Things Native English Speakers Say - British English Podcast

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My name is Anna.

我的名字是安娜。

And my name's Nick.

我的名字叫尼克。

And today we are going to be bringing in the New Year with

今天，我们将带着 一些好的旧决心

Some good old resolutions.

来迎接新年 。

'New Year, New Me' is a phrase you'll often hear in January.

“新年，新我”是您在一月份经常听到的一句话。

The beginning of a new year is seen by many as an occasion to turn over a

许多人将新的一年的开始视为翻开

new leaf and start with a clean slate.

新的一页并从头开始的机会。

Now, some people decide to give up unhealthy habits, such as drinking

现在，一些人决定放弃不健康的习惯，例如

alcohol or eating chocolates every day.

每天喝酒或吃巧克力。

Others see the start of the New Year as an occasion to pick up new hobbies.

其他人则将新年的开始视为培养新爱好的机会。

Personally, I find myself being a little too optimistic and ambitious at the

就我个人而言，我发现自己在 新年伊始 有点过于乐观和雄心勃勃

beginning of the New Year, which has led me to set unrealistic milestones.

，这导致我设定了不切实际的里程碑。

However, it's still something I do every year.

然而，这仍然是我每年都会做的事情。

Do you set resolutions, Nick?

尼克，你定下决心了吗？

I don't.

我不。

Now there is one year where I did specifically set a New Year's resolution.

现在有一年我专门制定了新年计划。

Go on, I'm intrigued.

继续吧，我很好奇。

Tell me.

It was when I was finding things very difficult and I

告诉我。

那时我发现事情非常困难，我

had taken on too many things.

承担了太多的事情。

I was studying outside of work every day.

我每天工作之余都在学习。

I was managing a side hustle and I'd taken on a promotion, far too many things.

我一边做副业，一边升职，要做的事情太多了。

I was travelling all over the place and I was really focused on the ideals

我到处旅行，我真正关注的是

of a better life rather than living the life that I had at the time.

美好生活的理想，而不是过我当时的生活。

Okay, so you were kind of looking ahead and maybe overstretching yourself,

好吧，所以你有点向前看，也许过度伸展自己，

trying to achieve something more rather than just being grateful for

试图取得更多的成就，而不仅仅是对

the things that you had at the time.

当时拥有的东西心存感激。

Yes, that's right.

恩，那就对了。

And so I set one specific New Year's resolution, which was to relax a

所以我制定了一个具体的新年决心，那就是放松一点

little bit, to enjoy what I already had, and be grateful that it was

，享受我已经拥有的一切，并感激这已经

enough, and to take a lot off my plate.

足够了，并从我的盘子里减少很多东西。

And it was successful.

它成功了。

And it was very successful because it didn't need very much to do.

它非常成功，因为它不需要做太多事情。

Actually, I had to do less.

事实上，我必须做得更少。

Right.

正确的。

So, when you say, take a lot off your plate, we talk about our plate, don't

所以，当你说，从你的盘子上卸下很多东西时，我们谈论的是我们的盘子，不是吗

we, a lot when talking about our responsibilities, and the amount of

，在谈论我们的责任以及 我们堆积在盘子上的责任

responsibilities we pile onto our plate.

量时，我们谈论了很多 。

It's a metaphorical plate that we have.

这是我们拥有的一个隐喻盘子。

And if we have a lot of things to do, then we have a lot on our plate.

如果我们有很多事情要做，那么我们就有很多事情要做。

So, that's something I might say to someone when they

所以，当某人给

bring something new to me.

我带来新东西时，我可能会对他们说这样的话。

"Anna, would you like to help out with the planning the, the school fair?"

“安娜，你愿意帮忙策划学校博览会吗？”

I'm like, "I'd love to do that, but I've got a lot on my plate at the moment."

我想，“我很乐意这样做，但目前我还有很多事情要做。”

That means I've got a lot of things going on and too many responsibilities to cope.

这意味着我有很多事情要做，有太多责任需要应对。

So, in your example there, at that time in your life, you had too many

所以，在你的例子中，在你生命中的那个时候，你有太多的

things to do, too much responsibility.

事情要做，太多的责任。

So, you wanted to take some things off your plate.

所以，你想把一些事情从你的盘子里拿下来。

Yeah, it's a lovely metaphor, isn't it?

是的，这是一个很可爱的比喻，不是吗？

Because if you sit at the table and you've got all the food on

因为如果你坐在餐桌旁，盘子里已经装满了所有食物

your plate and someone says,

，有人说：

"Do you want some more parsnips at Christmas?"

“圣诞节你想再吃点防风草吗？”

And you say,

你说：

"No, that's fine.

“不，没关系。

I have a lot on my plate."

