Lorrie Faith Cranor: What's wrong with your pa$$w0rd?

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Prevoditelj: Izidora Zganjer Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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I am a computer science and engineering professor here at Carnegie Mellon,
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Ja sam profesorica računalne znanosti i inženjerstva, ovdje, na Carnegie Mellonu.
00:15
and my research focuses on usable privacy and security,
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Moje istraživanje se bavi primjenjivim pravilima privatnosti i sigurnosti.
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and so my friends like to give me examples
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Prijatelji mi vole davati primjere
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of their frustrations with computing systems,
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njihove frustriranosti računalnim sustavima,
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especially frustrations related to
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posebno kada frustriranost ima veze
00:28
unusable privacy and security.
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s neprimjenjivim pravilima privatnosti i sigurnosti.
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So passwords are something that I hear a lot about.
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Tako su lozinke česta tema.
00:35
A lot of people are frustrated with passwords,
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Puno ljudi je frustrirano s lozinkama,
00:38
and it's bad enough
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i dovoljno je zlo
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when you have to have one really good password
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imati jednu zbilja dobru lozinku
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that you can remember
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koju možeš zapamtiti,
00:44
but nobody else is going to be able to guess.
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a da je nitko neće pogoditi.
00:47
But what do you do when you have accounts
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Ali što napraviti kada imaš nekoliko korisničkih računa,
00:48
on a hundred different systems
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na stotinu različitih sustava
00:50
and you're supposed to have a unique password
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i trebao bi imati unikatnu lozinku
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for each of these systems?
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za svaki od tih sustava?
00:56
It's tough.
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To je teško.
00:58
At Carnegie Mellon, they used to make it
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Na Carnegie Mellonu,
01:00
actually pretty easy for us
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su nam olakšavali, zapravo
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to remember our passwords.
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pamćenje naših lozinki.
01:03
The password requirement up through 2009
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Uvjet za prihvaćenu lozinku do 2009.
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was just that you had to have a password
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je bio da lozinka sadrži
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with at least one character.
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barem jedan znak.
01:10
Pretty easy. But then they changed things,
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Jednostavno. Ali onda su se pravila promijenila.
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and at the end of 2009, they announced
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Krajem 2009. najavljena je
01:15
that we were going to have a new policy,
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nova politika.
01:17
and this new policy required
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Ta nova politika je zahtijevala
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passwords that were at least eight characters long,
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lozinke duge minimalno osam znakova,
01:22
with an uppercase letter, lowercase letter,
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s velikim slovima, malim slovima
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a digit, a symbol,
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brojem, simbolom,
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you couldn't use the same character more than three times,
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isti znak se ne smije koristiti više od tri puta,
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and it wasn't allowed to be in a dictionary.
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i riječ nije smjela biti iz rječnika.
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Now, when they implemented this new policy,
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Kada su implementirali tu novu politiku,
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a lot of people, my colleagues and friends,
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puno ljudi, mojih kolega i prijatelja,
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came up to me and they said, "Wow,
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me je pitalo:
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now that's really unusable.
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"Ovo je zbilja neprimjenjivo.
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Why are they doing this to us,
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Zašto nam to rade
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and why didn't you stop them?"
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i zašto ih ti nisi zaustavila?"
01:41
And I said, "Well, you know what?
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A ja sam rekla: "Znaš što?
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They didn't ask me."
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Nisu me niti pitali."
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But I got curious, and I decided to go talk
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Ali sam postala znatiželjna i odlučila sam razgovarati
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to the people in charge of our computer systems
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s ljudima zaduženim za računalne sustave
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and find out what led them to introduce
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i otkriti što ih je navelo da uvedu
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this new policy,
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ovu novu politiku.
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and they said that the university
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Rekli su mi da se sveučilište
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had joined a consortium of universities,
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pridružilo konzorciju sveučilišta,
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and one of the requirements of membership
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a jedan od uvjeta za članstvo je
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was that we had to have stronger passwords
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da članovi imaju jake lozinke.
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that complied with some new requirements,
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Te lozinke su morale odgovarati novim pravilima,
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and these requirements were that our passwords
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ta pravila su zahtijevala da naše lozinke
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had to have a lot of entropy.
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budu poprilično entropične.
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Now entropy is a complicated term,
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Entropija je kompliciran termin,
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but basically it measures the strength of passwords.
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ali u pravilu, mjeri jačinu lozinki.
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But the thing is, there isn't actually
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Ali, stvar je u tome što ne postoji
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a standard measure of entropy.
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standardna mjera entropije.
