Sarah Jones: One woman, five characters, and a sex lesson from the future

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2015-06-09 ・ TED


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Sarah Jones: One woman, five characters, and a sex lesson from the future

170,011 views ・ 2015-06-09

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This is a play called "Sell/Buy/Date."
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It's my first since "Bridge and Tunnel," which I did on Broadway,
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and this one, I -- thank you --
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I've excerpted it just for you, so here we go.
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Right. Class, let's be absolutely certain
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all electronic devices are switched off before we begin.
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So class, hopefully you'll recognize what you just heard me say as the -- ?
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Very good, the cellular phone announcement.
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Right? This was also known as a mobile phone.
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So you'll remember, people of that era
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would have had an external electronic device, right,
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something like this,
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and they all would have carried one of these around with them,
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and amongst their biggest fears was the sheer mortification
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that one of these might ring at some inopportune moment.
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Right? So a bit of trivia about that era for you.
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(Laughter)
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So the format of today's class is
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I will be presenting multiple BERT modules today
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from that period in history, right,
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so starting circa 2016.
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And remember, this was the very first year of the BERT program.
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So we've got quite a few of these to get through.
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Bear in mind, I will be living into various different bodies,
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different ages,
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also what were then called races, or ethnic groups,
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as you'll remember from Unit 1.
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And -- (Laughter) -- and along the gender continuum,
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I will be living into males as well.
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It was quite binary at that time.
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(Laughter)
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Also, don't forget, we are reading the book module
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for next week's focus on gender.
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Now, I know some of you have requested the book in pill form.
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I know people still believe ingesting it is better for retention,
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but since we are trying to experience what our forebears did, right,
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let's please just consider doing the actual ocular reading, okay?
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And also, how many people have your emotional shunts engaged?
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Right. Please toggle them off. Okay?
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I know it's challenging, but I want you to be able to feel the entire
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natural emo range, all right?
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It is essential to this part of the syllabus.
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Yes, Macy?
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All right. I understand. If you're unwilling to --
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All right, well, we can discuss that after class.
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All right, we will discuss your concerns.
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Just relax. Nobody's died and gone to composting.
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Okay. After class. Okay? After class.
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Let's just get started, okay.
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This first subject identified as a middle-class homemaker.
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Remember, these early modules
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in these people's full identities were protected,
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and this allowed them to speak more freely on our topic,
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which for many of them was taboo.
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Okay honey, now, I'm ready when you are.
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No, sweetheart, I said, I'm ready when you are.
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I'm freezing.
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It's like a meat locker in here in this recording studio.
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I should have brought a shmata.
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All this fancy technology but they can't afford heat.
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What is he saying? I can't hear you!
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I can't hear you through the glass, honey!
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There you are in my ear.
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Oh, you can hear me?
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The whole time.
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Oh, yes, I am a little chilly.
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Yes, oh the cold is for the machines, the new technology. Okay.
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Yes, now remind me again, you're recording not only my voice but my feelings
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and my memories? Right.
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Yes, BERT, yes, I read about it.
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Bio-Empathetic Resonant Technology.
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Right, right, so people will be able to feel my experience
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and my memory? Okay.
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No, right, I'm ready.
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I just thought you were going to give me a test to see how my memory's doing.
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I was going to tell you you're too late, it's already bad news.
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No, no, go ahead, honey.
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Oh, that's the first question?
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What do I think of prostitution?
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Are you soliciting me, young man?
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I've heard of May-December romances, but what are you, about 20 years old?
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Eighteen? Eighteen years.
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I think I have candies in my purse older than 18 years old.
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(Laughter)
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I'm teasing you, sweetheart. No, I'm comfortable with any question.
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Sure. So about the prostitution -- oh, sex worker, sex worker.
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No, just in my day, they called it prostitution, not sex work.
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Oh, because it includes pornography also?
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Okay.
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No, well, I guess when I was a girl,
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we didn't really have a name for that either.
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We would have said dirty magazines, I suppose, or dirty movies.
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Well, it's not like what you have with the Internet.
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No, well, I don't mind sharing.
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My late husband and I, we were a very romantic couple.
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Lots of tenderness, you understand.
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Well, as you get older, you know, at one point I thought my husband
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might be helped by using some of the pills men can take,
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but he wasn't interested in those,
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so I thought, what about maybe watching an adult movie on the Internet?
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Just for inspiration, you understand.
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Well, at the time, neither of us were very good on the computer,
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so usually, if we needed help with the Internet,
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we would just call our children or our grandchildren,
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but obviously, in this case, that wasn't an option,
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so I thought, I'll have a look myself, just to see.
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How difficult could it be?
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You search for certain key words and you look --
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Oh wow is right, young man.
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You can't imagine what I saw.
