Lorrie Faith Cranor: What's wrong with your pa$$w0rd?

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Prevodilac: Jelena Relic Lektor: Ivana Korom
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I am a computer science and engineering professor here at Carnegie Mellon,
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Ja sam profesor računarskih nauka i inženjeringa na Univerzitetu Karnegi Melon
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and my research focuses on usable privacy and security,
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a fokus mog istraživanja je upotrebljivost sistema privatnosti i bezbednosti.
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and so my friends like to give me examples
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I tako moji prijatelji vole da mi daju primere
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of their frustrations with computing systems,
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svojih frustracija zbog računarskih sistema,
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especially frustrations related to
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naročito onih koji se odnose
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unusable privacy and security.
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na neupotrebljive sisteme privatnosti i bezbednosti.
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So passwords are something that I hear a lot about.
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Tako da su šifre nešto o čemu mnogo slušam.
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A lot of people are frustrated with passwords,
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Mnoge ljude frustriraju šifre,
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and it's bad enough
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i već je dovoljno teško
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when you have to have one really good password
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kada morate da imate jednu stvarno dobru šifru
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that you can remember
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koju možete zapamtiti
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but nobody else is going to be able to guess.
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ali koju niko drugi neće moći da pogodi.
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But what do you do when you have accounts
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Ali šta radite kada imate naloge
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on a hundred different systems
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na sto različitih sistema
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and you're supposed to have a unique password
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i trebalo bi da imate jedinstvenu šifru
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for each of these systems?
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za svaki od tih sistema?
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It's tough.
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To je teško.
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At Carnegie Mellon, they used to make it
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Na Karnegi Melonu su nam
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actually pretty easy for us
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zapravo prilično olakšali
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to remember our passwords.
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da upamtimo svoje šifre.
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The password requirement up through 2009
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Uslov za šifru je sve do 2009. godine
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was just that you had to have a password
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bio samo da morate da imate šifru
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with at least one character.
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koja sadrži bar jedan karakter.
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Pretty easy. But then they changed things,
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Prilično lako. Ali onda su promenili stvari
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and at the end of 2009, they announced
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i krajem 2009. godine su objavili
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that we were going to have a new policy,
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da ćemo imati novu politiku,
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and this new policy required
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a ta nova politika je zahtevala
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passwords that were at least eight characters long,
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šifre koje se sastoje od najmanje osam karaktera,
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with an uppercase letter, lowercase letter,
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uključujući veliko slovo, malo slovo,
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a digit, a symbol,
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cifru, simbol,
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you couldn't use the same character more than three times,
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niste mogli koristiti isti karakter više od tri puta,
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and it wasn't allowed to be in a dictionary.
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i nisu smele da se pojavljuju reči iz rečnika.
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Now, when they implemented this new policy,
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Kada su uveli ovu novu politiku,
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a lot of people, my colleagues and friends,
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mnogi ljudi, moje kolege i prijatelji,
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came up to me and they said, "Wow,
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prilazili su mi i govorili:
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now that's really unusable.
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"Hej, ovo je stvarno neupotrebljivo.
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Why are they doing this to us,
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Zašto nam ovo rade,
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and why didn't you stop them?"
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i zašto ih nisi sprečila?"
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And I said, "Well, you know what?
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A ja sam rekla: "Pa znate šta?
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They didn't ask me."
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Nisu me ni pitali."
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But I got curious, and I decided to go talk
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Ali bila sam radoznala i odlučila sam da razgovaram
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to the people in charge of our computer systems
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sa ljudima zaduženim za naše računarske sisteme
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and find out what led them to introduce
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i da saznam šta ih je navelo da uvedu
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this new policy,
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ovu novu politiku.
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and they said that the university
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A oni su rekli da se Univerzitet
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had joined a consortium of universities,
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priključio udruženju univerziteta,
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and one of the requirements of membership
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a jedan od zahteva za članstvo
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was that we had to have stronger passwords
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bio je da moramo imati jače šifre
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that complied with some new requirements,
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koje ispunjavaju neke nove uslove,
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and these requirements were that our passwords
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a ti uslovi su bili da naše šifre
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had to have a lot of entropy.
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moraju imati mnogo entropije.
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Now entropy is a complicated term,
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Entropija je složen pojam,
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but basically it measures the strength of passwords.
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ali u suštini ona meri jačinu šifre.
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But the thing is, there isn't actually
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Ali stvar je u tome da zapravo ne postoji
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a standard measure of entropy.
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standardna mera entropije.
