Pussy Riot's Powerful Message to Vladimir Putin | Nadya Tolokonnikova | TED

翻译人员: wu yuna 校对人员: suya f.

Please,

请大家站起来，

stand up.

If you're able.

如果可以的话。

Thank you.

谢谢。

I want you to feel like I felt,

我想让你们体验一下

when I was getting sentenced.

我在接受判决时的感觉。

It's August 17, 2012.

那是2012年8月17日，

I’m handcuffed

我戴着手铐，

and standing for four long hours while the judge is reading my sentence.

站了四个小时， 听法官宣读审判。

You're in a small cage

你被关在一个小笼子里，

and you're surrounded by 10 prison guards in balaclavas.

周围是10个头戴钢盔的警卫，

There is also a guard dog who is barking at you angrily

还有一只警犬吵着你狂吠。

because the dog is trained to be suspicious

因为这只狗受过训练，

towards people who smell like prison.

对闻起来像犯人的人格外警惕。

Even a nice little doge is angry at me.

连一只狗都能对我发火，

I'm stripped down from my humanity.

我的人格被剥夺了，

I'm reduced to being just a prisoner.

沦落为一个囚犯。

I'm 22 and I smell like prison.

我那时22岁， 身上是监狱的味道。

The prosecutor asked for three years in jail for me.

公诉人建议判我三年，

My crime is considered to be severe,

我的罪行很严重，

and it means that the judge can give me up to seven years in jail.

这意味着法官最高可以判我七年，

And as I'm standing here handcuffed behind the bars,

我戴着手铐， 站在铁栏后，

I’m thinking to myself:

心里想着：

Can one person change the world?

有人能改变这个世界吗？

Is it even worth trying?

这样的尝试有意义吗？

Or am I just setting myself up for failure?

还是说这一切都是徒劳？

Will I be able to achieve my dreams

我能实现自己的梦想吗？

or I'm going to be inevitably smashed by the system?

还是说我终将被体制击垮？

I ran away from home when I was 16 years old.

我 16 岁时就离家出走，

I jumped on a plane, went from Siberia to Moscow.

搭上一班从西伯利亚 飞往莫斯科的飞机，

I was 16 and I was a dreamer.

我当时 16 岁， 是个梦想家。

And I knew that I want two things in life.

我知道我这一生 想要两样东西。

I want to be able to dream wildly

我希望能大胆地梦想，

and to be able to make my utopian dreams come true.

并让我乌托邦式的美梦成真。

For that, I knew I needed to be in Moscow.

为了实现这一目标， 我知道自己得去莫斯科。

I was studying philosophy

我学习哲学，

and I was stealing food and clothes in order to survive.

为了生存去偷吃的和穿的。

When I turned 22,

当我 22 岁时，

I got arrested for resisting to one of the most dangerous dictators

我因反抗地球上 最危险的独裁者之一，

on planet Earth.

而被捕入狱。

At the day of my arrest, my daughter turned four.

在被捕那天， 我的女儿四岁了。

You can sit down if you want.

你们可以坐下了。

What is my crime exactly?

我的罪行是什么？

I sang a song.

我唱了一首歌。

"Virgin Mary, please get rid of Putin."

《圣母玛利，请赶走普京》

Me and four other members of Pussy Riot

我和其他四名 “暴动小猫” 的成员

came to Cathedral of Christ the Saviour,

去到基督救世主主教座堂，

and we preached to the people of Russia

我们向俄罗斯人民布道，

from the holy place that for thousands of years

几千年来，

was reserved only for the male preachers

这个圣地都是给男性传道者的，

and, in particular, for the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church,

尤其是俄罗斯东正教的大主教，

who today sends Russians to kill and to die in Ukraine.

他如今派遣俄罗斯人 在乌克兰杀戮、丧命。

We sang our song on February 21 of 2012.

在 2012 年 2 月 21 日， 我们唱响这首歌。

We did it in response to Putin's announcement

我们这样做的目的 是为了回应普京，

that he wants to rule Russia pretty much indefinitely.

他宣布将永久统治俄罗斯。

I dropped everything I was doing,

我放下了手头的一切事情，

and I promised to myself

并对自己许诺，

that I'm going to dedicate my life to resistance.

自己一生将致力于反抗。

I felt deep inside me that Putin equals death,

在我内心深处， 普京就是死亡，

medieval torture,

是中世纪的酷刑，

knife in the back, stagnation,

是背后的一刀， 是历史的停滞，

new Dark Ages for Russia.