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Well, first of all, I was just trying to find, you know, couples,
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normal couples making love,
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but this, so many people together at one time.
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You couldn't tell which part belonged to which body.
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How they even got the cameras to capture some of this, I couldn't tell you.
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But the one thing they didn't capture was making love.
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There was lots of making of something,
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but they took the love part right out of it, you know, the fun.
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It was all very extreme, you know?
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Like you would say, with the extreme sports.
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Lots of endurance,
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but never tenderness.
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So anyway, needless to say, that was $19.95 I'll never get back again,
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but it only showed up on the credit card as "entertainment services,"
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so my husband was never the wiser,
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and after all of that,
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well, you could say it turned out
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he didn't need the extra inspiration after all.
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Right, so next subject is a young woman -- (Applause) --
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Next subject, class, is a young woman called Bella,
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a university student interviewed in 2016
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during what was called an Intro to Feminist Porn class
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as part of her major in sex work at a college in the Bay Area.
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(Laughter)
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Yeah, I just want to, like, get a recording of, like,
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you guys recording me,
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like a meta recording, or whatever.
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It's just like this whole experience is just, like, really amazing,
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and I'd like to capture that for, like, Instagram and my Tumblr.
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So, like, hi guys, it's me, Bella,
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and I am, like, being interviewed right now
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for this, like, really amazing Bio-Empathetic Resonance Technology,
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which is, like, basically where they are, like, recording, as you can see
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from these, whatever, like, electrodes,
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the formation of, like, neuropeptides in my hippocampus, or whatever.
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They will later be able to reconstitute these
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as, like, my own actual memory, like actual experiences,
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so other people can, like, actually feel what I'm feeling right now.
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Okay. Okay.
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So, like, hello, BERT person of the future who is experiencing me.
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This is what it feels like to be, like, a college freshman,
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and also the, like, headache that you are experiencing through me
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is the, like, residual effect of the Jell-O shots which I had last night
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at the bi-weekly feminist pole dancing party
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which I cohost on Wednesdays.
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It's called "Don't Get All Pole-emical" -- (Laughter) --
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and it's in Beekman Hall,
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and, what else, like,
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non-Jell-O shots are also available for vegans,
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and, oh, okay, yeah, totally, yeah, we should also focus on your questions also.
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So for your record, I am, like, a sex work studies major
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but minoring in social media
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with a concentration on notable YouTube memes.
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(Laughter)
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Yes, well, of course, like, I consider myself to be, like,
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obviously, like, a feminist.
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I was named for Bella Abzug, who was, like, a famous, like,
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feminist from history,
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and, like, also I feel that it is, like, important to, like, represent women
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who are, like, sex-positive feminists.
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What is sex-negative?
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Well, like, I guess I would ask, like, what do you think
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sex-negative is? (Laughter)
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Yeah, because, like, the terms that we use are, like, so important, because, like,
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we call it sex work because it helps people understand that, like, it's work,
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and, like, you know, just like there are, like, healthcare providers
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and, like, insurance providers,
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like, we think of these workers as, like, sex care providers.
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Yeah, but like, I don't think of myself like, providing direct
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sex care services per se as, like, being a requirement
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for me to be, like, an advocate.
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Like, I support other women's right to choose it voluntarily, like,
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if they enjoy it.
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Yeah, but, like, I see myself going forward
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as more likely, like, protecting sex workers',
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like, legal freedoms and rights.
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Yeah, so, like, basically, I'm planning on becoming a lawyer.
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Right, class. (Laughter) (Applause)
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So these next two modules are also circa 2016.
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One subject is an Irishwoman with a particularly noteworthy
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relationship to this issue,
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but first will be a West Indian woman,
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a self-described escort
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who was recorded at a sex workers' rights rally and parade.
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She was interviewed whilst marching in full carnival headdress
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and very little else.
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All right, you want me to start talking now.
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Yeah, I told you, you can put those wires anywhere you want to
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as long as it don't get in the way.
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Yeah, no, but, tell me again what the name of -- BERT? BERT.
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Yeah, I was telling you, you know, I think I have in all my time
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I have had at least one client with that name, so this won't be the first time
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I had BERT all over me.
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Oh, I'm sorry,
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but you got to get into the spirit of it if you're going to interview me.
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All right? You can say it.
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No justice, no piece! No justice, no piece!
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But you see the sign? You get it? P-I-E-C-E. No justice, no piece of us.
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You understand?
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Right, so that's the part where I was telling you
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is that when I first came to this country, I worked every job I could find.
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I was a nanny; I was a home care attendant for all these different old people,
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and then I said, child, if I have to touch another white man's backside,
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I might as well get paid a lot more money for it than this,
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you understand?
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Pshh, you know how hard it is being a domestic worker?
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Some of these men, they're heavy.
