The Science Behind How Sickness Shapes Your Mood | Keely Muscatell | TED

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Alright, I'd like you to take a moment.
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Think about a time when you were recently sick.
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Try specifically to think of a time when,
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even though you weren't feeling all that great,
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you still felt well enough to get up out of bed,
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go about your day.
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OK, what was your mood like?
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Did you feel a little sad or depressed?
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What types of social interactions did you want to have?
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Would you have wanted to go to a cocktail party full of strangers
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or out on a first date?
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I'm a psychology professor
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at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,
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and for the past 15 years,
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I've been studying the interconnections between physiological changes
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happening in the body during sickness
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and psychological and social well-being.
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Specifically my lab studies social psychoneuroimmunology,
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which is a mouthful to say,
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and is a field of research that's dedicated
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to discovering interactions between our social experiences,
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psychological processes and the immune system.
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Today, I want to tell you about some research showing
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that the same physiological changes happening in your body
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that cause the physical symptoms you have when you're sick,
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are also shaping your mood and your social behavior.
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In other words, changes in the immune system
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can signal to the brain to cause us to think,
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feel and act differently.
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And not only that, but also our social experiences can cause changes
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in our immune systems.
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So purely psychological things happening in our brains
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can cause the immune system to ramp up or ramp down.
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Because of that, we can get caught in these vicious cycles
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where our psychological experiences can cause changes in our immune system,
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and those immunological shifts can cause changes
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to our psychological experiences.
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Now the component of the immune system
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that most research in psycho- neuroimmunology focuses on
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is the inflammatory response or inflammation.
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The inflammatory response is your immune system's
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first line of defense against injury or infection,
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and it's coordinated by these molecules
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that are called pro-inflammatory cytokines.
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You can think of cytokines as sort of the chemical messengers
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of the immune system.
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So they're out there right now, swimming through your bloodstream.
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And if an immune cell finds something weird or out of the ordinary,
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they'll tell those cytokines to signal to other immune cells
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to come and check it out.
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So if you think about a time you've had a paper cut,
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you may have noticed that the area around the cut swells,
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it turns red, it heats up.
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That's the inflammatory response in action.
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And those symptoms are caused by your cytokines doing their job,
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sending out signals to other immune cells to come and heal the cut.
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The same thing happens if your immune cells find a virus
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or a bacteria in the body.
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They send out cytokines to signal to other immune cells
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to come and try and eliminate the pathogen.
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Now in doing this, cytokines cause
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the physical symptoms we commonly have when we're sick.
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Things like fever and achiness and fatigue.
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So even though we usually think of those symptoms as being caused by a virus
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or a bacteria itself,
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they're actually caused by our own immune systems
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activating to try to eliminate the pathogen.
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But in addition to those physical symptoms,
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decades of research,
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in both animals and humans,
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clearly shows that cytokines also cause changes to our mood
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and to our social behavior.
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So inflammation in the body can signal to the brain
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to cause us to feel down,
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depressed and even hopeless.
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Inflammation can also make us want to socially withdraw from other people
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to avoid interacting with individuals in our social networks.
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So this research shows the powerful influence that the immune system can have
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on our mood and on our social behavior.
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Changes in inflammation in the body
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can signal to the brain to cause us to feel depressed and even lonely.
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OK, so you may be wondering,
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why on Earth would your body do this?
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Why would you want your immune system to be able to manipulate your brain
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and cause you to feel sad and distant from other people in your life?
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While we can't know for sure why this happens,
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evolutionary theory provides some good food for thought.
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The fact is,
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revving up and running the immune system takes a lot of energy.
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Getting cytokines to swim through the bloodstream
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and send signals to immune cells takes calories.
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And what else takes calories?
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Pretty much everything.
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Especially things like going out and seeking pleasurable experiences,
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interacting with strangers
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and just generally moving about the world.
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So the theory is that the immune system is telling the brain to feel depressed
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and to withdraw from socializing
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because it wants you to stay at home and rest.
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And if things that would normally sound fun
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just don't seem all that fun,
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and if interacting with other people seems exhausting
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and maybe even a little threatening,
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then we'll be less likely to do those things
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and more likely to stay at home
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and let our immune systems use our calories.
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Now, of course, if this becomes prolonged and inflammation is elevated over weeks
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or even years,
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that could have really terrible impacts on our well-being.
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But in the short term,
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we think of this immune-to-brain signaling as adaptive.
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Your immune system is basically good at knowing when it would be a good idea
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for you to be out interacting with the world and the people in it,
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and when it would be better to just stay at home.
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But it turns out, the influence of inflammation on our social lives
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isn't as simple as always making us feel more disconnected
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and socially withdrawn.
