Michael Moschen: Juggling rhythm and motion

Prevoditelj: Tilen Pigac - EFZG Recezent: Mislav Ante Omazić - EFZG

I started juggling a long time ago,

Počeo sam žonglirati prije mnogo vremena,

but long before that, I was a golfer, and that's what I was, a golfer.

ali puno prije toga bio sam golfer i to je ono što sam bio, golfer.

And as a golfer and as a kid,

I kao golfer i kao dijete

one of the things that really sort of seeped into my pores,

jedna od stvari koja se slila u moje pore,

that I sort of lived my whole life, is process.

koju sam živio cijeli život, je proces.

And it's the process of learning things.

A to je proces učenja stvari.

One of the great things was that my father was an avid golfer, but he was lefty.

Jedna od najvećih stvari je bila kako je moj otac bio strastven golfer, ali bio je ljevoruk.

And he had a real passion for golf,

I imao je pravu strast za golfom

and he also created this whole mythology

i stvorio je tu cijelu mitologiju

about Ben Hogan and various things.

o Benu Hoganu i raznim stvarima.

Well, I learned a lot about interesting things

Dakle, naučio sam mnogo zanimljivih stvari

that I knew nothing about at the time, but grew to know stuff about.

o kojima ništa nisam znao u to vrijeme, već sam odrastao učeći o stvarima.

And that was the mythology of skill.

A to je bila mitologija vještine.

So, one of the things that I love to do is to explore skill.

Dakle, jedna od stvari koje volim raditi je istraživati vještinu.

And since Richard put me on this whole thing with music --

A kako me Richard stavio u cijelu tu stvar s glazbom,

I'm supposed to actually be doing a project with Tod Machover

morao bih raditi zapravo projekt s Todom Machoverom

with the MIT Media Lab -- it relates a lot to music.

s MIT-ovog medijskog laboratorija, koji se bavi glazbom.

But Tod couldn't come and the project is sort of somewhere,

Ali Tod nije moga doći, a projekt je negdje,

I'm not sure whether it's happening the way we thought, or not.

ne znam događa li se onako kako smo zamislili, ili ne.

But I'm going to explore skill, and juggling,

Ali istražit ću vještinu i žongliranje

and basically visual music, I guess.

i vjerujem, vizualnu glazbu.

OK, you can start the music, thanks.

U redu, možete pokrenuti glazbu, hvala.

(Music)

(Glazba)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Thanks. Thank you. Now, juggling can be a lot of fun;

Hvala. Hvala vam. Sada, žongliranje može biti jako zabavno,

play with skill and play with space, play with rhythm.

igra s vještinom i igra s prostorom, igra s ritmom.

And you can turn the mike on now. I'm going to do a couple of pieces.

I možete pojačati mikrofon sada, izvest ću par točaka.

I do a big piece in a triangle

Radim veliku točku u trokutu

and these are three sections from it.

a ovo su tri dijela iz te točke.

Part of the challenge was to try to understand rhythm and space

Dio izazova je bio pokušati shvatiti ritam i prostor

using not just my hands -- because a lot of juggling is hand-oriented --

ne koristeći samo svoje ruke -- jer puno žongliranja je orijentirano na ruke --

but using the rhythm of my body and feet,

već koristeći ritam mog tijela i stopala

and controlling the balls with my feet.

i kontrolirajući lopte s mojim stopalima.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Thanks. Now, this next section was an attempt to explore space.

Hvala. Sada, ovaj dio je bio pokušaj istraživanja prostora.

You see, I think Richard said something about people that are against something.

Vidite, mislim kako je Richard rekao nešto o ljudima koji su protiv nečega.

Well, a lot of people think jugglers defy gravity or do stuff.

Pa, mnogo ljudi misli kako žongleri prkose gravitaciji ili rade stvari.

Well, I kind of, from my childhood and golf and all that,

Pa, ja, još od mog djetinjstva i golfa i svega toga,

it's a process of joining with forces.

to je proces udruživanja sa silama.

And so what I'd like to do is try to figure out

A ono što bih volio učiniti jest pokušati dokučiti

how to join with the space through the technique.

kako se spojiti s prostorom kroz tehniku.

So juggling gravity -- up, down.