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Now, the National Institute of Standards and Technology
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Nacionalni institut za standarde i tehnologiju
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has a set of guidelines
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ima niz smernica
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which have some rules of thumb
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koje daju neka opšta načela
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for measuring entropy,
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za merenje entropije,
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but they don't have anything too specific,
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ali nemaju ništa previše određeno,
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and the reason they only have rules of thumb
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a razlog zašto imaju samo opšta načela
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is it turns out they don't actually have any good data
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je to što oni zapravo nemaju neke kvalitetne podatke
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on passwords.
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o šiframa.
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In fact, their report states,
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Zapravo, u njihovom izveštaju stoji:
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"Unfortunately, we do not have much data
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"Nažalost, nemamo mnogo podataka
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on the passwords users choose under particular rules.
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o šiframa koje korisnici biraju pod određenim pravilima.
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NIST would like to obtain more data
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NIST bi želeo da sakupi više podataka
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on the passwords users actually choose,
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o šiframa koje korisnici zapravo koriste,
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but system administrators are understandably reluctant
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ali, razume se, administratori sistema
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to reveal password data to others."
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nerado otkrivaju podatke o šiframa."
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So this is a problem, but our research group
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Dakle, ovo je problem, ali naša istraživačka grupa
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looked at it as an opportunity.
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je videla to kao priliku.
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We said, "Well, there's a need for good password data.
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Rekli smo: "Pa, postoji potreba za kvalitetnim podacima o šiframa.
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Maybe we can collect some good password data
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Možda možemo da sakupimo neke dobre podatke
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and actually advance the state of the art here.
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i zapravo poboljšamo trenutno stanje."
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So the first thing we did is,
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Prva stvar koju smo uradili bila je
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we got a bag of candy bars
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da smo uzeli kesu bombona
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and we walked around campus
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i šetali po kampusu,
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and talked to students, faculty and staff,
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pričali sa studentima, profesorima i zaposlenima,
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and asked them for information
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i ispitivali ih
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about their passwords.
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o njihovim šiframa.
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Now we didn't say, "Give us your password."
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Nismo govorili: "Daj nam svoju šifru."
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No, we just asked them about their password.
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Ne, mi smo ih samo pitali o njihovim šiframa.
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How long is it? Does it have a digit?
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Koliko je duga? Da li sadrži cifre? Da li ima simbola?
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Does it have a symbol?
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And were you annoyed at having to create
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I da li vas je iznerviralo to što ste morali
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a new one last week?
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da napravite novu prošle nedelje?
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So we got results from 470 students,
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Dobili smo rezultate od 470 studenata,
profesora i zaposlenih,
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faculty and staff,
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and indeed we confirmed that the new policy
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i zaista smo potvrdili da je nova politika
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was very annoying,
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prilično nervirala,
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but we also found that people said
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ali smo takođe saznali da se ljudi
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they felt more secure with these new passwords.
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osećaju sigurnije sa ovim novim šiframa.
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We found that most people knew
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Saznali smo da većina ljudi zna
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they were not supposed to write their password down,
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da ne treba da zapisuju svoje šifre,
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and only 13 percent of them did,
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i samo 13% njih jeste zapisalo,
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but disturbingly, 80 percent of people
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ali uznemiravajuće je to da je 80%
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said they were reusing their password.
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reklo da ponovo koristi svoju staru šifru.
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Now, this is actually more dangerous
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To je zapravo opasnije
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than writing your password down,
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od zapisivanja šifre,
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because it makes you much more susceptible to attackers.
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jer vas čini mnogo ranjivijim za napade.
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So if you have to, write your passwords down,
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Tako da ako morate, zapišite šifru,
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but don't reuse them.
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ali nemojte ponovo koristiti istu.
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We also found some interesting things
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Takođe smo saznali neke zanimljive stvari
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about the symbols people use in passwords.
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o simbolima koje ljudi koriste u šiframa.
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So CMU allows 32 possible symbols,
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Dakle, KMU dozvoljava 32 različita simbola,
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but as you can see, there's only a small number
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ali kao što vidite, mali je broj
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that most people are using,
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onih koje većina ljudi koristi
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so we're not actually getting very much strength
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tako da ne dobijamo mnogo na jačini
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from the symbols in our passwords.
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od simbola u našim šiframa.
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So this was a really interesting study,
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Ovo je stvarno bilo interesantno ispitivanje,
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and now we had data from 470 people,
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i sada smo imali podatke 470 osoba,
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but in the scheme of things,
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ali u suštini,
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that's really not very much password data,
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to i nije mnogo podataka o šiframa,
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and so we looked around to see
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pa smo se osvrnuli unaokolo
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where could we find additional password data?
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da vidimo gde možemo naći još podataka.
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So it turns out there are a lot of people
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Ispostavilo se da ima mnogo ljudi
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going around stealing passwords,
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koji idu unaokolo i kradu šifre,
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and they often go and post these passwords
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i često objavljuju te šifre
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on the Internet.