我还有很多事情要做。”

You're, you know, you're saying I've got enough to try and consume as it is.

你知道，你是说我已经有足够的东西可以尝试按原样消费。

And if I have any more, it's going to feel sick.

如果我再有更多的话，我就会感到恶心。

I'm not going to be able to manage it.

我将无法管理它。

And actually I won't be able to consume the things that you're giving me.

事实上我无法消耗你给我的东西。

It's just too much.

实在是太多了。

That reminds me of a lovely phrase, which is completely unrelated, but

这让我想起一个可爱的短语，它是完全不相关的，但

I'm going to throw it in there, which is when you put too much on your

我要把它放在那里，当你在

plate, literally, and you could say,

盘子上放太多东西时，字面意思是，你可以说，

"Oh my goodness, me, your eyes are bigger than your belly."

“哦，天哪，我，你的眼睛比肚子还大。”

You think that you're going to eat all that, but you can't possibly eat all that.

你认为你会吃掉所有这些，但你不可能吃掉所有这些。

Your eyes are bigger than your belly.

你的眼睛比你的肚子还大。

But enough about food enough about bellies.

但关于食物已经足够了，关于肚子也足够了。

Tell us, your ambition to reduce the amount of things on

告诉我们，您减少

your plate, was it successful?

盘子里的事情的愿望成功了吗？

Yes, it was.

I mean, there's a lot in New Year's resolutions around, you know,

是的。

我的意思是，新年决心中有很多内容，你知道，

being grateful for things, right?

对事物心存感激，对吗？

And thinking about how you can live a better life.

并思考如何才能过上更好的生活。

And for me, you know, I think this is why it was successful is I stopped

对我来说，你知道，我认为这就是它成功的原因是我停止了

the formal qualifications I was doing.

我正在做的正式资格认证。

I stopped the side hustle I focused on my main job and being successful there, and

我停止了副业，专注于我的主要工作并在那里取得成功，

I focused on enjoying the things I had and giving myself time to do those things.

我专注于享受我所拥有的事情并给自己时间去做这些事情。

So, a lot of people when they have a New Year's resolution, they add

所以，很多人在制定新年计划时，都会

more things to their plates, right?

在自己的盘子里添加更多的东西，对吧？

So, how's that looked for you in the past?

那么，您过去的情况如何？

Yeah, I've often started new projects at the New Year point.

是的，我经常在新年时开始新项目。

I always think,

我总是想，

"Oh yes, this would be a great time to start posting every day on one

“哦，是的，这将是开始每天在

of my many social medias and, I'm going to start a new business."

我的众多社交媒体之一上发帖的好时机，而且我要开始一项新业务。”

So, I'm always very ambitious in that respect and...

所以，我在这方面总是非常雄心勃勃……

It doesn't surprise me.

这并不令我感到惊讶。

It hasn't worked very well for many people resolutions tend to fail within a few

对于许多人来说，它的效果并不好，决心在

months of starting them because they're overreaching, they are doing too much.

开始后的几个月内往往会失败，因为他们做得太过分了，做得太多了。

But resolutions can still be quite successful if you do it

但 正如你所说，如果你以正确的方式

in the right way, like you said.

去做，决议仍然可以非常成功

But let's now turn to some vocabulary that you could use to talk about

。 但是现在让我们转向一些可以用来谈论

resolutions and starting afresh.

决心和重新开始的词汇。

So, starting afresh would be one phrase that you could use,

因此，您可以使用“重新开始”这个短语，

or to start with a clean slate.

或者从头开始。

Let's dig into that.

让我们深入探讨一下。

What is a slate?

什么是石板？

So a slate, slate is a stone and, um...

所以石板，石板是一块石头，嗯……

We put it on our roofs, don't we?

我们把它放在屋顶上，不是吗？

Yeah, we put it on our roofs.

是的，我们把它放在屋顶上。

We use it for laying a patio.

我们用它来铺设庭院。

So, having a nice stone patio to enjoy.

所以，有一个漂亮的石头庭院可以享受。

I think that slate was also used for things like painting in the past.

我认为石板在过去也被用来做绘画之类的事情。

You'd have a painter's slate, and for holding other things.

你会有一个画家的石板，用来装其他东西。

And for writing in the classroom.

以及在课堂上写作。

Before paper was a thing, chalk, people would teach children with a slate; a

在纸、粉笔出现之前，人们会用石板教孩子们；一块

piece of slate and chalk and that's how they would write they'd write on slate.

石板和粉笔，这就是他们在石板上写字的方式。

And then they could wipe the slate clean When they wanted to start again,

然后他们可以把石板擦干净 当他们想重新开始时，

and so that's where I'm assuming, I haven't actually researched this, but

这就是我假设的地方，我实际上还没有研究过这一点，但

I'm assuming that's where the phrase comes from to wipe the slate clean.

