How reverse mentorship can help create better leaders | The Way We Work, a TED series

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How reverse mentorship can help create better leaders | The Way We Work, a TED series

94,433 views ・ 2020-11-28

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

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Transcriber: TED Translators Admin Reviewer: Ivana Korom
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We've always thought of mentoring
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λ²ˆμ—­: nongrammar Kim κ²€ν† : Young You
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ©˜ν† λ§μ΄ κ΅¬μ„ΈλŒ€κ°€ μ Šμ€ μ„ΈλŒ€μ—κ²Œ
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as the older generation passing down wisdom to the young,
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μ§€ν˜œλ₯Ό μ „λ‹¬ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ 생각해 μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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but there's a huge benefit to flipping that around
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 그것을 뒀집어 μ΄ˆλ³΄μžκ°€ μŠ€μŠΉμ„
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and allowing the novice to teach the master.
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κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λ„둝 해도 큰 이점이 μƒκΉλ‹ˆλ‹€.
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[The Way We Work]
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[μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μΌν•˜λŠ” 방식]
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[λ“œλ‘­λ°•μŠ€ μ§€μ›μœΌλ‘œ μ œμž‘]
ν˜„μž¬ 노동 인ꡬ은 μ΅œλŒ€ 5μ„ΈλŒ€κΉŒμ§€λ„ ν•¨κ»˜ μΌν•˜λ©°
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The workforce currently consists of up to five generations
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and it's becoming more diverse
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μ†Œμˆ˜ μ§‘λ‹¨μ˜ μƒκ°κΉŒμ§€ ν¬ν•¨ν•˜μ—¬ 점점 닀양해지고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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across all spectrums of underrepresented groups.
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But that change is not arriving nearly as fast
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ κ·Έ λ³€ν™”κ°€ μ΅œκ³ κ²½μ˜μ§„κ³Ό μ€‘μ—­μ‹€κΉŒμ§€λŠ”
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in C-suites and in boardrooms.
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빨리 λ„λ‹¬ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Which means there's a growing gap
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즉, κ²½μ˜μ§„κ³Ό 직원듀 μ‚¬μ΄μ˜ 관점과 κ²½ν—˜μ— λŒ€ν•΄μ„œ
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between leaders and their people
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in regards to their perspectives and experiences.
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이해차가 컀지고 μžˆμŒμ„ μ˜λ―Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Our organizations can fall right through that gap
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우리의 쑰직은 μ§„λΆ€ν•œ μ‚¬κ³ λ°©μ‹μ΄λ‚˜
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into the trap of stale thinking, blind spots
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보이지 μ•ŠλŠ” μ‚¬κ°μ§€λŒ€μ— κ°‡ν˜€
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and having policies that could alienate
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λ‚˜μ΄, 인쒅, μ„±λ³„λΏλ§Œ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
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these underrepresented groups,
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μ†Œμˆ˜ 집단을 μ†Œμ™Έμ‹œν‚€κ±°λ‚˜
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not only in regards to age,
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쑰직과 λ‹€λ₯Έ 관점을 λͺ¨λ‘ λ°°μ²™ν•˜λŠ”
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race or gender,
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but all different kinds of viewpoints.
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μ •μ±…μ˜ 함정에 빠질 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Reverse mentoring could be an antidote to that tunnel vision.
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μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ€ κ·Έ 쒁은 μ‹œκ°μ˜ 해결책이 될 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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But making reverse mentoring work,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ΄ μž‘λ™λ˜λŠ” 것은
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isn't as simple as finding a mentor
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λ©˜ν† λ§μ„ μΆ”μ§„ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ κ°„λ‹¨ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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and pressing go.
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κ·Έ λ©˜ν† λ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ°°μš°λŠ” 것에
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You have to be genuinely curious
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about learning from that individual.