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Now, the National Institute of Standards and Technology
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Nacionalni institut za standarde i tehnologije
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has a set of guidelines
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ima skup smjernica
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which have some rules of thumb
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koje sadrže nekoliko odokativnih pravila
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for measuring entropy,
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za mjerenje entropije,
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but they don't have anything too specific,
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ali nemaju nikakva specifična pravila.
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and the reason they only have rules of thumb
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Razlog za to je taj
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is it turns out they don't actually have any good data
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što nemaju nikakvih pravih podataka
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on passwords.
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o lozinkama.
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In fact, their report states,
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U njihovom izvještaju stoji:
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"Unfortunately, we do not have much data
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"Nažalost, nemamo mnogo podataka
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on the passwords users choose under particular rules.
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o lozinkama koje korisnici odabiru pri određenim pravilima.
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NIST would like to obtain more data
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NIST bi želio prikupiti više podataka
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on the passwords users actually choose,
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o lozinkama koje korisnici odabiru,
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but system administrators are understandably reluctant
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ali sistemski administratori, su razumljivo, nevoljni
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to reveal password data to others."
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otkriti podatke o lozinkama trećim stranama."
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So this is a problem, but our research group
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Ovo je problem, ali naša istraživačka skupina
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looked at it as an opportunity.
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je to vidjela kao mogućnost.
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We said, "Well, there's a need for good password data.
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Rekli smo: "Postoji potreba za dobrim podacima o lozinkama.
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Maybe we can collect some good password data
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Možda mi možemo prikupiti te podatke.
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and actually advance the state of the art here.
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I unaprijediti vrhunsku tehnologiju.
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So the first thing we did is,
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Prva stvar koju smo napravili je
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we got a bag of candy bars
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da smo nabavili vreću čokoladica,
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and we walked around campus
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s kojim smo hodali po kampusu,
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and talked to students, faculty and staff,
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i razgovarali sa studentima, profesorima i osobljem
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and asked them for information
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i tražili ih informacije
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about their passwords.
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o njihovim lozinkama.
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Now we didn't say, "Give us your password."
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Nismo ih tražili da nam daju svoje lozinke.
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No, we just asked them about their password.
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Ne, mi smo ih samo pitali o njima.
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How long is it? Does it have a digit?
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Koliko su duge? Imaju li broj?
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Does it have a symbol?
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Imaju li simbol?
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And were you annoyed at having to create
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Smeta li vam što ste morali kreirati
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a new one last week?
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novu prošli tjedan?
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So we got results from 470 students,
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Dobili smo rezultate 470 studenata
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faculty and staff,
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profesora i osoblja,
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and indeed we confirmed that the new policy
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i zaista se potvrdilo da im je ova nova politika
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was very annoying,
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jako zasmetala.
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but we also found that people said
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Također smo otkrili da
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they felt more secure with these new passwords.
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su se ljudi osjećali sigurnije s novim lozinkama.
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We found that most people knew
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Otkrili smo da većina ljudi zna
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they were not supposed to write their password down,
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da ne bi smjeli zapisivati lozinke,
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and only 13 percent of them did,
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i samo 13 posto njih to radi,
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but disturbingly, 80 percent of people
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ali ono što je uznemirujuće 80 posto
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said they were reusing their password.
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njih koristi stare lozinke.
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Now, this is actually more dangerous
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To je puno opasnije od
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than writing your password down,
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zapisivanja lozinke
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because it makes you much more susceptible to attackers.
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jer vas čini podložnijim napadima.
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So if you have to, write your passwords down,
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Dakle, ako baš morate, zapišite svoju lozinku,
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but don't reuse them.
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ali, nemojte ponovno koristiti staru.
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We also found some interesting things
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Otkrili smo i neke zanimljivih stvari
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about the symbols people use in passwords.
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o simbolima koji se koriste.
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So CMU allows 32 possible symbols,
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CMU dopušta korištenje 32 moguća znaka,
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but as you can see, there's only a small number
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ali kao što vidite, mali broj
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that most people are using,
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njih se koristi.
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so we're not actually getting very much strength
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Tako da lozinka ne dobiva puno
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from the symbols in our passwords.
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na snazi korištenjem simbola.
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So this was a really interesting study,
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Ovo je bila jako zanimljiva studija,
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and now we had data from 470 people,
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i dobili smo podatke od 470 ispitanika,
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but in the scheme of things,
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ali generalno,
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that's really not very much password data,
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ne radi se o puno podataka.
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and so we looked around to see
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Zato smo istraživali
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where could we find additional password data?
