Laura Schulz: The surprisingly logical minds of babies

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Mark Twain summed up what I take to be
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one of the fundamental problems of cognitive science
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with a single witticism.
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He said, "There's something fascinating about science.
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One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
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out of such a trifling investment in fact."
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(Laughter)
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Twain meant it as a joke, of course, but he's right:
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There's something fascinating about science.
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From a few bones, we infer the existence of dinosuars.
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From spectral lines, the composition of nebulae.
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From fruit flies,
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the mechanisms of heredity,
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and from reconstructed images of blood flowing through the brain,
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or in my case, from the behavior of very young children,
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we try to say something about the fundamental mechanisms
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of human cognition.
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In particular, in my lab in the Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences at MIT,
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I have spent the past decade trying to understand the mystery
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of how children learn so much from so little so quickly.
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Because, it turns out that the fascinating thing about science
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is also a fascinating thing about children,
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which, to put a gentler spin on Mark Twain,
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is precisely their ability to draw rich, abstract inferences
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rapidly and accurately from sparse, noisy data.
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I'm going to give you just two examples today.
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One is about a problem of generalization,
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and the other is about a problem of causal reasoning.
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And although I'm going to talk about work in my lab,
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this work is inspired by and indebted to a field.
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I'm grateful to mentors, colleagues, and collaborators around the world.
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Let me start with the problem of generalization.
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Generalizing from small samples of data is the bread and butter of science.
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We poll a tiny fraction of the electorate
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and we predict the outcome of national elections.
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We see how a handful of patients responds to treatment in a clinical trial,
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and we bring drugs to a national market.
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But this only works if our sample is randomly drawn from the population.
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If our sample is cherry-picked in some way --
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say, we poll only urban voters,
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or say, in our clinical trials for treatments for heart disease,
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we include only men --
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the results may not generalize to the broader population.
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So scientists care whether evidence is randomly sampled or not,
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but what does that have to do with babies?
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Well, babies have to generalize from small samples of data all the time.
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They see a few rubber ducks and learn that they float,
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or a few balls and learn that they bounce.
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And they develop expectations about ducks and balls
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that they're going to extend to rubber ducks and balls
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for the rest of their lives.
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And the kinds of generalizations babies have to make about ducks and balls
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they have to make about almost everything:
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shoes and ships and sealing wax and cabbages and kings.
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So do babies care whether the tiny bit of evidence they see
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is plausibly representative of a larger population?
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Let's find out.
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I'm going to show you two movies,
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one from each of two conditions of an experiment,
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and because you're going to see just two movies,
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you're going to see just two babies,
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and any two babies differ from each other in innumerable ways.
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But these babies, of course, here stand in for groups of babies,
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and the differences you're going to see
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represent average group differences in babies' behavior across conditions.
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In each movie, you're going to see a baby doing maybe
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just exactly what you might expect a baby to do,
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and we can hardly make babies more magical than they already are.
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But to my mind the magical thing,
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and what I want you to pay attention to,
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is the contrast between these two conditions,
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because the only thing that differs between these two movies
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is the statistical evidence the babies are going to observe.
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We're going to show babies a box of blue and yellow balls,
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and my then-graduate student, now colleague at Stanford, Hyowon Gweon,
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is going to pull three blue balls in a row out of this box,
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and when she pulls those balls out, she's going to squeeze them,
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and the balls are going to squeak.
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And if you're a baby, that's like a TED Talk.
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It doesn't get better than that.
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(Laughter)
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But the important point is it's really easy to pull three blue balls in a row
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out of a box of mostly blue balls.
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You could do that with your eyes closed.
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It's plausibly a random sample from this population.
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And if you can reach into a box at random and pull out things that squeak,
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then maybe everything in the box squeaks.
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So maybe babies should expect those yellow balls to squeak as well.
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Now, those yellow balls have funny sticks on the end,
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so babies could do other things with them if they wanted to.
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They could pound them or whack them.
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But let's see what the baby does.
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(Video) Hyowon Gweon: See this? (Ball squeaks)
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Did you see that? (Ball squeaks)
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Cool.
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See this one?
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(Ball squeaks)
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Wow.
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Laura Schulz: Told you. (Laughs)
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(Video) HG: See this one? (Ball squeaks)
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Hey Clara, this one's for you. You can go ahead and play.
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(Laughter)
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LS: I don't even have to talk, right?
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All right, it's nice that babies will generalize properties
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of blue balls to yellow balls,
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and it's impressive that babies can learn from imitating us,
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but we've known those things about babies for a very long time.
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The really interesting question
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is what happens when we show babies exactly the same thing,
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and we can ensure it's exactly the same because we have a secret compartment
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and we actually pull the balls from there,
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but this time, all we change is the apparent population
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from which that evidence was drawn.
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This time, we're going to show babies three blue balls
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pulled out of a box of mostly yellow balls,
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and guess what?
