Things Native English Speakers Say - British English Podcast

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English Like A Native


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

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Hello and welcome to The English Like a Native Podcast, the listening
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ใ“ใ‚“ใซใกใฏใ€‚
00:04
resource for intermediate to advanced level English learners.
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ไธญ็ดšใ‹ใ‚‰ ไธŠ็ดšใƒฌใƒ™ใƒซใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ๅ‘ใ‘ใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐ ใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใงใ‚ใ‚‹ The English Like a Native Podcast ใธใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚
00:08
My name is Anna.
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ใ‚ใŸใ—ใฎๅๅ‰ใฏใ‚ขใƒณใƒŠใงใ™ใ€‚
00:09
And my name's Nick.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฎๅๅ‰ใฏใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏใงใ™ใ€‚
00:11
And today we are going to be bringing in the New Year with
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠๆ—ฅใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
00:14
Some good old resolutions.
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ๅคใ่‰ฏใๆฑบๆ„ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆๆ–ฐๅนดใ‚’่ฟŽใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
00:19
'New Year, New Me' is a phrase you'll often hear in January.
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ใ€Œๆ–ฐๅนดใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„็งใ€ใฏ 1ๆœˆใซใ‚ˆใ่žใใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใงใ™ใ€‚
00:24
The beginning of a new year is seen by many as an occasion to turn over a
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ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๅนดใฎๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใฏใ€ ๅคšใใฎไบบใซใจใฃใฆๅฟƒๆฉŸไธ€่ปขใ€
00:29
new leaf and start with a clean slate.
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็™ฝ็ด™ใฎ็Šถๆ…‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒˆใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:34
Now, some people decide to give up unhealthy habits, such as drinking
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็พๅœจใ€
00:39
alcohol or eating chocolates every day.
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ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ณใƒผใƒซใ‚’้ฃฒใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šใƒใƒงใ‚ณใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ‚’้ฃŸในใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใชใฉใ€ไธๅฅๅบทใช็ฟ’ๆ…ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆฑบๅฟƒใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:43
Others see the start of the New Year as an occasion to pick up new hobbies.
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ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใ‚’ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„่ถฃๅ‘ณใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:49
Personally, I find myself being a little too optimistic and ambitious at the
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็งๅ€‹ไบบใจใ—ใฆใฏใ€ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๅˆใ‚ ใซๅฐ‘ใ—ๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใ‹ใค้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใซใชใ‚Šใ™ใŽใฆ
00:55
beginning of the New Year, which has led me to set unrealistic milestones.
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ใ€ ้ž็พๅฎŸ็š„ใชใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใ‚’่จญๅฎšใ—ใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใจ
01:00
However, it's still something I do every year.
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ใฏใ„ใˆใ€ไปŠใงใ‚‚ ๆฏŽๅนดใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
01:06
Do you set resolutions, Nick?
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ใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€ๆฑบๆ„ใฏๆฑบใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
01:09
I don't.
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็งใฏใ—ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
01:11
Now there is one year where I did specifically set a New Year's resolution.
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ใ•ใฆใ€็งใŒ ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๆŠฑ่ฒ ใ‚’ๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใซ็ซ‹ใฆใŸๅนดใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
01:17
Go on, I'm intrigued.
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ใ•ใ‚ใ€่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆดฅใ€…ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:19
Tell me.
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01:19
It was when I was finding things very difficult and I
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒ ็‰ฉไบ‹ใ‚’้žๅธธใซๅ›ฐ้›ฃใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ€
01:23
had taken on too many things.
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ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅผ•ใๅ—ใ‘ใ™ใŽใŸใจใใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:26
I was studying outside of work every day.
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ไป•ไบ‹ไปฅๅค–ใงใ‚‚ๆฏŽๆ—ฅๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:31
I was managing a side hustle and I'd taken on a promotion, far too many things.
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็งใฏใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ‰ใƒใƒƒใ‚นใƒซใ‚’็ตŒๅ–ถใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚Šโ€‹โ€‹ใ€ ๆ˜‡้€ฒใ‚’ๅผ•ใๅ—ใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
01:40
I was travelling all over the place and I was really focused on the ideals
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็งใฏใ‚ใกใ“ใกใ‚’ๆ—…ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใ‚ˆใ‚Š
01:45
of a better life rather than living the life that I had at the time.
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ใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„็”Ÿๆดปใฎ็†ๆƒณใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
01:50
Okay, so you were kind of looking ahead and maybe overstretching yourself,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‚ใฎใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’้”ๆˆใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ€ๅ…ˆใ‚’่ฆ‹ๆฎใˆใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’็„ก็†ใซไผธใฐใ—ใ™ใŽใฆใ„ใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
01:56
trying to achieve something more rather than just being grateful for
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02:01
the things that you had at the time.
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ใ€‚
02:03
Yes, that's right.
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02:04
And so I set one specific New Year's resolution, which was to relax a
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ใใ“ใงใ€็งใฏๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใชๆŠฑ่ฒ ใ‚’ใฒใจใค็ซ‹ใฆใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ใƒชใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใ—ใฆ
02:13
little bit, to enjoy what I already had, and be grateful that it was
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ใ€ใ™ใงใซ ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใฟใ€ใใ‚Œใงๅๅˆ†ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—
02:19
enough, and to take a lot off my plate.
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ใ€็šฟใ‹ใ‚‰ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:25
And it was successful.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚ŒใฏๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใชใ‹ใฃใŸ
02:26
And it was very successful because it didn't need very much to do.
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ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
02:29
Actually, I had to do less.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€ใ‚„ใ‚‹ในใใ“ใจใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจๆธ›ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
02:31
Right.
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ๅณใ€‚
02:32
So, when you say, take a lot off your plate, we talk about our plate, don't
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€Œ็šฟใ‹ใ‚‰ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅค–ใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใจใ ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็šฟใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
02:36
we, a lot when talking about our responsibilities, and the amount of
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ ่ฒฌไปปใ‚„
02:40
responsibilities we pile onto our plate.
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็šฟใฎไธŠใซ็ฉใฟ้‡ใชใ‚‹่ฒฌไปปใฎ้‡ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใซใ‚ˆใ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:44
It's a metaphorical plate that we have.
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็งใŸใกใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆฏ”ๅ–ฉ็š„ใชใƒ—ใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚„ใ‚‹
02:46
And if we have a lot of things to do, then we have a lot on our plate.