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You have to pick them up and flip them over.
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Now, I let them pick me up and flip me over, you understand?
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Well, you have to have a sense of humor about it, that's what I think.
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No, but see, listen,
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you find me somebody who don't hate some part of their job.
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I mean, there's a lot of things about this job that I hate,
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but the money is not one of them,
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and I will tell you, as long as this is the best possibility
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for me to make real money,
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I am going to be Jamaican-No-Fakin' if that's what they want to call me.
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No, I'm not even from Jamaica. That's how they market me.
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My family is from Trinidad and the Virgin Islands.
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They don't know what I do, but you know what?
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My children, they know that their school fees are paid,
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they have their books and their computer,
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and this way, I know that they have a chance.
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So I'm not going to tell you that what I do, it's easy,
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I'm not going to tell you that I feel -- what's that you said, liberated?
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But I'm going to tell you that I feel paid.
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Right. (Applause)
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Thanks, that's lovely, and just the cup of tea, love,
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and just a splash of the whiskey.
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It's perfect, that's grand. Just a drop more. A splash. Perfect.
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What was your name? Peter? Is that right, so, Peter?
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Right. So that, that is the unique part of it for me,
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right, is that I ended up in both,
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first in the convent, and then in the prostitution after. That's right.
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(Laughter)
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So one woman at the university here in Dublin, she wrote about me.
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She said, Maureen Fitzroy is the living embodiment of the whore-virgin dichotomy.
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Right? (Laughter)
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Doesn't it sound like something you need to go into hospital?
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Well, I've got this terrible dichotomy.
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Doesn't it.
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Right. Well, for me though, it was, as a girl, it started with me dad.
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I mean, half the time, when he spoke to us, it was just a sort of
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tell us we were all useless rotten idiots and we had no morals, that type of thing.
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And I certainly didn't do myself any favors.
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By the time I was 16,
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I had started messing about with this older fella,
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and he wanted it to be our little secret,
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and I did as I was told, didn't I,
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and when that got back to me dad, he had me sent straightaway to the convent.
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Well no, that older fella, he would still come to find me in the convent.
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Yeah, he'd leave me notes
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tucked into the holes in the brick at the back of the charity shop
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so we could meet.
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And he'd tell me how he's leaving his wife,
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and I believed him, until I got pregnant.
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I did, Peter, and I left him a note about it in our special place there,
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and I never did hear from him again.
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No, I gave it up for adoption so it could have a decent life,
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and then they wouldn't let me back into the convent.
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No, my one sister Virginia gave me a fiver for the coach to Dublin,
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and that's how I ended up here.
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Well, surprise, surprise, I fell in love with another fella much older than me,
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and I always say I was just so happy because he didn't drink,
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I married the bastard.
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Well, he didn't drink, but he did have just the wee heroin problem, didn't he,
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and -- That's right, and before I knew it,
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he was the one who turned me on to the prostitution, my own husband.
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He had me supporting the both of us.
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I was 18.
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Well, it wasn't Pretty Woman, I can tell you that.
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That Julia Roberts,
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if she'd ever had to sleep with a man to put a few pounds in her pocket,
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I don't think she'd ever have made that film.
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Well, for your record,
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my opinion of the legalization, I'd say I'm against it.
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I just, I don't care what these young girls say.
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You know, living like that, you're just lost,
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and, you know, I'm 63 years old.
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I'm still trying to find who I am.
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You know, I never was a wife or a nun,
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or a prostitute even, really, not really.
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Nobody ever asked who I wanted to be.
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They just told me,
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and if you legalize it,
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then you're really telling these girls, "Go on and get lost for a living,"
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and a lot of them, they'll do as they're told.
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All right, so four perspectives from four quite -- (Applause) --
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four quite different voices there, right?
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One woman saying sex itself is natural but the sex industry seems to
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mechanize or industrialize it.
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Then the second woman considered sex work to be empowering,
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liberating, and feminist, though she, herself, notably,
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did not seem keen to do it.
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The third woman, who actually was a so-called sex worker
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did not agree that it was liberating but she wanted the right
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to the economic empowerment,
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and then we hear the fourth woman saying not only prostitution itself
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but proscribed roles for women in general
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prevented her from ever finding who she was, right?
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So another fact most people did not know
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was the average age of an at-risk girl being introduced to the sex industry
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was 12 or 13.
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Also consider that the age when all girls in that society
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first became exposed to sexualized images of women
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was quite a bit earlier, right?
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This was a doll called Barbie, right?
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I initially thought she was an educational tool for anorexia prevention --
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(Laughter) --
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but actually she was considered by many
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to be a wholesome symbol of femininity,
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and often young girls began what was called dieting.
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Remember this? This was restricting food intake on purpose
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by the age of six,
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and defining themselves based on attractiveness
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by around that same time. Right?