我假设这就是“擦石板干净”这句话的来源。

It means to start again.

意思是重新开始。

Yeah, and once they got past slate and started using paper then

是的，一旦他们通过了石板并开始使用纸张，那么

you would have 'a clean sheet'.

你就会得到“一张干净的纸”。

'A clean sheet', yeah, a clean...

“一张干净的床单”，是的，干净的……

yeah, not the sheets on your bed!

是的，不是你床上的床单！

Although, it's good to have clean sheets every now and again.

尽管如此，时不时地保持干净的床单还是很好的。

Okay, so you can start with a clean slate.

好的，你可以从头开始。

So, to make a fresh start forgetting about any past mistakes or you could...

所以，要重新开始，忘记过去的任何错误，或者你可以......

Turn over a new leaf.

翻开新的一页。

Yes.

是的。

And I think both of these refer to a little bit like my situation, right?

我认为这两者都有点像我的情况，对吧？

I gave that example of, that things were a bit of a mess, you know, if

我举了一个例子，事情有点乱，你知道，如果

you're trying to write a story on your slate with your chalk and your teacher

你试图用粉笔在石板上写一个故事，你的老师

comes over and they go, look, I know you've got the right essentials here,

过来了，他们走了，看，我知道你已经有了正确的要点在这里，

but let's start again, let's clean the slate, turn over a new leaf, right?

但让我们重新开始，让我们洗清历史，翻开新的一页，对吗？

And then you've got a nice blank piece of paper to start articulating

然后你就得到了一张漂亮的白纸，可以开始

your new life story in a really clear and intentional way.

以非常清晰和有意的方式阐明你的新生活故事。

But when we say turn over a new leaf, do we actually mean like the

但是，当我们说翻开新叶子时，我们实际上是指像

leaf that would come off a tree?

从树上脱落的叶子一样吗？

No, I don't know where it comes from, actually.

不，实际上我不知道它从哪里来。

Well, I think a leaf is another way of referring to a page in a book.

嗯，我认为叶子是指书中一页的另一种方式。

Yeah.

So, from my point of view, or in my opinion, it would be, I

是的。

所以，从我的角度来看，或者在我看来，我

should research this, shouldn't I?

应该研究这个，不是吗？

You should, yes!

你应该，是的！

To turn over a new leaf is to turn over a new page in a book, metaphorically.

比喻地说，翻开新的一页就是翻开书中的新一页。

And so in life, if you have been doing something that hasn't been working out for

所以在生活中，如果你一直在做一些不适合

you, or perhaps you have unhealthy habits, perhaps you're addicted to junk food

你的事情，或者也许你有不健康的习惯，也许你沉迷于垃圾食品

and sugar, I've certainly been a sugar addict in the past, and you're deciding,

和糖，我过去肯定是一个糖瘾者，然后你决定，

"No, I want to live a healthier lifestyle next year.

“不，我想明年过上更健康的生活方式。

So, now, or from now on, and so now I'm going to turn over a new leaf.

所以，现在，或者从现在开始，所以现在我要翻开新的一页。

I'm going to start afresh, change things and do things differently."

我要重新开始，改变事物并以不同的方式做事。”

When talking about bad habits, we can use the phrasal verb to give up.

当谈论坏习惯时，我们可以使用短语动词“放弃”。

So, to give something up, this is a very common phrase, isn't it?

所以，放弃一些东西，这是一个很常见的短语，不是吗？

It's to stop doing something that has been very prominent in your life.

这是停止做一些在你的生活中非常重要的事情。

So, have you given up anything recently, Nick?

那么，尼克，你最近放弃了什么吗？

I'm a bit of a goody two shoes, actually.

事实上，我有点擅长穿两双鞋。

Oh, are you?

哦，你是？

And, I think for me, now we've gone through a bit of a

而且，我想对我来说，现在我们已经经历了一段

journey on food, haven't we?

关于食物的旅程，不是吗？

We have.

And I think I've gone through a slow, and I would say yet to be fully

我们有。

我想我 戒酒的 过程很缓慢，而且我想说还没有完全

successful giving up of alcohol.

成功。

Okay.

好的。

Because, and I don't think I'll ever fully give it up because I like a

因为，我不认为我会完全放弃它，因为我喜欢

little tipple every now and again.

时不时地喝一点酒。

Yeah.

是的。

So you're, you understand that for you, alcohol shouldn't be

所以你明白，对你来说，酒精不应该成为

a major feature in your life.

你生活中的主要特征。

You want to give it up, but you struggle to give it up completely.