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na internetu.
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So we were able to get access
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Tako da smo mogli da pristupimo
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to some of these stolen password sets.
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nekim od ovih nizova ukradenih šifri.
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This is still not really ideal for research, though,
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Ipak, to baš i nije idealno za istraživanje
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because it's not entirely clear
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zato što nije potpuno jasno
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where all of these passwords came from,
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odakle te šifre dolaze
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or exactly what policies were in effect
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niti kakva su tačno pravila važila
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when people created these passwords.
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kada su ljudi pravili te šifre.
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So we wanted to find some better source of data.
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Želeli smo da nađemo bolji izvor podataka.
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So we decided that one thing we could do
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Odlučili smo da bismo mogli
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is we could do a study and have people
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da sprovedemo istraživanje za koje će ljudi
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actually create passwords for our study.
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zapravo specijalno praviti svoje šifre.
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So we used a service called Amazon Mechanical Turk,
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Koristili smo servis pod imenom Amazon Mechanical Turk,
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and this is a service where you can post
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a to je servis gde možete objaviti
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a small job online that takes a minute,
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mali posao za koji treba minut,
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a few minutes, an hour,
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nekoliko minuta, sat,
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and pay people, a penny, ten cents, a few dollars,
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i platiti ljudima peni, deset centi, nekoliko dolara
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to do a task for you,
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da urade zadatak za vas,
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and then you pay them through Amazon.com.
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a onda im platite preko Amazon.com.
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So we paid people about 50 cents
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Plaćali smo ljudima oko 50 centi
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to create a password following our rules
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da naprave šifru poštujući naša pravila
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and answering a survey,
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i odgovarajući na anketu,
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and then we paid them again to come back
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a onda im ponovo plaćali da se vrate
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two days later and log in
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dva dana kasnije i uloguju se
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using their password and answering another survey.
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koristeći svoju šifru i odgovarajući na još jednu anketu.
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So we did this, and we collected 5,000 passwords,
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To smo uradili i sakupili 5000 šifri,
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and we gave people a bunch of different policies
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i davali smo ljudima brdo različitih smernica
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to create passwords with.
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po kojima da naprave šifru.
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So some people had a pretty easy policy,
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Neki ljudi su imali jednostavne smernice,
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we call it Basic8,
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mi to zovemo Basic8,
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and here the only rule was that your password
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a tu je jedino pravilo bilo da šifra
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had to have at least eight characters.
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mora da sadrži najmanje osam karaktera.
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Then some people had a much harder policy,
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Od nekih ljudi se tražilo mnogo više,
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and this was very similar to the CMU policy,
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veoma slično politici KMU-a,
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that it had to have eight characters
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da šifra mora imati osam karaktera
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including uppercase, lowercase, digit, symbol,
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uključujući veliko slovo, malo slovo, cifru, simbol
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and pass a dictionary check.
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i da prolazi rečničku proveru.
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And one of the other policies we tried,
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Jedna od politika koju smo probali,
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and there were a whole bunch more,
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a bilo ih je stvarno mnogo,
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but one of the ones we tried was called Basic16,
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ali jedna od onih koje smo probali se zove Basic16,
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and the only requirement here
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a ovde je jedini zahtev bio
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was that your password had to have at least 16 characters.
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da šifra mora imati najmanje 16 karaktera.
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All right, so now we had 5,000 passwords,
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Dobro, sada smo imali 5000 šifri
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and so we had much more detailed information.
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i mnogo detaljnije informacije.
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Again we see that there's only a small number
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Ponovo vidimo da je samo mali broj
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of symbols that people are actually using
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simbola koje ljudi zapravo koriste
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in their passwords.
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u svojim šiframa.
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We also wanted to get an idea of how strong
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Takođe smo želeli da steknemo uvid
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the passwords were that people were creating,
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u to koliko su jake šifre koje ljudi prave
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but as you may recall, there isn't a good measure
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ali, ako se sećate, ne postoji prava mera
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of password strength.
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za jačinu šifre.
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So what we decided to do was to see
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Odlučili smo da vidimo
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how long it would take to crack these passwords
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koliko vremena je potrebno da se provale ove šifre
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using the best cracking tools
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koristeći najbolje alatke
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that the bad guys are using,
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koje koriste loši momci
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or that we could find information about
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ili one o kojima se mogu pronaći neki podaci
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in the research literature.
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u literaturi.
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So to give you an idea of how bad guys
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A sada da vam dam uvid u to kako loši momci
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go about cracking passwords,
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otkrivaju šifre.