Dakle, žongliranje gravitacijom -- gore, dolje.

If you figure out what up and down really are,

Ukoliko dokučite što su zapravo gore i dolje,

it's a complex physical set of skills

dovoljno je kompleksan fizički set vještina

to be able to throw a ball down and up and everything,

bacanja lopte dolje i gore i sve to,

but then you add in sideways.

ali tada još dodate postrance.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Now, I look at it somewhat as a way -- when you learn juggling

Sada, gledam na to nekako kao način -- kada učite žonglirati

what you learn is how to feel with your eyes, and see with your hands

ono što učite jest kako osjećati pomoću svojih očiju i vidjeti pomoću svojih ruku

because you're not looking at your hands,

jer ne gledate u svoje ruke,

you're looking at where the balls are or you're looking at the audience.

gledate gdje se loptice nalaze ili gledate u publiku.

So this next part is really a way of understanding space and rhythm,

Dakle, ovaj idući dio je doista način razumijevanja prostora i ritma

with the obvious reference to the feet,

s očitim naglaskom na stopala.

but it's also time -- where the feet were, where the balls were.

Ali to je ujedno i vrijeme gdje su bila stopala, gdje su bile loptice.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Thanks. So, visual music: rhythm and complexity.

Hvala. Dakle, vizualna glazba, ritam i kompleksnost.

I'm going to build towards complexity now.

Ići ću sada prema kompleksnosti.

Juggling three balls is simple and normal.

Žongliranje s tri loptice je jednostavno i normalno.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Excuse me.

Oprostite.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

We're jugglers, OK. And remember, you're transposing,

Mi smo žongleri, u redu. I zapamtite, vi se prenosite,

you're getting into a subculture here.

ulazite ovdje u subkulturu.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And juggling -- the balls cross and all that.

I žongliranje loptica poprijeko i sve to.

OK, if you keep them in their assigned paths you get parallel lines

U redu, ukoliko ih držite u njihovim dodjeljenim stanjima dobit ćete paralelne linije

of different heights, but then hopefully even rhythm.

različitih visina, ali tada ćete vjerojatno dobiti i ritam.

And you can change the rhythm -- good, Michael.

A možete i promijeniti ritam -- dobar Michael.

You can change the rhythm, if you get out of the lights.

Možete promijeniti ritam ukoliko se maknete sa svijetla.

OK? Change the rhythm, so it's even.

U redu? Promijenite ritam tako da je ravnomjerno.

Or you can go back and change the height. Now, skill.

Ili se možete vratiti natrag i promijeniti visinu. Sada, vještina.

But you're boxed in, if you can only do it up and down that way.

Ali strpani ste u kutiju ukoliko možete samo gore i dolje na taj način.

So, you've got to go after the space down there.

Dakle, morate ići za prostorom tamo dolje.

OK, then you've got to combine them,

U redu, zatim ih morate kombinirati

because then you have the whole spatial palette in front of you.

jer tada imate cijelu prostornu paletu ispred sebe.

And then you get crazy.

I zatim poludite.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Now, I'm actually going to ask you to try something,

Sada, zamoliti ću vas zapravo da pokušate učiniti nešto

so you've got to pay attention. Complexity:

stoga morate obratiti pozornost. Kompleksnost,

if you spend enough time doing something, time slows down

ukoliko provedete dovoljno vremena radeći nešto, vrijeme se uspori

or your skill increases, so your perceptions change.

ili se vaše vještine povećaju pa se stoga i vaše percepcije promijene.

It's learning skills -- like being in a high-speed car crash.

To je učenje vještina poput biti u autmobilskoj nesreći pri velikoj brzini.

Things slow down as you learn, as you learn, as you learn.

Stvari uspore s učenjem, s učenjem, s učenjem.

You may not be able to affect it, it almost drifts on you. It goes.

Možda nećete moći utjecati na to, gotovo se nanese na vas, ode.

But that's the closest approximation I can have to it.

Ali to je najbliža aproksimacija koju imam.

So, complexity. Now, how many here are jugglers?

Dakle, kompleksnost. Sada, koliko vas ovdje su žongleri?

OK, so most of you are going to have a similar reaction to this.