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μ§„μ‹¬μœΌλ‘œ 관심이 μžˆμ–΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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And you have to be intentional about the relationship
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그리고 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ κ·Έ 기회λ₯Ό κ°€μΉ˜ 있게 λ§Œλ“€κΈ° μœ„ν•΄
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in order to make it valuable.
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κ³„νšμ μΈ 관계 섀정을 ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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I know this because I was asked
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μ €λŠ” 뢈과 κ²½λ ₯ 1λ…„ 차일 λ•Œ
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just a year into my career at Virgin Atlantic
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버진 μ• ν‹€λžœν‹± CEO인 크레이그 ν¬λ¦¬κ±°μ—κ²Œ
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to be the first ever reverse mentor
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사상 졜초의 μ—­λ©˜ν† κ°€ λ˜μ–΄ 달라고
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to mentor CEO Craig Kreeger.
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μš”μ²­λ°›μ€ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λΌ 잘 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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I'd met Craig a few times
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회의 λ•Œ 크레이그λ₯Ό λ§Œλ‚˜μ„œ λͺ‡ 번 μΈμ‚¬ν•œ 적은 μžˆμ—ˆμ§€λ§Œ
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and presented to him in meetings,
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but this, it was a whole different ball game.
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이것은 μ™„μ „νžˆ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ°¨μ›μ˜ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Craig had revealed that he had no black women
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κ·ΈλŠ” 핡심 κ·Έλ£Ή 내에 흑인 여성이 μ—†λ‹€κ³  λ§ν–ˆμ£ .
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in his inner circle
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버진 μ• ν‹€λžœν‹±μ—μ„œ 더 포용적인 λ¬Έν™”λ₯Ό
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and he was keen to understand my perspective
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on how to build a more inclusive culture at Virgin Atlantic.
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κ΅¬μΆ•ν•˜λŠ” 방법에 λŒ€ν•œ 제 관점을 μ΄ν•΄ν•˜λ €κ³  λ…Έλ ₯ν–ˆμ£ .
뢀담도 μ—†μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
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No pressure.
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Here's what I learned
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효과적인 μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§ 방법에 λŒ€ν•΄ 배운 것을 μ†Œκ°œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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about how to make reverse mentoring work.
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Lesson one, make your match thoughtfully.
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첫째, μ‹ μ€‘νžˆ μƒλŒ€λ°©μ„ κ³ λ₯΄μ„Έμš”.
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Find someone who has a pulse
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 짝을 μ°ΎλŠ” 데 도움을 받을 수 μžˆλ„λ‘
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on the key spokespeople in the organization
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쑰직 λ‚΄μ—μ„œ ν™œκΈ° λ„˜μΉ˜λŠ” μ£Όμš” λŒ€λ³€μΈμ„ μ°ΎμœΌμ„Έμš”.
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to help you make your match.
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This doesn't have to be someone in human resources,
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κΌ­ 인사뢀 λ‹΄λ‹ΉμžμΌ ν•„μš”λŠ” μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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just someone who knows you and your teams well,
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„κ³Ό μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ νŒ€μ„ 잘 μ•„λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λ©΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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because chemistry really matters.
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μ€‘μš”ν•œ 것은 ꢁ합이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
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The VP of people experience chose me
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아이디어λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν•˜λŠ” κ°œλ°©μ„±κ³Ό
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because I was open to sharing my ideas
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리더십 κ°œλ°œμ„ μœ„ν•œ 제 μ—΄μ • λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
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and also my enthusiasm for leadership development.
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인λ ₯κ°œλ°œλΆ€ 뢀사μž₯은 μ €λ₯Ό μ„ νƒν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Also make sure
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λ©˜ν† κ°€ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ 직접 λ³΄κ³ μžκ±°λ‚˜
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that your mentor isn't a direct report or part of your team,
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„ νŒ€μ˜ 일원이 μ•„λ‹ˆλž€ 것을 ν™•μΈν•˜μ„Έμš”.