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You [probably won't] randomly draw three blue balls in a row
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out of a box of mostly yellow balls.
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That is not plausibly randomly sampled evidence.
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That evidence suggests that maybe Hyowon was deliberately sampling the blue balls.
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Maybe there's something special about the blue balls.
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Maybe only the blue balls squeak.
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Let's see what the baby does.
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(Video) HG: See this? (Ball squeaks)
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See this toy? (Ball squeaks)
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Oh, that was cool. See? (Ball squeaks)
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Now this one's for you to play. You can go ahead and play.
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(Fussing) (Laughter)
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LS: So you just saw two 15-month-old babies
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do entirely different things
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based only on the probability of the sample they observed.
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Let me show you the experimental results.
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On the vertical axis, you'll see the percentage of babies
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who squeezed the ball in each condition,
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and as you'll see, babies are much more likely to generalize the evidence
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when it's plausibly representative of the population
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than when the evidence is clearly cherry-picked.
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And this leads to a fun prediction:
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Suppose you pulled just one blue ball out of the mostly yellow box.
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You [probably won't] pull three blue balls in a row at random out of a yellow box,
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but you could randomly sample just one blue ball.
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That's not an improbable sample.
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And if you could reach into a box at random
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and pull out something that squeaks, maybe everything in the box squeaks.
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So even though babies are going to see much less evidence for squeaking,
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and have many fewer actions to imitate
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in this one ball condition than in the condition you just saw,
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we predicted that babies themselves would squeeze more,
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and that's exactly what we found.
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So 15-month-old babies, in this respect, like scientists,
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care whether evidence is randomly sampled or not,
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and they use this to develop expectations about the world:
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what squeaks and what doesn't,
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what to explore and what to ignore.
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Let me show you another example now,
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this time about a problem of causal reasoning.
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And it starts with a problem of confounded evidence
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that all of us have,
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which is that we are part of the world.
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And this might not seem like a problem to you, but like most problems,
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it's only a problem when things go wrong.
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Take this baby, for instance.
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Things are going wrong for him.
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He would like to make this toy go, and he can't.
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I'll show you a few-second clip.
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And there's two possibilities, broadly:
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Maybe he's doing something wrong,
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or maybe there's something wrong with the toy.
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So in this next experiment,
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we're going to give babies just a tiny bit of statistical data
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supporting one hypothesis over the other,
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and we're going to see if babies can use that to make different decisions
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about what to do.
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Here's the setup.
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Hyowon is going to try to make the toy go and succeed.
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I am then going to try twice and fail both times,
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and then Hyowon is going to try again and succeed,
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and this roughly sums up my relationship to my graduate students
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in technology across the board.
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But the important point here is it provides a little bit of evidence
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that the problem isn't with the toy, it's with the person.
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Some people can make this toy go,
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and some can't.
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Now, when the baby gets the toy, he's going to have a choice.
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His mom is right there,
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so he can go ahead and hand off the toy and change the person,
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but there's also going to be another toy at the end of that cloth,
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and he can pull the cloth towards him and change the toy.
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So let's see what the baby does.
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(Video) HG: Two, three. Go! (Music)
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LS: One, two, three, go!
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Arthur, I'm going to try again. One, two, three, go!
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YG: Arthur, let me try again, okay?
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One, two, three, go! (Music)
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Look at that. Remember these toys?
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See these toys? Yeah, I'm going to put this one over here,
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and I'm going to give this one to you.
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You can go ahead and play.
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LS: Okay, Laura, but of course, babies love their mommies.
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Of course babies give toys to their mommies
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when they can't make them work.
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So again, the really important question is what happens when we change
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the statistical data ever so slightly.
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This time, babies are going to see the toy work and fail in exactly the same order,
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but we're changing the distribution of evidence.
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This time, Hyowon is going to succeed once and fail once, and so am I.
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And this suggests it doesn't matter who tries this toy, the toy is broken.
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It doesn't work all the time.
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Again, the baby's going to have a choice.
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Her mom is right next to her, so she can change the person,
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and there's going to be another toy at the end of the cloth.
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Let's watch what she does.
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(Video) HG: Two, three, go! (Music)
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Let me try one more time. One, two, three, go!
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Hmm.
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LS: Let me try, Clara.
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One, two, three, go!
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Hmm, let me try again.
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One, two, three, go! (Music)
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HG: I'm going to put this one over here,
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and I'm going to give this one to you.
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You can go ahead and play.
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(Applause)
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LS: Let me show you the experimental results.
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On the vertical axis, you'll see the distribution
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of children's choices in each condition,
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and you'll see that the distribution of the choices children make
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depends on the evidence they observe.
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So in the second year of life,
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babies can use a tiny bit of statistical data
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to decide between two fundamentally different strategies
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for acting in the world:
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asking for help and exploring.