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ในใใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ ใ€็งใŸใกใซใฏใ‚„ใ‚‹ในใใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
02:50
So, that's something I might say to someone when they
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ
02:52
bring something new to me.
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็งใซไฝ•ใ‹ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใใŸใจใใซใ€็งใฏใใ†่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
02:54
"Anna, would you like to help out with the planning the, the school fair?"
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ใ€Œใ‚ขใƒณใƒŠใ€ ๅญฆๅœ’็ฅญใฎไผ็”ปใ‚’ๆ‰‹ไผใฃใฆใใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸใ€
02:59
I'm like, "I'd love to do that, but I've got a lot on my plate at the moment."
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ใ€Œใœใฒใใ†ใ—ใŸใ„ใ‘ใฉใ€ ไปŠใฏใ‚„ใ‚‹ในใใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ€ใฃใฆๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:04
That means I've got a lot of things going on and too many responsibilities to cope.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใซใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ ๅฏพๅ‡ฆใ™ใ‚‹ใซใฏๅคšใ™ใŽใ‚‹่ฒฌไปปใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:09
So, in your example there, at that time in your life, you had too many
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎไพ‹ใงใฏใ€ ไบบ็”Ÿใฎใใฎๆ™‚ๆœŸใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ‚„ใ‚‹ในใใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ™ใŽ
03:14
things to do, too much responsibility.
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ใ€่ฒฌไปปใŒๅคšใ™ใŽใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
03:16
So, you wanted to take some things off your plate.
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็šฟใ‹ใ‚‰ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใใŸใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
03:20
Yeah, it's a lovely metaphor, isn't it?
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€็ด ๆ•ตใชๆฏ”ๅ–ฉใงใ™ใญใ€‚
03:22
Because if you sit at the table and you've got all the food on
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใƒ†ใƒผใƒ–ใƒซใซๅบงใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€็šฟ ใซ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใŒใ™ในใฆๆƒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใซใ€
03:26
your plate and someone says,
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒ
03:27
"Do you want some more parsnips at Christmas?"
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ใ€Œ ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒžใ‚นใซใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒƒใƒ—ใŒๆฌฒใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
03:29
And you say,
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€
03:30
"No, that's fine.
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ใ€Œใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅคงไธˆๅคซใงใ™ใ€‚
03:31
I have a lot on my plate."
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็งใซใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:33
You're, you know, you're saying I've got enough to try and consume as it is.
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ๅ›ใฏใ€ ใ“ใฎใพใพๆถˆ่ฒปใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใฎใซๅๅˆ†ใช้‡ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใญใ€‚
03:38
And if I have any more, it's going to feel sick.
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ใ“ใ‚ŒไปฅไธŠใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใŒๆ‚ชใใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใฉใ†ใซใ‚‚ใชใ‚‰
03:41
I'm not going to be able to manage it.
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ใชใใชใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚
03:42
And actually I won't be able to consume the things that you're giving me.
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ใใ—ใฆๅฎŸ้š›ใ€็งใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็งใซไธŽใˆใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆถˆ่ฒปใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
03:47
It's just too much.
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅคšใ™ใŽใพใ™ใ€‚
03:48
That reminds me of a lovely phrase, which is completely unrelated, but
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ใใ“ใงใ€็ด ๆ•ตใชใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใพใฃใŸใ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
03:51
I'm going to throw it in there, which is when you put too much on your
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ใใ“ใซๆŠ•ใ’ใฆใŠใใพใ™ใ€‚ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ€็šฟ ใซใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’็››ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใŸใจใใ€ๆฌกใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
03:54
plate, literally, and you could say,
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่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
03:56
"Oh my goodness, me, your eyes are bigger than your belly."
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็›ฎใฏ ใŠ่…นใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคงใใ„ใ‚ˆใ€‚ใ€
04:01
You think that you're going to eat all that, but you can't possibly eat all that.
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ๅ…จ้ƒจ้ฃŸในใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ ใ€ๅ…จ้ƒจใฏ้ฃŸในใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
04:04
Your eyes are bigger than your belly.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ็›ฎใฏใŠ่…นใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๅคงใใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:07
But enough about food enough about bellies.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅๅˆ†ใงใ™ใ€ ่…นใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๅๅˆ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็šฟใฎ
04:10
Tell us, your ambition to reduce the amount of things on
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ไธŠใฎ็‰ฉใฎ้‡ใ‚’ๆธ›ใ‚‰ใ™ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้‡Žๅฟƒใฏ
04:14
your plate, was it successful?
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ๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ‹?
04:16
Yes, it was.
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04:16
I mean, there's a lot in New Year's resolutions around, you know,
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ใใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎ ๆŠฑ่ฒ ใซใฏใ€
04:22
being grateful for things, right?
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็‰ฉไบ‹ใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
04:24
And thinking about how you can live a better life.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐ ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ไบบ็”Ÿใ‚’้€ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใพใ™ใ€‚
04:28
And for me, you know, I think this is why it was successful is I stopped
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ ๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใŸ็†็”ฑใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:33
the formal qualifications I was doing.
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็งใŒๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸๆญฃๅผใช่ณ‡ๆ ผๅ–ๅพ—ใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
04:36
I stopped the side hustle I focused on my main job and being successful there, and
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็งใฏๅ‰ฏๆฅญใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใฆใ€ ๆœฌๆฅญใจใใ“ใงใฎๆˆๅŠŸใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใ€
04:42
I focused on enjoying the things I had and giving myself time to do those things.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใฟใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใซๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๅ‰ฒใใ“ใจใซ้›†ไธญใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:48
So, a lot of people when they have a New Year's resolution, they add
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ๅคšใใฎไบบใฏ ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๆŠฑ่ฒ ใ‚’็ซ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใจใใ€
04:53
more things to their plates, right?
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็šฟใซใ•ใ‚‰ใซๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๅŠ ใˆใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
04:55
So, how's that looked for you in the past?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€้ŽๅŽปใซใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ‹๏ผŸ
04:59
Yeah, I've often started new projects at the New Year point.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€็งใฏ ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๆ™‚็‚นใงๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ธใ‚งใ‚ฏใƒˆใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ˆใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
05:04
I always think,
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็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ€
05:05
"Oh yes, this would be a great time to start posting every day on one
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05:11
of my many social medias and, I'm going to start a new business."