你想放弃，但又很难完全放弃。

Yes, and now I think some people have, particularly when it's linked

是的，现在我认为有些人，特别是当它与

to either their social life or their work life, they have alcohol

他们的社交生活或工作生活相关时，他们

as a habitual part of their week.

每周都会习惯喝酒。

Yeah.

是的。

It's very hard socially or if your bosses are like,

社交是非常困难的，或者如果你的老板说，

"Hey, come to the pub after work.

“嘿，下班后来酒吧。

Or let's go to a restaurant.

或者我们去餐馆吧。

I'm going to buy a nice bottle of wine for everyone to thank the

我要为每个人买一瓶好酒，以感谢

team for all their hard work."

团队的辛勤工作”。

And then they go to pour a glass for you and you say,

然后他们去给你倒一杯，你说：

"Oh no thank you I don't drink anymore."

“哦，不，谢谢你，我不再喝酒了。”

It can feel a bit awkward can't it?

可能会感觉有点尴尬不是吗？

There's that kind of social expectation of partaking in in consuming alcohol

社会对饮酒有一种期望

and it can be difficult to say,

，很难说：

"No, I don't do that anymore."

“不，我不再这样做了。”

Yeah especially in advance when someone says,

是的，尤其是当有人说

"Okay, we're all going to go out for a night out on the 21st"

“好吧，我们要在 21 号出去过夜”

Or whenever, right?

或者任何时候，对吧？

"Do you want to come?"

“你想来吗？”

And you think,

你会想，

"Oh, God, I'd like to go and socialise.

“哦，天啊，我想去参加社交活动。

I'd like to spend some time."

我想花点时间。”

To be honest, I'd like to go and have fun with people in my team.

说实话，我很想去和我团队里的人一起玩。

But I think I've certainly matured out of drinking a lot of alcohol.

但我想，由于喝了很多酒，我确实已经成熟了。

I'm so conscious of the consequences to your immediate

我非常清楚这对你现在的

life and the future life as well.

生活和未来的生活的影响。

You're talking about hangovers.

你说的是宿醉。

Hangovers!

宿醉！

It's not just hangovers though, it's also being woken up at 6.30 by children if

这不仅仅是宿醉的问题，如果 你凌晨两点钟到家， 6.30 的时候也会被孩子们吵醒

you get in at two o'clock in the morning.

。

Yeah, that can be quite devastating.

是的，这可能是相当具有破坏性的。

After having a skinful.

吃完皮后。

Yes, absolutely.

是的，一点没错。

Okay, so, give up as a common phrasal verb.

好吧，所以，放弃作为一个常见的短语动词。

Another phrasal verb I'd like to introduce is to pick up.

我想介绍的另一个短语动词是“pick up”。

So, this is the opposite of giving up.

所以，这与放弃是相反的。

If you pick something up, then we're talking about starting or

如果你选择了某件事，那么我们正在谈论开始或

taking on a new habit or skill.

采取新的习惯或技能。

So, I once bought you a guitar for Christmas because I was hopeful

所以，我曾经给你买了一把吉他作为圣诞节礼物，因为我希望

that you might pick up the guitar, both literally and metaphorically,

你能够拿起吉他，无论是字面上还是隐喻上，

pick up the skill of playing guitar.

学会弹吉他的技巧。

But I don't think you've picked it up once, have you?

但我想你一次也没有拿起过它，是吗？

You didn't pick up the skill, certainly.

当然，你没有掌握这项技能。

First day, picked up a few new apps on my phone, that's for sure.

第一天，我的手机上安装了一些新应用程序，这是肯定的。

Yeah, but I think, Anna, this is interesting, right?

是的，但我认为，安娜，这很有趣，对吧？

Because starting New Year's resolutions, often people think about stopping habits,

因为开始新年决心时，人们常常会考虑停止习惯，

but maybe a more aspirational thing to do is to start better habits, right?

但也许更理想的事情是养成更好的习惯，对吗？

You can start good habits as well as end bad habits.

你可以养成好习惯，也可以改掉坏习惯。

So, maybe swapping, spending three hours in front of the television in the

因此，也许晚上在电视机前花三个小时，

evening swapping half of one of those hours to spend time doing something

将其中一半时间花在

like learning the guitar would be a more useful way to spend your time.

学习吉他之类的事情上，会是一种更有用的打发时间的方式。

Yes.

Yeah.

是的。

是的。

When was the last time you picked up a new habit or picked up a new skill?

您最后一次养成新习惯或新技能是什么时候？

Picked up a new skill.

掌握了一项新技能。

That's interesting.

那很有意思。

Well, I've been learning woodwork over the last few years.

嗯，这几年我一直在学习木工。

You have, and you're actually fantastic with woodwork.