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they will steal a password file
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Oni ukradu datoteku
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that will have all of the passwords
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koja sadrži sve šifre
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in kind of a scrambled form, called a hash,
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u nekakvom zbrkanom obliku, zvanom heš,
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and so what they'll do is they'll make a guess
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a onda zapravo nagađaju
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as to what a password is,
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šta je od toga šifra,
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run it through a hashing function,
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provuku je kroz heš funkciju
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and see whether it matches
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i vide da li odgovara
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the passwords they have on their stolen password list.
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šiframa koje imaju na svom spisku ukradenih šifri.
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So a dumb attacker will try every password in order.
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Glup napadač će probati svaku šifru po redu.
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They'll start with AAAAA and move on to AAAAB,
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Počeće sa AAAAA i preći na AAAAB,
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and this is going to take a really long time
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i to će trajati veoma dugo
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before they get any passwords
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pre nego što dobije neku šifru
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that people are really likely to actually have.
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koju je vrlo verovatno da neko zapravo ima.
07:31
A smart attacker, on the other hand,
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Pametan napadač, sa druge strane,
07:33
does something much more clever.
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radi nešto mnogo mudrije.
07:34
They look at the passwords
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On posmatra šifre
07:36
that are known to be popular
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za koje se zna da su popularne
07:38
from these stolen password sets,
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i iz ovih nizova ukradenih
07:40
and they guess those first.
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prvo nagađa te šifre.
07:41
So they're going to start by guessing "password,"
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Počeće sa nagađanjem reči "šifra"
07:43
and then they'll guess "I love you," and "monkey,"
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a onda "volimte" i "majmun"
07:46
and "12345678,"
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i "12345678"
07:48
because these are the passwords
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zato što su to šifre
07:50
that are most likely for people to have.
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koje ljudi najverovatnije imaju.
07:52
In fact, some of you probably have these passwords.
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Zapravo, neki od vas verovatno imaju ove šifre.
07:57
So what we found
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Ono što smo otkrili
07:58
by running all of these 5,000 passwords we collected
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stavljajući svih ovih 5000 šifri koje smo sakupili
08:01
through these tests to see how strong they were,
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na testove da vidimo koliko su jake
08:06
we found that the long passwords
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bilo je da su duge šifre
08:08
were actually pretty strong,
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zapravo prilično jake
08:10
and the complex passwords were pretty strong too.
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kao i da su složene šifre takođe prilično jake.
08:13
However, when we looked at the survey data,
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Međutim, kada smo pregledali odgovore u anketama
08:15
we saw that people were really frustrated
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videli smo da ljude zaista frustriraju
08:18
by the very complex passwords,
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veoma složene šifre
08:21
and the long passwords were a lot more usable,
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i da su duge šifre mnogo upotrebljivije,
08:23
and in some cases, they were actually
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a u nekim slučajevima su zapravo
08:25
even stronger than the complex passwords.
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čak i snažnije nego složene šifre.
08:27
So this suggests that,
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Dakle, ovo nam pokazuje
08:29
instead of telling people that they need
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da umesto da govorimo ljudima da treba
08:30
to put all these symbols and numbers
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da ubace sve ove simbole i brojeve
08:32
and crazy things into their passwords,
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i svakakve druge stvari u svoje šifre,
08:35
we might be better off just telling people
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možda bi bilo bolje samo da im kažemo
08:37
to have long passwords.
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da imaju duge šifre.
08:39
Now here's the problem, though:
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Ipak, ovde imamo problem:
08:41
Some people had long passwords
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neki ljudi su imali duge šifre
08:43
that actually weren't very strong.
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koje zapravo nisu toliko jake.
08:45
You can make long passwords
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Možete napraviti duge šifre
08:47
that are still the sort of thing
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koje su i dalje prilično
08:49
that an attacker could easily guess.
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laka meta za napadače.
08:50
So we need to do more than just say long passwords.
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Zato moramo uraditi nešto više nego prosto reći "duge šifre".
08:54
There has to be some additional requirements,
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Moraju postojati neki dodatni zahtevi,
08:56
and some of our ongoing research is looking at
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a neka od naših istraživanja koja su u toku
08:59
what additional requirements we should add
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ispituju koje to zahteve treba da uključimo
09:01
to make for stronger passwords
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da bismo stvorili snažnije šifre
09:03
that also are going to be easy for people
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koje će ujedno biti jednostavne
09:05
to remember and type.
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za pamćenje i kucanje.
09:08
Another approach to getting people to have
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Još jedan način da navedemo ljude da imaju jače šifre
09:10
stronger passwords is to use a password meter.
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jeste da koristimo merač jačine.
09:12
Here are some examples.
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Evo nekih primera.