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ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใฎใฉใ‚Œใ‹ใซๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆŠ•็จฟใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใ€ ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใฎใซๆœ€้ฉใชๆ™‚ๆœŸใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:15
So, I'm always very ambitious in that respect and...
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏใใฎ็‚นใซใŠใ„ใฆๅธธใซ้žๅธธใซ้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
05:18
It doesn't surprise me.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใซใจใฃใฆ้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
05:20
It hasn't worked very well for many people resolutions tend to fail within a few
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ๅคšใใฎไบบใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šใ†ใพใๆฉŸ่ƒฝใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ่งฃๆฑบ็ญ–ใฏใ€ใ‚„ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใ€ใ‚„ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใฎใŸใ‚ใ€้–‹ๅง‹ใ—ใฆใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ•ฐใ‹ๆœˆไปฅๅ†…ใซๅคฑๆ•—ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
05:26
months of starting them because they're overreaching, they are doing too much.
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05:31
But resolutions can still be quite successful if you do it
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05:36
in the right way, like you said.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใง่งฃๆฑบใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€่งฃๆฑบใฏใ‹ใชใ‚ŠๆˆๅŠŸใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
05:38
But let's now turn to some vocabulary that you could use to talk about
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ“ใ“ใงใ€
05:42
resolutions and starting afresh.
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ๆฑบๆ„ใจๆ–ฐใŸใชใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใงใใ‚‹ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่ชžๅฝ™ใซ็›ฎใ‚’ๅ‘ใ‘ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
05:45
So, starting afresh would be one phrase that you could use,
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ€Œๆ–ฐใŸใซๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€ใฏใ€็™ฝ็ด™ใฎ็Šถๆ…‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่กจใ™ 1 ใคใฎ่กจ็พใงใ™
05:49
or to start with a clean slate.
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05:52
Let's dig into that.
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆๆŽ˜ใ‚Šไธ‹ใ’ใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
05:53
What is a slate?
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ใ‚นใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใจใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
05:55
So a slate, slate is a stone and, um...
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚นใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใ€ใ‚นใƒฌใƒผใƒˆใฏ็Ÿณใงใ€ใˆใˆใจ...
05:59
We put it on our roofs, don't we?
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็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฑ‹ๆ นใซ็ฝฎใใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
06:01
Yeah, we put it on our roofs.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ๅฑ‹ๆ นใฎไธŠใซ็ฝฎใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:02
We use it for laying a patio.
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ใ†ใกใฏใƒ†ใƒฉใ‚นใฎๆ•ท่จญใซไฝฟใฃใฆใพใ™ใ€‚
06:04
So, having a nice stone patio to enjoy.
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็ด ๆ•ตใช็Ÿณ้€ ใ‚Šใฎใƒ‘ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚ชใ‚’ใŠๆฅฝใ—ใฟใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๆ˜”ใฏ็ตตใ‚’ๆใใชใฉ
06:08
I think that slate was also used for things like painting in the past.
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ใซใ‚‚ไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
06:13
You'd have a painter's slate, and for holding other things.
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็”ปๅฎถใฎ็Ÿณๆฟ ใ‚„ใ€ใใฎไป–ใฎ็‰ฉใ‚’ไฟๆŒใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใ‚‚ใฎใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
06:17
And for writing in the classroom.
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ใใ—ใฆๆ•™ๅฎคใงใฎไฝœๆ–‡ใซใ‚‚ใ€‚
06:18
Before paper was a thing, chalk, people would teach children with a slate; a
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็ด™ใ‚„ใƒใƒงใƒผใ‚ฏใŒ็™ปๅ ดใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‰ใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใซ็Ÿณๆฟใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆๆ•™ใˆใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:26
piece of slate and chalk and that's how they would write they'd write on slate.
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็Ÿณๆฟใจใƒใƒงใƒผใ‚ฏใงใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็Ÿณๆฟใซๆ›ธใใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ–‡ๅญ—ใ‚’ๆ›ธใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
06:30
And then they could wipe the slate clean When they wanted to start again,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ๅบฆๅง‹ใ‚ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใจใใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
06:35
and so that's where I'm assuming, I haven't actually researched this, but
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06:38
I'm assuming that's where the phrase comes from to wipe the slate clean.
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็™ฝ็ด™ใ‚’ใใ‚Œใ„ใซๆ‹ญใใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒๆŽจๆธฌใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฟในใŸใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒ็™ฝ็ด™ใ‚’ใใ‚Œใ„ใซๆ‹ญใใจใ„ใ†ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใฎ็”ฑๆฅใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆŽจๆธฌใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:41
It means to start again.
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06:43
Yeah, and once they got past slate and started using paper then
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06:48
you would have 'a clean sheet'.
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06:50
'A clean sheet', yeah, a clean...
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06:51
yeah, not the sheets on your bed!
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06:53
Although, it's good to have clean sheets every now and again.
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06:57
Okay, so you can start with a clean slate.
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06:59
So, to make a fresh start forgetting about any past mistakes or you could...
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07:05
Turn over a new leaf.
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07:06
Yes.
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07:07
And I think both of these refer to a little bit like my situation, right?
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07:13
I gave that example of, that things were a bit of a mess, you know, if
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07:19
you're trying to write a story on your slate with your chalk and your teacher
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07:24
comes over and they go, look, I know you've got the right essentials here,
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07:29
but let's start again, let's clean the slate, turn over a new leaf, right?
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07:35
And then you've got a nice blank piece of paper to start articulating
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07:40
your new life story in a really clear and intentional way.
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07:44
But when we say turn over a new leaf, do we actually mean like the
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07:47
leaf that would come off a tree?
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07:50
No, I don't know where it comes from, actually.
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07:52
Well, I think a leaf is another way of referring to a page in a book.
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07:57
Yeah.
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07:57
So, from my point of view, or in my opinion, it would be, I
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08:02
should research this, shouldn't I?
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08:03
You should, yes!
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08:05
To turn over a new leaf is to turn over a new page in a book, metaphorically.
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08:09
And so in life, if you have been doing something that hasn't been working out for
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08:14
you, or perhaps you have unhealthy habits, perhaps you're addicted to junk food
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08:20
and sugar, I've certainly been a sugar addict in the past, and you're deciding,
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08:25
"No, I want to live a healthier lifestyle next year.
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08:28
So, now, or from now on, and so now I'm going to turn over a new leaf.
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08:33
I'm going to start afresh, change things and do things differently."
