The Science Behind How Sickness Shapes Your Mood | Keely Muscatell | TED

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翻译人员: Li Jiaying 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
00:03
Alright, I'd like you to take a moment.
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好的,我想让大家花点时间,
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Think about a time when you were recently sick.
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想想你最近一次生病的时候。
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Try specifically to think of a time when,
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试着想一想具体哪一次,
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even though you weren't feeling all that great,
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尽管你觉得不是特别舒服,
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you still felt well enough to get up out of bed,
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但你仍然感觉还行 至少还能起床,
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go about your day.
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开始新的一天。
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OK, what was your mood like?
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好吧,你的心情怎么样?
00:24
Did you feel a little sad or depressed?
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你感到有点悲伤或沮丧吗?
00:28
What types of social interactions did you want to have?
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你想进行什么类型的社交互动?
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Would you have wanted to go to a cocktail party full of strangers
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你想参加一个 全是陌生人的鸡尾酒会
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or out on a first date?
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还是出门进行第一次约会?
00:39
I'm a psychology professor
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我是一名心理学教授
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at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,
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来自北卡罗来纳大学 教堂山分校。
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and for the past 15 years,
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在过去的 15 年中,
00:45
I've been studying the interconnections between physiological changes
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我一直在研究生病期间 身体发生的生理变化
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happening in the body during sickness
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与心理和社会健康
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and psychological and social well-being.
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之间的相互关系。
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Specifically my lab studies social psychoneuroimmunology,
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具体而言,我的实验室研究的是 社交心理神经免疫学,
01:01
which is a mouthful to say,
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这个词说起来有点拗口,
01:03
and is a field of research that's dedicated
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这是一片致力于
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to discovering interactions between our social experiences,
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发现我们社会经历、心理过程
01:10
psychological processes and the immune system.
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和免疫系统之间相互作用的研究领域。
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Today, I want to tell you about some research showing
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今天,我想告诉你一些研究表明
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that the same physiological changes happening in your body
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在你体内发生的同样的生理变化
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that cause the physical symptoms you have when you're sick,
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导致生病时产生的身体症状
01:25
are also shaping your mood and your social behavior.
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也在影响你的情绪和社交行为。
01:29
In other words, changes in the immune system
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换句话说,免疫系统的变化
01:32
can signal to the brain to cause us to think,
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可以向大脑发出信号, 让我们用不同的方式
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feel and act differently.
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去思考、感知和行动。
01:39
And not only that, but also our social experiences can cause changes
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不仅如此,我们的社交经历也会导致
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in our immune systems.
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我们的免疫系统发生变化。
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So purely psychological things happening in our brains
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因此,我们大脑中 发生的纯粹心理变化
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can cause the immune system to ramp up or ramp down.
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可能会导致免疫系统 增强或减弱。
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Because of that, we can get caught in these vicious cycles
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正因为如此,我们可能 会陷入恶性循环,
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where our psychological experiences can cause changes in our immune system,
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在这过程中,我们的心理经历 会导致我们的免疫系统发生变化,
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and those immunological shifts can cause changes
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而这些免疫的改变可能 让我们的内心体验
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to our psychological experiences.
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发生变化。
02:11
Now the component of the immune system
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现在,大多数心理神经免疫学研究
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that most research in psycho- neuroimmunology focuses on
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关注的免疫系统组成部分
02:17
is the inflammatory response or inflammation.
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是炎症反应或炎症。
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The inflammatory response is your immune system's
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炎症反应是免疫系统
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first line of defense against injury or infection,
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抵御受伤或感染的第一道防线,
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and it's coordinated by these molecules
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它是由这些被称为
02:30
that are called pro-inflammatory cytokines.
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促炎细胞因子的分子来协调的。
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You can think of cytokines as sort of the chemical messengers
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你可以将细胞因子视为
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of the immune system.
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免疫系统的化学信使。
02:38
So they're out there right now, swimming through your bloodstream.
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它们现在就在那, 在你的血液中游动。
02:42
And if an immune cell finds something weird or out of the ordinary,
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如果免疫细胞发现 一些奇怪或不寻常的东西,
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they'll tell those cytokines to signal to other immune cells
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它们会告诉这些细胞因子 向其他免疫细胞发出信号
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to come and check it out.