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because it will be really difficult to elicit honest feedback
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연말에 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ—κ²Œ 평가λ₯Ό λ°›μ•„μ•Ό ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λΌλ©΄
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from someone who you also have to review
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μ •μ§ν•œ ν”Όλ“œλ°±μ„ λŒμ–΄λ‚΄λŠ” 것은 정말 μ–΄λ €μšΈ ν…Œλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
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at the end of the year.
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 금육 뢄야에 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄ λ§ˆμΌ€νŒ… λΆ„μ•Όμ—μ„œ λ§žλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ„ μ°Ύκ³ 
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If you're in finance,
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find someone creative in marketing,
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곡학 뢄야라면 κ³ κ°μ„œλΉ„μŠ€μ—μ„œ μ μž„μžλ₯Ό μ°ΎμœΌμ„Έμš”.
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or if you're in engineering, find someone in customer service.
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이것은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ λ‹€λ₯Έ νŒ€μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° 톡찰λ ₯을 얻을 수 있게 ν•΄μ£Όκ³ 
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This will ensure that you develop perspectives
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from outside of your immediate team
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λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ 관점은 더 λ‚˜μ€ 리더λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“­λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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and different perspectives make better leaders.
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λ‘˜μ§Έ, κ°„λž΅ν•˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“€κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ κΈ°λ³Έ κ·œμΉ™μ„ μ„Έμš°μ„Έμš”.
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Lesson two,
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to make things simple, set some ground rules.
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The first meeting should be offsite in a neutral location.
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첫 번째 νšŒμ˜λŠ” νšŒμ‚¬ λ°– 쀑립적 μœ„μΉ˜μ—μ„œ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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If you're the mentee, you should set the agenda.
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λ©˜ν‹°λΌλ©΄ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 의제λ₯Ό μ„€μ •ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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What is it that you really want to learn?
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μ •λ§λ‘œ 배우고 싢은 것은 λ¬΄μ—‡μž…λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
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Maybe you'd like to understand
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ λ©˜ν† μ˜ κ²½λ ₯ 과정을 μ•Œκ³  싢을 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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your mentor's career journey
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or perhaps whether they've had any major obstacles
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λ˜λŠ” λ©˜ν† κ°€ 극볡해야 ν–ˆμ—ˆλ˜ μ–΄λ–€ 큰 λ‚œκ΄€λ“€μ„
μ•Œκ³  싢을 μˆ˜λ„ 있고
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they've had to overcome,
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or maybe you'd like to understand
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λ˜λŠ” νŠΉμ • νšŒμ‚¬ 정책이 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ
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how specific company policies impact them
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μ§κ°„μ ‘μ μœΌλ‘œ κ·Έλ“€μ—κ²Œ 영ν–₯을 λ―ΈμΉ˜λŠ”μ§€
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either directly or indirectly.
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μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κ³  싢을 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Agree that your conversations together
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μ„œλ‘œ κ°„μ˜ λŒ€ν™”μ˜ 비밀을 보μž₯ν•˜κ³ 
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will be confidential
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and whether there are any topics which are off limits,
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λ…Όμ˜ κΈˆμ§€ λ²”μœ„λ₯Ό λ²—μ–΄λ‚˜μ§€ μ•Šλ„λ‘ ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
개인적인 κ°€μ‘±μ‚¬λ‚˜
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such as family life
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νŠΉμ • κ°œμΈμ— λŒ€ν•œ ν”Όλ“œλ°± λ“± 말이죠.
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or specific feedback on individuals.
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Lesson three, start with an icebreaker.
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μ…‹μ§Έ, κ°€λ²Όμš΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λ‘œ μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
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I like to think of this
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"μ—˜λ¦¬λ² μ΄ν„° ν”ΌμΉ˜" λ°©μ‹μœΌλ‘œ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ 인생 이야기λ₯Ό λ“€λ €μ£Όμ„Έμš”.
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as a long elevator pitch of your life stories.
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Who are you?
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ λˆ„κ΅¬μΈμ§€μš”?
