Deborah Scranton: Scenes from "The War Tapes"

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Traducător: Delia Halici Corector: Vreto Octavian
00:26
Three years ago, I got a phone call, based on an earlier film I had made,
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Acum trei ani, am primit un apel, bazat pe un film facut cu ceva timp in urma de mine,
00:29
with an offer to embed the New Hampshire National Guard.
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cu o oferta de a incorpora Garda Nationala New Hampshire.
00:33
My idea -- and literally, I woke up in the middle of the night,
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Ideea mea -- la propriu, m-am trezit in mijlocul noptii,
00:36
and we've all have those moments. You know, you go to sleep --
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si toti avem acele moment.
00:38
I was excited, with this phone call.
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Am fost entuziasmata, pentru acest apel.
00:41
I was thinking, I just finished making another film about World War II vets,
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Ma gandeam, ca abia terminasem de facut un film despre veteranii din Al doilea razboi mondial.
00:44
and I realized I'd gotten to know their stories,
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si mi-am dat seama ca am reusit sa le stiu povestile,
00:46
and I realized this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity
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si am mai realizat ca este o oportunitate unica in viata
00:50
to tell a warrior's story as it unfolded.
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sa spun povestea unui razboinic cand aceasta are loc.
00:52
So I went to bed that night pretty excited.
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Si am mers in pat in acea noapte entuziasmata.
00:55
Not sure of all the details, but excited.
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Nesigura de toate detaliile, dar entuziasmata.
01:00
It wasn't at four in the morning, but it was closer to midnight.
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Nu a fost patru dimineata, dar a fost aproape de miezul noptii.
01:02
Woke straight up. Wide-awake as could be.
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M-am trezit rapid. Cat de treaza s-ar putea.
01:04
And I had this idea: what if I could, in effect, virtually embed,
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Si aveam aceasta idee : cum ar fi daca as reda efectul in mod virtual?
01:07
and create a permeable relationship with the soldiers?
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Si sa creez o relatie permeabila cu soldatii?
01:10
To tell the story from the inside out, versus the outside in?
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Sa spun povestea din interior, contra celei din afara catre interior?
01:14
So, I called back Major Heilshorn,
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Asa ca l-am sunat inapoi pe Maiorul Heilsborn,
01:16
who's the public affairs officer of the New Hampshire National Guard.
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care este ofiterul de Relatii publice de la Garda Nationala New Hapshire.
01:18
And he knew me, so I was like, "Greg?"
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Ma cunostea asa ca i-am spus "Greg?"
01:21
He's like, "Yes, Deborah?"
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Si el a spus, "Da, Deborah?"
01:23
Told him my idea, and you know,
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I-am spus ideea mea, si stiti,
01:26
he is one of the bravest men in the world,
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este unul din cei mai viteji oameni din lume,
01:28
as is General Blair, who, in the end, gave me permission to try this experiment.
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ca si Generalul Blair, care mi-a dat in cele din urma permisiunea de a face acest experiment.
01:33
Within 10 days, I was down at Fort Dix.
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Pana in 10 zile eram la Fort Dix.
01:35
He gave me my pick of units.
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M-a lasat sa-mi aleg unitatea.
01:37
I picked one unit -- Charlie Company, Third of the 172nd,
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Am ales o unitate -- Compania lui Charlie, A treia din cele 172,
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they're mountain infantry -- for two reasons.
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acestia fiind infanterie de munte -- pentru doua motive.
01:42
One, they're infantry.
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Unu, sunt de infanterie,
01:44
Number two, they were going to be based at LSA Anaconda,
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Numarul doi, vor avea tabara la LSA Anaconda,
01:47
so I knew they would have Internet access.
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deci am stiut ca vor avea acces la internet.
01:49
The caveat for my access was I had to get the soldiers to volunteer.
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Singura cerinta pentru accesul meu era ca acesti soldati sa-si ofere serviciile din propria initiativa.
01:51
This was a big thing that
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Acest lucru a fost un lucru greu.
01:53
I think when Major H told me,
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Cred ca atunci cand Maiorul H. mi-a spus asta
01:55
I wasn't really totally gathering what that would mean.
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nu asimilasem cu totul ce a spus.
01:58
So what that meant was, when I went down to Fort Dix,
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Deci, cand am mers la Fort Dix,
02:00
I had to hop out in front of 180 guys and tell them of my vision.
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trebuia sa apar in fata a 180 de barbati si sa le spun viziunea mea.