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让它们过来检查一下。
02:53
So if you think about a time you've had a paper cut,
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所以如果你回想一下 被纸割伤的经历,
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you may have noticed that the area around the cut swells,
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你可能会注意到 切口周围的区域会肿胀,
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it turns red, it heats up.
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变红,发热。
03:02
That's the inflammatory response in action.
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这就是炎症反应在发挥作用。
03:05
And those symptoms are caused by your cytokines doing their job,
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而这些症状是由于 你的细胞因子正发挥作用,
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sending out signals to other immune cells to come and heal the cut.
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向其他免疫细胞发出信号, 让它们来愈合伤口。
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The same thing happens if your immune cells find a virus
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如果你的免疫细胞 在体内发现病毒或细菌
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or a bacteria in the body.
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也会发生同样的情况。
03:21
They send out cytokines to signal to other immune cells
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它们发出细胞因子 向其他免疫细胞发出信号
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to come and try and eliminate the pathogen.
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让它们前来尝试消灭病原体。
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Now in doing this, cytokines cause
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这样做,细胞因子会导致
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the physical symptoms we commonly have when we're sick.
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我们生病时通常出现的身体症状。
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Things like fever and achiness and fatigue.
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诸如发烧、疼痛和疲劳之类。
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So even though we usually think of those symptoms as being caused by a virus
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因此,尽管我们通常认为 这些症状是由某种病毒
03:45
or a bacteria itself,
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或细菌本身引起的
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they're actually caused by our own immune systems
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但它们实际上是由于 我们自己的免疫系统
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activating to try to eliminate the pathogen.
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被激活以试图消灭病原体导致的。
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But in addition to those physical symptoms,
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但除了这些身体症状外,
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decades of research,
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数十年来
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in both animals and humans,
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对动物和人类的研究
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clearly shows that cytokines also cause changes to our mood
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清楚地表明,细胞因子也会引起我们情绪
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and to our social behavior.
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和社交行为的变化。
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So inflammation in the body can signal to the brain
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因此,体内的炎症 可以向大脑发出信号
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to cause us to feel down,
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使我们感到心情低落、
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depressed and even hopeless.
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郁闷甚至绝望。
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Inflammation can also make us want to socially withdraw from other people
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炎症还可能使我们 想在社交上远离他人
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to avoid interacting with individuals in our social networks.
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以避免和我们社交网中的人互动。
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So this research shows the powerful influence that the immune system can have
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因此这项研究表明,免疫系统 可以对我们的情绪和社交行为
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on our mood and on our social behavior.
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产生强大的影响。
04:38
Changes in inflammation in the body
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体内的炎症变化
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can signal to the brain to cause us to feel depressed and even lonely.
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可以向大脑发出信号 使我们感到忧郁甚至孤独。
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OK, so you may be wondering,
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好的,所以你可能想知道
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why on Earth would your body do this?
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到底为什么你的身体会这样?
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Why would you want your immune system to be able to manipulate your brain
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为什么你让你的免疫系统 能够去操纵你的大脑
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and cause you to feel sad and distant from other people in your life?
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让你感到悲伤并想要 疏远生活中的其他人?
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While we can't know for sure why this happens,
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虽然我们无法确定 为什么会发生这种情况,
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evolutionary theory provides some good food for thought.
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进化论提供了 一些很好的思考依据。
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The fact is,
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事实是,
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revving up and running the immune system takes a lot of energy.
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加速和运行免疫系统 需要大量能量。
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Getting cytokines to swim through the bloodstream
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让细胞因子在血液中游动
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and send signals to immune cells takes calories.
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并向免疫细胞发送信号 会消耗卡路里。
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And what else takes calories?
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还有什么需要卡路里呢?
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Pretty much everything.
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几乎所有东西。
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Especially things like going out and seeking pleasurable experiences,
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尤其是诸如外出和寻找愉快体验、
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interacting with strangers
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与陌生人互动
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and just generally moving about the world.