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08:37
When talking about bad habits, we can use the phrasal verb to give up.
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08:43
So, to give something up, this is a very common phrase, isn't it?
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08:46
It's to stop doing something that has been very prominent in your life.
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08:53
So, have you given up anything recently, Nick?
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08:58
I'm a bit of a goody two shoes, actually.
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09:00
Oh, are you?
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09:02
And, I think for me, now we've gone through a bit of a
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09:07
journey on food, haven't we?
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09:10
We have.
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09:10
And I think I've gone through a slow, and I would say yet to be fully
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใฏใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ณใƒผใƒซใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใซ ๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚Šใ€ใพใ ๅฎŒๅ…จใซใฏ
09:17
successful giving up of alcohol.
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09:21
Okay.
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09:22
Because, and I don't think I'll ever fully give it up because I like a
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09:25
little tipple every now and again.
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09:27
Yeah.
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09:28
So you're, you understand that for you, alcohol shouldn't be
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09:32
a major feature in your life.
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09:34
You want to give it up, but you struggle to give it up completely.
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09:40
Yes, and now I think some people have, particularly when it's linked
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09:44
to either their social life or their work life, they have alcohol
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09:51
as a habitual part of their week.
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09:54
Yeah.
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09:55
It's very hard socially or if your bosses are like,
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09:59
"Hey, come to the pub after work.
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10:00
Or let's go to a restaurant.
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10:02
I'm going to buy a nice bottle of wine for everyone to thank the
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10:06
team for all their hard work."
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10:08
And then they go to pour a glass for you and you say,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ‚ฐใƒฉใ‚นใ‚’ๆณจใŽใซ่กŒใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ
10:10
"Oh no thank you I don't drink anymore."
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ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†้ฃฒใพใชใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:12
It can feel a bit awkward can't it?
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅฐ‘ใ—ๅŽ„ไป‹ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใญ๏ผŸ ้ฃฒ้…’ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใฏ
10:14
There's that kind of social expectation of partaking in in consuming alcohol
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10:20
and it can be difficult to say,
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10:22
"No, I don't do that anymore."
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10:23
Yeah especially in advance when someone says,
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10:26
"Okay, we're all going to go out for a night out on the 21st"
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10:30
Or whenever, right?
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10:32
"Do you want to come?"
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10:33
And you think,
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10:34
"Oh, God, I'd like to go and socialise.
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10:37
I'd like to spend some time."
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10:38
To be honest, I'd like to go and have fun with people in my team.
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10:42
But I think I've certainly matured out of drinking a lot of alcohol.
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใŠ้…’ใ‚’ใŸใใ•ใ‚“้ฃฒใ‚€ใ“ใจใง็ขบๅฎŸใซๆˆ้•ทใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
10:48
I'm so conscious of the consequences to your immediate
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็งใฏ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅฝ“้ขใฎ
10:52
life and the future life as well.
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็”Ÿๆดปใจๅฐ†ๆฅใฎ็”Ÿๆดปใธใฎๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’้žๅธธใซๆ„่ญ˜ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:53
You're talking about hangovers.
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10:54
Hangovers!
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10:55
It's not just hangovers though, it's also being woken up at 6.30 by children if
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ไบŒๆ—ฅ้…”ใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€ๅˆๅ‰2ๆ™‚ใซๅˆฐ็€ใ™ใ‚‹ ใจใ€ๅญไพ›ใŸใกใซ6ๆ™‚ๅŠใซ่ตทใ“ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
11:00
you get in at two o'clock in the morning.
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11:01
Yeah, that can be quite devastating.
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11:03
After having a skinful.
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ใ‚นใ‚ญใƒณใƒ•ใƒซใ‚’ใ—ใŸๅพŒใ€‚
11:05
Yes, absolutely.
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11:07
Okay, so, give up as a common phrasal verb.
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ใ•ใฆใ€ ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชๅฅๅ‹•่ฉžใจใ—ใฆใฏใ‚ใใ‚‰ใ‚ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
11:10
Another phrasal verb I'd like to introduce is to pick up.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใค ็ดนไป‹ใ—ใŸใ„ๅฅๅ‹•่ฉžใฏใ€Œๆ‹พใ†ใ€ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:14
So, this is the opposite of giving up.
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ่ซฆใ‚ใฎๅๅฏพใงใ™ใ€‚
11:17
If you pick something up, then we're talking about starting or
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11:21
taking on a new habit or skill.
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11:24
So, I once bought you a guitar for Christmas because I was hopeful
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€็งใฏใ‹ใคใฆใ‚ใชใŸใซใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒžใ‚นใซใ‚ฎใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚’่ฒทใฃใฆใ‚ใ’ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ๆฏ”ๅ–ฉ็š„ใซใ‚‚ใ€
11:29
that you might pick up the guitar, both literally and metaphorically,
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11:33
pick up the skill of playing guitar.
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ใ‚ฎใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚’ๅผพใใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใ‚’่บซใซใคใ‘ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:37
But I don't think you've picked it up once, have you?
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ไธ€ๅบฆใ‚‚ๆ‰‹ใซๅ–ใฃใŸใ“ใจใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ ๏ผŸ
11:40
You didn't pick up the skill, certainly.
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11:41
First day, picked up a few new apps on my phone, that's for sure.
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ๅˆๆ—ฅใ€ ็งใฎๆบๅธฏ้›ป่ฉฑใซใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็ขบใ‹ใงใ™ใ€‚
11:45
Yeah, but I think, Anna, this is interesting, right?
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ใˆใˆใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ขใƒณใƒŠใ€ ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใญ?
11:47
Because starting New Year's resolutions, often people think about stopping habits,
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ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๆŠฑ่ฒ ใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ ๅคšใใฎไบบใฏ็ฟ’ๆ…ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่€ƒใˆใพใ™
11:53
but maybe a more aspirational thing to do is to start better habits, right?
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11:58
You can start good habits as well as end bad habits.
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12:02
So, maybe swapping, spending three hours in front of the television in the
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12:07
evening swapping half of one of those hours to spend time doing something
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ใใฎใ†ใกใฎ 1 ๆ™‚้–“ใฎๅŠๅˆ†ใ‚’
12:13
like learning the guitar would be a more useful way to spend your time.
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12:20
Yes.
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12:20
Yeah.
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12:21
When was the last time you picked up a new habit or picked up a new skill?
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12:25
Picked up a new skill.
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12:27
That's interesting.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใ€‚
12:28
Well, I've been learning woodwork over the last few years.