02:04
You can imagine the hailstorm of questions I got.
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Va puteti imagina ce furtuna de intrebari am primit.
02:06
The opening one was,
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Cea de inceput a fost,
02:08
"What the fuck do you know about the National Guard?"
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"Ce dracu stii tu de Garda Nationala?"
02:11
I started with the 1607 Massachusetts Bay Colony Pequot Indian Wars.
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Am inceput cu Razboilele Indiene Massachusetts Bay Colony Pequod din 1607.
02:16
Gave them about a nine minute response,
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Le-am dat un raspuns de vreo 9 minute,
02:19
and there we went.
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si apoi am continuat.
02:21
So, I'd like to show the clip of the film.
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Si as vrea sa va arat un clip din film.
02:24
It's our trailer, because I know, obviously you guys are busy,
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Este filmuletul nostru de prezentare, pentru ca e de inteles ca multi sunteti ocupati --
02:27
many of you may not have had a chance to see it.
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multi dintre voi nereusind poate sa-l vedeti.
02:29
So, I want to show the trailer,
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Deci va voi arata filmuletul de prezentare,
02:31
and then I'm going to take apart one scene in detail.
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apoi voi diseca fiecare scena in detaliu.
02:34
If we could roll?
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S-ar putea difuza?
02:43
(Video) Stephen Pink: This is Sergeant Stephen Pink.
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Pink: Aici este Sergentul Stephen Pink.
02:44
Michael Moriarty: Specialist Michael Moriarty.
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Moriarty: Specialist Michael Moriarty/
02:46
Zack Bazzi: Do I really want to go? Probably not.
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Bazzi: Chiar vreau sa merg? Probabil nu.
02:50
Soldier: We're not supposed to talk to the media.
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Soldat: Nu ar trebui sa vorbim cu media.
02:52
SP: I'm not the media, dammit!
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P: nu sunt media, la naiba!
02:56
MM: The day is here. Life will change.
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M: A venit ZIUA. Viata se va schimba.
02:58
Voice: The real deal, man! Narrator: You ready?
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Soldat: Adevarata experienta, omule! Esti pregatit?
03:00
Soldier: Bring it on! Narrator: You ready? Voice 2: Iraq, here we come!
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Sa te vad! Esti Pregatit? Iraq , venim spre tine!
03:06
ZB: Every soldier eventually wants to go in combat.
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B: Orice soldat in cele din urma vrea sa mearga la lupta.
03:08
It's natural instinct.
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Este un instinct natural.
03:09
SP: If you let fear get to you,
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P: Daca lasi frica sa te doboare,
03:11
then you're not going to be doing your job.
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atunci nu iti vei face slujba.
03:13
MM: Every single time you go out there, there's attacks.
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M: De fiecare data cand mergi acolo, exista atacuri.
03:15
It's unbelievable.
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Este incredibil.
03:19
ZB: Hey, Nestor, your ass crack is right in my face.
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B: Hey Nestor, crapatura fundului tau e exact in fata mea.
03:24
Soldiers: IV! Are we on fire? IV!
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Soldat: IV. Suntem atacati?
03:26
Man down! Man down!
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Om doborat. Om doborat.
03:30
MM: Keep going, brother. You wanna play?
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M: Continua, frate. Vrei sa te joci?
03:33
Michael Moriarty's Wife: It's really hard for him to not have his dad.
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Sotia lui Moriaty: II este foarte greu fara tatal sau.
03:36
MM: This little kid is in the middle of a war zone.
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M: Acest copil este in mijlocul zonei de razboi.
03:42
Stephen Pink's Girlfriend: In the beginning, he's like, "Write something dirty!"
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Prietena lui Pink: La inceput, era ceva de genul, "Scrie ceva murdar!"
03:46
George W. Bush: The world's newest democracy.
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Geoge W. Bush: Noua Democratia mondiala.
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MM: They're shooting at me.
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M: Trag in mine.
03:54
SP: You don't put 150,000 troops in there,
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P: Nu pui 150 000 de trupe de soldati aici
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and say we're there to create democracy.
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si spui ca suntem aici pentru a crea democratia.
03:58
Soldier: We've got a drive through window at Burger King now.
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Soldat: Avem o intrare la Burger King acum.
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SP: We're here to create money.
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P: Suntem aici pentru a crea bani.
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MM: I support George Bush. We're not there for the oil.
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M: Il sustin pe George Bush. Nu suntem aici pentru petrol.