U redu, dakle većina vas će imati sličnu reakciju na ovo.

OK? And whoever laughed there --

U redu? I tkogod da se smijao tamo --

you understood it completely, right?

vi ste u potpunosti to shvatili, točno?

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

No, it looks like a mess. It looks like a mess with a guy there,

Ne, izgleda poput nereda. Izgleda poput nereda s čovjekom tamo

who's got his hands around that mess, OK.

koji ima svoje ruke u tom neredu, u redu.

Well, that's what juggling is about, right?

Pa, to je žongliranje, zar ne?

It's being able to do something that other people can't do or can't understand.

To je mogućnost činiti nešto što drugi ljudi ne mogu učiniti ili ne mogu shvatiti.

All right. So, that's one way of doing it, which is five balls down.

U redu. Dakle, to je jedan način kako to možete učiniti, s pet loptica.

OK? Another way is the outside.

U redu? Drugi način je izvana.

And you could play with the rhythm.

I možete se igrati s ritmom.

Same pattern.

Isti obrazac.

Make it faster and smaller.

Učinite ga bržim i manjim.

Make it wider.

Učinite ga širim.

Make it narrower.

Učinite ga užim.

Bring it back up.

Dovedite ga opet gore.

OK. It's done. Thanks.

U redu. Gotovo je. Hvala.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Now, what I wanted to get to is that you're all very bright, very tactile.

Sada, ono na što sam ciljao je kako ste svi vi jako pametni, jako taktilni.

I have no idea how computer-oriented or three-dimensionally-oriented you are,

Ne znam koliko ste računalno ili trodimenzionalno orijentirani,

but let's try something.

ali pokušajmo nešto.

OK, so since you all don't understand what the five-ball pattern is,

U redu, kako svi vi ne razumijete što je obrazac od pet loptica

I'm going to give you a little clue.

dati ću vam malu indiciju.

Enough of a clue? So, you get the pattern, right? OK.

Dovoljno indicije? Dakle, shvatili ste obrazac, zar ne? U redu.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

You're not getting off that easy. All right?

Nećete se tako lako spasiti. U redu?

Now, do me a favor: follow the ball that I ask you to follow.

Sada, učinite mi uslugu. Slijedite lopticu koju vas zamolim da slijedite.

Green.

Zelena.

Yellow.

Žuta.

Pink.

Roza.

White.

Bijela.

OK, you can do that? Yeah? OK.

U redu, možete to učiniti? Da? U redu.

Now, let's actually learn something.

Sada, hajdemo zapravo nešto zajedno naučiti.

Actually, let me put you in that area of learning, which is very insecure.

Zapravo, dopustite mi da vas stavim u to područje učenja, koje je vrlo nesigurno.

You want to do it? Yeah? OK.

Želite to učiniti? Da? U redu.

Hands out in front of you. Palms up, together.

Stavite ruke ispred sebe. Dlanovi prema gore. Zajedno.

What you're going to learn is this.

Ono što ćete naučiti je ovo.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

OK? So what I want you to do is just listen to me and do it.

U redu? Dakle, ono što želim je da me samo slušate i učinite to.

Index finger, middle finger, ring, little.

Kažiprst, srednji prst, domali prst, mali prst.

Little, ring, middle, index. And then open.

Mali, domali, srednji, kažiprst. I zatim otvorite.

Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.

A little bit faster.

Malo brže.

Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.

Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

All right. A lot of different learning processes going on in here.

U redu. Puno različitog procesa učenja se događa ovdje.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

One learning process that I see is this --

Jedan proces učenja koji vidim je ovaj --

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

OK. Another learning process that I see is this --

U redu. Drugi proces učenja koji vidim je ovaj --

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

OK. So, everybody take a deep breath in, breath out. OK.

U redu. Dakle, svi duboko udahnite, izdahnite. U redu.

Now, one more time, and --

Sada, još jednom i --

finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Open.

prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Otvorite.

Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. OK.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. U redu.

Shake your hands out.

Istresite svoje ruke.

Now, I assume a lot of you spend a lot of time at a computer.

Sada, pretpostavit ću kako puno vas provodi puno vremena za računalom?