09:14
You may have seen these on the Internet
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Možda ste videli ove na internetu
09:15
when you were creating passwords.
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kada ste pravili svoje šifre.
09:18
We decided to do a study to find out
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Odlučili smo da sprovedemo istraživanje i saznamo
09:21
whether these password meters actually work.
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da li ovi merači zapravo rade.
09:23
Do they actually help people
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Da li zaista pomažu ljudima
09:25
have stronger passwords,
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da imaju jače šifre
09:26
and if so, which ones are better?
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i ako je tako, koji od njih su bolji?
09:28
So we tested password meters that were
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Ispitali smo merače jačine koji su
09:31
different sizes, shapes, colors,
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različitih dimenzija, oblika, boja,
09:33
different words next to them,
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koji koriste različite reči,
09:34
and we even tested one that was a dancing bunny.
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čak i jedan koji je u obliku zeca koji pleše.
09:38
As you type a better password,
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Što je bolja šifra koju ukucate,
09:39
the bunny dances faster and faster.
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to zec igra brže.
09:42
So this was pretty fun.
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Ovo je bilo prilično zabavno.
09:44
What we found
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Ono što smo otkrili je
09:46
was that password meters do work.
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da merači jačine šifre funkcionišu.
09:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:51
Most of the password meters were actually effective,
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Većina merača je zapravo korisna
09:55
and the dancing bunny was very effective too,
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uključujući i zeca koji igra,
09:57
but the password meters that were the most effective
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ali merači koji su bili najefikasniji
10:00
were the ones that made you work harder
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su oni koji vas navode da se pomučite
10:02
before they gave you that thumbs up and said
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pre nego što vam daju zeleno svetlo
10:04
you were doing a good job,
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i kažu da ste na dobrom putu.
10:06
and in fact we found that most
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Zapravo, otkrili smo da je većina
10:07
of the password meters on the Internet today
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merača jačine na internetu
trenutno previše blaga.
10:10
are too soft.
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10:10
They tell you you're doing a good job too early,
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Prerano vam kažu da ste dobro obavili posao,
10:13
and if they would just wait a little bit
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a kada bi samo malo pričekali
10:15
before giving you that positive feedback,
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pre nego što vam daju taj pozitivan komentar,
10:17
you probably would have better passwords.
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verovatno biste imali bolje šifre.
10:20
Now another approach to better passwords, perhaps,
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Drugi pristup pravljenju boljih šifri je možda
10:24
is to use pass phrases instead of passwords.
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upotreba šifri u obliku fraze umesto reči.
10:27
So this was an xkcd cartoon from a couple of years ago,
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Ovo je xkcd internet-strip od pre par godina
10:30
and the cartoonist suggests
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i autor predlaže
10:32
that we should all use pass phrases,
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da svi koristimo šifre u obliku fraze
10:34
and if you look at the second row of this cartoon,
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i ako pogledate drugi red ovog stripa,
10:37
you can see the cartoonist is suggesting
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možete videti da autor predstavlja
10:39
that the pass phrase "correct horse battery staple"
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frazu "tačno konj baterijska spajalica"
10:42
would be a very strong pass phrase
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kao frazu koja bi bila veoma jaka šifra.
10:45
and something really easy to remember.
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i nešto što je jednostavno zapamtiti.
10:47
He says, in fact, you've already remembered it.
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On kaže da ste je zapravo već zapamtili.
10:50
And so we decided to do a research study
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Tako smo odlučili da sprovedemo istraživanje
10:52
to find out whether this was true or not.
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da bismo otkrili da li je ovo tačno.
10:54
In fact, everybody who I talk to,
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Zapravo, svako sa kim sam razgovarala,
10:56
who I mention I'm doing password research,
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i kome sam pomenula da radim istraživanje o šiframa
10:58
they point out this cartoon.
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mi je ukazao na taj strip.
10:59
"Oh, have you seen it? That xkcd.
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"O, jesi li videla taj strip?
11:01
Correct horse battery staple."
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Tačno konj baterijska spajalica".
11:03
So we did the research study to see
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Sproveli smo istraživanje da vidimo
11:04
what would actually happen.
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šta bi se zaista dogodilo.
11:07
So in our study, we used Mechanical Turk again,
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Za naše istraživanje smo opet koristili Mechanical Turk,
11:10
and we had the computer pick the random words
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a računar je nasumično birao reči
za šifru-frazu.
11:14
in the pass phrase.
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11:15
Now the reason we did this
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Razlog zašto smo tako uradili
11:16
is that humans are not very good
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je taj što ljudi nisu baš dobri
11:18
at picking random words.
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u nasumičnom biranju reči.