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12:30
You have, and you're actually fantastic with woodwork.
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12:34
I think I was a bit unfair when you first showed an interest in carpentry because,
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12:40
well, you wanted to do things around the house and I was quite happy for you to put
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12:44
up a few shelves, but I was a bit nervous when you talked about, you know, building
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12:47
full units and, and making cupboards.
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ใƒฆใƒ‹ใƒƒใƒˆๅ…จไฝ“ใ‚’็ต„ใฟ็ซ‹ใฆใŸใ‚Šใ€้ฃŸๅ™จๆฃšใ‚’ไฝœใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใ€‚
12:50
And I thought,
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"Oh, this is just going to end up being an expensive hobby and a bit of a mess."
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ใใ—ใฆใ€
ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็ตๅฑ€ใŠ้‡‘ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ—ใ€ ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ้ขๅ€’ใช่ถฃๅ‘ณใซใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใ†ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
12:55
But actually, I underestimated you and you've done some amazing
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ใงใ‚‚ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’้Žๅฐ่ฉ•ไพกใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๅฎถใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใงใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ‚Œ
12:59
things around the house and the house looks so much better for it.
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13:03
Apart from the holes in the wall that still need completing.
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13:07
But you have, that's a really useful skill to pick up actually.
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13:10
And a great cost saver, right?
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13:12
And I tell you what, I could start hiring you out to the
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13:14
local community, as a carpenter.
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ๅคงๅทฅใจใ—ใฆๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใซ้›‡็”จใงใใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:17
That could also be quite useful.
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13:19
Some other words that we might use when talking about New Year
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13:24
and New Year's resolutions.
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13:26
Well, I think if you're giving up a habit, then you know, you might not use
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€็ฟ’ๆ…ฃใ‚’ใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใฏ ไฝฟใ‚ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
13:32
these words, but certainly if you're starting a habit, then you might be
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็ขบใ‹ใซ ็ฟ’ๆ…ฃใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไบบ็”Ÿใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ
13:36
optimistic or ambitious about what it might do to your life in the future.
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13:41
What does it mean to be optimistic?
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13:43
So, optimistic means to have a positive outlook about the future, to think really
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใจใฏใ€ ๅฐ†ๆฅใซใคใ„ใฆๅ‰ๅ‘ใใช่ฆ‹้€šใ—ใ‚’ๆŒใคใ“ใจใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰
13:49
positively about the changes it's going to make or how successful you might be.
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่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ๅค‰ๅŒ– ใ‚„่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใฉใ‚ŒใปใฉๆˆๅŠŸใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ้žๅธธใซๅ‰ๅ‘ใใซ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
13:55
So, if I were to start a podcast like this one, if I were to start a podcast and it's
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14:02
something completely new, I've never done it before, but I feel quite positive about
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14:08
my chances of success, then I'm quite optimistic about the the podcast, right?
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใซใคใ„ใฆใฏๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
14:13
Yes.
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14:13
And if you thought that it was going to make you the most successful, or
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ ใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆˆๅŠŸใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ ใ‚ใ†ใจ่€ƒใˆใŸใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ
14:17
your ambition with the podcast would be to be the most successful English
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใฎใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้‡Žๆœ›ใŒไธ–็•Œใง ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใŸ่‹ฑ่ชžๆ•™ๅธซใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใชใ‚‰ใ€
14:21
teacher in the world, then you would say that you're also ambitious.
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14:25
Okay.
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14:25
So, to be ambitious is to have strong ambitions, to have strong
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใจใฏใ€ ๅผทใ„้‡Žๅฟƒใ‚’ๆŒใคใ“ใจใ€
14:30
desires to achieve something.
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14:32
And you could refer to someone as being overly ambitious or too ambitious if
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ใพใŸใ€ใใฎไบบใฎ็›ฎๆจ™ใŒ ้žๅธธใซ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ€ใพใŸใฏ
14:37
you think that their goals are quite difficult or unlikely to be achieved.
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้”ๆˆใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒไฝŽใ„ใจๆ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใฎไบบใ‚’ใ€Œ้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏใ€Œ้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใ€ใจๅ‘ผใถใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
14:43
But it's good to be ambitious because that makes you work a little
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14:46
harder for the things that you want.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆœ›ใ‚€ใ“ใจใซๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใฆๅฐ‘ใ—้ ‘ๅผตใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
14:48
Yeah, and I think they're interesting words to talk about at the same time
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14:52
because optimism is more about positivity of good things happening and ambition
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ๆฅฝ่ฆณไธป็พฉใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๅ‰ๅ‘ใใชๆฐ—ๆŒใกใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใ€้‡Žๅฟƒใฏ
14:59
is more about success and that the goals that you set for yourselves are high,
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15:08
lofty ambitions and that you're going to get a lot back out of it, right?
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15:12
Yeah, so if you are optimistic, then you are positive about your chances.
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15:17
If you're ambitious, then you have a strong desire to achieve those things.
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15:22
Yeah, and be successful.
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15:22
Because you can be optimistic and not actually work very
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใซใชใ‚Šใ€ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏ
15:25
hard to achieve your goals.
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15:26
You're just like, I would call that kind of person a dreamer, like,
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15:29
"Oh yeah, I started a new podcast.
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15:32
I don't really put out any episodes or tell anyone about it, but I
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15:35
think it will be successful."
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15:37
That is an optimistic person, maybe too optimistic, but an ambitious person is
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใชไบบใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใ™ใŽใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€้‡Žๅฟƒ็š„ใชไบบใฏ
15:42
someone who really desires that success and they'll work hard to achieve it.
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15:48
So, when talking about our goals, we might set and measure milestones.
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€็›ฎๆจ™ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€ ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใ‚’่จญๅฎšใ—ใฆๆธฌๅฎšใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
15:55
What is a milestone, Nick?
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15:58
So, a milestone is similar to a goal, but a goal tends to be referring to the
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16:06
end outcome and a milestone tends to be referring to points along the way.
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16:12
So, if I wanted to achieve a hundred thousand downloads of
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16:17
my podcast, that is my goal.
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16:20
And maybe significant points along that way, like my first thousand
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ใใ—ใฆใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใฎ 1,000 ๅ›žใฎ
16:24
downloads would be a milestone.
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ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใŒใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใซใชใ‚‹ใชใฉใ€ใใฎ้Ž็จ‹ใง้‡่ฆใชใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
16:25
Is that right?