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gdje možemo pronaći još podataka.
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So it turns out there are a lot of people
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Tako smo pronašli da postoji hrpa ljudi
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going around stealing passwords,
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koji kradu lozinke,
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and they often go and post these passwords
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a onda ih često objavljuju
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on the Internet.
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na Internetu.
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So we were able to get access
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Uspjeli smo pristupiti
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to some of these stolen password sets.
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nekima od tih ukradenih lozinki.
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This is still not really ideal for research, though,
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To nije baš idealna situacija kada se radi o istraživanju
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because it's not entirely clear
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jer nije posve jasno
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where all of these passwords came from,
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odakle potječu te lozinke
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or exactly what policies were in effect
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i pod kojim pravilima
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when people created these passwords.
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su ih kreirali korisnici.
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So we wanted to find some better source of data.
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Zbog toga smo željeli pronaći bolji izvor podataka.
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So we decided that one thing we could do
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Odlučili smo se je najbolji način
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is we could do a study and have people
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da napravimo studiju i zamolimo ljude
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actually create passwords for our study.
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da kreiraju lozinke za našu studiju.
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So we used a service called Amazon Mechanical Turk,
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Koristili smo servis koji se zove Amazon Mechanical Turk.
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and this is a service where you can post
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To je servis na kojem se objavljuju
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a small job online that takes a minute,
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jednostavni poslovi koji traju minutu,
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a few minutes, an hour,
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nekoliko minuta ili sat,
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and pay people, a penny, ten cents, a few dollars,
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i plaćaju peni, 10 centi ili nekoliko dolara,
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to do a task for you,
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ljudima nakon što izvrše zadatak.
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and then you pay them through Amazon.com.
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Plaćanje se odvija preko Amazona.
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So we paid people about 50 cents
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Mi smo ljudima plaćali oko 50 centi
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to create a password following our rules
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za stvaranje lozinki pod određenim pravilima
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and answering a survey,
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i sudjelovanje u anketi.
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and then we paid them again to come back
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Ponovno smo im platili da se vrate
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two days later and log in
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za dva dana i ulogiraju
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using their password and answering another survey.
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koristeći lozinke i odgovore na drugi upitnik.
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So we did this, and we collected 5,000 passwords,
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Tako smo prikupili 5.000 lozinki
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and we gave people a bunch of different policies
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uz hrpu različitih politika i pravila
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to create passwords with.
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za stvaranje lozinki.
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So some people had a pretty easy policy,
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Neki ispitanicu su imali jednostavna pravila,
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we call it Basic8,
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nazvali smo ih Basic8,
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and here the only rule was that your password
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gdje je jedino pravilo bilo da lozinka
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had to have at least eight characters.
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ima najmanje osam znakova.
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Then some people had a much harder policy,
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Drugi su morali poštovati kompliciranije politike,
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and this was very similar to the CMU policy,
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slične onima na CMU-u,
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that it had to have eight characters
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gdje je moralo biti osam znakova
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including uppercase, lowercase, digit, symbol,
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uključujući velika i mala slova, broj i simbol,
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and pass a dictionary check.
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i proći provjeru rječnika.
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And one of the other policies we tried,
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Testirali smo još jednu politiku,
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and there were a whole bunch more,
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a bilo ih je puno više,
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but one of the ones we tried was called Basic16,
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bila je Basic16,
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and the only requirement here
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s pravilom da
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was that your password had to have at least 16 characters.
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lozinka mora imati najmanje 16 znakova.
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All right, so now we had 5,000 passwords,
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Dakle, skupili smo 5.000 lozinki,
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and so we had much more detailed information.
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imali smo detaljne informacije.
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Again we see that there's only a small number
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Ponovno smo uvidjeli da postoji mali
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of symbols that people are actually using
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broj simbola koje korisnici koriste
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in their passwords.
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u svojim lozinkama.
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We also wanted to get an idea of how strong
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Isto tako, željeli smo dobiti ideju
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the passwords were that people were creating,
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koliko jake lozinke korisnici kreiraju.
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but as you may recall, there isn't a good measure
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Ali, ako se sjećate, ne postoji
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of password strength.
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pouzdana mjera jačine lozinke.
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So what we decided to do was to see
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Zato smo odlučili otkriti
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how long it would take to crack these passwords
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koliko vremena treba za razbijanje lozinke,
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using the best cracking tools
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koristeći najbolje alate za razbijanje lozinki,
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that the bad guys are using,
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a koje koriste loši momci.