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Poignant moments in your life.
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μΈμƒμ˜ κ°€μŠ΄ μ•„νŒ λ˜ μˆœκ°„μ€?
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What are your hopes and dreams?
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ 희망과 κΏˆμ€ λ¬΄μ—‡μΈμ§€μš”?
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Pivot to seek differences and not similarities
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μœ μ‚¬μ μ΄ μ•„λ‹Œ 차이점을 찾으렀 λ…Έλ ₯ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
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because that's the real power of reverse mentoring.
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그것이 μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ˜ μ§„μ •ν•œ 힘이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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Craig and I found
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ν¬λ ˆμ΄κ·Έμ™€ μ €λŠ” μ‚Άμ—μ„œ 곡톡적인 κ²½ν—˜μ„ λ°œκ²¬ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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that we had formative experiences in common.
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Both of us immigrants,
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λ‘˜ λ‹€ μ΄λ―Όμžμ˜€μœΌλ‚˜
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him a second generation growing up in the US
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κ·ΈλŠ” λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ μžλž€ 2μ„ΈλŒ€μ˜€κ³ 
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and myself first generation
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μ €λŠ” μ„Έ μ‚΄ λ•Œ
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arriving in the UK from Jamaica
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μžλ©”μ΄μΉ΄μ—μ„œ β€‹β€‹μ˜κ΅­μœΌλ‘œ λ„μ°©ν•œ 1μ„ΈλŒ€μ˜€μ£ .
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at the age of three.
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But from there,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ κ·Έ μ΄ν›„λ‘œλŠ” μ„œλ‘œμ˜ 삢이 μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ λ‹¬λžμ£ .
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our stories are quite different.
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λ„·μ§Έ, μ—­ν•  역전을 μ‘°μ‹¬ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.
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Lesson four, beware of role reversion.
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There were a few times in our conversation
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우리 λŒ€ν™”μ—μ„œ ν¬λ ˆμ΄κ·ΈλŠ”
μ €μ—κ²Œ κ²½λ ₯ 쑰언을 ν•΄μ£Όλ©΄μ„œ 주제λ₯Ό λ²—μ–΄λ‚¬μ–΄μš”.
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where Craig slipped into giving me career advice.
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μ €λŠ” μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ 말해야 ν–ˆμ§€μš”.
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And I had to say, "Craig this is really interesting
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"정말 ν₯λ―Έλ‘­κ΅°μš”. 이야기λ₯Ό κΌ­ λ‹€μ‹œ λ“£κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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and I'd love to come back to this later,
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but in our limited time together,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 우리의 μ œν•œλœ μ‹œκ°„ 내에
당신이 λ‚˜ν•œν…Œ λ“£κ³  싢은 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λŠ” μ—†λ‚˜μš”?"
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is there anything else you'd like to understand from me?"
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μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ§ν•˜λŠ” 건 μ–΄λ ΅μ§€λ§Œ
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Now this was quite hard,
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λ©˜ν† λ‘œμ„œ μ•„μ£Ό 짧은 κ·Έ μ‹œκ°„ λ™μ•ˆ
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but you have to remember that as a mentor
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ 톡찰λ ₯을 κ³΅μœ ν•˜λŠ” 것이
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for this very short period of time,
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쑰직에 더 도움이 λœλ‹€λŠ” 것을 κΈ°μ–΅ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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your insights are actually more valuable to the organization.
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Lesson five, make time for reflection.
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λ‹€μ„―μ§Έ, λ°˜μΆ”ν•  μ‹œκ°„μ„ κ°€μ§€μ„Έμš”.
03:36
Agree the key takeaways from each of the sessions,
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면담이 끝날 λ•Œλ‚˜ 후속 이메일을 톡해
03:39
either at the end or through follow-up email
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각 λ©΄λ‹΄μ˜ 핡심 μš”μ μ„ μ„œλ‘œ λ™μ˜ν•˜κ³ 
03:41
and schedule your sessions
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λ°˜μΆ”ν•  μ‹œκ°„μ„ 갖도둝
03:43
to allow time between for reflection.