04:05
Jon Baril: The worst thing in my life.
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Jon Baril: Cel mai urat lucru din viata mea.
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SP: Baril, don't look at it, bud.
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P: Baril, nu te uita la el prietene.
04:09
Michael Moriarty's Wife: He's not the same person anymore.
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Sotia lui M: Nu mai este aceeasi persoana.
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MM: I will not go back.
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M: Nu ma voi mai intoarce.
04:16
Kevin Shangraw: The Iraqi people are who we are there to help --
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kevin Shangraw: Oamenii din Iraq sunt cei pentru care am venit aici sa ajutam--
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and we just killed one.
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si tocmai am ucis unu.
04:19
Soldiers: Sergeant Smith is down! Sergeant Smith is down?
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Soldat: Sergentul Smith e doborat!Sergentul Smith e doborat?
04:22
There they are! Right there! Fire, fire!
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Acolo sunt! Chiar acolo! Foc, foc!
04:32
JB: It'll be a better country in 20 years, 'cause we were there.
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Baril: Vor fi o tara mai buna in 20 de ani, pentru ca noi am fost acolo.
04:36
I hope.
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Sper.
04:48
(Applause) Deborah Scranton: Thank you.
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Deborah Scranton: Multumesc.
04:49
One of the things I'd like to talk to you about
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Unul din lucrurile pe care vreau sa le discut
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is having a conversation about something that is difficult to talk about.
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este sa avem o conversatie despre ceva greu de vorbit.
04:56
And I'd like to relate an experience I had here at TED.
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Si as vrea sa ma leg de o experienta care am avut-o la Ted.
04:59
I don't know how many of you might imagine it,
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Nu stiu cati din voi isi pot imagina,
05:02
but there's actually a TEDster who recently got back from Iraq.
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dar avem chiar un TEDster care s-a intors recent din Iraq.
05:07
Paul? Come on, stand up.
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Paul? Haide, ridica-te.
05:09
This is Paul Anthony.
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Acesta este Paul Anthony.
05:11
He served -- (Applause) -- with the Marines,
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A servit-- (Aplauze) - ca Puscas Marin,
05:16
and I want to tell you a little, brief story.
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si vreau sa va spun o povestire scurta.
05:20
We were one of the lucky ones
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Noi am fost unii din cei norocosi
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to get in the class with the Sony cameras and the Vista software.
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care au mers in clasa cu camere Sony si cu software Vista.
05:26
Right? And we started talking.
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Corect? Si am inceput sa vorbim.
05:27
People will see my tag, and they'll see "The War Tapes,"
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oamenii imi vedeau insigna, si vedea "casete de razboi"
05:29
and then we'll start talking about war.
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si apoi incepeam sa vorbim despre razboi.
05:31
We got in a conversation with some other people in the class,
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Am intrat intr-o conversatie cu cativa oameni din clasa,
05:35
and it went on and on.
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care a tinut mult.
05:37
I mean, we were there for an hour, talking.
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Adica, am stat acolo o ora, vorbind.
05:39
And it really highlighted something that I would like to ask
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Si a pus accent pe ceva ce as vrea sa va intreb
05:41
you guys to think about and hopefully to help with,
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si sa va ganditi in speranta ca ma puteti ajuta.
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which is, I think a lot of us are very afraid to have conversations about war,
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Adica, cred ca multi suntem speriati de a avea o conversatie despre razboi,
05:48
and about politics.
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si despre politica.
05:49
And really -- because maybe we're going to disagree.
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Si poate pentru ca nu vom fi de acord cu ceilalti.
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Maybe it's going to get uncomfortable.
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Poate va deveni incomod.
05:53
How do we open it up to really be able to have a conversation?
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Cum ne deschidem, pentru a putea avea o conversatie?
05:57
And you know, Paul was talking,
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Si stii, Paul vorbea,
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and he then turned to Constance and said,
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si apoi s-a intors catre Constance si a spus,
06:05
"You know, I wouldn't have this conversation if she weren't here,
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"Stii, nu as avea aceats aconversatie daca ea nu ar fi aici,
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because I know she has my back."
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pentru ca stiu ca ea imi e alaturi."
06:10
And I want to say, I was nervous.
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Adica, eram retinuta.
06:12
Because I'm used to doing Q&As.
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Chiar de sunt obisnuita sa fac prezentari.
06:14
I really related to what James was saying yesterday,
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Chiar am simtit acelas lucru ce-l spunea James ieri,
06:15
because I'm behind the camera.
