Don't fear superintelligent AI | Grady Booch

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
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When I was a kid, I was the quintessential nerd.
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Kad sam bio dete, bio sam štreber do koske.
00:17
I think some of you were, too.
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Mislim da su i neki od vas to bili.
00:19
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:20
And you, sir, who laughed the loudest, you probably still are.
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A vi, gospodine, koji se najglasnije smejete, verovatno ste to i dalje.
00:23
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:26
I grew up in a small town in the dusty plains of north Texas,
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Odrastao sam u gradiću u prašnjavim ravnicama severnog Teksasa
00:29
the son of a sheriff who was the son of a pastor.
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kao sin šerifa koji je sin pastora.
00:32
Getting into trouble was not an option.
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Upadanje u nevolju nije dolazilo u obzir.
00:35
And so I started reading calculus books for fun.
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Te sam iz zabave počeo da čitam knjige o proračunu.
00:39
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:40
You did, too.
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I vi ste.
00:42
That led me to building a laser and a computer and model rockets,
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Zbog toga sam sagradio laser, kompjuter i modele raketa,
00:46
and that led me to making rocket fuel in my bedroom.
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a to me je navelo da napravim raketno gorivo u spavaćoj sobi.
00:49
Now, in scientific terms,
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Sad, u naučnom smislu,
00:53
we call this a very bad idea.
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ovo nazivamo veoma lošom idejom.
00:56
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:57
Around that same time,
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Otprilike u to vreme,
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Stanley Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" came to the theaters,
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u bioskope je stigla "Odiseja u svemiru: 2001" Stenlija Kjubrika,
01:03
and my life was forever changed.
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i moj život je izmenjen zauvek.
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I loved everything about that movie,
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Sve mi se sviđalo kod tog filma,
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especially the HAL 9000.
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naročito HAL 9000.
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Now, HAL was a sentient computer
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Sad, HAL je bio svesni kompjuter
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designed to guide the Discovery spacecraft
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osmišljen da vodi kosmički brod Diskaveri
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from the Earth to Jupiter.
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od Zemlje do Jupitera.
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HAL was also a flawed character,
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HAL je takođe bio faličan lik
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for in the end he chose to value the mission over human life.
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jer je na kraju odabrao vrednost misije umesto ljudskog života.
01:24
Now, HAL was a fictional character,
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Sad, HAL je bio fiktivan lik,
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but nonetheless he speaks to our fears,
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ali bez obzira na to, obraća se našim strahovima,
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our fears of being subjugated
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našim strahovima da ćemo pasti pod uticaj
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by some unfeeling, artificial intelligence
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nekakve bezosećajne, veštačke inteligencije
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who is indifferent to our humanity.
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koja je ravnodušna prema našoj ljudskosti.
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I believe that such fears are unfounded.
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Verujem da su takvi strahovi neosnovani.
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Indeed, we stand at a remarkable time
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Uistinu se nalazimo u izvanrednom vremenu
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in human history,
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u ljudskoj istoriji,
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where, driven by refusal to accept the limits of our bodies and our minds,
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u kom, pokrenuti odbijanjem da prihvatimo granice naših tela i naših umova,
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we are building machines
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gradimo mašine
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of exquisite, beautiful complexity and grace
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izuzetne, prelepe složenosti i stila
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that will extend the human experience
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koje će da prošire ljudsko iskustvo
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in ways beyond our imagining.
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na nezamislive načine.
01:59
After a career that led me from the Air Force Academy
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Nakon karijere koja seže od akademije ratnog vazduhoplovstva
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to Space Command to now,
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preko svemirskog zapovednika do sada,
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I became a systems engineer,
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postao sam inženjer za sisteme,
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and recently I was drawn into an engineering problem
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a nedavno me je privukao inženjerski problem
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associated with NASA's mission to Mars.
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u vezi sa NASA-inom misijom na Marsu.