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16:26
Yeah, I think so, I think so.
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16:28
Or you could say that you wanted to have a very successful podcast and your
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ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใ€ ้žๅธธใซๆˆๅŠŸใ—ใŸใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใฎ
16:34
milestones would be putting out your first one, having your first a thousand
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๅ…ฌ้–‹ใ— ใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใฎ 1,000 ๅ›žใฎ
16:38
downloads, getting to 10,000 having an amazing, articulate and charismatic
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ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’็ฒๅพ—ใ—ใ€10,000 ๅ›žใซๅˆฐ้”ใ—ใฆใ€ ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใใ€ๆ˜Žๆ™ฐใงใ‚ซใƒชใ‚นใƒžๆ€งใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ…ฑๅŒ
16:46
co-host join you, do collaborations โ€” you know, these are all milestones, right?
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ใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใ€ใ‚ณใƒฉใƒœใƒฌใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใŒใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใซใชใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใ™ในใฆใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? ๆˆๅŠŸใ‚’ๅฎš็พฉใ™ใ‚‹
16:50
The things that you would set in, in your plan to get to the point
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ใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใซๅˆฐ้”ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎ่จˆ็”ปใซไฝ•ใ‚’่จญๅฎšใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฏใ€
16:53
where you would define your success has determined by your goal.
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16:56
The host that I use to host the podcast, the software that allows
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็งใŒใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ›ใ‚นใƒˆ ใ€ใคใพใ‚Š
17:02
me to put this podcast out, actually gives me milestone celebration emails.
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ใ“ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๅ…ฌ้–‹ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ฝใƒ•ใƒˆใ‚ฆใ‚งใ‚ขใฏใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ็งใซใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใฎใŠ็ฅใ„ใƒกใƒผใƒซใ‚’ใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
17:08
So, when I upload a certain number of episodes, I get a little badge
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ไธ€ๅฎšๆ•ฐ ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€
17:13
emailed to me saying, "Congratulations, you've hit 50 episodes."
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ใ€ŒใŠใ‚ใงใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ 50 ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใซ้”ใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๅฐใ•ใชใƒใƒƒใ‚ธใŒใƒกใƒผใƒซใงๅฑŠใใพใ™ใ€‚
17:17
And then at certain number of downloads as well, I get these different badges.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ไธ€ๅฎšๆ•ฐใฎใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใƒญใƒผใƒ‰ ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ•ใพใ–ใพใชใƒใƒƒใ‚ธใ‚’ๅ–ๅพ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:22
Which, you know, it's like, they're not my milestones.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ็งใฎใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใงใฏใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
17:25
I don't care as much about them as...
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็งใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ใใ‚Œใปใฉๆฐ—ใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“...
17:26
It's nice they care though.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใŒๆฐ—ใซใ‹ใ‘ใฆใใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:27
It is, it is.
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17:28
It's nice to be reminded that I'm making progress.
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่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒ้€ฒๆญฉใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใˆใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:30
Yeah.
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17:31
Now, do you know where milestone, the word milestone came from?
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใ€ ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใฎ็”ฑๆฅใฏใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
17:34
Go on, enlighten me.
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ใ•ใ‚ใ€ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
17:35
So, a long time ago โ€” I don't know when it first started โ€” but
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใšใฃใจๆ˜”ใ€ใ„ใคใ‹ใ‚‰ ๅง‹ใพใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
17:40
milestones are literal stones that were put each mile along a road.
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ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใจใฏใ€ ้“่ทฏใซๆฒฟใฃใฆ 1 ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ”ใจใซ็ฝฎใ‹ใ‚ŒใŸๆ–‡ๅญ—ใฉใŠใ‚Šใฎ็Ÿณใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:47
And so if there was a road from Bristol to London, then they would have had
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใƒ–ใƒชใ‚นใƒˆใƒซใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใพใงใฎ้“ใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใชใ‚‰ ใ€
17:51
milestones to help people be aware of their progress over their journey.
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ไบบใ€…ใŒๆ—…ใฎ้€ฒๆญฉใ‚’่ช่ญ˜ใงใใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
17:56
Interestingly, they still exist.
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่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ“ใจใซใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใพใ ๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:57
They exist as modern milestones on motorways.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ้ซ˜้€Ÿ้“่ทฏไธŠใฎ็พไปฃใฎใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใจใ—ใฆๅญ˜ๅœจใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚
18:00
Yeah.
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18:01
So, when you're driving along a motorway in the UK, they've got these
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚นใฎ้ซ˜้€Ÿ้“่ทฏใ‚’่ตฐใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€้ป„่‰ฒใ„ๅธฏใŒไป˜ใ„ใŸ
18:04
little kind of steel sticks with, I think, yellow bands around them,
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ๅฐใ•ใช้‰„ใฎๆฃ’ใŒ็ฝฎใ‹ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใŒ ใ€
18:09
that are milestones that still exist.
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ใ“ใ‚ŒใฏไปŠใ‚‚ๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใงใ™ใ€‚
18:10
I don't know why anybody would use them.
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ใชใœ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
18:12
And the old milestones would say, like, "50 miles to London".
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ๆ˜”ใฎใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใซใฏ ใ€Œใƒญใƒณใƒ‰ใƒณใพใง 50 ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ€ใชใฉใจๆ›ธใ‹ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
18:15
Yes, correct.
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18:16
Yeah, yeah.
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18:17
So, you had some idea that you were making progress.
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18:19
And I think that's what milestones are there for, to remind you that although
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใ“ใใŒใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใฎ็›ฎ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€
18:23
you might be losing sight of your goal and wondering why you're working so hard,
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็›ฎๆจ™ใ‚’่ฆ‹ๅคฑใ„ใ€ ใชใœใใ‚“ใชใซ้ ‘ๅผตใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใŒใ€
18:28
it says, "Look, you're making progress.
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ใ€Œใปใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ้€ฒๆญฉใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚็ถšใ‘
18:29
Keep going."
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ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€ใจๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’่ช˜ๆƒ‘ใ™ใ‚‹
18:30
It's kind of a way to egg you on, isn't it?
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18:33
Yeah.
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18:33
It'll remind you how far you've got to go.
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ใพใง่กŒใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใฆใใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
18:36
And the milestones still litter, the old ones still litter the UK landscape.
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18:41
So you find them every now and again around.