你有，而且你在木制品方面确实很棒。

I think I was a bit unfair when you first showed an interest in carpentry because,

我认为当你第一次对木工表现出兴趣时我有点不公平，因为，

well, you wanted to do things around the house and I was quite happy for you to put

嗯，你想在房子周围做一些事情，我很高兴你搭了

up a few shelves, but I was a bit nervous when you talked about, you know, building

几个架子，但当你说话时我有点紧张关于，你知道，建造

full units and, and making cupboards.

完整的单元和制作橱柜。

And I thought,

"Oh, this is just going to end up being an expensive hobby and a bit of a mess."

我想，

“哦，这最终会成为一种昂贵的爱好，而且有点混乱。”

But actually, I underestimated you and you've done some amazing

但事实上，我低估了你，而你却做了一些了不起的事

things around the house and the house looks so much better for it.

房子周围的东西和房子看起来好多了。

Apart from the holes in the wall that still need completing.

除了墙上的洞还需要修补。

But you have, that's a really useful skill to pick up actually.

但你有，这实际上是一项非常有用的技能。

And a great cost saver, right?

而且可以节省大量成本，对吧？

And I tell you what, I could start hiring you out to the

我告诉你，我可以开始雇用你到

local community, as a carpenter.

当地社区，担任木匠。

That could also be quite useful.

这也可能非常有用。

Some other words that we might use when talking about New Year

在谈论新年

and New Year's resolutions.

和新年决心时我们可能会使用的一些其他词。

Well, I think if you're giving up a habit, then you know, you might not use

好吧，我认为如果你要放弃一种习惯，那么你知道，你可能不会使用

these words, but certainly if you're starting a habit, then you might be

这些词，但当然，如果你开始一种习惯，那么你可能会对

optimistic or ambitious about what it might do to your life in the future.

它对你的生活产生的影响持乐观或雄心勃勃的态度。未来。

What does it mean to be optimistic?

乐观是什么意思？

So, optimistic means to have a positive outlook about the future, to think really

因此，乐观意味着对未来抱有积极的看法，真正

positively about the changes it's going to make or how successful you might be.

积极地思考它将要发生的变化或你可能会取得多大的成功。

So, if I were to start a podcast like this one, if I were to start a podcast and it's

所以，如果我要开始一个像这样的播客，如果我要开始一个播客并且它是

something completely new, I've never done it before, but I feel quite positive about

全新的东西，我以前从未做过，但我对

my chances of success, then I'm quite optimistic about the the podcast, right?

成功的机会非常乐观，那么我就很看好播客吧？

Yes.

And if you thought that it was going to make you the most successful, or

是的。

如果你认为这会让你成为最成功的，或者

your ambition with the podcast would be to be the most successful English

你对播客的抱负是成为

teacher in the world, then you would say that you're also ambitious.

世界上最成功的英语老师，那么你会说你也有雄心。

Okay.

So, to be ambitious is to have strong ambitions, to have strong

好的。

所以，有野心就是有强烈的野心，有强烈的

desires to achieve something.

愿望去实现某件事。

And you could refer to someone as being overly ambitious or too ambitious if

如果您 认为某人的目标相当困难或不太可能实现，

you think that their goals are quite difficult or unlikely to be achieved.

您可以称某人过于雄心勃勃或过于雄心勃勃 。

But it's good to be ambitious because that makes you work a little

但有雄心是件好事，因为这会让你

harder for the things that you want.

为你想要的事情付出更多努力。

Yeah, and I think they're interesting words to talk about at the same time

是的，我认为同时谈论这些词很有趣

because optimism is more about positivity of good things happening and ambition

，因为乐观更多的是关于好事发生的积极性，而雄心

is more about success and that the goals that you set for yourselves are high,

更多的是关于成功，你为自己设定的目标是崇高的、

lofty ambitions and that you're going to get a lot back out of it, right?

远大的抱负，并且你会从中得到很多回报，对吗？

Yeah, so if you are optimistic, then you are positive about your chances.

是的，所以如果你乐观，那么你就会对自己的机会充满信心。

If you're ambitious, then you have a strong desire to achieve those things.

如果你有雄心壮志，那么你就会有强烈的愿望去实现这些目标。

Yeah, and be successful.

Because you can be optimistic and not actually work very

是的，并且要成功。

因为你可以保持乐观，实际上并不需要非常

hard to achieve your goals.

努力地工作来实现你的目标。

You're just like, I would call that kind of person a dreamer, like,

你就像，我会称这种人为梦想家，就像，

"Oh yeah, I started a new podcast.

“哦，是的，我开始了一个新的播客。

I don't really put out any episodes or tell anyone about it, but I

我并没有真正推出任何剧集或告诉任何人，但我

think it will be successful."

