From Aaliyah to Jay-Z: Captured moments in hip-hop history - Jonathan Mannion

从阿利亚到杰斯：抓住嘻哈历史——乔纳森 曼尼恩

翻译人员: Jingfan Zhang 校对人员: Jenny Yang

This is The Notorious B.I.G., 1995,

这是饶舌歌手克里斯托弗·华莱士1995年

the Palladium nightclub, New York City.

在纽约的一家夜店的场景。

What really I want to talk about is

我真正想探讨的是

my dedication, my 100% focus,

我的专注奉献，我百分百的精力，

and finding something that I love,

以及找到我热爱的事业

my passion point.

我的激情．

I fought to be on this stage,

我竭尽全力争取登上舞台，

to be able to stand next to Lil' Kim

从而能够站到莉儿金身边，

and take all these pictures to create

拍摄了所有这些照片

one definitive photo.

并捕捉到了最关键的一刻

A photo that was the most important

这是一张珍贵的照片，

of anything that I took.

比任何我照的照片都要重要．

And I really wanted it for future generations

我真正想给未来的一代人们留下的是

to be able to feel the energy that was in that room,

能够感受到现场的那种能量，

and certaintly you can feel that right there.

当然要在此时此地感受到．

I'm a photographer, this is what I do for a living.

我是一个摄影师，这是我的职业．

I chase these moments,

我抓拍镜时刻，

these fractions of seconds,

这些时间时刻

that will never be the same again.

是不会再变得与原来一样了

You can't take this picture again because I took it,

你不能再拍这张照片了因为我拍下了它，

and he's no longer with us, sadly, rest in peace.

而他也已经去世了，愿他安息．

The definitive portrait of that person, in that moment,

该人物的在那个瞬间的明确写照

is what I strive for every single time out,

是我努力追求的每一个定格

like when you close your eyes

像是你每次闭上你的眼睛

and think of a picture of Jay-Z,

想象一张杰斯的照片．

I want it to be my picture.

我想让那张照片是我拍下的．

So far, so good.

到目前为止一直还不错．

Eight album covers for Jay-Z later,

八张杰斯的专辑封面，

I'm not doing too bad.

我做的都不错．

Aaliyah. Gorgeous and amazing,

美丽迷人的阿利亚

and I really spent proper time with her,

和我共度了一段时光

conversing, having a conversation,

我们交谈，

connecting to her,

交流心中的想法，

which I find is a big part of my work.

这都是我工作的很大一部分。

That connection, to be able to have a conversation,

那种联系，交谈感受，

to say you're doing great,

告诉她你很棒，

to say why I want a certain picture and a certain attitude.

告诉她为什么我想要一组特别的照片和特别的态度在其中。

In this moment, we talked about shooting in the Caribbean,

当时我们谈及了加勒比海的枪击案，

and it's sort of a passion point for me,

而这件事激起了我的热情。

Caribbean culture, Trinidad, Barbados, Jamaica,

加勒比海文化，特立尼达，巴巴多斯，牙买加等等。

and I said, "We should do a photo shoot there

然后我说：“我们应该在那拍一组照片，

because I think it would be incredible."

一定会很棒的！”

And she said, "Yeah, you know, let's do it."

“好，就这么做！”她说。

You know, as we're taking these beautiful pictures,

在我们拍这些照片的同时，

all this is happening,

拍摄的过程中，

I'm continuing to converse with her and really connect.

我还和她一直在交流。

So, she believed in my vision at that moment,

所以说那一刻她相信我的眼光。

you know, even while all the work was happening

就算是在拍摄的时候，

there was a human connection that happened.

我们之间的联系交流都不曾中断。

At the end of the day,

当天结束的时候，

I have people sign Polaroids

我让大家在胶片上签名，

just as kind of a diary for myself.

像是我自己的一个日记。

And she wrote,

而阿利亚写道

"I can't wait for the Caribbean. I'll see you then."

“我都等不及一起到加勒比海了，到时候见！”

(Exhales)

（喘气）

You've got to take a breath. You've got to take a breath.

大家都要喘口气。

She's missed incredibly.

她深深地被怀念。

And I think what the reminder is

而我觉得这提醒了大家

that these moments are really precious,

这些时刻的珍贵，

and you really have to take the time to connect to them,

而我们也需要去和她们交流，

to be part of that process,

成为这个过程的一部分

to make a difference in people's lives in that moment.

在那一刻对他人的生活做出改变。

You never know how you're affected by somebody,

你永远不会知道你会如何被他人影响，

clearly I am, you can see it,

我很明显被他人影响了，你能看出来，

but you never know how you affect that person,

但是你不知道你会怎样影响那个人

how you make that moment a little more important for them.

怎样让那一时刻对他们更加重要。

This is my good friend Drake.

这是我的好朋友德雷克，

I had the opportunity to work with him

我有过和他合作的机会，

for the FADER magazine.

是给FADER杂志的拍摄。

He is a beast and one of my favorites.

他是一头野兽，也是我最喜欢的之一。

He's my friend.

他是我的朋友。

I shot him for three different days,

我给他拍了三次照片，

two in New York, and he had just signed his record deal.

两次是在纽约，他刚刚签下了他的唱片合同，

He said, "What's most important to me

他说：“对我来说最重要的是

is going home to Toronto to celebrate with my family."

回到多伦多和我家人一起庆祝。”

So, we went home. We flew home.

所以说我们回到了他家，

And he said, "I've got to do a pit stop.

然后他说：“我中途需要停一下，

I've got to go see my grandmother in the afternoon,

下午我要去看我的奶奶，

and so you probably don't want to bother with that."