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or that we could find information about
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I one o kojima smo mogli pronaći informacije
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in the research literature.
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u literaturi.
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So to give you an idea of how bad guys
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Kako loši momci
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go about cracking passwords,
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razbijaju lozinke?
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they will steal a password file
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Oni kradu datoteke s lozinkama
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that will have all of the passwords
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koje sadrže sve lozinke
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in kind of a scrambled form, called a hash,
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u šifriranom, haširanom obliku.
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and so what they'll do is they'll make a guess
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Tada pogađaju
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as to what a password is,
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koja je lozinka,
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run it through a hashing function,
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dešifriraju je pomoću hash funkcije
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and see whether it matches
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kako bi vidjeli poklapa li se
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the passwords they have on their stolen password list.
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s lozinkama koje su prije ukradene.
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So a dumb attacker will try every password in order.
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Tako će glup napadač probavati svaku lozinku po redu.
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They'll start with AAAAA and move on to AAAAB,
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Početi će s AAAAA, pa nastavit s AAAAB,
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and this is going to take a really long time
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i tako će proći puno vremena
07:27
before they get any passwords
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prije nego uspije otkriti lozinku.
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that people are really likely to actually have.
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za koju je izgledno da ju ljudi koriste.
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A smart attacker, on the other hand,
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Pametan napadač,
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does something much more clever.
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je puno mudriji.
07:34
They look at the passwords
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On provjerava nalaze li se
07:36
that are known to be popular
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popularne lozinke
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from these stolen password sets,
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među ukradenim setovima lozinki.
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and they guess those first.
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Njih će prve pogađati.
07:41
So they're going to start by guessing "password,"
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Krenuti će s "password" (eng. lozinka),
07:43
and then they'll guess "I love you," and "monkey,"
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nakon toga s "Volim te", "majmun"
07:46
and "12345678,"
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i "12345678".
07:48
because these are the passwords
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Jer su ovo lozinke koje
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that are most likely for people to have.
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će koristiti najviše ljudi.
07:52
In fact, some of you probably have these passwords.
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Zapravo, vjerojatno netko od vas ih vjerojatno ima.
07:57
So what we found
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Što smo otkrili
07:58
by running all of these 5,000 passwords we collected
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testirajući tih 5000 lozinki koje smo prikupili,
08:01
through these tests to see how strong they were,
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kako bismo otkrili koliko su jake,
08:06
we found that the long passwords
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jest to da su duge lozinke
08:08
were actually pretty strong,
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poprilično jake,
08:10
and the complex passwords were pretty strong too.
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isto kao i kompleksne.
08:13
However, when we looked at the survey data,
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Međutim, kada smo proučavali podatke iz anketa,
08:15
we saw that people were really frustrated
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otkrili smo frustriranost ljudi
08:18
by the very complex passwords,
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kompleksnim lozinkama,
08:21
and the long passwords were a lot more usable,
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i duge lozinke su puno više primjenjive,
08:23
and in some cases, they were actually
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a u nekim slučajevima,
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even stronger than the complex passwords.
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su i jače nego kompleksne.
08:27
So this suggests that,
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Zaključak koji se nameće je da
08:29
instead of telling people that they need
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umjesto zahtijevanja da
08:30
to put all these symbols and numbers
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lozinke moraju sadržavati
08:32
and crazy things into their passwords,
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sve te simbole, brojeve i lude stvari,
08:35
we might be better off just telling people
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bolje bi bilo da zahtijevamo da
08:37
to have long passwords.
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imaju duge lozinke.
08:39
Now here's the problem, though:
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Ali, u ovome je problem:
08:41
Some people had long passwords
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Neki ljudi su imali duge lozinke
08:43
that actually weren't very strong.
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koje zapravo i nisu baš jake.
08:45
You can make long passwords
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Možeš kreirati dugu lozinku
08:47
that are still the sort of thing
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koju će napadač svejedno
08:49
that an attacker could easily guess.
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vrlo lako pogoditi.
08:50
So we need to do more than just say long passwords.
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Tako da trebamo puno više od samo duge lozinke.
08:54
There has to be some additional requirements,
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Moraju postojati još neki uvjeti
08:56
and some of our ongoing research is looking at
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i istraživanje koje trenutno provodimo promatra
08:59
what additional requirements we should add
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koji su to dodatni uvjeti koje moramo dodati
09:01
to make for stronger passwords
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za jake lozinke,
09:03
that also are going to be easy for people
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koje će bit lako pamtljive
09:05
to remember and type.
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i koje će biti lako upisivati.