OK? So, what you're doing is, you're going la, la, la,

U redu? Dakle, ono što radite je, idete la, la, la,

and you're getting this. OK?

i dobivate ovo. U redu?

So that's exactly what I'm going to ask you to do,

Dakle, to je potpuno jednako onome što ću vas ja tražiti

but in a slightly different way. You're going to combine it.

samo na malo drugačiji način. Kombinirati ćete to.

So what I want you to do is -- fingers.

Dakle, ono što želim da radite su prsti.

I'll tell you what to do with your fingers, same thing.

Reći ću vam što da radite sa svojim prstima, ista stvar.

But I want you to do is also, with your eyes,

Ali želim i da isto tako svojim očima,

is follow the colored ball that I ask you to follow.

pratite obojenu lopticu za koju vam kažem da je pratite.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

OK? Here we go.

U redu? Idemo.

So, we're going to start off looking at the white ball --

Dakle početi ćemo gledajući u bijelu lopticu --

and I'm going to tell you which color,

i reći ću vam koja boja

and I'm also going to tell you to go with your fingers. OK?

i isto ću vam reći da idete sa svojim prstima. U redu?

So white ball and --

Dakle, bijela loptica i --

finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Pink.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Roza.

Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Green.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Zelena.

Finger, finger, finger, finger. Yellow.

Prst, prst, prst, prst. Žuta.

Finger, finger, finger, pink or finger.

Prst, prst, prst, prst, roza ili prst.

Pink, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.

Roza, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.

All right.

U redu.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

How did you do? Well? OK. The reason I wanted you to do this is

Kako ste prošli? Dobro? U redu? Razlog zbog kojega sam želio da to učinite je

because that's actually what most people face throughout their lives,

zato jer je to zapravo ono s čime se većina ljudi suočava tijekom svojih života,

a moment of learning, a moment of challenge.

trenutak učenja, trenutak izazova.

It's a moment that you can't make sense of.

To je trenutak koji nema smisao.

Why the hell should I learn this? OK?

Zašto bih, kvragu, učio to? U redu?

Does it really have anything to do with anything in my life?

Ima li doista ikakve veze s bilo čime u mom životu?

You know, I can't decipher -- is it fun? Is it challenging? Am I supposed to cheat?

Znate, ne mogu dešifrirati -- je li zabavno? Je li izazovno? Očekuje li se od mene da varam?

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

You know, what are you supposed to do?

Znate, što se od vas očekuje da učinite?

You've got somebody up here who is the operative principle

Imate nekoga ovdje gore kojemu je operativno načelo

of doing that for his whole life. OK?

da radi to cijeli svoj život. U redu?

Trying to figure that stuff out. But is it going to get you anywhere?

Pokušati shvatiti te stvari. Ali hoće li vas to odvesti ikamo?

It's just a moment. That's all it is, a moment. OK?

To je samo trenutak. To je sve što jest, trenutak. U redu?

I'm going to change the script for one second. Just let me do this.

Promijenit ću scenarij na sekundu. Dopustite mi da napravim to.

I don't need music for it. Talking about time in a moment.

Ne trebam glazbu za to. Govoriti o vremenu u trenutku.

There's a piece that I recently developed which was all about that,

Postoji djelo koje sam nedavno osmislio a u kojem se radi o tome,

a moment. And what I do as a creative artist

o trenutku. A ono što radim kao kreativni umjetnik

is I develop vocabularies or languages of moving objects.

je da ja razvijam vokabulare ili jezike predmeta koji se kreću.

What I've done for you here, I developed a lot of those tricks

Ono što sam učinio za vas ovdje, osmislio sam mnogo tih trikova

and I put the choreography together,

i sastavio koreografiju,

but they're not original techniques.

ali one nisu originalne tehnike.

Now, I'm going to start showing you some original techniques

Sada, početi ću vam prikazivati neke originalne tehnike

that come from the work that I've developed. OK?

koje proizlaze iz rada koji sam osmislio. U redu?

So, a moment, how would you define a moment?

Dakle, trenutak, kako biste definirali trenutak?

Well, as a juggler, what I wanted to do was create something

Pa, kao žongler želio sam stvoriti nešto

that was representational of a moment.

što je bilo reprezentiralo trenutak.

Ahhh.

Aaargghhh.