认为它会成功”。

That is an optimistic person, maybe too optimistic, but an ambitious person is

这是一个乐观的人，也许太乐观了，但一个雄心勃勃的人是

someone who really desires that success and they'll work hard to achieve it.

真正渴望成功的人，他们会努力实现它。

So, when talking about our goals, we might set and measure milestones.

因此，在谈论我们的目标时，我们可能会设定并衡量里程碑。

What is a milestone, Nick?

什么是里程碑，尼克？

So, a milestone is similar to a goal, but a goal tends to be referring to the

因此，里程碑类似于目标，但目标往往指的是

end outcome and a milestone tends to be referring to points along the way.

最终结果，而里程碑往往指的是沿途的点。

So, if I wanted to achieve a hundred thousand downloads of

所以，如果我想实现我的播客的下载量达到十万次

my podcast, that is my goal.

，这就是我的目标。

And maybe significant points along that way, like my first thousand

也许这一过程中的重要点，比如我的前一千次

downloads would be a milestone.

下载将是一个里程碑。

Is that right?

是对的吗？

Yeah, I think so, I think so.

是的，我想是的，我想是的。

Or you could say that you wanted to have a very successful podcast and your

或者你可以说你想要一个非常成功的播客，你的

milestones would be putting out your first one, having your first a thousand

里程碑将是推出你的第一个播客，获得第一个一千次

downloads, getting to 10,000 having an amazing, articulate and charismatic

下载，达到一万次，有一个令人惊叹的、善于表达和有魅力的

co-host join you, do collaborations — you know, these are all milestones, right?

联合主持人加入你，进行合作——你知道，这些都是里程碑，对吧？

The things that you would set in, in your plan to get to the point

您在计划中设定的事项，以达到

where you would define your success has determined by your goal.

您定义成功的程度，取决于您的目标。

The host that I use to host the podcast, the software that allows

我用来主持播客的主机，允许

me to put this podcast out, actually gives me milestone celebration emails.

我发布这个播客的软件，实际上给了我里程碑式的庆祝电子邮件。

So, when I upload a certain number of episodes, I get a little badge

因此，当我上传一定数量的剧集时，我会收到一个

emailed to me saying, "Congratulations, you've hit 50 episodes."

通过电子邮件发送给我的小徽章，上面写着：“恭喜，您已经上传了 50 集。”

And then at certain number of downloads as well, I get these different badges.

然后，当下载达到一定数量时，我也会获得这些不同的徽章。

Which, you know, it's like, they're not my milestones.

你知道，这就像，它们不是我的里程碑。

I don't care as much about them as...

我对他们的关心不如...

It's nice they care though.

不过他们关心真是太好了。

It is, it is.

是的，是的。

It's nice to be reminded that I'm making progress.

很高兴被提醒我正在取得进步。

Yeah.

是的。

Now, do you know where milestone, the word milestone came from?

现在，你知道里程碑这个词是从哪里来的吗？

Go on, enlighten me.

继续，启发我。

So, a long time ago — I don't know when it first started — but

所以，很久以前——我不知道它是什么时候开始的——但

milestones are literal stones that were put each mile along a road.

里程碑实际上是沿着道路每一英里放置的石头。

And so if there was a road from Bristol to London, then they would have had

因此，如果有一条从布里斯托尔到伦敦的道路，那么他们就会有

milestones to help people be aware of their progress over their journey.

里程碑来帮助人们了解他们在旅程中的进展。

Interestingly, they still exist.

有趣的是，它们仍然存在。

They exist as modern milestones on motorways.

它们是高速公路上的现代里程碑。

Yeah.

是的。 所以，当你在英国的高速公路上行驶时，他们会看到这些

So, when you're driving along a motorway in the UK, they've got these

little kind of steel sticks with, I think, yellow bands around them,

小钢棍，我认为周围有黄色带子，

that are milestones that still exist.

这是仍然存在的里程碑。

I don't know why anybody would use them.

我不知道为什么有人会使用它们。

And the old milestones would say, like, "50 miles to London".

旧的里程碑会说“距伦敦 50 英里”。

Yes, correct.

是，对的。

Yeah, yeah.

是啊是啊。

So, you had some idea that you were making progress.

所以，你知道自己正在取得进步。

And I think that's what milestones are there for, to remind you that although

我认为这就是里程碑的作用，它提醒你，尽管

you might be losing sight of your goal and wondering why you're working so hard,

你可能会忽视自己的目标，并想知道为什么自己这么努力，但

it says, "Look, you're making progress.

它告诉你，“看，你正在取得进步。

Keep going."

继续前进。”

It's kind of a way to egg you on, isn't it?