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或只是寻常地探索世界之类的。
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So the theory is that the immune system is telling the brain to feel depressed
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因此理论是,免疫系统 会告诉大脑感到沮丧
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and to withdraw from socializing
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并退出社交活动,
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because it wants you to stay at home and rest.
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因为它希望你待在家里休息。
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And if things that would normally sound fun
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而且如果平常听起来很有趣的事
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just don't seem all that fun,
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看起来不那么有趣了,
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and if interacting with other people seems exhausting
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如果他人互动看起来很累
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and maybe even a little threatening,
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甚至可能有点危险,
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then we'll be less likely to do those things
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那我们做这些事的可能性就会降低
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and more likely to stay at home
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而更有可能待在家里
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and let our immune systems use our calories.
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让免疫系统使用我们的卡路里。
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Now, of course, if this becomes prolonged and inflammation is elevated over weeks
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当然如果这种情况持续很久, 炎症在数周内加剧
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or even years,
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甚至数年内不断加重,
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that could have really terrible impacts on our well-being.
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那可能会对我们的健康 产生非常严重的影响。
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But in the short term,
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但在短期内,
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we think of this immune-to-brain signaling as adaptive.
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我们认为这种脑免疫信号 是自适应的。
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Your immune system is basically good at knowing when it would be a good idea
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基本上你的免疫系统很擅于决定 对你来说什么时候外出
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for you to be out interacting with the world and the people in it,
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与世界和世上的人互动 是个好主意,
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and when it would be better to just stay at home.
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以及什么时候 待在家里会更好。
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But it turns out, the influence of inflammation on our social lives
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但事实证明, 炎症对我们社交生活的影响
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isn't as simple as always making us feel more disconnected
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并不只是使我们感到更疏远
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and socially withdrawn.
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和更社交孤僻那样简单。
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One of the most important discoveries
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我们最近在这一研究领域
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that we've made in this area of research recently
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取得的最重要的发现之一
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is that inflammation might actually make us more motivated
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是炎症实际上可能使我们更有动力
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to seek some social interactions,
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去寻求某些社交互动,
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specifically those with the people who we're closest to.
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特别是与最亲近人的往来
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So it’s not that inflammation makes us less social across the board,
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因此,并不是说炎症 会让我们全面减少社交,
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it may just make us more selective about who we want to socialize with.
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它可能只会让我们选择 对自己想交往的人时更挑剔。
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To discover this, my colleagues and I ran an experiment.
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为了发现这一点, 我和同事们做了一项实验。
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We asked participants in our study
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我们要求研究的参与者
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to send us digital photographs of someone who they could go to
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向我们发送某些人的数码照片, 如果他们在需要帮助或支持时
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if they needed help or support.
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会去找的这些人。
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As you would expect, people sent us photos of their romantic partners,
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如您所料,人们给我们发送了 他们的浪漫关系的伴侣、
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their closest friends and their family.
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他们最亲密的 朋友和家人的照片。
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Then we had our participants view those images of their support figure
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然后,我们让参与者看着 他们精神支柱者的照片,
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while we tracked their brain activity using MRI scanning.
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同时我们用核磁共振成像扫描 来追踪他们的大脑活动。
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Now, critically, prior to the MRI scans,
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现在重要的是, 在核磁共振成像扫描前,
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we exposed a random half of the participants in our study
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我们随机让一半的研究参与者暴露在
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to a bacteria which cause levels of inflammation in the body to increase.
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一种会导致体内炎症水平升高的细菌下。
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The other half just had normal, low levels of inflammation.
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而另一半的炎症水平则正常且较低。
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And what we found is that for the people who we exposed to that bacteria,
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我们发现,对于接触过这种细菌
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who had lots of cytokines in their body,
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导致体内有大量细胞因子的人来说,
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they actually showed more activity in a reward-related region of the brain,
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他们实际上在大脑内 一块与奖励相关的区域会更活跃,
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called the ventral striatum,
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即腹侧纹状体,
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when they viewed images of their support figures
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当他们看到自己精神支柱的照片时
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relative to the people who had low levels of inflammation.