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pentru ca eu sunt in spatele camerei.
06:17
You know, I can answer questions about my movie,
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Stii, pot sa raspund intrebarilor depre film,
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but for me to come up and talk for 18 minutes is a really long time.
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dar pentru mine sa vin si sa vorbesc pentru 18 minute e foarte mult.
06:21
So, I wanted to say, Paul, I'm happy you're here,
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Asa ca am vrut sa spun,"Paul, ma bucur ca esti aici,
06:24
because I know you have my back.
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pentru ca stiu ca ma sustii."
06:27
This film was not about the Internet,
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Filmul nu este despre Internet,
06:29
but it could not have been made without it.
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dar nu s-ar fi putut face fara acesta.
06:32
The guys' tapes on average took two weeks to get from Iraq to me.
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Casetele baietilor au ajuns in cam doua saptamani din Iraq la mine.
06:35
In the meantime, the soldiers -- we would email and IM.
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Intre timp, cu soldatii imi trimiteam mailuri si IM.
06:39
I didn't save all of them,
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Nu le-am salvat pe toate,
06:43
because I didn't realize at the beginning
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pentru ca nu am realizat la inceput
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that it would be something that I would want to keep track of.
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ca este ceva la care as vrea sa tin evidenta.
06:48
But there were 3,211 emails and IMs and text messages
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Dar au fost 3 311 emailuri si mesaje IM si mesaje text
06:53
that I was able to save.
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care am reusit sa le salvez.
06:55
The reason I quantify that is because we really embarked on this as a mutual journey
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Motivul pentru care am spus asta e pentru ca am pornit impreuna in aceasta calatorie
07:02
to really get inside of it.
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pentru a putea patrunde cu adevarat.
07:04
So I wanted to show you a clip,
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Si am vrut sa va arat o inregistare,
07:06
and then I was going tell you a little bit of how it got put together.
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apoi va voi spune ceva despre cum a fost realizat,
07:09
If we could roll the clip.
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daca s-ar putea difuza.
07:11
(Video) SP: Today is sport. [Unclear] Radio: [Unclear] Christian soldiers.
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Pink: Astazi e distractiv.
07:14
SP: We like to give these insurgents a fair chance.
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Vrem sa le oferim acestor rebeli o sansa corecta.
07:18
So, what we do, we ride with the windows down.
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Asa ca, mergem cu geamurile jos.
07:21
Because, you know, we obviously have the advantage. I'm just kidding.
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Pentru ca stii, cu siguranta avem un avantaj. Glumesc doar.
07:27
We don't fucking ride with the goddam windows down.
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Nu mergem cu geamurile netrase.
07:30
It's not true. Very unsafe.
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Nu este adevarat. Foarte periculos.
07:36
Whoa.
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Whoa.
07:37
Soldier: Right there.
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Soldat: Chiar acolo.
07:39
SP: All right, let's get over to that site.
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P: Bine, sa mergem in partea aceea.
07:43
Be advised, we're leaving Taji right now.
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Fii prevenit, parasim Taji chiar acum.
07:46
We believe that the blast was right outside the gate of Taji,
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Credem ca explozia a fost chiar in afara portii din Taji.
07:50
we're heading to that location now.
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ne indreptam spre acea locatie chiar acum.
07:54
Soldier: That's a fucking car bomb!
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Soldat: Este o masina cu bomba!
07:56
Soldier: Motherfuckers!
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Soldat: Nenorocitii!
07:57
Soldiers: Get your vest on!
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Soldat: Pune-ti vesta!
07:59
Hey, get over the fucking -- yeah, yeah.
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hey, da-te de pe-- da,da.
08:01
Any one-four elements get to the gate!
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Oricine, patru elemente sa ajunga la poarta!
08:03
SP: Sheriff one-six, or any one-four elements,
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P: Sheriff unu sase, sau oricare alte patru elemente,
08:06
we need you at the gate of Taji right now, over.
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avem nevoie de tine la poarte din Taji chiar acum, terminat.
08:09
Soldier: I'll walk you through it.
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Barbat: Va conduc eu printre.
08:11
(Voices)
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(Voci)
08:17
SP: Stay low. Head over to the right.
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P: Stai aplecat. Capul spre dreapta.
08:20
Get your bag, get your bag!
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Ia-ti geanta, ia-ti geanta CLS!
08:24
(Screams)
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(Tipete)
08:29
SP: It was mass casualties.