All right, I'm going to get on my knees and do it.

U redu, kleknuti ću i učiniti ću to.

So, a moment.

Dakle trenutak.

(Rattling)

(Zveckanje)

OK? And then, what I did as a juggler was say,

U redu? I zatim sam kao žongler rekao

OK, what can I do to make that something

u redu, što mogu napraviti da učinim to nešto

that is dependent on something else, another dynamic.

što ovisi o nečem drugom, još dinamičnijim.

(Rattling)

(Zveckanje)

So, a moment.

Dakle, trenutak.

(Rattling)

(Zveckanje)

Another moment.

Još jedan trenutak.

(Rattling)

(Zveckanje)

Excuse me, still getting there. A moment that travels.

Oprostite, još uvijek idem tamo. Trenutak koji putuje.

(Rattling)

(Zveckanje)

A moment -- no, we'll try that again. It separates, and comes back together.

Trenutak -- ne, pokušati ćemo to ponovno. Razdvaja se i dolazi natrag zajedno.

Time. How can you look at time?

Vrijeme. Kako možete gledati na vrijeme?

And what do you dedicate it to, in exploring a particular thing?

I čemu ga dodjeljujete u istraživanju neke posebne stvari?

Well, obviously, there's something in here,

Pa, očito je kako ima nečeg ovdje unutra,

and you can all have a guess as to what it is.

a svi vi možete pogađati što je to.

There's a mystery. There's a mystery in the moment.

Postoji tajna. Postoji tajna u trenutku.

And it has to settle. And then it's dependent on something else.

I mora se primiriti. I zatim ovisi o nečemu drugom.

And then it comes to rest. Just a little thing about time.

Dokaz -- a zatim dolazi do mirovanja. Sama mala stvar o vremenu.

Now, this has expanded into a much bigger piece,

Sada, ovo se razvilo u puno veće djelo

because I use ramps of different parabolas that I roll the balls on

jer koristim platforme s različitim parabolama na koje kotrljam loptice

while I'm keeping time with this.

dok sam u vremenskom skladu s tim.

But I just thought I'd talk about a moment.

Ali pomislio sam kako bih pričao o trenutku.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

All right. OK. Can we show the video of the triangle?

U redu. OK. Možemo li prikazati video s trokutom?

Are we ready to do that? Yes?

Jesmo li spremni da to učinimo? Da?

This is the piece that I told you about.

Ovo je djelo o kojem sam vam pričao.

It's a much bigger piece that I do exploring the space of a geometric triangle.

To je puno veće djelo koje radim istražujući prostor geometrijskog trokuta.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Thanks. The only thing I'll say about the last session is,

Hvala. Jedina stvar koju ću reći za zadnju sekciju je,

you ever try juggling and driving the car with your knees

pokušavate li ikada žonglirati i voziti auto svojim koljenima

at 120 miles an hour?

pri brzini od 190 kilometara na sat?

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

The only other thing is, it was a real shock.

Jedina druga stvar koja je bila pravi šok,

I always drove motorcycles. And when I bought my first car, it shocked me

ja uvijek vozim motore. A kada sam si kupio prvi auto šokiralo me

that it cost three times more than my parents' house. Interesting.

kako je bio tri puta skuplji od kuće mojih roditelja. Zanimljivo.

Anyway, balance:

Kakogod, ravnoteža --

constant movement to find an approach to stillness.

neprestano kretanje kako bi se pronašao pristup mirnoći.

Cheating.

Varanje.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Balance: making up the rules so you can't cheat,

Ravnoteža -- izmišljanje pravila tako da ne možete varati,

so you learn to approach stillness with different parts of your body.

tako da naučite pristupiti mirnoći s različitim dijelovima svog tijela.

To have a conversation with it. To speak. To listen.

Tako da možete imati razgovor s njom. Pričati. Slušati.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Hup. Now, it's dependent on rhythm,

Hup. Sada, ovisi o ritmu

and keeping a center of balance. When it falls, going underneath.

i održavanju središta ravnoteže kada padne, ode ispod.

So, there's a rhythm to it.

Dakle postoji ritam koji ide k tome.

The rhythm can get much smaller.

Ritam može postati puno manji.