09:08
Another approach to getting people to have
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Jedan od pristupa je
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stronger passwords is to use a password meter.
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korištenje lozinkomjera.
09:12
Here are some examples.
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Evo nekih primjera.
09:14
You may have seen these on the Internet
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Možda ste to vidjeli na Internetu
09:15
when you were creating passwords.
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kada kreirate lozinke.
09:18
We decided to do a study to find out
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Istraživali smo
09:21
whether these password meters actually work.
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funkcioniraju li ti lozinkomjeri.
09:23
Do they actually help people
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Pomažu li korisnicima
09:25
have stronger passwords,
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pri kreiranju jačih lozinki,
09:26
and if so, which ones are better?
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i ako da, koje su bolje?
09:28
So we tested password meters that were
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Testirali smo te lozinkomjere
09:31
different sizes, shapes, colors,
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različitih veličina, oblika, boja
09:33
different words next to them,
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s različitim riječima,
09:34
and we even tested one that was a dancing bunny.
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čak smo i testirali onog koji je u obliku zečića koji pleše.
09:38
As you type a better password,
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Što je lozinka bolja
09:39
the bunny dances faster and faster.
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zeko pleše brže i brže.
09:42
So this was pretty fun.
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Ovo je bilo zabavno.
09:44
What we found
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Otkrili smo da
09:46
was that password meters do work.
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lozinkomjeri zbilja funkcioniraju.
09:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:51
Most of the password meters were actually effective,
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Većina njih je zapravo vrlo učinkovita,
09:55
and the dancing bunny was very effective too,
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čak i zeko koji pleše je učinkovit,
09:57
but the password meters that were the most effective
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ali oni koji su najučinkovitiji
10:00
were the ones that made you work harder
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su oni koji te natjeraju na razmišljanje
10:02
before they gave you that thumbs up and said
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prije nego ti daju odobrenje
10:04
you were doing a good job,
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i pohvale te.
10:06
and in fact we found that most
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Saznali smo da je većina
10:07
of the password meters on the Internet today
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lozinkomjera na Internetu danas
10:10
are too soft.
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10:10
They tell you you're doing a good job too early,
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previše popustljiva.
Prerano će te pohvaliti,
10:13
and if they would just wait a little bit
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a da pričekaju samo malo
10:15
before giving you that positive feedback,
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s pozitivnom povratnom informacijom,
10:17
you probably would have better passwords.
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vjerojatno biste imali bolje lozinke.
10:20
Now another approach to better passwords, perhaps,
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Drugi pristup za kreiranje boljih lozinki, je možda,
10:24
is to use pass phrases instead of passwords.
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korištenje frazi umjesto lozinki.
10:27
So this was an xkcd cartoon from a couple of years ago,
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Ovo je xkcd strip star nekoliko godina
10:30
and the cartoonist suggests
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gdje crtač predlaže
10:32
that we should all use pass phrases,
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da bismo trebali koristiti fraze kao lozinke,
10:34
and if you look at the second row of this cartoon,
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i ako pogledate drugi red crteža,
10:37
you can see the cartoonist is suggesting
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vidjeti ćete crtačevu ideju
10:39
that the pass phrase "correct horse battery staple"
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da bi fraza "ispravan konj baterija spajalica"
10:42
would be a very strong pass phrase
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bila vrlo jaka fraza-lozinka
10:45
and something really easy to remember.
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i lako pamtljiva.
10:47
He says, in fact, you've already remembered it.
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On kaže, zapravo, da ste je već zapamtili.
10:50
And so we decided to do a research study
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Tako smo se odlučili za istraživanje
10:52
to find out whether this was true or not.
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kako bismo otkrili je li to istina.
10:54
In fact, everybody who I talk to,
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Zapravo, svi s kojima sam razgovarala,
10:56
who I mention I'm doing password research,
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a spomenula sam im istraživanje
10:58
they point out this cartoon.
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su spomenuli taj strip.
10:59
"Oh, have you seen it? That xkcd.
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"Vidjela si ga? Taj xkcd.
11:01
Correct horse battery staple."
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Ispravan konj baterija spajalica."
11:03
So we did the research study to see
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Proveli smo istraživanje
11:04
what would actually happen.
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kako bismo vidjeli što bi se dogodilo.
11:07
So in our study, we used Mechanical Turk again,
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Ponovno smo koristili Mechanical Turk,
11:10
and we had the computer pick the random words
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a računalo je nasumice izabiralo riječi
11:14
in the pass phrase.
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za frazu-lozinku.