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P: Au fost pagube umane in masa.
08:31
Probably 20 dead, at least 20 or 30 wounded Iraqis.
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Probabil 20 morti, cel putin 20 sau 30 raniti .
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SP: It just looked like, you know,
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P: Era ca si cum -- stii tu,
08:44
someone had thrown a quarter through a guy,
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cineva ar fi aruncat o moneda prin tipul ala,
08:46
and it was just like -- there was no blood coming from the shrapnel wounds.
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si nu a fost sange care sa curga din ranile in forma de tija.
08:49
Everything was cauterized,
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Totul era cauterizat,
08:51
and it was just like there was a void going through the body.
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si era ca un void trecand prin corp.
08:55
This is the scene north.
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Acesta e partea de Nord.
08:59
They just removed a burnt body, or half a body from here.
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Tocmai au luat un corp ars, sau jumatate de corp de aici.
09:03
I don't think there was anything left from his abdominal down.
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Nu cred ca mai era ceva ramas din el din partea abdominala in jos.
09:10
This is blood.
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Acesta e sange.
09:13
And you know, you walk,
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Si stii, mergi,
09:15
and you hear the pieces of skin.
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si auzi bucati de piele si --
09:20
And that's it, that's all that's left.
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asta e tot, atat a ramas.
09:23
I remember giving three IVs, bandaging several wounded.
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Tin minte ca am pus 3 perfuzii, am badajat mai multe persoane ranite.
09:26
Soldiers sitting in the corner of a sandbag wall, shaking and screaming.
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Soldati in spatele unui zid de saci cu nisip, tremurand si tipand.
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Medics who were terrified and couldn't perform.
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Medici terifiati care nu-si putea face treaba.
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I later heard that Iraqi casualties were not to be treated in Taji.
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Mai tarziu am auzit ca ranile din Iraq nu trebuia sa fie tratate in Taji.
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They can work on the post for pennies, but can't die there.
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Pot lucra pe post pentru bani, dar nu pot sa moara aici.
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They've got to die outside.
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Trebuie sa moara afara.
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If one of those incompetent medical officers told me to stop treatment,
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Daca unii din acei ofiteri medicali incopetenti mi-ar fi spus sa termin tratamentul,
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I would've slit his throat right there.
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i-as fi taiat gatul chiar acolo.
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21:00 hours, and it's just our squad
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Ora 21, si este doar echipa noastra
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going through today's events in our heads,
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trecandu-ne prin cap toate evenimentele de astazi,
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whether we want to or not.
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chiar de vrem sau nu.
10:14
News Anchor: More violence in Iraq.
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Anchor: Mai multa violenta in Iraq.
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Twin suicide car bombings killed eight Iraqis and wounded dozens more
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Doua masini cu bomba au ucis opt Iraqieni si au ranit inca alte zeci
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near a coalition base north of Baghdad.
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langa o baza de coalitie la nord de Baghdad..
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SP: We made the news.
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P: Am ajuns la stiri.
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I feel exploited and proud at the same time.
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Ma simt exploatat si mandru in acelas timp.
10:25
I've lost all faith in the media --
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Am pierdut toata incredere in media --
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a hapless joke I would much rather laugh at than become a part of.
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o gluma nenorocoasa la care as prefera sa rad decat sa fac parte din ea.
10:32
I should really thank God for saving my lucky ass.
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Chiar ar trebui sa-i multumesc lui Dumnezeu pentru ca mi-a salvat fundul norocos azi.
10:35
I'll do that, then I'm gonna jerk off.
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Voi face asta, si pe urma ma voi masturba.
10:37
Because these pages smell like Linds,
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Pentru ca aceste pagini miros ca Lindz,
10:39
and there won't be any time for jerking off tomorrow.
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si nu va mai fi timp pentru masturbare maine.
10:42
Another mission at 06:00.
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Alta misiune la 6 am.
10:48
DS: Now -- (Applause) -- thanks.
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Deborah Scranton: Acum -- (Aplauze).Multumesc.
10:52
When I said earlier, to try and tell a story from the inside out, versus the outside in --
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Cand am spus mai devreme, ca incerc sa spun o poveste din interior, versus cea din afara spre interior --
10:57
part of what Chris said so eloquently in his introduction -- is this melding.
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parte din ce a spus Chris atat de elocvent este introducerea lui in acest mesaj.
11:02
It's a new way of trying to make a documentary.
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Este un nou mod de a incerca sa faci un documentar.