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18:43
Yeah.
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18:44
So the last two words that we want to introduce are pointless.
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18:48
What's pointless?
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18:49
If something is pointless, then it has...
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18:52
No point!
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18:53
No point!
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18:54
Point being reason.
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18:55
Yeah.
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18:56
So, if something is pointless then it's reasonless.
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18:59
Can you give me an example of something?
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19:01
An activity that would be pointless.
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19:04
So, for example, if you were making a podcast.
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ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ไฝœๆˆใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:10
Mm-hmm.
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19:10
Putting your makeup on.
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ๅŒ–็ฒงใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ€‚
19:12
Yes.
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19:12
Might be a bit pointless.
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19:14
Yes, because no one sees your face.
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19:16
Yeah.
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19:16
Unless you're trying to charm your co-hosts.
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ๅ…ฑๅŒๅธไผš่€…ใ‚’้ญ…ไบ†ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใ€‚
19:18
Or , unless you have a...
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19:20
I hope you're enjoying mine.
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19:21
...a reflective microphone and you can see yourself in the microphone.
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19:24
You're like,
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19:24
"Oh, that's a bit scary.
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19:26
I put a bit of makeup on that."
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19:27
Yeah.
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19:28
So, something that doesn't help you to achieve your goal, I would say.
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19:32
It's pointless, like worrying about things sometimes, or most of the
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19:37
time worrying can be pointless.
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19:40
Yeah.
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19:41
Worrying is a bit of an iceberg, isn't it?
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19:43
Yeah it can make you, more stressed and not think about things clearly
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19:48
and can make other people around you feel quite stressed and then it can
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19:51
make the environment quite unpleasant.
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19:53
So, that, that could be deemed as pointless.
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19:55
In some cases, worrying is quite important.
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19:57
Well, in some cases, worrying is counterproductive.
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20:01
Yes, yes.
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20:02
But we try and not make pointless resolutions.
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20:05
Some people do, don't they, make pointless resolutions?
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20:07
They might make them just to make themselves feel better.
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ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใ‚’่‰ฏใใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ ใ‘ใซใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ไฝœใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
20:10
When I was younger, I had a collection.
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่‹ฅใ„้ ƒใ€ใ‚ณใƒฌใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:13
I collected bus tickets.
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20:15
That sounds pretty pointless.
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20:16
That was completely pointless.
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20:18
I had bags and bags of bus tickets.
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็งใฏใƒใ‚นใฎใƒใ‚ฑใƒƒใƒˆใ‚’ไฝ•่ข‹ใ‚‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
20:22
And I think the reason I was collecting them was because I used to be a fan of a
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’้›†ใ‚ใฆใ„ใŸ็†็”ฑใฏใ€ ็งใŒๆœ
20:25
morning TV programme that was on at seven in the morning called The Big Breakfast.
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7ๆ™‚ใซๆ”พ้€ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใŸใ€Œใƒ“ใƒƒใ‚ฐใƒปใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚นใƒˆใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๆœใฎใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“็•ช็ต„ใฎใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ€Œ
20:31
Do you remember The Big Breakfast?
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20:31
I do remember The Big Breakfast.
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ใƒ“ใƒƒใ‚ฐใƒปใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚นใƒˆใ€ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:32
With Gaby Roslin and Chris Evans.
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20:35
And Johnny Vaughan.
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20:36
Johnny Vaughan.
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20:37
Yeah, I think he was a little after I was watching it regularly, but they had
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๅฝผใฏ็งใŒๅฎšๆœŸ็š„ใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใ„ใŸๅฐ‘ใ—ๅพŒใฎใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใŒใ€
20:41
a section in that program about like pointless collections and people would be
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ใใฎ็•ช็ต„ใซใฏ ็„กๆ„ๅ‘ณใชใ‚ณใƒฌใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใ‚ปใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒ
20:46
featured with their pointless collections.
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20:48
And I thought,
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"I'd love to be on The Big Breakfast.
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ใ€Œใƒ“ใƒƒใ‚ฐใƒปใƒ–ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ฏใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚นใƒˆใซๅ‡บๆผ”ใ—ใŸใ„ใ€‚
20:50
I must start a pointless collection."
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20:52
Sounds very like you.
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20:54
We spend a lot of effort doing something.
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20:57
Yeah.
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20:57
Yeah.
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20:58
But opposite to pointless would be worthwhile.
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21:03
If something is worthwhile, then it's something that's worth doing.
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21:08
There's a good reason you have a good outcome for when you're doing it.
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่‰ฏใ„็ตๆžœใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใฎใซใฏๅๅˆ†ใช็†็”ฑใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
21:14
Yes, I agree.
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21:15
And one of the hardest things to do is to determine the difference between things
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21:20
that are pointless and worthwhile when they might both look like good ideas.
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21:26
Yeah.
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21:27
Yeah.
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21:27
What's the most worthwhile thing you've done recently that you can think of?
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆœ€่ฟ‘่กŒใฃใŸไธญใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ไพกๅ€คใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹ ?
21:32
Had two wonderful children.
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21:34
Yes, certainly wasn't pointless.
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21:37
It's tiring, but they are worthwhile.
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21:40
Yes.
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21:40
Once we can get them making a cup of tea in the morning, that
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ๆœใ€
ๅฝผใ‚‰ใซใŠ่Œถใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใŸใ‚‰ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
21:43
will be absolutely fantastic.
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใซใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
21:45
That's very optimistic.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅฝ่ฆณ็š„ใงใ™ใญใ€‚
21:46
Yeah, I would say our participation in the recent nutritional study.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใฎๆ „้คŠๅญฆ็ ”็ฉถใธใฎๅ‚ๅŠ ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€
21:53
We both took part in a nutritional study lately where we kind of
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็งใŸใกใฏไบŒไบบใจใ‚‚ๆ „้คŠๅญฆใฎ็ ”็ฉถใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใ€ ใใ“ใง่‡ชๅˆ†
21:57
measured our own food responses.
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่‡ช่บซใฎ้ฃŸ็‰ฉๅๅฟœใ‚’ๆธฌๅฎšใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
21:59
So, how our body reacts to the foods that we eat in our day-to-day diet.
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ใใ‚Œใงใฏใ€็งใŸใกใฎไฝ“ใฏๆฏŽๆ—ฅใฎ้ฃŸไบ‹ใง้ฃŸในใ‚‹้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅๅฟœใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ใ€‚
22:04
And that's taught us both quite a lot.
