spinal cord
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露出牠的脊髓,
03:32
and sever it in the thoracic region,
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在脊索胸區切斷,
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rendering the animal a paraplegic.
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使牠後軀麻痺。
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We would then implant an asparagus scaffold
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我們接著植入一個蘆筍支架
置於被切斷的脊髓中
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between the severed ends of the spinal cord
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03:42
to act as a bridge.
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作為橋接。
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Now this is crucially important.
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這是至關重要的。
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We're only using asparagus.
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我們只用了蘆筍。
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We're not adding stem cells or electrical stimulation
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我們沒加入任何幹細胞或電流刺激
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or exoskeletons
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或外骨骼
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or physical therapy
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或物理治療
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or pharmaceuticals.
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或藥物。
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We're simply investigating
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我們只是單純在研究
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if the microchannels in the scaffold alone
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是否單靠支架中的微通道
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are enough to guide the regeneration of neurons.
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便足以引導神經元再生。
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And here are the main results.
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主要的結果如下。
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In this video, you can see an animal about eight weeks after being paralyzed.
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影片中的動物 已經癱瘓了大約八週。
你可以看到牠後腿不能動,
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You can see she can't move her back legs,
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牠也沒法支撐起自己。
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and she can't lift herself up.
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04:14
Now I know how difficult this video is to watch.
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我知道這影片讓人不忍卒睹。
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My team struggled every day with these types of experiments,
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我的團隊每天 做這種實驗都要掙扎,
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and we constantly asked ourselves why we were doing this ...
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一直問自己為什麼要做這個 ...
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until we started to observe something extraordinary.
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直到我們開始觀察到 非同尋常的東西。
這是一隻接受過移植的動物。
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This is an animal that received an implant.
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04:33
Now she's not walking perfectly,
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雖然牠走路並不完美,
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but she's moving those back legs
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但牠的後腿已經能動
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and she's even starting to lift herself up.
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牠甚至也開始能撐起自己的身體。
在跑步機上,
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And on a treadmill,
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you can see those legs moving in a coordinated fashion.
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你可以看見那些腿的協調動作。
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These are crucial signs of recovery.
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這些都是復原的關鍵跡象。
我們還有很多工作要做,
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Now we still have a lot of work to do,
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and there are a lot of questions to answer,
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也還有許多疑問要解答,
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but this is the first time anyone has shown
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但這是首次有人展示
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that plant tissues can be used to repair such a complex injury.
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可以利用植物組織來修復 如此複雜的損傷。
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Even so, we've been sitting on this data for over five years.
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儘管如此,我們把這個數據 壓了超過五年才公布出來。
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Doubt drove us to repeat these experiments again and again,
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存疑使我們一再重複這些實驗,
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to the point of almost bankrupting my lab.
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做到我實驗室幾乎破產。
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But I kept pushing,
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但我不放棄,
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because I knew these results could be the start of something extraordinary.
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因為我知道這些結果 將會開啟非凡的將來。
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And what's just as exciting
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同樣令人興奮的是
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is that my company is now translating these discoveries into the clinic --
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我的公司正在將 這些發現轉入臨床 --
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into the real world.
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也就是現實世界中。
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This technology has just been designated a breakthrough medical device by the FDA.
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這個技術剛剛被 FDA 認定為 一項突破性的醫療裝置。
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And this designation means
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這項認定意味著
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that right now we're in the midst of planning human clinical trials
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我們現在正在計劃做人體臨床實驗
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set to begin in about two years.
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目標訂在兩年後開始。
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So I'd like to show you a prototype
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我要請大家來看這個原型
05:43
of one of our state-of-the-art spinal cord implants.
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那是我們最先進的脊髓植體之一。
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It's still made from asparagus
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它仍是以蘆筍製成
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and contains all of those microchannels.
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裡頭全是那些微通道。
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And you can see that it moves and bends
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大家看得到它能動能彎
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and has the same feel as human tissue.
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有和人體組織一樣的的觸感。
你知道,
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And you know,
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05:57
I think the real innovation is that we're now able to design
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我想真正的創新在於我們可以
將植物組織的架構和結構 設計或編排得
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or program the architecture and structure of plant tissues in such a way
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06:05
that they could direct cell growth to address an unmet medical need.
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可以導引細胞生長, 來解決尚未滿足的醫療需求。
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As scientists,
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身為科學家,
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we spend our lives living on a knife's edge.
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我們一生都活在刀口上。
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On the one hand,
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從一方面來說,
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it's our job to fundamentally broaden the horizons
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我們的職責是從根本上拓展
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of human knowledge,
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人類的知識。
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but at the same time, we're trained to doubt --
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但同時我們又被 訓練成要去質疑 --
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to doubt our data, to doubt our experiments,
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質疑我們的資料, 質疑我們的實驗,
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to doubt our own conclusions.
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也質疑我們自己所做的結論.
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We spend our lives crushed under the weight
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我們一生背負這個重擔
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of constant, unrelenting, never-ending anxiety, uncertainty and self-doubt.
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承擔不斷的、無情的、無止境的 焦慮、不確定和自我懷疑。
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And this is something I really struggle with.
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這是我一直很掙扎的地方。
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But I think almost every scientist can tell you
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但我想幾乎每位科學家都能告訴你
06:39
about the time they ignored those doubts
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他們曾不顧所有的質疑
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and did the experiment that would never work.
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去做不可能成功的實驗。
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And the thing is, every now and then,
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而結果呢,三不五時地
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one of those experiments works out.
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偏偏就有些實驗成功了。
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The challenge we face is that while doubt can be destructive
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我們面對的挑戰在於儘管質疑
06:51
to your mental health,
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對我們的精神健康有害,
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it's also the reason why scientific rigor is such a potent tool for discovery.
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卻也將科學嚴謹造就成 強而有力的探索工具。
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It forces us to ask the difficult questions
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它迫使我們去問難解答的問題
07:01
and repeat experiments.
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又將實驗一做再做。
一點也不容易。
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Nothing about that is easy.
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07:05
And often it becomes our responsibility
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我們經常不得不挑起這個重任
07:08
to bear the burden of the hard and sometimes heart-wrenching experiment.
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去進行艱難而又令人痛心的實驗。
07:13
This ultimately leads to the creation of new knowledge,
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這最終促成了新知識的產生,
07:17
and in some really rare cases,
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而且在一些非常罕見的情況下,
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the type of innovation that just might change a person's life.
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也會造就可以改變人生的創新。
07:24
Thank you.
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謝謝大家。
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