11:05
When I met the guys, and 10 of them agreed to take cameras --
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Cand am intalnit baietii, si 10 din ei au fost de acord sa ia camerele.
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in total, 21 ended up filming.
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in total, 21 au ajuns sa filmeze.
11:11
Five soldiers filmed the entire time.
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Cinci soldati au filmat tot timpul.
11:13
There are three featured in the film.
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Sunt trei prezentati in film.
11:15
The way I learned about Taji was Steve Pink sent me an email,
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Cum am auzit de Taji a fost prin Steve Pink care mi-a trimis un mail,
11:19
and in it, attached a photo of that burned body out at the car.
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si a atasat o poza a acelui cadavru ars din afara acelei masini.
11:22
And the tone from the email was,
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si tonul mailului a fost,
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you know, it had been a very bad day, obviously.
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stiti, a fost o zi foarte prosta, bineinteles.
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And I saw in my IM window that Mike Moriarty was at the base.
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Si am vazut in fereastra mea de IM ca Mike Moriatry era la baza.
11:31
So, I pinged Mike and I said,
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asa ca l-am alertat pe Mike si i-am spus,
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"Mike, can you please go get that interview with Pink?"
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"Mike, poti te rog sa te duci sa iei interviul cu Pink?
11:36
Because the thing that very often is missing is,
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Pentru ca lucrul care lipseste foarte des este,
11:38
in the military what they call "hot wash."
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ceea ce in armata este numit "dus fierbinte".
11:40
It's that immediate interview after something immediately happens, you know.
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Este acel interviu luat imediat dupa ce s-a intamplat ceva rapid.
11:43
And if you let time go by,
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Iar daca lasi timpul sa treaca,
11:45
it kind of softens and smooths the edges.
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lucrurile se cam inmoaie si se netezesc.
11:47
And for me, I really wanted that.
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iar eu, chiar vroiam acea inregistrare.
11:50
So, in order to get the intimacy,
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Si, pentru a obtine intimitatea,
11:52
to share that experience with you, the guys --
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de a imparti experienta cu tine, baietii --
11:55
the two most popular mounts --
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cele mai importante locuri --
11:57
there was a camera on the turret, the gun turret,
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a fost o camera pe turnulet -- turnuletul armei,
11:59
and then on the dashboard of the Humvee.
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si una pe bordul masinii Humvee,
12:01
Most of the Humvees, we ended up mounting two cameras in them.
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Pe majoritatea masinilor Humvee, am ajuns sa montam, doua camere in ele.
12:06
So you get to experience that in real time, right?
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Asa ca ajungi sa experimentezi asta in timp real, corect?
12:10
The interview that you see is the one that Mike went and did
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Interviul pe care l-ai vazut e cel pe care l-a facut Mike
12:14
within 24 hours of that episode happening.
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cu 24 de ore inainte de a se intampla acest episod.
12:17
Steve Pink reading his journal
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Steve Pink citindu-si jurnalul
12:19
happened five months after he came home.
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s-a intamplat cu 5 luni dupa ce s-a intors acasa.
12:21
I knew about that journal, but it was very, very private.
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Stiam desre acest jurnal, dar era foarte, foarte privat.
12:23
And you know, you earn someone's trust,
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Si stii, castigi increderea cuiva,
12:26
especially in doc filmmaking, through your relationship.
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in special in filmarea documentarelor, prin relatia voastra.
12:29
So, it wasn't until five months after he was home
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Si nu a fost decat dupa 5 luni de cand ajunse acasa
12:32
that he would read that journal.
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cand a citit jurnalul.
12:34
Now, the news footage I put in there to try to show --
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Acum, inregistrarea stirilor pe care le-am pus acolo pentru a le arata --
12:38
you know, I think mainstream media tries to do the best they can
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stii, cred ca media mainstream incearca sa faca tot ce poate
12:42
in the format that they have.
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in formatul pe care il au.
12:44
But the thing that I know you all have heard a lot of times,
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Dar un lucru sunt sigura ca l-ati auzit de multe ori,
12:46
American soldiers saying,
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soldati Americani spunand,
12:48
"Why don't they talk about the good stuff that we do?"
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"De ce nu vorbesc despre lucurile bune pe care le facem?"
12:50
OK, this is a perfect example.
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OK, acesta este un exemplu perfect.
12:53
Pink's squad and another squad spent their entire day outside the wire.