这是一种怂恿你的方式，不是吗？

Yeah.

It'll remind you how far you've got to go.

是的。 它会提醒您还需要走多远。

And the milestones still litter, the old ones still litter the UK landscape.

里程碑仍然随处可见，旧的里程碑仍然散布在英国的风景中。

So you find them every now and again around.

所以你时不时就会发现它们。

Yeah.

是的。

So the last two words that we want to introduce are pointless.

所以我们要介绍的最后两个词是没有意义的。

What's pointless?

什么是无意义的？

If something is pointless, then it has...

如果某件事毫无意义，那么它就……

No point!

毫无意义！

No point!

没有意义！

Point being reason.

要点就是理由。

Yeah.

是的。

So, if something is pointless then it's reasonless.

所以，如果某件事毫无意义，那么它就是毫无道理的。

Can you give me an example of something?

你能给我举个例子吗？

An activity that would be pointless.

一项毫无意义的活动。

So, for example, if you were making a podcast.

举例来说，如果您正在制作播客。

Mm-hmm.

Putting your makeup on.

嗯嗯。

化妆。

Yes.

Might be a bit pointless.

是的。

可能有点无意义。

Yes, because no one sees your face.

是的，因为没有人看到你的脸。

Yeah.

Unless you're trying to charm your co-hosts.

是的。 除非你想吸引你的共同主持人。

Or , unless you have a...

或者，除非你有……

I hope you're enjoying mine.

我希望你喜欢我的。

...a reflective microphone and you can see yourself in the microphone.

...反射式麦克风，您可以在麦克风中看到自己。

You're like,

"Oh, that's a bit scary.

你会说，

“哦，这有点吓人。

I put a bit of makeup on that."

我化了点妆。”

Yeah.

是的。

So, something that doesn't help you to achieve your goal, I would say.

所以，我想说的是，这并不能帮助你实现你的目标。

It's pointless, like worrying about things sometimes, or most of the

这是毫无意义的，就像有时担心一些事情，或者大多数时候

time worrying can be pointless.

担心是毫无意义的。

Yeah.

是的。 担心有点像冰山，不是吗？

Worrying is a bit of an iceberg, isn't it?

Yeah it can make you, more stressed and not think about things clearly

是的，它会让你更有压力，无法清晰地思考事情

and can make other people around you feel quite stressed and then it can

，也会让你周围的其他人感到压力很大，然后它会让

make the environment quite unpleasant.

环境变得非常不愉快。

So, that, that could be deemed as pointless.

所以，这可以被认为是毫无意义的。

In some cases, worrying is quite important.

在某些情况下，担忧是相当重要的。

Well, in some cases, worrying is counterproductive.

好吧，在某些情况下，担心会适得其反。

Yes, yes.

是的是的。

But we try and not make pointless resolutions.

但我们尽量不做出毫无意义的决定。

Some people do, don't they, make pointless resolutions?

有些人确实会做出毫无意义的决定，不是吗？

They might make them just to make themselves feel better.

他们可能只是为了让自己感觉好一点而做这些。

When I was younger, I had a collection.

当我年轻的时候，我有一个收藏。

I collected bus tickets.

我收集了巴士票。

That sounds pretty pointless.

这听起来毫无意义。

That was completely pointless.

那完全没有意义。

I had bags and bags of bus tickets.

我有一袋又一袋的巴士票。

And I think the reason I was collecting them was because I used to be a fan of a

我想我收集它们的原因是因为我曾经是一个

morning TV programme that was on at seven in the morning called The Big Breakfast.

早上七点播出的早间电视节目《丰盛的早餐》的粉丝。

Do you remember The Big Breakfast?

I do remember The Big Breakfast.

你还记得《丰盛的早餐》吗？

我确实记得丰盛的早餐。

With Gaby Roslin and Chris Evans.

与盖比罗斯林和克里斯埃文斯。

And Johnny Vaughan.

还有约翰尼·沃恩。

Johnny Vaughan.

约翰尼·沃恩。

Yeah, I think he was a little after I was watching it regularly, but they had

是的，我认为他比我定期观看它晚了一点，但他们

a section in that program about like pointless collections and people would be

在该节目中有一个关于无意义收藏的部分，人们会以

featured with their pointless collections.

他们无意义的收藏为特色。

And I thought,

"I'd love to be on The Big Breakfast.

我想，

“我很想参加《丰盛的早餐》。

I must start a pointless collection."

我必须开始一个毫无意义的收藏。”

Sounds very like you.

听起来很像你。

We spend a lot of effort doing something.

我们花费很多精力去做某事。

Yeah.

Yeah.

是的。

是的。

But opposite to pointless would be worthwhile.