11:19
If we asked a human to do it,
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Kada bi to radio čovek
11:21
they would pick things that were not very random.
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izabrao bi stvari koje nisu baš nasumične.
11:24
So we tried a few different conditions.
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Isprobali smo par različitih situacija.
11:26
In one condition, the computer picked
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U jednoj od njih, računar je birao
11:28
from a dictionary of the very common words
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iz rečnika veoma čestih reči
11:30
in the English language,
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u engleskom jeziku,
11:31
and so you'd get pass phrases like
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pa smo dobijali fraze tipa
11:33
"try there three come."
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"probati tamo tri doći".
11:35
And we looked at that, and we said,
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Posmatrali smo to i rekli:
11:37
"Well, that doesn't really seem very memorable."
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"Pa, to i ne deluje baš tako lako za pamćenje."
11:40
So then we tried picking words
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Pa smo onda probali da biramo reči
11:42
that came from specific parts of speech,
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na osnovu vrste reči
11:44
so how about noun-verb-adjective-noun.
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kao recimo, imenica-glagol-pridev-imenica.
11:47
That comes up with something that's sort of sentence-like.
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To se čini kao nešto slično rečenici.
11:49
So you can get a pass phrase like
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Tako da možete dobiti frazu kao na primer,
11:51
"plan builds sure power"
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"plan gradi sigurnu moć"
11:53
or "end determines red drug."
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ili "kraj određuje crvenu drogu".
11:55
And these seemed a little bit more memorable,
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Ove su se činile malo lakše za pamćenje
11:58
and maybe people would like those a little bit better.
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i možda bi se ljudima malo više svidele.
12:01
We wanted to compare them with passwords,
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Hteli smo da ih uporedimo sa običnim šiframa,
12:03
and so we had the computer pick random passwords,
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pa smo pomoću računara nasumično birali reči
koje su bile fine i kratke, ali kao što možete videti,
12:07
and these were nice and short, but as you can see,
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12:09
they don't really look very memorable.
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ne deluju baš lake za pamćenje.
12:11
And then we decided to try something called
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Onda smo odlučili da probamo
12:13
a pronounceable password.
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šifre koje se mogu izgovoriti.
12:14
So here the computer picks random syllables
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Ovde računar bira nasumične slogove
12:17
and puts them together
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i spaja ih tako
12:18
so you have something sort of pronounceable,
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da se dobije nešto što je moguće izgovoriti
12:20
like "tufritvi" and "vadasabi."
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kao na primer "tuftitvi" i "vadasabi".
12:23
That one kind of rolls off your tongue.
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Ovu je prilično lako izgovoriti.
12:25
So these were random passwords that were
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To su bile nasumične reči
12:27
generated by our computer.
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koje je sastavio naš računar.
12:30
So what we found in this study was that, surprisingly,
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Iznenađujuće, ono što smo otkrili u ovom istraživanju bilo je
12:33
pass phrases were not actually all that good.
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da fraze i nisu toliko dobre kao šifre.
12:37
People were not really better at remembering
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Ljudi zapravo nisu bolje pamtili
12:40
the pass phrases than these random passwords,
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fraze od ovih nasumičnih reči,
12:43
and because the pass phrases are longer,
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a pošto su fraze duže,
12:45
they took longer to type
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treba više vremena da se ukucaju
12:47
and people made more errors while typing them in.
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i ljudi su pravili više grešaka dok su ih kucali.
12:50
So it's not really a clear win for pass phrases.
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Dakle, fraze i nisu baš najbolje kao šifre.
12:53
Sorry, all of you xkcd fans.
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Žao mi je, svi vi fanovi onog xkcd stripa.
12:56
On the other hand, we did find
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Sa druge strane, otkrili smo
12:58
that pronounceable passwords
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da su šifre koje je moguće izgovoriti
13:00
worked surprisingly well,
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iznenađujuće dobro funkcionisale,
13:01
and so we actually are doing some more research
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pa zapravo radimo još neka istraživanja
13:04
to see if we can make that approach work even better.
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da vidimo da li možemo da učinimo taj pristup još efikasnijim.
13:07
So one of the problems
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Jedan od problema
u nekim od istraživanja koja smo sproveli
13:09
with some of the studies that we've done
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13:10
is that because they're all done
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je da zato što su sva sprovedena
13:12
using Mechanical Turk,
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koristeći Mechanical Turk,
13:14
these are not people's real passwords.
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ovo nisu prave šifre ljudi.
13:15
They're the passwords that they created
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To su šifre koje su ljudi napravili
ili ih je umesto njih napravio računar za naše istraživanje.
13:18
or the computer created for them for our study.