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Trupa Pink si alta si-au petrecut o zi intreaga inafara sarmei.
12:57
They didn't have to go outside the wire.
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Nu trebuiau sa iasa inafara sarmei.
12:59
There were not Americans hurt out there.
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Nu erau americani raniti acolo.
13:01
They spent their entire day outside the wire trying to save Iraqi lives --
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Si-au petrecut intreaga zi inafara sarmei incercand sa salveze viata iraquienilor --
13:06
the Iraqis who work on the post.
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iraqieni ce lucreaza pe post.
13:08
So, when you may hear soldiers complaining,
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Deci cand vei auzi soldati plangandu-se,
13:11
that's what they're talking about, you know?
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despre asta vorbesc, stii?
13:13
And I think it's such an amazing gift that they would share this
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Si cred ca este un adevarat cadou pentru ca impartasesc asta,
13:17
as a way of bridging.
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ca un mod de a face o legatura.
13:19
And when I talk about that polarity I get at so many different Q&As,
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Si cand vorbesc despre polaritate la diferite intruniri,
13:24
and people are really opinionated.
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oamenii au multe opinii.
13:26
But it seems like people don't want to hear so much,
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Dar pare ca oamenii nu prea vor sa auda.
13:28
or listen, or try to have an exchange.
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Sau asculte.Sau sa incearce sa aiba un schimb.
13:30
And I'm as fiery as the next person, but I really think --
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Si sunt la fel de patimasa ca urmatoarea persoana, dar chiar cred --
13:33
you know, different speakers have talked about their concern for the world,
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stiti, diferite persoane au vorbit despre preocuparea lor pentru lume,
13:38
and my concern is that we have to have these conversations.
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si grija mea e ca trebuie sa avem acest fel de conversatii.
13:41
And we have to be able to go into scary places where we may, you know,
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Si trebuie sa mergem in locuri infricosatoare pe care
13:45
we think we know.
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credem ca le cunostem.
13:47
But we just have to leave that little bit of openness, to know.
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Dar trebuie sa lasam acea deschidere, a cunoaste.
13:51
There's such a disconnect.
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Este o asa de mare deconectare.
13:53
And for me, it's trying to bridge that disconnect.
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Iar eu, doar incerc sa fac legatura acelei deconectari.
13:58
I'll share one story.
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va voi spune o intamplare.
14:00
I get -- I'm often asked, you know, for me,
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Sunt intrebata frecvent,
14:02
what have been some of the special moments from having worked on this film.
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care au fost unele din acele momente speciala in timp ce lucram la acest film.
14:06
And at screenings, inevitably --
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Dar la prezentari, inevitabil --
14:08
you know, as I'm sure all of you obviously do speaking stuff --
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stiti, doar toti faceti intalniri de genul acesta --
14:12
usually you have people who hang around and want to ask you more questions.
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de obicei sunt oameni ce vor sa mai ramana si sa iti puna mai multe intrebari.
14:16
And usually, the first questions are,
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Si de obicei primele intrebari sunt,
14:18
"Oh, what kind of cameras did you use?"
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"Oh, ce fel de camera ai folosit?"
14:20
Or you know, these things.
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Oh stii, aceste lucruri.
14:21
But there's always a few guys, almost always, who are the last ones.
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Dar sunt intotdeauna acei cativa barbati, aprope intotdeauna,cei din urma.
14:26
And I've learned over time that those are always the soldiers.
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Si am invatat cu timpul ca acestia sunt intotdeauna soldatii.
14:30
And they wait until pretty much everybody's gone.
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Asteapta pana toata lumea e plecata.
14:34
And for me, one of the most profound stories someone shared with me,
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Si pentru mine, una din cele mai profunde povesti impartasite cu mine,
14:43
that then became my story, was --
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care apoi a devenit si a mea, a fost --
14:45
for those of you who haven't seen the film, and it's not a spoiler --
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pentru cei care nu ati vazut filmul, si nu este un spoiler --
14:50
it's very common there are a lot of civilian accidents,
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se intampla foarte des sa fie multe accidente civile
14:52
where people get in front of Humvees and they get killed.
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cand oamenii ajung in fata masinilor Humvee si sunt omorati.
14:55
In this film, there is a scene where an Iraqi woman is killed.
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In acest film, este o scena in care o femeie iraqiana este omorata.
15:00
A soldier came up to me and stood, you know really, pretty close,
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Un soldat a venit la mine si a stat, stiti, destul de aproape --
15:07
a foot away from me.