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Now, in space flights to the Moon,
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Sad, tokom svemirskih letova na Mesec
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we can rely upon mission control in Houston
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možemo da se oslonimo na kontrolu misije u Hjustonu
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to watch over all aspects of a flight.
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da će da prati sve aspekte leta.
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However, Mars is 200 times further away,
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Međutim, Mars je 200 puta dalje,
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and as a result it takes on average 13 minutes
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i zbog toga je potrebno u proseku 13 minuta
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for a signal to travel from the Earth to Mars.
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za signal da putuje od Zemlje do Marsa.
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If there's trouble, there's not enough time.
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Ako imamo problem, nema dovoljno vremena.
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And so a reasonable engineering solution
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Pa razumno inženjeresko rešenje
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calls for us to put mission control
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iziskuje od nas da smestimo kontrolu misije
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inside the walls of the Orion spacecraft.
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unutar zidova kosmičkog broda Orion.
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Another fascinating idea in the mission profile
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Još jedna fantastična ideja u profilu misije
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places humanoid robots on the surface of Mars
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smešta humanoidne robote na površinu Marsa
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before the humans themselves arrive,
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pre nego što ljudi lično stignu,
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first to build facilities
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prvo da bi gradili objekte
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and later to serve as collaborative members of the science team.
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i kasnije da služe kao saradnici u naučnoj ekipi.
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Now, as I looked at this from an engineering perspective,
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Sad, dok sam ovo posmatrao sa inženjerske tačke gledišta,
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it became very clear to me that what I needed to architect
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bilo mi je veoma jasno da je potrebno da projektujem
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was a smart, collaborative,
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pametnu, sarađivačku,
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socially intelligent artificial intelligence.
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društveno inteligentnu veštačku inteligenciju.
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In other words, I needed to build something very much like a HAL
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Drugim rečima, trebalo je da sagradim nešto prilično slično HAL-u,
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but without the homicidal tendencies.
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ali bez ubilačkih tendencija.
03:12
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:14
Let's pause for a moment.
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Zastanimo na trenutak.
03:16
Is it really possible to build an artificial intelligence like that?
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Da li je zaista moguće sagraditi takvu veštačku inteligenciju?
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Actually, it is.
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Zapravo jeste.
03:21
In many ways,
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Na razne načine,
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this is a hard engineering problem
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ovo je težak inženjerski problem
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with elements of AI,
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sa elementima VI,
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not some wet hair ball of an AI problem that needs to be engineered.
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a ne nekakav neprijatan problem VI koji je potrebno projektovati.
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To paraphrase Alan Turing,
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Da parafraziram Alana Tjuringa:
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I'm not interested in building a sentient machine.
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ne zanima me izgradnja svesne mašine.
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I'm not building a HAL.
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Ne pravim HAL-a.
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All I'm after is a simple brain,
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Ja tragam za prostim mozgom,
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something that offers the illusion of intelligence.
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nečim što pruža iluziju inteligencije.
03:44
The art and the science of computing have come a long way
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Umetnost nauke i računarstva su prešle dug put
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since HAL was onscreen,
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od vremena prikazivanja HAL-a,
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and I'd imagine if his inventor Dr. Chandra were here today,
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i pretpostavljam da je njegov tvorac dr Čandra ovde danas,
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he'd have a whole lot of questions for us.
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imao bi gomilu pitanja za nas.
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Is it really possible for us
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Da li je zaista moguće da mi
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to take a system of millions upon millions of devices,
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uzmemo sistem od miliona i miliona uređaja,
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to read in their data streams,
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koji učitava dotok podataka,
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to predict their failures and act in advance?
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i da predvidimo njihove kvarove i delamo unapred?
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Yes.
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Da.
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Can we build systems that converse with humans in natural language?
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Možemo li sagraditi sisteme koji pričaju s ljudima na prirodnom jeziku?
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Yes.
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Da.
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Can we build systems that recognize objects, identify emotions,
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Možemo li sagraditi sisteme koji prepoznaju predmete, osećanja,
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emote themselves, play games and even read lips?