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相较于那些炎症水平低的人 此区域会表现出更多的活性。
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So what this suggests
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因此,这表明
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is that while inflammation might make social interactions with strangers
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尽管炎症可能会使 与陌生人的社交互动
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seem less rewarding,
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显得不那么有益,
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it doesn't necessarily make all social interactions seem less rewarding.
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但它并不一定会使 所有社交互动的回报降低。
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In fact, inflammation may make us more motivated to seek interactions
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实际上,炎症可能使我们 更有动力去寻求
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with people who could provide us with comfort or care.
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和能为我们提供 安慰或护理的人进行互动。
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Those who could be a shortcut to chicken soup.
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那些会给我们 提供便利或炖鸡汤的人。
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But of course, it's not every day
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但当然,并不是每天
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that we come into contact with a virus or a bacteria,
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我们都会接触到病毒或细菌,
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or that we have a wound
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我们也不是每天都有
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that causes our levels of inflammation to increase.
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导致炎症水平升高的伤口。
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So how much of a day-to-day influence on our social lives
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那么,免疫系统实际上 对我们的社交生活
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does the immune system actually have?
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有多少日常影响呢?
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Research shows that the answer is a lot more than you might think.
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研究表明,答案是 影响要比你想象的要多得多。
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That's because one of the most robust findings
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那是因为所有心理神经免疫学研究中
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in all of psychoneuroimmunology research
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最有力的发现之一
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is that stress causes inflammation.
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是压力会导致炎症。
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So purely psychological things happening in the brain
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因此,仅是大脑中出现的心理影响
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can cause increases in cytokines in the body.
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也会导致体内细胞因子的增加。
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This is true across species,
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这发生在所有物种之间,
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from rodents to primates to humans.
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从啮齿动物到灵长类再到人类都是如此。
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In my lab and in others across the globe,
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在我和全球其他地方的实验室,
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we study the effects of stress on inflammation
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我们为了研究压力对炎症的影响,
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by asking people to come into the lab and give a ten-minute,
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要求人们进入实验室发表十分钟的
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off-the-cuff speech
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即兴演讲,
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about why they'd be a good candidate for their dream job.
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讲述为什么他们 是自己理想工作的好人选。
10:00
And then they have to do challenging mental math out loud.
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然后他们必须大声地 做出有挑战性的数学口算。
10:04
And they do this all in front of a panel of experts who's judging them.
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并且他们要在评判他们的 专家组面前完成这一切。
10:09
Yeah, people report that this is stressful.
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是的,测试者汇报说这很有压力。
10:12
And critically,
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至关重要的是,
10:14
in response to this psychologically stressful experience,
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为了应对这种心理压力的经历,
10:18
we see that levels of cytokines in the body have increased.
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我们发现体内细胞因子的水平有所增加。
10:25
Let's take a second and really appreciate that remarkable finding.
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让我们花点时间真正欣赏 这一非凡的发现。
10:31
In the absence of anything physically wrong with the body --
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在身体机能没有任何问题的情况下,
10:35
no viruses, no bacteria, no wounds --
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没有病毒,没有细菌,没有伤口——
10:40
a purely psychological stressor
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纯粹的心理压力
10:42
is causing the inflammatory response to activate.
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会导致炎症反应被激活。
10:46
So it's not just that our immune systems are sending signals to our brain,
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因此,不仅是我们的免疫系统 向我们的大脑发送信号,
10:50
but also our brains are sending signals to our immune systems
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我们的大脑也在 向免疫系统发送信号
10:55
telling them to activate in response to stress that we encounter.
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告诉它们需要激活 以应对我们遇到的压力。
10:59
OK, so now that you know
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好的,既然你知道了
11:01
that your immune system has this very active social life
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你的免疫系统 有这样非常活跃的社交生活
11:04
and that your brain and your immune system are constantly communicating
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并且你的大脑和免疫系统不断地
11:08
in ways that could make you feel depressed or lonely,
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用一种可能让你感到 沮丧或孤独的方式进行沟通,
11:13
what should you do?
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你该怎么办?