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30 de centrimetri departare de mine.
15:09
He's a big guy.
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Este un tip inalt.
15:11
And he looked at me, and I smiled,
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Si s-a uitat la mine, si eu i-am zambit,
15:13
and then I saw the tears start welling up in his eyes.
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si apoi am vazut lacrimile cum se formau in ochii lui.
15:18
And he wasn't going to blink.
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Si nu avea de gand sa clipeasca.
15:21
And he said, "My gunner was throwing candy."
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Si a spus, "Tunarul meu arunca dulciuri"
15:24
And I knew what he was going to say.
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Si stiam ce avea de gand sa spuna.
15:27
The gunner was throwing candy.
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Tunarul meu arunca dulciuri.
15:30
They used to throw candy to the kids.
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Obisnuiau sa arunce dulciuri copiilor.
15:33
Kids got too close, very often.
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Copii se apropiau prea tare, foarte des,
15:36
And he said, "I killed a child.
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Si a spus, "Am omorat un copil.
15:39
And I'm a father. I have children.
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Si sunt tata. Am copii.
15:43
I haven't been able to tell my wife.
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Nu am fost in stare sa-i spun sotiei mele.
15:45
I'm afraid she's going to think I'm a monster."
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Mi-e frica ca va crede ca sunt un monstru."
15:52
I hugged him, of course,
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L-am imbratisat, bineinteles,
15:54
and I said, you know, "It's going to be OK."
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si am spus, stii, "Va fi bine"
15:56
And he said, "I'm going to bring her to see your film.
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Si a spus, "O voi aduce sa vada filmul tau.
15:59
And then I'm going to tell her."
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Si apoi ii voi spune."
16:05
So when I talk about a disconnect,
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Deci cand vorbesc despre o deconectare,
16:12
it's not only for maybe those people who don't know a soldier,
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nu este poate pentru acei oameni care nu stiu un soldat.
16:15
which there obviously are. You know, these days,
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care cu siguranta exista -- stii, in aceste zile.
16:17
it's not like World War II, where there was a war front and a home front,
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Nu e ca in Al doilea razboi mondial, unde ere un front de razboi si unul de acasa,
16:20
and everybody seemed involved.
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si toata lumea era implicata.
16:22
You can go for days here and not feel like there's a war going on.
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Poti sa traiesti zile si sa nu simti ca si cum este un razboi care se desfasoara.
16:25
And often, I'll hear people say,
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Si des aud oameni spunand,
16:27
who maybe know that I did this film,
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care probabil ca stiu ca am facut acest film,
16:29
and they say, "Oh, you know, I'm against the war, but I support the soldiers."
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si spun, " Oh, stii, sunt impotriva razboiului dar sustin soldatii."
16:36
And I've started to ask them,
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Si am inceput sa-i intreb,
16:39
"Well, that's nice. What are you doing?
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"Pai, asta e dragut -- ce faci?
16:42
Are you volunteering at a VA?
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esti voluntar ca un VA?
16:45
You go and see anybody?
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Te duci si vezi pe oricine?
16:47
Do you, if you find out your neighbor's been, do you spend some time?
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Daca afli ca vecinul tau a fost acolo petreci niste timp cu el?
16:54
Not necessarily ask questions, but see if they want to talk?
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Nu neaparat sa pui intreabari dar sa vezi daca vor sa vorbeasca?
16:58
Do you give money to any of the charities?"
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oferi bani vreunei fundatii?
17:00
You know, obviously, like Dean Kamen's working on that amazing thing,
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Stiti, bineinteles, cum Dean Kermen lucreaza la acel lucru minunat --
17:03
but there's charities where you can sponsor computers for wounded soldiers.
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dar sunt si fundatii unde poti sponsoriza computere pentru soldatii raniti.
17:08
I think, I challenge us to say --
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Cred ca ma provoc sa spunem --
17:13
to operationalize those terms, when we say we support someone, you know?
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sa operationam acei termeni cand spunem ca sustinem pe cineva, stiti?
17:16
Are you a friend to them?
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Esti un prieten pentru ei?
17:18
Do you really care?
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Chiar iti pasa?
17:20
And I would just say it's my hope, and I would ask you guys
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Si as spune ca e speranta mea, si va rog,
17:24
to please, you know, reach out a hand.
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sa intindeti o mana.
17:30
And really do give them a hug.
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Si chiar sa le dati o imbratisare.
17:34
Thank you.
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Multumesc.
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