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ispoljavaju emocije, igraju igrice, čak i čitaju sa usana?
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Yes.
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Da.
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Can we build a system that sets goals,
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Možemo li sagraditi sistem koji postavlja ciljeve,
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that carries out plans against those goals and learns along the way?
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koji pravi planove za te ciljeve i usput uči?
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Yes.
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Da.
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Can we build systems that have a theory of mind?
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Možemo li sagraditi sisteme koji sadrže teoriju uma?
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This we are learning to do.
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Ovo učimo da radimo.
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Can we build systems that have an ethical and moral foundation?
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Možemo li sagraditi sisteme koji imaju etičke i moralne osnove?
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This we must learn how to do.
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Ovo moramo da naučimo da radimo.
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So let's accept for a moment
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Zato, prihvatimo za trenutak
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that it's possible to build such an artificial intelligence
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da je moguće sagraditi takvu veštačku inteligenciju
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for this kind of mission and others.
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za ovakvu i slične misije.
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The next question you must ask yourself is,
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Sledeće pitanje koje morate postaviti sebi je:
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should we fear it?
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da li treba da je se plašimo?
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Now, every new technology
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Sad, svaka nova tehnologija
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brings with it some measure of trepidation.
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sa sobom nosi izvesnu dozu strepnje.
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When we first saw cars,
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Kada smo prvi put videli automobile,
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people lamented that we would see the destruction of the family.
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ljudi su se žalili da ćemo biti svedoci uništenja porodice.
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When we first saw telephones come in,
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Kada smo prvi put videli telefon,
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people were worried it would destroy all civil conversation.
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ljudi su bili zabrinuti da će da uništi učtiv razgovor.
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At a point in time we saw the written word become pervasive,
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U jednom trenutku smo videli kako pisana reč počinje da preovlađuje,
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people thought we would lose our ability to memorize.
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ljudi su smatrali da ćemo izgubiti sposobnost pamćenja.
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These things are all true to a degree,
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Sve ovo je donekle tačno,
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but it's also the case that these technologies
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ali je takođe tačno da nam je ova tehnologija
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brought to us things that extended the human experience
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donela stvari koje su proširile ljudsko iskustvo
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in some profound ways.
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na izvesne suštinske načine.
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So let's take this a little further.
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Stoga, pođimo malo dalje s ovim.
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I do not fear the creation of an AI like this,
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Ne strahujem od stvaranja VI na ovaj način
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because it will eventually embody some of our values.
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jer će vremenom otelotvoriti neke od naših vrednosti.
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Consider this: building a cognitive system is fundamentally different
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Razmotrite sledeće: izgradnja kognitivnog sistema je temeljno različita
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than building a traditional software-intensive system of the past.
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od izgradnje tradicionalnog softverskog sistema iz prošlosti.
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We don't program them. We teach them.
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Ne programiramo ih. Podučavamo ih.
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In order to teach a system how to recognize flowers,
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Kako bih naučio sistem da raspoznaje cveće,
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I show it thousands of flowers of the kinds I like.
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pokazujem mu na hiljade cvetova koji se meni sviđaju.
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In order to teach a system how to play a game --
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Kako bih naučio sistem da igra igru -
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Well, I would. You would, too.
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Pa, bih. I vi biste.
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I like flowers. Come on.
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Volim cveće. Pa šta.
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To teach a system how to play a game like Go,
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Kako bih naučio sistem da igra igru poput goa,
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I'd have it play thousands of games of Go,
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morao bih da odigram na hiljade partija goa,
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but in the process I also teach it
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ali bih ga usput naučio
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how to discern a good game from a bad game.
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kako da razlikuje dobru od loše partije.
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If I want to create an artificially intelligent legal assistant,
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Ako bih želeo da stvorim pravnog asistenta sa veštačkom inteligencijom,
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I will teach it some corpus of law
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podučio bih ga zakonskim pravilncima,
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but at the same time I am fusing with it
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ali bih mu istovremeno s tim mešao
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the sense of mercy and justice that is part of that law.