11:15
Now the reason we did this
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Razlog za to je taj
11:16
is that humans are not very good
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što ljudi nisu osobito dobri
11:18
at picking random words.
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u odabiru slučajnih i nasumičnih riječi.
11:19
If we asked a human to do it,
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Da smo ljude pitali da ih sami odaberu,
11:21
they would pick things that were not very random.
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oni bi odabrali riječi koje nisu nimalo nasumične.
11:24
So we tried a few different conditions.
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Koristili smo nekoliko uvjetovanja.
11:26
In one condition, the computer picked
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U jednom je računalo odabiralo
11:28
from a dictionary of the very common words
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iz rječnika vrlo čestih riječi
11:30
in the English language,
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u engleskom jeziku,
11:31
and so you'd get pass phrases like
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pa smo dobili fraze-lozinke kao što je
11:33
"try there three come."
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"probati ondje tri dolaze".
11:35
And we looked at that, and we said,
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Kada smo to vidjeli, pomislili smo
11:37
"Well, that doesn't really seem very memorable."
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da se to ne čini baš jako pamtljivo.
11:40
So then we tried picking words
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Nakon toga smo odabirali riječi
11:42
that came from specific parts of speech,
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koje dolaze iz specifičnih dijelova govora,
11:44
so how about noun-verb-adjective-noun.
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i formu imenica-glagol-pridjev-imenica.
11:47
That comes up with something that's sort of sentence-like.
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To je sada već izgledalo kao rečenica.
11:49
So you can get a pass phrase like
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Fraze-lozinke su zvučale kao
11:51
"plan builds sure power"
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"plan gradi sigurnu energiju"
11:53
or "end determines red drug."
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ili "kraj određuje crveni lijek".
11:55
And these seemed a little bit more memorable,
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Ove su se činile više pamtljive,
11:58
and maybe people would like those a little bit better.
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možda će se ispitanicima više svidjeti.
12:01
We wanted to compare them with passwords,
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Željeli smo ih usporediti s lozinkama,
12:03
and so we had the computer pick random passwords,
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imali smo računalo koje generira lozinke
12:07
and these were nice and short, but as you can see,
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koje, iako su bile kratke i drage,
12:09
they don't really look very memorable.
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nisu izgledale jako pamtljive.
12:11
And then we decided to try something called
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Odlučili smo probati nešto što se zove
12:13
a pronounceable password.
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izgovorljiva lozinka.
12:14
So here the computer picks random syllables
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Računalo odabire slučajne slogove
12:17
and puts them together
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i slaže ih zajedno
12:18
so you have something sort of pronounceable,
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tako da se dobije nešto što je donekle izgovorljivo
12:20
like "tufritvi" and "vadasabi."
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kao "tufritvi" i "vadasabi".
12:23
That one kind of rolls off your tongue.
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Na tome se zbilja lomi jezik.
12:25
So these were random passwords that were
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To su bile nasumične lozinke koje
12:27
generated by our computer.
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je generiralo računalo.
12:30
So what we found in this study was that, surprisingly,
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Ono što smo otkrili bilo je iznenađujuće
12:33
pass phrases were not actually all that good.
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fraze-lozinke nisu se iskazale.
12:37
People were not really better at remembering
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Ispitanici nisu bolje pamtili
12:40
the pass phrases than these random passwords,
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fraze-lozinke od onih nasumičnih lozinki.
12:43
and because the pass phrases are longer,
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A kako su bile i duže,
12:45
they took longer to type
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bilo je potrebno puno više vremena za njihovo upisivanje
12:47
and people made more errors while typing them in.
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i ispitanici su radili više greški dok su ih upisivali.
12:50
So it's not really a clear win for pass phrases.
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Tako da fraze-lozinke nisu pobijedile.
12:53
Sorry, all of you xkcd fans.
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Žao mi je, xkcd fanovi.
12:56
On the other hand, we did find
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S druge strane, otkrili smo
12:58
that pronounceable passwords
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da su izgovorljive lozinke
13:00
worked surprisingly well,
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funkcionirale jako dobro
13:01
and so we actually are doing some more research
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tako da radimo još jedno istraživanje
13:04
to see if we can make that approach work even better.
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kako bismo otkrili možemo li tako riješiti bolje problem.
13:07
So one of the problems
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Jedan od problema
13:09
with some of the studies that we've done
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s tim istraživanjima je
13:10
is that because they're all done
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taj što su rezultati dobiveni
13:12
using Mechanical Turk,
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pomoću Mechanical Turka,
13:14
these are not people's real passwords.