As your skill increases, you learn to find those tinier spaces,

Kako se vaša vještina povećava, naučite pronalaziti te majušne prostore,

those tinier movements. Thanks.

te majušne pokrete. Hvala.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Now, I'm going to show you the beginnings of a piece

Sada, pokazati ću vam početke djela

that is about balance in some ways, and also --

u kojem se na neki način radi o ravnoteži i isto tako --

oh, actually, if you're bored, not here, here's one use for it.

oh, zapravo, ukoliko vam je dosadno, ne ovdje, evo jedne moguće primjene.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

You can go with the "Sticks One" music.

Možete ići sa štapovima jedne glazbe.

(Music)

(Glazba)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Thanks. That has a certain kind of balance to it, which is all about plumb.

Hvala. To ima određenu ravnotežu u kojoj se sve radi o visku.

I apprenticed with a carpenter and learned about plumb, square and level.

Bio sam šegrt kod stolara i naučio o visku, kvadratu i o ravnini.

And they influenced that, and this next piece, which I'll do a little segment of.

I oni su utjecali na to i na ovo sljedeće djelo, čiji ću mali segment izvesti.

"Two Sticks," you can go with it. Thanks.

Dva štapa, možete početi. Hvala.

Which is again exploring space, or the lines in space.

Što je opet istraživanje prostora, ili linija u prostoru.

(Music)

(Glazba)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Working with space and the lines in space in a different way.

Radeći s prostorom i linijama u prostoru na drugačiji način.

Oh, let's see here.

Oh, da vidimo ovdje.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

So, I'll come back to that in a second. But working with one ball,

Dakle, vratiti ću se na to za trenutak. Ali raditi s jednom lopticom,

now, what if you attach something to it, or change it.

sada, što ako zakačite nešto za nju, ili je promijenite.

This is a little thing that I made

Ovo je mala stvar koju sam napravio

because I really like the idea of curves and balls together.

jer mi se doista sviđa ideja krivina i loptica zajedno.

And then creating space and the rhythm of space,

I zatim stvarati prostor i ritam prostora

using the surface of the balls, the surface of the arms.

koristeći površinu loptica, površinu ruku.

Just a little toy. Which leads me to the next thing,

Samo mala igračka. Što me vodi na slijedeću stvar,

which is --

a koja je --

what have I got here? OK. All right.

što imam ovdje? U redu. U redu.

I'm actually leading up to something,

Zapravo vas uvodim u nešto,

the newest thing that I'm working on. This is not it.

najnovija stvar na kojoj radim. To nije to.

This is exploring geometry and the rhythm of shape.

To je istraživanje geometrije i ritma oblika.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Now, what I just did was I worked with the mathematics --

Sada, ono što sam upravo učinio jest da sam radio s matematikom,

the diameter and the circumference.

promjerom i obujmom.

Sometimes these pieces are mathematical, in that way

Nekada su ti dijelovi matematički na taj način

that I look at a shape and say, what about if I use this and this and this.

da pogledam u oblik i kažem, što ako koristim ovo i ovo i ovo.

Sometimes what happens in life affects my choice

Nekada ono što mi se dogodi u životu utječe na moj izbor

of objects that I try to work with.

objekata s kojima pokušavam raditi.

The next piece that I'm going to do -- which is the cylinders piece,

Idući djelo koje ću izvesti, je djelo s cilindrima

if you want to get that up --

ukoliko želite toliko ustati.

it has to do with cylinder seals from about 5,000 years ago,

Ima veze s brtvama cilindara otprije oko 5.000 godina

which were stones with designs that were used to roll over wet clay

koje su bile kamenje s dizajnom koji se upotrebljavao kako bi se prekotrljale preko mokre gline

with all sorts of great designs. I love ceramics and all of that.

sa svim vrstama odličnog dizajna. Volim keramiku i sve to.

It's a combination of that, the beauty of that, the shape,

To je kombinacija toga, ljepota ovoga, oblik

and the stories that were involved in it,

i priče koje su u nju uključene

as well as the fact that they protected the contents.

kao i činjenica kako su štitile sadržaj.