但与毫无意义相反的是值得的。

If something is worthwhile, then it's something that's worth doing.

如果某件事是有价值的，那么它就是值得做的事情。

There's a good reason you have a good outcome for when you're doing it.

当你这样做时，你有一个好的结果，这是有充分理由的。

Yes, I agree.

是的我同意。

And one of the hardest things to do is to determine the difference between things

最难做的事情之一就是确定

that are pointless and worthwhile when they might both look like good ideas.

无意义和有价值的事情之间的区别，因为它们可能看起来都是好主意。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

What's the most worthwhile thing you've done recently that you can think of?

是的。

你能想到最近做过的最有价值的事情是什么？

Had two wonderful children.

有两个很棒的孩子。

Yes, certainly wasn't pointless.

是的，当然不是毫无意义的。

It's tiring, but they are worthwhile.

虽然很累，但是他们都是值得的。

Yes.

Once we can get them making a cup of tea in the morning, that

是的。

一旦我们早上能让他们泡一杯茶，那就

will be absolutely fantastic.

太棒了。

That's very optimistic.

这是非常乐观的。

Yeah, I would say our participation in the recent nutritional study.

是的，我想说我们参与了最近的营养研究。

We both took part in a nutritional study lately where we kind of

我们最近都参加了一项营养研究，我们测量

measured our own food responses.

了自己的食物反应。

So, how our body reacts to the foods that we eat in our day-to-day diet.

那么，我们的身体对日常饮食中所吃的食物有何反应。

And that's taught us both quite a lot.

这教会了我们很多东西。

And we're still on this journey of adjusting our intake of food

我们仍然处于调整食物摄入量

and trying to restrict alcohol.

和限制饮酒的过程中。

And I think that's been a very worthwhile activity because it's got a

我认为这是一项非常有价值的活动，因为它带来了

very valuable outcome, which is better health, more energy, better moods, and

非常有价值的结果，那就是更好的健康、更多的精力、更好的心情，

hopefully we'll live a lot longer and have a longer health span at least.

希望我们能活得更久，至少有更长的健康寿命。

And, you know, again, this is something that's super interesting

而且，你知道，这又是一件非常有趣的事情

because if you did the study and you changed nothing about your

，因为如果你做了这项研究并且你的生活没有任何改变

life, would it have been worthwhile or would it have been pointless?

，那么它是值得的还是毫无意义的？

Well, it would have been pointless, I guess.

好吧，我想这毫无意义。

Pointless doing the study, right?

做研究没有意义吧？

Because there's no point in learning something unless you're going to

因为除非你将所学到的知识付诸

put that learning into action.

实践，否则学习是没有意义的。

And there you go, that brings us all the way back round to

好了，这让我们回到

setting New Year's resolutions.

制定新年决心的 方向

Yeah, there's no point in doing it unless you're going to follow through with it.

。 是的，除非你坚持到底，否则这样做是没有意义的。

Yeah, be consistent, take the right actions, set the goals, have milestones,

是的，保持一致，采取正确的行动，设定目标，设定里程碑，

follow through and make the changes that you desire to see in your life.

坚持下去，做出你希望在生活中看到的改变。

And try to enjoy the journey.

并尝试享受这段旅程。

It's something that I say to the people who enrol on my Fluency Programme is,

我对参加我的流利计划的人说的是，

you know, it shouldn't be all hard work.

你知道，这不应该都是艰苦的工作。

It should be fun and you have to make it a part of your daily life, which is

它应该很有趣，你必须让它成为你日常生活的一部分，这就是

why we really encourage community and we encourage people to get involved with our

为什么我们真正鼓励社区，我们鼓励人们参与我们的

Telegram app and it becomes much more of a social, enjoyable learning experience.

Telegram 应用程序，它变得更像是一种社交、愉快的学习体验。

And yeah, participation is such a key element in learning a language,

是的，参与是学习语言、

getting the practice that you need.

进行所需练习的关键要素。

Absolutely.

绝对地。

Okay.

Well, thank you, Nick.

好的。

嗯，谢谢你，尼克。

And, uh...

You're very welcome.

而且，呃... 不客气。

I wish you all the best for 2024 and for everybody listening, I do hope that this

我祝愿大家 2024 年一切顺利，也祝愿各位听众，我希望今年

year is your year to make a positive impact on your life and your learning.

是对你们的生活和学习产生积极影响的一年。

If you want to get involved with the things that we do over at English

如果您想参与我们在 English

Like a Native, then click on the link in the description to find out

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more about our Fluency Programme and other services we provide.

有关我们的流利度计划和我们提供的其他服务的更多信息。

Until next time, take very good care and goodbye.

直到下次，好好照顾并再见。

Goodbye.

再见。