所以你大概不想被这种事打扰。”

I said, "It would be an honor to meet your grandmother."

我说：“见你的奶奶是我的荣幸。“

I asked for what I wanted.

我要求了我想要的。

I asked for access that nobody else had

我要到了这种接近程度任何人没有过的，

because this is what makes a photographer sort of greater,

因为这让一个摄影师更加出色

to have a picture that somebody else doesn't have.

去拍到其他人没有的照片。

We want these unique moments.

我们想要这些独一无二的时刻，

I asked for these moments, right?

我请求了这种时刻，对吧？

And I'm reminded of a story.

我想到了这个故事

He said, "Grandma, I just got millions of dollars.

他说：”奶奶，我刚刚赚了上百万的钱，

I just signed a record deal.

我刚刚签下了一份唱片合同，

I've got millions of dollars

我赚了上百万，

from Cash Money Universal and Young Money."

从Young Money唱片公司。“

And she said, "A million dollars?"

她说：”一百万美元么？“

He said, "No Grandma, millions of dollars. What do you want?"

他回答：”不，是上百万！你想要什么吗？“

And she said, "I want a kiss, and I want a hug."

然后她说：”我想要一个吻，和一个拥抱。“

Again, the reminder of, like, why we do this.

这再一次的提醒我们为什么这么做。

It also revealed for me another layer of Drake as a character,

这也为我揭示了德雷克的另一面，

and how important this guy is,

告诉我他的重要性，

you know, his message.

他传达的信息，

He's not just about the limelight and self-serving.

告诉我们他不只是他人关注的焦点和自私自利的人。

He's connected to these moments

他与这些时刻的联系

as much as I was connected to this moment as a photographer.

和我作为摄影师与这些时刻的联系时一样的。

I know everybody does this everyday,

我知道现在所有人都做这件事，

they ask DMX to get in a pool of blood.

他们都让DMX走进一游泳池的血里。

This was my challenge this day.

这可是我的挑战。

I needed to get him to see my vision.

我需要让他看到我的远见。

I was very clear in what I wanted for

我当时特别明确我想要什么。

"Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood,"

”我的肉体，我的鲜血“

which was his album cover.

这是他的专辑封面。

You know, I envisioned photographs of him in this pool of blood,

我预想了他在这一池子血中的照片，

just making these things happen, you know?

就是想让这件事发生，懂么？

And what was difficult was he didn't see it

但是他不能看到

the same way I saw it, right?

我的远见，不是么？

He walked in, and he had these pants on. Brand new pants.

他走进来的时候穿着全新的裤子，

Everybody feels fresh when they have brand new pants on, right?

因为所有人都感觉到鲜活当穿上新裤子的时候，对吧？

He said, "I'm not getting in that pool of blood."

DMX说：”我不会进那一池子血里的。“

I said, "Oh yes, you're going to get in that pool of blood."

我说：“哦，你要进去。”

You know? And he said,

但他说

"No, my dogs, I'm not getting in that pool of blood."

“不可能，我不会进去的。”

And I said, "My dude, you're going to get in that pool of blood."

然后我坚持：“兄弟，你要进那一池子血里。”

And in a bold statement, using all the psychology knowledge

为了坚持的声明我的观点，利用我

that I had from my schooling at Kenyon College,

在肯尼恩学院学到的所有心理学知识，

I dropped my pants in front of 40 people on a set

我在片场40人面前脱下了我的裤子，

that all were, like, stunned.

所有人都震惊了。

DMX laughed.

DMX笑了，

He said, "Alright, my dude,

说：“好吧兄弟，

put your pants back on, and I'll get in the blood."

把你裤子穿上，我会进那堆血里面。”

One of the most epic photos that we've ever created

这是在嘻哈运动里

in this hip-hop movement.

我们创造的最传奇性的照片之一。

I'm on home soil. I'm in New Orleans.

我在故乡，新奥尔良的时候，

We've got to give love to Lil Wayne.

我们要向李尔·韦恩传递爱。

Lil Wayne is an incredible MC,

李尔·韦恩是一位伟大的MC，

and the biggest point that I want to drive home here

也是我最想回家的原因，

is about the opportunity to create

找到这些机会，

somebody's legacy with them,

去创造这些人的传奇

to take pictures, to see them grow.

为他们拍照，看他们成长，

It was about trust in the moment

在那一刻是关于信任的，

and understanding that you could make a difference,

还有了解你可以创造出不同，

have a communication,

和他们交流，

see somebody elevate and move forward,

看他们提升，前进，

to take a variety of different pictures, you know?

都是通过拍这些不同的照片。

Him in a spacesuit.

这是他在宇航服里面。

He's a Martian, you know, what can I say, you know?

他是火星人，你懂么，我能说什么呢？

But it was about seeing his growth,

但是这实际是在说他的成长，

and having an important role

在这一刻成为关键的角色，

and communication with this guy in the moment.

以及和他的沟通。

DJ Quick once said, "Isn't it incredible

DJ Quick 曾经说过：“这难道不是很棒么，

how you make people see your vision in hip-hop?

让他人在嘻哈音乐中看到你的远见，视野？

The way that people look at hip-hop is through your eyes."

人们通过你的眼睛观察嘻哈音乐？“

I'm really, really proud of what I've created,

我真的特别骄傲，对我的作品，

what I've done, and passionately working

热情的工作，

to make quality work constantly.

经常创作出高质量的作品。

It's not about taking a photo.

这不仅是拍摄了，

For me, it's about giving a photo

对我来说，这是

to people that believe in it so much. Thank you.

将照片传递给相信它的人。谢谢。