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13:20
And we wanted to know whether people
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A nas je zanimalo da li bi se ljudi
13:22
would actually behave the same way
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zaista ponašali na isti način
13:24
with their real passwords.
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i kada se radi o njihovim pravim šiframa.
13:26
So we talked to the information security office at Carnegie Mellon
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Razgovarali smo sa službom za bezbednost podataka na Karnegi Melonu
13:30
and asked them if we could have everybody's real passwords.
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i pitali ih da li bismo mogli da dobijemo svačiju pravu šifru.
13:34
Not surprisingly, they were a little bit reluctant
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Očekivano, nisu baš bili voljni
13:35
to share them with us,
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da ih podele sa nama,
13:37
but we were actually able to work out
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ali smo uspeli da smislimo
sistem da sarađujemo sa njima
13:39
a system with them
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13:40
where they put all of the real passwords
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po kom su oni stavili sve prave šifre
13:42
for 25,000 CMU students, faculty and staff,
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25000 studenata, profesora i zaposlenih
13:45
into a locked computer in a locked room,
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u zaključan računar u zaključanoj prostoriji
13:47
not connected to the Internet,
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bez pristupa internetu
13:49
and they ran code on it that we wrote
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i pokrenuli su kod koji smo mi napisali
13:51
to analyze these passwords.
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kako bismo analizirali te šifre.
13:53
They audited our code.
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Oni su kontrolisali naš kod.
13:54
They ran the code.
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Oni su pokretali kod.
13:55
And so we never actually saw
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Tako da mi zapravo
13:57
anybody's password.
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nismo videli ničiju šifru.
14:00
We got some interesting results,
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Dobili smo zanimljive rezultate,
14:02
and those of you Tepper students in the back
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a vas studente poslovnih studija tamo pozadi
14:03
will be very interested in this.
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će ovo posebno zanimati.
14:06
So we found that the passwords created
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Otkrili smo da su šifre koje su napravili ljudi
14:10
by people affiliated with the school of computer science
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povezani sa studijama računarstva
14:12
were actually 1.8 times stronger
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bile zapravo 1,8 puta snažnije
14:14
than those affiliated with the business school.
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nego one koje su pravili ljudi sa poslovnih studija.
14:18
We have lots of other really interesting
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Imamo i mnogo drugih zaista interesantnih
14:20
demographic information as well.
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demografskih podataka.
14:22
The other interesting thing that we found
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Druga zanimljiva stvar koju smo otkrili
14:24
is that when we compared the Carnegie Mellon passwords
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je da kada uporedimo šifre sa Karnegi Melona
14:27
to the Mechanical Turk-generated passwords,
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sa šiframa koje smo sakupili na Mechanical Turku
14:29
there was actually a lot of similarities,
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zapravo primetimo dosta sličnosti,
14:31
and so this helped validate our research method
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što nam je pomoglo da utvrdimo valjanost naše metode
14:33
and show that actually, collecting passwords
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i pokazalo da je sakupljanje šifri
14:36
using these Mechanical Turk studies
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pomoću Mechanical Turk-a
14:38
is actually a valid way to study passwords.
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zapravo valjan način proučavanja šifri.
14:41
So that was good news.
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To su dobre vesti.
14:43
Okay, I want to close by talking about
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U redu, želim da završim pričajući
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some insights I gained while on sabbatical
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o nekim uvidima koje sam stekla prošle godine
14:47
last year in the Carnegie Mellon art school.
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dok sam bila na odsustvu u Karnegi Melon umetničkoj akademiji.
14:51
One of the things that I did
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Između ostalog,
14:52
is I made a number of quilts,
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napravila sam brojne "tapiserije"
14:53
and I made this quilt here.
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i napravila sam ovu ovde.
14:55
It's called "Security Blanket."
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Zove se "Ćilim sigurnosti".
14:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:59
And this quilt has the 1,000
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A u sebi sadrži 1000
15:02
most frequent passwords stolen
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najčešće ukradenih šifri
15:05
from the RockYou website.
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sa internet sajta RockYou.
15:07
And the size of the passwords is proportional
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Veličina šifre je proporcionalna
15:09
to how frequently they appeared
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tome koliko su se često pojavljivale
15:11
in the stolen dataset.
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među ukradenim podacima.
15:13
And what I did is I created this word cloud,
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A ja sam napravila ovaj "oblak reči"
15:16
and I went through all 1,000 words,
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i pregledala svih 1000 reči
15:18
and I categorized them into
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pa ih svrstala
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loose thematic categories.
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u opštije tematske celine.
15:22
And it was, in some cases,
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U nekim slučajevima je bilo
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it was kind of difficult to figure out
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prilično teško odlučiti
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what category they should be in,
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kojoj kategoriji treba da pripadaju
15:28
and then I color-coded them.