是俄罗斯的新至暗时期。

To resist, we used our loud voices,

为了反抗， 我们大声疾呼，

bright ski masks, dresses, courage,

带上亮色头套、服装和勇气，

commitment and performance art.

以及一腔热情和表演艺术。

We would show up in public places,

我们在公共场合现身，

unannounced, guerrilla style.

出其不意， 像游击队一样，

No permits at all.

也没有拿到许可。

And perform, preach.

我们表演、布道。

We performed in government buildings, squares, shopping malls,

我们在政府大楼、广场 和购物中心表演。

and we would get arrested almost every single day,

我们几乎每天都会被抓，

get out and go back to action.

然后出来继续行动。

Our job was to show the people of Russia that resisting is indeed an option.

我们这样是为了 向俄罗斯人民证明，

反抗也是一种选择。

The supreme, sacred,

普京统治之下，

holy rule in Putin's Russia

那条至高无上、 不容亵渎的教规

is to remain afraid.

便是保持敬畏。

We decided to break this rule.

我们决定打破陈规。

By breaking this rule, we disrupted the game as such.

打破了这一规则， 我们也破坏了游戏本身。

We exposed it as a mere game.

我们揭露了其游戏的本质。

We said that the emperor is naked.

国王已经是赤裸的了。

Did we achieve what we wanted?

我们达成目的了吗？

As I'm standing behind the bars, handcuffed,

我戴着手铐， 站在铁栏后，

I'm asking myself this question.

问自己这个问题。

Yes and no.

是也不是。

As I said in my closing statement,

正如我在结案陈词中所述，

we are behind the prison bars,

尽管我们身处牢笼，

but we are freer than people who are prosecuting us

但我们比起诉我们的人更自由，

because we can say whatever we want to say

因为我们可以畅所欲言，

and they can say only things

而他们只能说

that the government censorship allows them to say.

政府审查制度允许他们说的。

Despite of the global movement in support of Pussy Riot,

尽管全球都在声援暴动小猫，

we got convicted to two years in jail.

我们还是被判了两年。

The hell was in front of me.

地狱就在眼前。

I was forced to sew police and military uniforms

我被迫缝制警服和军服，

and I was getting injured while I was doing it.

还在工作时受了伤。

But even in the darkest moments,

但哪怕在这最黑暗的时刻，

I knew that our fight is not over.

我清楚我们的斗争还没结束。

Two years later,

两年后，我出狱了。

I will get out of jail.

And I will meet thousands of young Russians

我与数千个俄罗斯青年见面，

who will tell me that they got inspired by our fight.

他们说自己受到了我的鼓舞。

Over the next ten years,

在接下来十年里，

Pussy Riot will build infrastructure, tools

暴动小猫筹备了 有效反抗所需要的物资，

and network for effective resistance.

包括基建、工具和网络。

In 2014, we started Mediazona.

2014 年，我们 成立了Mediazona。

It's unique in Russia, free of censorship,

这在俄罗斯是独特的， 不受审查约束，

[an] independent media outlet.

是一家独立的媒体。

In 2022,

2022年，

we raised seven million dollars in two days for Ukraine.

我们在两天之内为乌克兰 筹集了 700 万美元。

When reproductive rights became under attack in the United States,

当生育权在美国遭到攻击时，

we raised close to one million dollars for Planned Parenthood.

我们为Planned Parenthood 筹集了将近一百万美元。

We started Unicorn DAO

我们创立了Unicorn DAO，

and raised two million dollars to collect art made by women

并筹集了两百万美元 来收集由女性

and non-binary people.

与非二元性别者 创作的艺术品。

I really wish I could tell all of this

我真的希望我可以把这一切

to a 22-year-old version of myself

告诉那个站在铁窗之后，

that is standing behind the bars,

与她家人分离，

separated from her family,

不知道将来会发生什么的

not knowing what's going to happen next.

22岁的自己。

Much work remains to be done.

还有许多事情需要完成。

My friends and family are getting beaten,

在我的家乡， 我的朋友与家人

imprisoned,

正遭到打压、监禁、

poisoned,

被下毒、

tortured and murdered back home.

虐待与谋杀。

In March 2023,

在2023年3月，

I was put on Russia's most-wanted list.

我被列入了 俄罗斯的最高通缉名单。

I'm facing new criminal charges for the art I made.

我将因我创作的艺术 面对新的刑事指控。

Why?

为什么？

Because I said that the emperor is naked

因为我说了， 帝王是赤裸的，

and because he is, in fact, naked,

并且因为他 在事实上就是赤裸的，

he's scared of it.

而他害怕这一点。

We shattered the world of appearances

我们粉碎了这外表的世界，

and we said that living a lie is indeed living a lie.