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ใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกไบŒไบบใซใจใฆใ‚‚ๅคšใใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
22:06
And we're still on this journey of adjusting our intake of food
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฏไปŠใ‚‚ใ€ ้ฃŸไบ‹ใฎๆ‘‚ๅ–้‡ใ‚’่ชฟๆ•ดใ—
22:11
and trying to restrict alcohol.
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ใ€ใ‚ขใƒซใ‚ณใƒผใƒซใ‚’ๅˆถ้™ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๆ—…ใฎ้€”ไธญใงใ™ใ€‚
22:13
And I think that's been a very worthwhile activity because it's got a
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซ ไพกๅ€คใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ๆดปๅ‹•ใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€
22:19
very valuable outcome, which is better health, more energy, better moods, and
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ ๅฅๅบทใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅคšใใฎใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใ€ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ๆฐ—ๅˆ†ใจใ„ใ†้žๅธธใซไพกๅ€คใฎใ‚ใ‚‹็ตๆžœใ‚’ใ‚‚ใŸใ‚‰ใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€ใใ—ใฆ
22:27
hopefully we'll live a lot longer and have a longer health span at least.
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้ก˜ใ‚ใใฐใ€็งใŸใกใŒใ‚‚ใฃใจ้•ท็”Ÿใใ—ใ€ ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ๅฅๅบทๅฏฟๅ‘ฝใŒ้•ทใใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’้ก˜ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
22:31
And, you know, again, this is something that's super interesting
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ใใ—ใฆใ€็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ ้žๅธธใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
22:35
because if you did the study and you changed nothing about your
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—็ ”็ฉถใ‚’่กŒใฃใฆ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎไบบ็”Ÿใซไฝ•ใ‚‚ๅค‰ๅŒ–ใŒใชใ‹ใฃใŸใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰
22:41
life, would it have been worthwhile or would it have been pointless?
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไพกๅ€คใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€ ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚็„กๆ„ๅ‘ณใ ใฃใŸใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
22:45
Well, it would have been pointless, I guess.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ็„กๆ„ๅ‘ณใ ใฃใŸใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‘ใฉใญใ€‚
22:47
Pointless doing the study, right?
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ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ็„กๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
22:48
Because there's no point in learning something unless you're going to
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใ€
22:51
put that learning into action.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒๅ‹•ใซ็งปใ•ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐๆ„ๅ‘ณใŒใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
22:54
And there you go, that brings us all the way back round to
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ใ•ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใงใฏ
22:57
setting New Year's resolutions.
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ๆ–ฐๅนดใฎๆŠฑ่ฒ ใฎ่จญๅฎšใซๆˆปใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
22:59
Yeah, there's no point in doing it unless you're going to follow through with it.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ๆœ€ๅพŒใพใงใ‚„ใ‚Š้‚ใ’ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐๆ„ๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚
23:02
Yeah, be consistent, take the right actions, set the goals, have milestones,
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ใใ†ใ€ไธ€่ฒซๆ€งใ‚’ๆŒใกใ€ๆญฃใ—ใ„ ่กŒๅ‹•ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Šใ€็›ฎๆจ™ใ‚’่จญๅฎšใ—ใ€ใƒžใ‚คใƒซใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒณใ‚’่จญใ‘ใ€
23:07
follow through and make the changes that you desire to see in your life.
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใพใงใ‚„ใ‚Š้‚ใ’ใ€ไบบ็”Ÿใซๆœ›ใ‚€ๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ‚’่ตทใ“ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚
23:10
And try to enjoy the journey.
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ใใ—ใฆๆ—…ใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใ‚“ใงใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
23:12
It's something that I say to the people who enrol on my Fluency Programme is,
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็งใฎๆตๆšขใ•ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใซ็™ป้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใŸใกใซ็งใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใฏใ€
23:17
you know, it shouldn't be all hard work.
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใงใฏใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
23:19
It should be fun and you have to make it a part of your daily life, which is
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ในใใงใ‚ใ‚Š ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ—ฅๅธธ็”Ÿๆดปใฎไธ€้ƒจใซใ—ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
23:23
why we really encourage community and we encourage people to get involved with our
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ“ใใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅฅจๅŠฑใ—ใฆใŠใ‚Šใ€ ไบบใ€…ใŒ็งใŸใกใฎ Telegram ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฅจๅŠฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€
23:29
Telegram app and it becomes much more of a social, enjoyable learning experience.
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ˆใ‚Š ็คพไบค็š„ใงๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๅญฆ็ฟ’ไฝ“้จ“ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
23:36
And yeah, participation is such a key element in learning a language,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ่จ€่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใณใ€
23:40
getting the practice that you need.
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ๅฟ…่ฆใช็ทด็ฟ’ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ไธŠใง้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆใช่ฆ็ด ใงใ™ใ€‚
23:42
Absolutely.
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็ตถๅฏพใซใ€‚
23:43
Okay.
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23:43
Well, thank you, Nick.
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ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚
ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ€ใƒ‹ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ€‚
23:44
And, uh...
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23:44
You're very welcome.
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจ...
ใฉใ†ใ„ใŸใ—ใพใ—ใฆใ€‚
23:45
I wish you all the best for 2024 and for everybody listening, I do hope that this
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2024 ๅนดใŒใ”ๅคšๅนธใ‚’ใŠ็ฅˆใ‚Šใ„ใŸใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ ่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใซใจใฃใฆใ€ไปŠๅนดใŒ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใฎ
23:52
year is your year to make a positive impact on your life and your learning.
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็”Ÿๆดปใจๅญฆ็ฟ’ใซใƒ—ใƒฉใ‚นใฎๅฝฑ้Ÿฟใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ๅนดใจใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’้ก˜ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:58
If you want to get involved with the things that we do over at English
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English Like a Native ใง็งใŸใกใŒ่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏ
24:01
Like a Native, then click on the link in the description to find out
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ใ€ ่ชฌๆ˜Žๅ†…ใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆใ€
24:05
more about our Fluency Programme and other services we provide.
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Fluency Program ใ‚„็งใŸใกใŒๆไพ›ใ™ใ‚‹ใใฎไป–ใฎใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใฎ่ฉณ็ดฐใ‚’ใ”่ฆงใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
24:09
Until next time, take very good care and goodbye.
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ๆฌกๅ›žใพใงใ€ๅๅˆ†ใซๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ•ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‰ ใ€‚
24:13
Goodbye.
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