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pa sam ih onda obeležila po bojama.
15:30
So here are some examples of the difficulty.
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Evo nekih takvih primera.
15:33
So "justin."
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Recimo, "džastin".
15:34
Is that the name of the user,
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Da li je to ime korisnika,
15:36
their boyfriend, their son?
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njihovog dečka, sina?
15:37
Maybe they're a Justin Bieber fan.
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Možda su samo fanovi Džastina Bibera.
15:40
Or "princess."
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Ili "princeza".
15:42
Is that a nickname?
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Da li je to nadimak?
15:44
Are they Disney princess fans?
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Da li vole Dizni princeze?
15:45
Or maybe that's the name of their cat.
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Ili je to možda ime njihove mačke.
15:49
"Iloveyou" appears many times
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"Volimte" se pojavljuje mnogo puta
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in many different languages.
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na mnogo različitih jezika.
15:52
There's a lot of love in these passwords.
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Ima mnogo ljubavi u ovim šiframa.
Ako pogledate pažljivo, videćete da ima takođe
15:56
If you look carefully, you'll see there's also
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15:58
some profanity,
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i nekih vulgarnosti
16:00
but it was really interesting to me to see
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ali mi je bilo stvarno zanimljivo to
16:02
that there's a lot more love than hate
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što ima mnogo više ljubavi nego mržnje
16:04
in these passwords.
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u ovim šiframa.
16:06
And there are animals,
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I ima životinja,
16:08
a lot of animals,
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mnogo životinja,
16:09
and "monkey" is the most common animal
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a majmun je najčešća životinja
16:12
and the 14th most popular password overall.
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i uopšteno 14. šifra po popularnosti.
16:15
And this was really curious to me,
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Ovo mi je bilo veoma neobično
16:17
and I wondered, "Why are monkeys so popular?"
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i upitala sam se: "Zašto su majmuni toliko popularni?"
16:20
And so in our last password study,
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U našem poslednjem istraživanju o šiframa,
16:23
any time we detected somebody
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kad god bismo naišli na nekog
16:25
creating a password with the word "monkey" in it,
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ko pravi šifru koja sadrži reč "majmun",
16:28
we asked them why they had a monkey in their password.
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pitali smo ga zašto ubacuje reč "majmun" u svoju šifru.
16:31
And what we found out --
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Ono što smo saznali,
16:33
we found 17 people so far, I think,
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a našli smo, ja mislim, 17 ljudi do sada
16:35
who have the word "monkey" --
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koji imaju reč "majmun",
16:36
We found out about a third of them said
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bilo je da je oko trećina njih rekla
16:38
they have a pet named "monkey"
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da imaju ljubimca koji se zove "majmun"
16:39
or a friend whose nickname is "monkey,"
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ili prijatelja čiji je nadimak "majmun",
16:42
and about a third of them said
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a otprilike trećina ljudi je rekla
16:43
that they just like monkeys
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da jednostavno vole majmune
16:45
and monkeys are really cute.
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i da su majmuni jako slatki.
16:47
And that guy is really cute.
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I ovaj mališa je stvarno sladak.
16:50
So it seems that at the end of the day,
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Na kraju krajeva, čini se
16:54
when we make passwords,
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da kada pravimo šifre,
16:55
we either make something that's really easy
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napravimo ili nešto što je
16:57
to type, a common pattern,
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veoma lako za iskucati, nešto uobičajeno,
17:00
or things that remind us of the word password
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ili stvari koje nas podsećaju na reč "šifra"
17:03
or the account that we've created the password for,
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ili na nalog za koji smo napravili šifru
17:06
or whatever.
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ili šta god.
17:09
Or we think about things that make us happy,
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Ili možda pomislimo na stvari koje nas čine srećnim
17:11
and we create our password
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i pravimo svoju šifru
17:13
based on things that make us happy.
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na osnovu stvari koje nas čine srećnim.
17:15
And while this makes typing
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I dok ovo čini kucanje
17:18
and remembering your password more fun,
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i pamćenje vaše šifre zabavnijim,
17:21
it also makes it a lot easier
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ujedno čini šifru i mnogo lakšom
17:23
to guess your password.
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za pogađanje.
17:24
So I know a lot of these TED Talks
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Znam da su mnogi od ovih TED govora
17:26
are inspirational
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nadahnjujući
17:27
and they make you think about nice, happy things,
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i čine da mislite o lepim stvarima,
17:30
but when you're creating your password,
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ali kada pravite svoju šifru
17:32
try to think about something else.
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probajte da razmišljate o nečemu drugom.
17:34
Thank you.
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Hvala. (Aplauz)
17:35
(Applause)
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