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λ©΄λ‹΄ 간격을 μ‘°μ ˆν•˜μ„Έμš”.
03:45
We found that three to four weeks provided a great rhythm.
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3~4주의 기간이 ν›Œλ₯­ν•œ 리듬을 μ œκ³΅ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:47
And finally,
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그리고 λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰μœΌλ‘œ
03:49
give credit where credit's due.
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μ‹ λ’°κ°€ ν•„μš”ν•œ 곳에 μ‹ λ’°λ₯Ό μ£Όμ„Έμš”.
03:50
In the traditional mentoring relationship
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전톡적인 λ©˜ν† λ§ κ΄€κ³„μ—μ„œλŠ”
03:53
the mentor isn't expected to be given credit.
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λ©˜ν† κ°€ μ‹ λ’°λ₯Ό λ°›λŠ”λ‹€κ³  κΈ°λŒ€λ˜μ§€λŠ” μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:55
However, in reverse mentoring
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ—μ„œλŠ”
03:57
where the mentee actually holds a lot of the power
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λ©˜ν‹°κ°€ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 더 λ§Žμ€ νž˜μ„ 가지고 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
03:59
accurate credit really counts.
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μ² μ €ν•œ μ‹ λ’°κ°€ λ”μš± μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:02
Forward-thinking organizations
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미래 지ν–₯적인 쑰직은
04:03
use reverse mentoring as one of the tools
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λ”μš± 포용적인 ν™˜κ²½μ„ λ§Œλ“€κΈ° μœ„ν•˜μ—¬
04:05
to help them build a more inclusive environment.
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κ·Έ 도ꡬ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λ‘œ μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ„ μ‚¬μš©ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:08
And studies have shown
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λ˜ν•œ 연ꡬ κ²°κ³Όμ—μ„œλŠ”
04:09
that when organizations embrace reverse mentoring
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쑰직이 μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§μ„ μˆ˜μš©ν•  λ•Œ μ†Œμˆ˜ μ§‘λ‹¨μ˜ ꡬ성원듀이
04:11
members of those underrepresented groups
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κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 관점을 κ³΅μœ ν•˜λŠ”λ°
04:14
feel more confident in sharing their perspectives.
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더 μžμ‹ κ°μ„ λŠλ‚€λ‹€λŠ” κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό λ³΄μ—¬μ£Όμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:17
And when accompanied by a comprehensive diversity
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그리고 포괄적인 λ‹€μ–‘μ„±κ³Ό
04:19
and inclusion strategy,
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ν¬μš©μ „λž΅μ΄ ν•¨κ»˜ μ‚¬μš©λ˜λ©΄
04:20
it leads to higher retention amongst these groups.
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μ†Œμ™Έλœ κ·Έλ£Ήλ“€ μ‚¬μ΄μ—μ„œ 훨씬 잘 μœ μ§€κ°€ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:23
Personally, I found
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개인적으둜 μ œκ°€ 깨달은 것은
04:25
that my reverse mentoring relationship with Craig
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저와 크레이그의 μ—­λ©˜ν† λ§ κ΄€κ³„λŠ”
04:27
enabled me to have a sense of ownership and leadership
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버진 μ• ν‹€λžœν‹±μ—μ„œ 포용적인 λ¬Έν™”λ₯Ό ꡬ좕할 λ•Œ
04:30
in building an inclusive culture at Virgin.
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제게 주인 μ˜μ‹κ³Ό 리더십을 심어 μ£Όμ—ˆλ‹€λŠ” μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:32
And for Craig, it showed
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크레이그 λ˜ν•œ
κ²½λ ₯의 졜고 정점에 μžˆμ„ λ•Œ μ‘°μ°¨
04:34
that even when you're at the pinnacle of your career,
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there's still more you can learn.
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