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I've just shown you two laboratory experiments
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out of literally hundreds in the field that make similar points,
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because the really critical point
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is that children's ability to make rich inferences from sparse data
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underlies all the species-specific cultural learning that we do.
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Children learn about new tools from just a few examples.
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They learn new causal relationships from just a few examples.
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They even learn new words, in this case in American Sign Language.
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I want to close with just two points.
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If you've been following my world, the field of brain and cognitive sciences,
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for the past few years,
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three big ideas will have come to your attention.
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The first is that this is the era of the brain.
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And indeed, there have been staggering discoveries in neuroscience:
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localizing functionally specialized regions of cortex,
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turning mouse brains transparent,
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activating neurons with light.
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A second big idea
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is that this is the era of big data and machine learning,
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and machine learning promises to revolutionize our understanding
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of everything from social networks to epidemiology.
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And maybe, as it tackles problems of scene understanding
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and natural language processing,
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to tell us something about human cognition.
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And the final big idea you'll have heard
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is that maybe it's a good idea we're going to know so much about brains
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and have so much access to big data,
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because left to our own devices,
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humans are fallible, we take shortcuts,
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we err, we make mistakes,
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we're biased, and in innumerable ways,
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we get the world wrong.
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I think these are all important stories,
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and they have a lot to tell us about what it means to be human,
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but I want you to note that today I told you a very different story.
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It's a story about minds and not brains,
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and in particular, it's a story about the kinds of computations
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that uniquely human minds can perform,
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which involve rich, structured knowledge and the ability to learn
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from small amounts of data, the evidence of just a few examples.
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And fundamentally, it's a story about how starting as very small children
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and continuing out all the way to the greatest accomplishments
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of our culture,
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we get the world right.
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Folks, human minds do not only learn from small amounts of data.
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Human minds think of altogether new ideas.
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Human minds generate research and discovery,
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and human minds generate art and literature and poetry and theater,
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and human minds take care of other humans:
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our old, our young, our sick.
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We even heal them.
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In the years to come, we're going to see technological innovations
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beyond anything I can even envision,
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but we are very unlikely
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to see anything even approximating the computational power of a human child
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in my lifetime or in yours.
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If we invest in these most powerful learners and their development,
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in babies and children
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and mothers and fathers
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and caregivers and teachers
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the ways we invest in our other most powerful and elegant forms
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of technology, engineering and design,
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we will not just be dreaming of a better future,
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we will be planning for one.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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Chris Anderson: Laura, thank you. I do actually have a question for you.
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First of all, the research is insane.
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I mean, who would design an experiment like that? (Laughter)
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I've seen that a couple of times,
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and I still don't honestly believe that that can truly be happening,
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but other people have done similar experiments; it checks out.
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The babies really are that genius.
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LS: You know, they look really impressive in our experiments,
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but think about what they look like in real life, right?
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It starts out as a baby.
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Eighteen months later, it's talking to you,
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and babies' first words aren't just things like balls and ducks,
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they're things like "all gone," which refer to disappearance,
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or "uh-oh," which refer to unintentional actions.
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It has to be that powerful.
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It has to be much more powerful than anything I showed you.
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They're figuring out the entire world.
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A four-year-old can talk to you about almost anything.
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(Applause)
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CA: And if I understand you right, the other key point you're making is,
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we've been through these years where there's all this talk
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of how quirky and buggy our minds are,
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that behavioral economics and the whole theories behind that
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that we're not rational agents.
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You're really saying that the bigger story is how extraordinary,
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and there really is genius there that is underappreciated.
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LS: One of my favorite quotes in psychology
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comes from the social psychologist Solomon Asch,
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and he said the fundamental task of psychology is to remove
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the veil of self-evidence from things.
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There are orders of magnitude more decisions you make every day
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that get the world right.
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You know about objects and their properties.
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You know them when they're occluded. You know them in the dark.
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You can walk through rooms.
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You can figure out what other people are thinking. You can talk to them.
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You can navigate space. You know about numbers.
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You know causal relationships. You know about moral reasoning.
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You do this effortlessly, so we don't see it,
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but that is how we get the world right, and it's a remarkable
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and very difficult-to-understand accomplishment.
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CA: I suspect there are people in the audience who have
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this view of accelerating technological power
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who might dispute your statement that never in our lifetimes
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will a computer do what a three-year-old child can do,
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but what's clear is that in any scenario,
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our machines have so much to learn from our toddlers.
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LS: I think so. You'll have some machine learning folks up here.
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I mean, you should never bet against babies or chimpanzees
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or technology as a matter of practice,
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but it's not just a difference in quantity,
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it's a difference in kind.
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We have incredibly powerful computers,
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and they do do amazingly sophisticated things,
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often with very big amounts of data.
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Human minds do, I think, something quite different,
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and I think it's the structured, hierarchical nature of human knowledge
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that remains a real challenge.
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CA: Laura Schulz, wonderful food for thought. Thank you so much.
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LS: Thank you. (Applause)
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