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odnosno, to nisu prave lozinke.
13:15
They're the passwords that they created
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To su lozinke koje koje su korisnici kreirali
13:18
or the computer created for them for our study.
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ili je računalo generiralo za potrebe istraživanja.
13:20
And we wanted to know whether people
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Mi smo željeli znati bi li se
13:22
would actually behave the same way
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ispitanici jednako ponašali
13:24
with their real passwords.
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kada bi morali kreirati prave lozinke.
13:26
So we talked to the information security office at Carnegie Mellon
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Zato smo razgovarali s Uredom za informacijsku sigurnost na CMU-u
13:30
and asked them if we could have everybody's real passwords.
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i pitali ih možemo li dobiti prave lozinke korisnika.
13:34
Not surprisingly, they were a little bit reluctant
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Nije iznenađenje da nisu
13:35
to share them with us,
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željeli podijeliti ih s nama,
13:37
but we were actually able to work out
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ali smo uspjeli smisliti
13:39
a system with them
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sustav s njima
13:40
where they put all of the real passwords
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u kojem su sve prave lozinke
13:42
for 25,000 CMU students, faculty and staff,
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25.000 studenata, profesora i osoblja,
13:45
into a locked computer in a locked room,
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pohranili u zaključano računalo, u zaključanu sobu,
13:47
not connected to the Internet,
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koja nije povezana na Internet,
13:49
and they ran code on it that we wrote
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i provukli kroz kod koji smo mi napisali
13:51
to analyze these passwords.
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za analizu lozinki.
13:53
They audited our code.
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Oni su provjerili naš kod.
13:54
They ran the code.
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Oni su ubacili kod.
13:55
And so we never actually saw
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Tako da mi zapravo nismo vidjeli
13:57
anybody's password.
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ničiju lozinku.
14:00
We got some interesting results,
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Dobili smo zanimljive rezultate.
14:02
and those of you Tepper students in the back
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Studentima na Tepperu, koji sjede iza
14:03
will be very interested in this.
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će ovo biti jako zanimljivo.
14:06
So we found that the passwords created
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Dakle, otkrili smo da su lozinke koje su kreirali
14:10
by people affiliated with the school of computer science
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studenti informatike
14:12
were actually 1.8 times stronger
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1,8 puta jače
14:14
than those affiliated with the business school.
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od onih koje su kreirali studenti ekonomije.
14:18
We have lots of other really interesting
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Također smo dobili puno zanimljivih
14:20
demographic information as well.
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demografskih informacija.
14:22
The other interesting thing that we found
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Zanimljivo je otkriće da
14:24
is that when we compared the Carnegie Mellon passwords
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kada smo usporedili lozinke sveučilišta
14:27
to the Mechanical Turk-generated passwords,
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s onima s Mechanical Turka,
14:29
there was actually a lot of similarities,
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pronašli smo puno sličnosti.
14:31
and so this helped validate our research method
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To je potvrdilo naše istraživačke metode
14:33
and show that actually, collecting passwords
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i pokazalo da je prikupljanje lozinki
14:36
using these Mechanical Turk studies
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za istraživanje koristeći Mechanical Turk
14:38
is actually a valid way to study passwords.
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dobar način za proučavanje lozinki.
14:41
So that was good news.
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To su bile dobre vijesti.
14:43
Okay, I want to close by talking about
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U redu, željela bih zaključiti
14:45
some insights I gained while on sabbatical
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s nekoliko stvari koje sam uvidjela dok sam bila prošle godine
14:47
last year in the Carnegie Mellon art school.
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na slobodnoj godini na umjetničkom odsjeku Carnegie Mellon-a.
14:51
One of the things that I did
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Jedna od stvari koje sam napravila
14:52
is I made a number of quilts,
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je da sam napravila nekoliko popluna.
14:53
and I made this quilt here.
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I ovaj ovdje.
14:55
It's called "Security Blanket."
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Zove se "Sigurnosna dekica".
14:57
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:59
And this quilt has the 1,000
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Taj poplun ima 1.000
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most frequent passwords stolen
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lozinki koje se najčešće ukradu,
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from the RockYou website.
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a nalaze se na stranici RockYou.
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And the size of the passwords is proportional
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Veličina lozinke je proporcionalna
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to how frequently they appeared
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učestalosti njezina pojavljivanja
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in the stolen dataset.
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u setovima ukradenih lozinki.