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One of the most important discoveries
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that we've made in this area of research recently
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is that inflammation might actually make us more motivated
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to seek some social interactions,
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specifically those with the people who we're closest to.
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So it’s not that inflammation makes us less social across the board,
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it may just make us more selective about who we want to socialize with.
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To discover this, my colleagues and I ran an experiment.
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We asked participants in our study
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to send us digital photographs of someone who they could go to
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if they needed help or support.
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As you would expect, people sent us photos of their romantic partners,
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their closest friends and their family.
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Then we had our participants view those images of their support figure
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while we tracked their brain activity using MRI scanning.
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Now, critically, prior to the MRI scans,
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we exposed a random half of the participants in our study
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to a bacteria which cause levels of inflammation in the body to increase.
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The other half just had normal, low levels of inflammation.
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And what we found is that for the people who we exposed to that bacteria,
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who had lots of cytokines in their body,
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they actually showed more activity in a reward-related region of the brain,
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called the ventral striatum,
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when they viewed images of their support figures
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relative to the people who had low levels of inflammation.
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So what this suggests
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is that while inflammation might make social interactions with strangers
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seem less rewarding,
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it doesn't necessarily make all social interactions seem less rewarding.
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In fact, inflammation may make us more motivated to seek interactions
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with people who could provide us with comfort or care.
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Those who could be a shortcut to chicken soup.
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But of course, it's not every day
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that we come into contact with a virus or a bacteria,
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or that we have a wound
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that causes our levels of inflammation to increase.
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So how much of a day-to-day influence on our social lives
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does the immune system actually have?
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Research shows that the answer is a lot more than you might think.
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That's because one of the most robust findings
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in all of psychoneuroimmunology research
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is that stress causes inflammation.
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So purely psychological things happening in the brain
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can cause increases in cytokines in the body.
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This is true across species,
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from rodents to primates to humans.
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In my lab and in others across the globe,
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we study the effects of stress on inflammation
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by asking people to come into the lab and give a ten-minute,
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off-the-cuff speech
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about why they'd be a good candidate for their dream job.
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And then they have to do challenging mental math out loud.
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And they do this all in front of a panel of experts who's judging them.
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Yeah, people report that this is stressful.
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And critically,
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in response to this psychologically stressful experience,
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we see that levels of cytokines in the body have increased.
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Let's take a second and really appreciate that remarkable finding.
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In the absence of anything physically wrong with the body --
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no viruses, no bacteria, no wounds --
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a purely psychological stressor
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is causing the inflammatory response to activate.
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So it's not just that our immune systems are sending signals to our brain,
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but also our brains are sending signals to our immune systems
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telling them to activate in response to stress that we encounter.
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OK, so now that you know
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that your immune system has this very active social life
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and that your brain and your immune system are constantly communicating
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in ways that could make you feel depressed or lonely,
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what should you do?
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For me, knowing about the social life of the immune system
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has changed my life,
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in part because it gives me an explanation
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for why I might feel physically crummy at the end of a stressful day,
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or why I might feel a little down
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and disconnected from other people when I'm feeling physically unwell.
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So, for example,
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the experience of giving this talk today has been really rewarding
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and also quite challenging.
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You might even say it was, at times, stressful.
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And I'm sure you've had similar experiences in your lives.
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Maybe it was a difficult task you had to complete at work,
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a confrontation with a spouse or a family member,
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or just some problem that cropped up in your life
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that you had to quickly figure out how to solve.
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Based on what I've told you here today,
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I hope you're predicting that in response to these stressful experiences,
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we're likely to have high levels of inflammation in our bodies.
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Our cytokines will have come out in full force
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in response to the stress we've experienced.
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And because of that,
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if we then feel exhausted
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and a bit like we've failed
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and we don't want to go anywhere or see anyone or do anything,
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and we just want to stay at home and relax on the couch
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with the people who we're closest to,
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we'll know why.
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And because we know that those symptoms are likely just our immune systems
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telling our brains to feel depressed
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and to withdraw from social interactions
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so that we stay at home to rest, relax and recuperate,
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we don't have to agonize
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over why we're maybe feeling a little down on ourselves,
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or a little distant from other people.
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We can rest assured that
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in the coming days,
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we'll be feeling much more like ourselves again
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as our cytokine levels go back down.
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So in the future,
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when you encounter stress in your life
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and you feel those reins of inflammation start to take hold,
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I hope you remember what I've told you here today.
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And you remind yourself that those symptoms you're experiencing,
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that's likely just your immune system
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doing its job,
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telling your brain to feel depressed and withdrawn
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as evolution intended,
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to keep you healthy in the long term.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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