11:16
For me, knowing about the social life of the immune system
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对我来说,了解免疫系统的社交生活
11:19
has changed my life,
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改变了我的生活,
11:21
in part because it gives me an explanation
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部分原因是它向我解释了
11:24
for why I might feel physically crummy at the end of a stressful day,
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为什么在紧张的一天结束后 我可能会感到身体不适,
11:29
or why I might feel a little down
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又或者为什么我可能会感到有些情绪低落
11:32
and disconnected from other people when I'm feeling physically unwell.
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且不想和他人联系, 当我感到身体不适的时候。
11:37
So, for example,
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因此,举例来说,
11:38
the experience of giving this talk today has been really rewarding
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今天发表这个演讲的经历 确实很有收获
11:44
and also quite challenging.
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也很有挑战性。
11:46
You might even say it was, at times, stressful.
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你甚至可能会说, 有些时候压力很大。
11:50
And I'm sure you've had similar experiences in your lives.
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而且我敢肯定,你在生活中 也有过类似的经历。
11:54
Maybe it was a difficult task you had to complete at work,
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可能是你在工作中 必须完成的艰巨任务,
11:58
a confrontation with a spouse or a family member,
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与配偶或家庭成员发生冲突,
12:01
or just some problem that cropped up in your life
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或者只是生活中突然出现的一些问题
12:04
that you had to quickly figure out how to solve.
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使你必须迅速想办法解决。
12:08
Based on what I've told you here today,
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根据我今天在这里告诉你的内容,
12:10
I hope you're predicting that in response to these stressful experiences,
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我希望你能预测到, 为了应对这些紧张的经历,
12:14
we're likely to have high levels of inflammation in our bodies.
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我们体内可能会出现高水平的炎症。
12:18
Our cytokines will have come out in full force
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我们的细胞因子将全力发挥作用,
12:21
in response to the stress we've experienced.
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以应对我们所经历的压力。
12:25
And because of that,
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因此,
12:27
if we then feel exhausted
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如果我们随后感到精疲力尽,
12:31
and a bit like we've failed
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有点像我们没做好,
12:34
and we don't want to go anywhere or see anyone or do anything,
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我们不想去任何地方, 见任何人,或做任何事,
12:38
and we just want to stay at home and relax on the couch
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只想待在家里,和最亲近的人
12:41
with the people who we're closest to,
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一起在沙发上放松一下,
12:44
we'll know why.
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我们就会知道原因。
12:47
And because we know that those symptoms are likely just our immune systems
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而且,因为我们知道 这些症状很可能只是我们的免疫系统
12:52
telling our brains to feel depressed
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正告诉我们的大脑要感到沮丧
12:54
and to withdraw from social interactions
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并退出社交互动,
12:57
so that we stay at home to rest, relax and recuperate,
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这样我们就可以待在家里休息、 放松和恢复精力,
13:01
we don't have to agonize
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我们不必苦恼
13:03
over why we're maybe feeling a little down on ourselves,
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为什么我们有点沮丧,
13:06
or a little distant from other people.
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或与他人有些疏远。
13:09
We can rest assured that
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我们可以放心,
13:12
in the coming days,
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在接下来的几天里,
13:14
we'll be feeling much more like ourselves again
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我们会再次感觉自己好起来,
13:17
as our cytokine levels go back down.
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随着细胞因子水平的降低回归正常。
13:21
So in the future,
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因此,将来,
13:22
when you encounter stress in your life
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当你在生活中遇到压力
13:24
and you feel those reins of inflammation start to take hold,
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并感觉到炎症 如缰绳一般开始控制你时,
13:28
I hope you remember what I've told you here today.
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我希望你记住 我今天在这里告诉你的话。
13:32
And you remind yourself that those symptoms you're experiencing,
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然后你提醒自己, 这些你正在经历的症状,
13:36
that's likely just your immune system
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很可能只是你的免疫系统
13:39
doing its job,
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正在发挥作用,
13:41
telling your brain to feel depressed and withdrawn
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告诉你的大脑 感到沮丧和退缩,
13:45
as evolution intended,
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正如进化的目的,
13:47
to keep you healthy in the long term.
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以保持你的长期健康。
13:50
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
13:52
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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