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Yes?
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Right, Bradley, okay, excellent point.
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So there was a lucrative market in that society in convincing all people
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they had to look a certain way to even have a sex life, right?
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But girls, especially, were expected to be "sexy" while avoiding
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being perceived as "sluts" for being sexual. Right?
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So there's that shame piece we've heard about.
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Yes.
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Valerie, right? Okay, very good.
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Of course, men were having sex as well,
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but you'll remember from the reading,
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what were male sluts called?
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Very good, they were called men.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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So not easy living in a world like that, right?
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Though it was not all bad news either.
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Most women in the early 2000s considered themselves empowered,
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and men generally felt they were also evolved in this area,
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and, in fact, most people would have been aware of issues
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like human trafficking, for example,
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but they would have seen that as quite separate
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from more recreational adult entertainment.
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And so we'll just very briefly, class -- we don't have a lot of time --
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we'll just very briefly hear from a man
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on our topic at this stage.
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So this next subject was interviewed on the night of his bachelor party.
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Dude, can you, all right, can you just keep it down?
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I'm trying to talk to BERT right now.
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Oh, your name's not BERT.
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BERT's the name of the, oh, all right.
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No, no, no, totally, it's totally fine. I'm mostly sober,
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so I just want to be helpful.
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Yeah, and I totally believe in causes, yeah, like, all that stuff.
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(Laughter)
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And actually, I'm wearing Toms right now.
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Yeah, Toms, like, the shoes,
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like, you buy a pair and then a kid in Africa gets clean water.
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Yeah. Totally.
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But what was the question again? Sorry.
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Of course I believe in women's rights. I'm marrying a woman.
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(Laughter)
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No, but I mean, like, just because I'm in a strip club parking lot
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doesn't mean that I'm, like, a sexist or whatever.
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My fiancee is totally amazing, she's totally a strong girl, woman,
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smart woman, like, the whole thing.
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Yeah, she knows I'm here. She's probably at a strip club herself right now,
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like, as a joke, same as me.
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My best man, I told him he could surprise me,
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and he thought this would be hilarious,
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but this is not something.
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Yeah, we all went to B school together.
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Wharton.
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(Laughter)
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Yeah, so, dude, can you guys --
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All right, but it's my bachelor party,
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and I can spend it in the parking lot with Anderson Cooper if I want to.
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All right, I'll see you in there.
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All right, okay, so Anderson,
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so, like, first of all, stripping,
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but then, like, all the other things you're talking about,
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prostitution and all that stuff, that's, like, not the same thing at all.
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You know? Like, you keep calling it the sex industry or whatever,
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but it's like, if the girl wants to be an exotic dancer
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and she's 18, like, that's her right.
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Whoa, whoa, I hear what you're saying, but I just feel like people,
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they just want to make it seem like all dudes are just, like, predators,
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that we would just automatically go to a prostitute, or whatever.
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Even, like, when I pledged, you know, like when I rushed my fraternity.
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My brothers who I'm close to, those guys, they're all like me.
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We're just normal people, but, like, there's this myth that you must
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be that guy who is kind of an asshole, and like, all bros before hos or whatever.
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And actually, like, bros before hos, it doesn't mean like what it sounds like.
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It's actually just like a joking way of saying that you care about your brothers
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and you put them first.
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Yeah, but, you can't blame the media, either.
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I mean, like, if you go watch "Hangover 2,"
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and you think that's an instruction manual
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for your life, like, I don't know what to tell you.
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You know? You don't watch "Bourne Identity"
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and go drive your car over a gondola in Venice. (Laughter)
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Well, yeah, okay, like, if you're a little kid or whatever,
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of course it's different, but --
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Yeah, all right, I remember one thing like that.
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I was at this kid's house one time playing GTA,
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uh, Grand Theft Auto?
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Dude, are you from Canada? (Laughter)
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So, like, whatever, with Grand Theft Auto,
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you're this kid, like, you're this guy walking around or whatever,
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and you can basically, like, the more cops you kill,
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the more points you get, and stuff like that.
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But also, you can find prostitutes
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and obviously you can do sexual stuff with them,
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but you can, like, kill them and take your money back.
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Yeah, this kid, I remember he ran over a couple of them a few times with his car
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and he got all these points.
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We were, like, 10, I think.
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It felt pretty terrible, actually.
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No, I don't think I said anything, I just finished playing and went home.
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All right class, so then there were men who had more than just
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a passing relationship to this issue. (Laughter)
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The next subject described himself as a reformed and remorseful pimp
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turned motivational speaker,
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life coach and therapist,
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but if you want to know more about him, you'll have to come to the entire play.
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Thank you so much, you beautiful TED audience.
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I will see you for "Sell/Buy/Date."
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(Applause)
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