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osećanja milosti i pravde koja su delovi tog zakona.
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In scientific terms, this is what we call ground truth,
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U naučnom smislu, ovo je nešto što nazivamo temeljnom istinom,
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and here's the important point:
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a ovo je važna tačka:
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in producing these machines,
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stvarajući ove mašine,
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we are therefore teaching them a sense of our values.
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sledi da ih učimo svesti o našim vrednostima.
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To that end, I trust an artificial intelligence
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U tom smislu, verujem veštačkoj inteligenciji
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the same, if not more, as a human who is well-trained.
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isto, ako ne i više, kao i dobro obučenim ljudima.
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But, you may ask,
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Međutim, možda se pitate,
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what about rogue agents,
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šta je sa odmetnicima,
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some well-funded nongovernment organization?
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nekim dobro finansiranim nevladinim organizacijama?
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I do not fear an artificial intelligence in the hand of a lone wolf.
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Ne plašim se veštačke inteligencije u rukama vukova samotnjaka.
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Clearly, we cannot protect ourselves against all random acts of violence,
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Očito se ne možemo zaštititi od svih nasumičnih činova nasilja,
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but the reality is such a system
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ali u stvarnosti sličan sistem
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requires substantial training and subtle training
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zahteva značajanu i prefinjenu obuku
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far beyond the resources of an individual.
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koja prevazilazi resurse pojedinaca.
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And furthermore,
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A zatim,
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it's far more than just injecting an internet virus to the world,
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to je daleko više od pukog ubrizgavanja internet virusa u svet,
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where you push a button, all of a sudden it's in a million places
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gde pritisnete dugme i iznenada se nalazi na milion mesta
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and laptops start blowing up all over the place.
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i laptopovi počinju svuda da eksplodiraju.
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Now, these kinds of substances are much larger,
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Sad, ovakve materije su daleko veće,
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and we'll certainly see them coming.
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i sigurno ćemo ih doživeti.
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Do I fear that such an artificial intelligence
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Da li me je strah da će takva veštačka inteligencija
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might threaten all of humanity?
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možda ugroziti čitavo čovečanstvo?
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If you look at movies such as "The Matrix," "Metropolis,"
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Ako pogledate filmove, poput "Matriksa", "Metropolisa",
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"The Terminator," shows such as "Westworld,"
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"Terminatora", serije poput "Zapadnog sveta",
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they all speak of this kind of fear.
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svi se oni bave tim strahom.
07:29
Indeed, in the book "Superintelligence" by the philosopher Nick Bostrom,
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Zaista, u knjizi "Superinteligencija" filozofa Nika Bostroma,
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he picks up on this theme
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on se bavi ovom tematikom
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and observes that a superintelligence might not only be dangerous,
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i razmatra da bi superinteligencija mogla ne samo da bude opasna,
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it could represent an existential threat to all of humanity.
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već bi mogla predstavljati egzistencijalnu pretnju čitavom čovečanstvu.
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Dr. Bostrom's basic argument
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Osnovni argument dr Bostroma
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is that such systems will eventually
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je da bi slični sistemi vremenom
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have such an insatiable thirst for information
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imali takavu nezasitu žudnju za informacijama
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that they will perhaps learn how to learn
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da bi možda naučili kako da uče
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and eventually discover that they may have goals
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i vremenom bi otkrili da možda imaju ciljeve
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that are contrary to human needs.
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koji su suprotni ljudskim potrebama.
07:59
Dr. Bostrom has a number of followers.
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Dr Bostrom ima brojne pratioce.
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He is supported by people such as Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking.
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Podržavaju ga ljudi poput Ilona Maska i Stivena Hokinga.
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With all due respect
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Uz dužno poštovanje
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to these brilliant minds,
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tim briljantnim umovima,
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I believe that they are fundamentally wrong.