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And what I did is I created this word cloud,
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Stvorila sam ovaj oblak riječi,
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and I went through all 1,000 words,
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proučila svih tih 1.000 riječi,
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and I categorized them into
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i kategorizirala ih
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loose thematic categories.
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u okvirne tematske kategorije.
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And it was, in some cases,
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U nekim slučajevima
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it was kind of difficult to figure out
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je bilo teško odrediti
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what category they should be in,
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kojoj bi kategoriji trebali pripadati.
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and then I color-coded them.
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Isto tako sam im pridružila boju.
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So here are some examples of the difficulty.
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Ovo je nekoliko primjera onih teških.
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So "justin."
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Na primjer "justin".
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Is that the name of the user,
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Je li to ime korisnika,
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their boyfriend, their son?
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korisnikova dečka ili sina?
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Maybe they're a Justin Bieber fan.
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Možda je korisnik samo fan Justina Bibera.
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Or "princess."
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Ili "princess".
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Is that a nickname?
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Je li to nadimak?
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Are they Disney princess fans?
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Ili se radi o fanu princeza iz Disneyjevih bajki.
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Or maybe that's the name of their cat.
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Može biti i ime mačke.
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"Iloveyou" appears many times
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"Volimte" se često pojavljuje
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in many different languages.
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na različitim jezicima.
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There's a lot of love in these passwords.
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Puno je ljubavi u lozinkama.
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If you look carefully, you'll see there's also
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Ako pažljivo promatrate,
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some profanity,
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vidjeti ćete i vulgarnosti.
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but it was really interesting to me to see
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Ali mi je zanimljivo vidjeti
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that there's a lot more love than hate
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da je puno više ljubavi nego mržnje
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in these passwords.
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u lozinkama.
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And there are animals,
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Također, tu su i životinje,
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a lot of animals,
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puno je životinja,
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and "monkey" is the most common animal
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"majmun" je najčešća životinja
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and the 14th most popular password overall.
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i 14. najpopularnija lozinka ukupno.
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And this was really curious to me,
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A to mi je bilo jako zanimljivo,
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and I wondered, "Why are monkeys so popular?"
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pitala sam se zašto su majmuni toliko popularni.
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And so in our last password study,
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Zato smo u zadnjem istraživanju,
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any time we detected somebody
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svaki put kada bismo detektirali
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creating a password with the word "monkey" in it,
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kreiranje lozinke s riječi "majmun",
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we asked them why they had a monkey in their password.
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pitali ispitanika zašto njihova lozinka ima majmuna u sebi.
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And what we found out --
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i otkrili smo,
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we found 17 people so far, I think,
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mislim da zasada imamo 17-tero njih,
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who have the word "monkey" --
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s riječi "majmun" u lozinki.
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We found out about a third of them said
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Otkrili smo da trećina njih
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they have a pet named "monkey"
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ima ljubimca koji se zove "majmun",
16:39
or a friend whose nickname is "monkey,"
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ili prijatelja čiji je nadimak "majmun".
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and about a third of them said
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Trećina njih je rekla
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that they just like monkeys
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da vole majmune
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and monkeys are really cute.
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i da su im oni baš slatki.
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And that guy is really cute.
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Ovaj stvarno je sladak.
16:50
So it seems that at the end of the day,
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Tako, sve u svemu, čini se da
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when we make passwords,
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kada kreiramo lozinke,
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we either make something that's really easy
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mi ili smislimo nešto što je vrlo jednostavno
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to type, a common pattern,
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za napisati, nekakav poznati uzorak,
17:00
or things that remind us of the word password
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ili nešto na što nas podsjeća riječ lozinka,
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or the account that we've created the password for,
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ili račun za koji stvaramo lozinku.
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or whatever.
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ili kakogod.
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Or we think about things that make us happy,
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Ili razmišljamo o stvarima koje nas čine sretnima
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and we create our password
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pa kreiramo lozinke
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based on things that make us happy.
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bazirane na stvarima koje nas čine sretnima.
17:15
And while this makes typing
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Iako je time upisivanje
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and remembering your password more fun,
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i prisjećanje lozinke, zabavnije,
17:21
it also makes it a lot easier
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također je i jednostavnije
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to guess your password.
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tako pogoditi vašu lozinku.
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So I know a lot of these TED Talks
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Znam da je smisao TEDTalk-a
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are inspirational
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da vas inspiriraju
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and they make you think about nice, happy things,
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i da mislite o lijepim, stvarima koje vas čine sretnim,
17:30
but when you're creating your password,
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ali kada kreirate lozinku,
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try to think about something else.
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pokušajte razmišljati o nečemu drugome.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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