并且我们说使谎言存活， 便会真实地活在谎言中，

And it's dangerous for any dictatorship.

这对任何独裁政体 都是危险的。

The reason why I became a threat to the system,

我成为了这一体制的威胁，

not because of any actual physical power that I have,

不是因为我实际上 有什么身体上的力量，

but because courage is contagious.

而是因为勇气 是能感染人的。

And any act of speaking the truth

任何一种说出真相的行为，

can cause incalculable transformations in social consciousness.

在社会意识上， 可以引起不可估量的转变。

And we all have this power.

而我们都有这样的力量。

It's a moral act to use this power.

使用这种力量 是道德的行为。

You may or may not achieve the results that you wanted,

你或许能够，或许不能， 达成你想要的结果，

but there is eternal beauty

但尝试寻找真相，

in trying to find truth,

为了正确的事情， 赌上你所得的一切，

in risking everything you've got for what's right,

这些有着永恒的魅力。

stop calculating your profit

停止计算你所得利益，

and just taking a leap of faith.

跨出你信仰的一步。

Courage is an ability to act in the face of fear.

勇气是一种面对恐惧时 行动的能力。

And some of us

我们当中有些人

have chosen to live courageously.

已经选择勇敢地生活。

For some of us, it's not a choice.

而对于我们有些人， 这不是一个选择，

It's a matter of survival,

这事关生死，

like for our Ukrainian friends.

比方说我们乌克兰的朋友们。

Vladimir Putin became intimidated

弗拉基米尔·普京畏惧

by Ukraine choosing the path of freedom and democracy.

乌克兰选择 一条自由与民主的道路。

That's why the Russian army bombs maternity wards, schools, hospitals,

这也是为什么俄罗斯军队 轰炸妇儿的病房、学校、医院，

rapes and kills civilians and throws their bodies in mass graves.

**并迫害当地居民， 并将他们的尸体丢入乱葬坑中。

Putin and everyone who supports him

普京与他的支持者们

are dead inside and they must be defeated.

灵魂已经消灭， 他们必须被打败。

And while I'm standing here,

当我站在这里，

I want to send a message to Vladimir Putin directly.

我想直接告诉弗拉基米尔·普京，

A wanted criminal to wanted criminal.

一个通缉犯对另一个通缉犯。

Vladimir Vladimirovich,

弗拉基米尔先生，

the Kremlin walls became your prison walls.

克林姆林的宫墙 已成为你的监狱之墙。

You have already lost.

你已经输了，

You know it.

你知道的。

That's why you're so afraid.

这就是为什么你如此害怕。

You lost in spirit.

你已经在精神上输了。

The world is on Ukraine's side.

世界站在乌克兰这一边，

The world is with the brave people of Ukraine.

站在勇敢的乌克兰人民这一边。

And in your final hour,

在你最后的时刻，

when you pray

当你祈祷，

to whoever you're going to be praying to,

无论是向谁祈祷，

know that she is on our side.

你要明白， 她站在我们这一边，

She's on the side of truth.

她站在真理这一边，

(Applause)

（掌声）

And she's not going to forgive your crimes against humanity.

她也不会原谅 你对人类犯下的罪行。

Yesterday, my friend,

昨天，我的朋友、

my colleague and comrade Vladimir Kara-Murza

同事与同志， 弗拉基米尔·卡拉·穆尔扎，

was sentenced to 25 years in jail

因公开反对乌克兰战争

for publicly condemning the war in Ukraine

与普京的政权，

and Vladimir Putin's regime.

被判处25年监禁

He said in his closing statement,

他在他的总结陈词里说道：

"I know that the day will come

“我知道那一天将到来，

when the darkness engulfing our country will dissipate.

笼罩我们国家的黑暗将褪去。

This day will come as inevitably

这一天不可避免地将到来，

as spring comes to replace even the frostiest winter."

春天将会取代最寒冷的冬天。”

And I'll finish my speech with words

我将用我22岁时所说的

of ... 22-year-old version of myself.

来总结我的演讲。

I said in my closing statement,

我当时在总结陈词里说道：

"Passion,

“热情、

openness and naivete are superior to hypocrisy,

开放与纯真远超于虚伪，

cunning and contrived decency that conceals crimes.

掩盖犯罪的， 精巧的与有欺骗性的正义。

(In Russian) Open all doors,

（俄语）开启所有的门，

take off the epaulettes,

取下肩章，

feel the smell of freedom with us.”

与我们一起， 感受自由的气息。”

Thank you.

谢谢。

(Applause and cheers)

（掌声与欢呼声）