The second influence on this piece came from recycling

Idući utjecaj na to djelo je došao iz recikliranja

and looking into a tin can recycling bin

i gledanja u koš za reciklažu limenki

and seeing all that beautiful emptiness.

i promatranja sve te prekrasne praznoće.

So, if you want to go with the music for cylinders.

Dakle, ukoliko biste bili voljni započeti s glazbom za cilindre.

(Music)

(Glazba)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Talking about geometry and everything,

Pričajući o geometriji i svemu,

if you take the circle and you split it in half --

uzmete li krug i prepolovite ga na dva dijela.

can you run "S-Curve music?"

Možete li pokrenuti glazbu S-krivulje?

I'm going to do just a short version of it.

Izvesti ću samo kratku verziju toga.

Circles split in half and rotated, and mythology.

Krugovi prepolovljeni i rotiraju i mitologija.

(Music)

(Glazba)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Anyway, that piece also has a kinetic sculpture in the middle of it,

Kakogod, ta izvedba ima i kinetičku skulpturu u sredini

and I dance around a small stage so --

i ja plešem oko male pozornice pa --

two minutes, just to end? The latest piece that I'm working on --

dvije minute do kraja? Posljednje djelo na kojem radim --

what I love is that I never know what I'm working on, why I'm working on it.

ono što volim je kako nikada ne znam na čemu radim, zašto radim na tome.

They're not ideas, they're instincts.

To nisu ideje, to su instinkti.

And the latest thing that I'm working on --

A zadnja stvar na kojoj radim --

(Clattering) --

(Klopotanje)

is something really -- I don't know what it is yet.

je doista nešto -- ne znam još što je.

And that's good. I like not to know for as long as possible.

I to je dobro. Volim kada ne znam što je duže moguće.

Well, because then it tells me the truth,

Jer tada mi ono kaže istinu,

instead of me imposing the truth.

umjesto da ja namečem istinu.

And what it is, is working with both positive and negative space

A ono što jest, to je rad i s pozitivnim i negativnim prostorom

but also with these curves.

ali isto tako i s tim krivinama.

And what it involves,

A ono što uključuje

and I don't know if my hands are too beaten up to do it or not,

i ne znam jesu li moje ruke preumorne da to učinim ili ne,

but I'll do a little bit of it.

ali izvesti ću mali dio toga.

It initially started off with me stacking these things,

Inicijalno je započelo kada sam ja skladištio te stvari,

bunches of them, and then playing with the sense of space,

hrpe njih i zatim se igrajući sa smislom prostora,

of filling in the space. And then it started changing,

ispunjavanja prostora. I zatim se počelo mijenjati

and become folding on themselves.

i počelo sklapati na sebe.

And then changing levels.

I zatim mjenjati razine.

Because my attempt is to make visual instruments,

Jer moj pokušaj je napraviti vizualne instrumente,

not to just make -- I'll try one other thing.

ne samo napraviti -- pokušati ću jednu drugu stvar.

For work in three dimensions, with your perceptions of space and time.

Za rad u tri dimenzije, s vašom percepcijom prostora i vremena.

Now, I don't know exactly where it's going,

Sada, ne znam točno gdje to ide

but I've got a bit of effort involved in this thing.

ali uložio sam dosta truda u tu stvar.

And it's going to change as I go through it.

I mijenjati će se kako prolazim kroz to.

But I really like it, it feels right.

Ali doista mi se sviđa, doima se stvarnim.

This may not be the right shape, and -- look at this shape,

Ovo možda nije pravi oblik i gledati ću ovaj oblik

and then I'll show you the first design I ever put to it,

i zatim ću vam pokazati prvi dizajn koji sam stavio u nju

just to see, just to play,

samo da vidite, samo da se igrate,

because I love all different kinds of things to play with.

jer se volim igrati s različitim stvarima.

Let's see here.

Da vidimo ovdje.

To work with the positive and negative in a different way.

Raditi s pozitivnim i negativnim na različit način.

And to change, and to change.

I mijenjati, i mijenjati.

So, I'm off in my new direction with this to explore rhythm and space.

Dakle, odlazim s tim u moj novi smjer kako bih otkrio ritam i prostor.

We'll see what I come up with. Thanks for having me.

Vidjeti ćemo što sam osmislio. Hvala vam što ste me ugostili.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)