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verujem da suštinski greše.
08:14
Now, there are a lot of pieces of Dr. Bostrom's argument to unpack,
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Sad, argument dr Bostroma je suviše složen za razlaganje,
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and I don't have time to unpack them all,
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i ja nemam vremena da ga u potpunosti razložim,
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but very briefly, consider this:
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ali veoma kratko, razmotrite sledeće:
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super knowing is very different than super doing.
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superznanje je veoma različito od superdelanja.
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HAL was a threat to the Discovery crew
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HAL je bio pretnja za posadu Diskaverija,
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only insofar as HAL commanded all aspects of the Discovery.
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samo zato što je HAL zapovedao svim aspektima Diskaverija.
08:32
So it would have to be with a superintelligence.
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Dakle, moralo bi da se radi o superinteligenciji.
08:35
It would have to have dominion over all of our world.
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Morala bi da ima vlast u čitavom našem svetu.
08:37
This is the stuff of Skynet from the movie "The Terminator"
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Tako je u slučaju Skajneta iz filma "Terminator"
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in which we had a superintelligence
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u kom smo imali superinteligenciju
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that commanded human will,
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koja je zapovedala ljudskom voljom,
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that directed every device that was in every corner of the world.
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koja je upravljala svakim uređajem u svakom kutku sveta.
08:47
Practically speaking,
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Prosto govoreći,
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it ain't gonna happen.
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to se neće desiti.
08:51
We are not building AIs that control the weather,
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Ne pravimo VI koja kontroliše vremenske prilike,
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that direct the tides,
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koja upravlja plimama,
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that command us capricious, chaotic humans.
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koja zapoveda nama, hirovitim, haotičnim ljudima.
08:58
And furthermore, if such an artificial intelligence existed,
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Potom, kad bi postojala slična veštačka inteligencija,
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it would have to compete with human economies,
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morala bi da se takmiči sa ljudskim ekonomijama,
09:05
and thereby compete for resources with us.
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a time i sa nama zbog resursa.
09:09
And in the end --
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I na kraju -
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don't tell Siri this --
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nemojte ovo reći Siri -
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we can always unplug them.
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možemo uvek da ih isključimo.
09:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:17
We are on an incredible journey
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Na neverovatnom smo putu
09:19
of coevolution with our machines.
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koevolucije sa našim mašinama.
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The humans we are today
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Ljudi kakvi smo danas,
09:24
are not the humans we will be then.
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nećemo biti ljudi sutrašnjice.
09:27
To worry now about the rise of a superintelligence
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Briga zbog uspona superinteligencije
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is in many ways a dangerous distraction
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je na razne načine opasno odvraćanje pažnje
09:33
because the rise of computing itself
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jer uspon samog računarstva
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brings to us a number of human and societal issues
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nam donosi brojna ljudska i društvena pitanja
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to which we must now attend.
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kojima se odmah moramo baviti.
09:41
How shall I best organize society
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Kako da organizujemo društvo na najbolji način
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when the need for human labor diminishes?
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kada se smanji potreba za ljudskom radnom snagom?
09:46
How can I bring understanding and education throughout the globe
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Kako da donesemo razumevanje i obrazovanje širom sveta,
09:50
and still respect our differences?
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a da i dalje poštujemo naše razlike?
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How might I extend and enhance human life through cognitive healthcare?
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Kako bismo mogli da proširimo i unapredimo ljudski život kroz kognitivno zdravstvo?
09:56
How might I use computing
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Kako da koristimo računare
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to help take us to the stars?
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da nas odvedu do zvezda?
10:01
And that's the exciting thing.
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A to je uzbudljivo.
10:04
The opportunities to use computing
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Šansa da se koriste računari
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to advance the human experience
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da bismo unapredili ljudsko iskustvo
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are within our reach,
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su nam na dohvat ruke,
10:09
here and now,
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ovde i sad,
10:11
and we are just beginning.
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a tek smo počeli.
10:14
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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