Can I have your brain? The quest for truth on concussions and CTE | Chris Nowinski
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譯者: Thomas Tam
審譯者: Helen Chang
00:12
I'm Chris Nowinski, and odds are
if you've met me in the last five years
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我是克里斯·諾因斯基,
如果你在過去的五年中曾遇見我,
00:16
I've asked you, after a few minutes,
a bit of an odd question:
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很有可能在我們交談幾分鐘後,
我問了你一個怪問題:
00:20
Can I have your brain?
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「可以把你的大腦給我嗎?」
00:22
Now, it only seems like a strange question
if you don't know my story
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如果你不知道我的故事,
那就看似是個怪問題,
00:25
so please let me share it with you.
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讓我與你們分享吧。
00:28
I grew up outside of Chicago,
and I was an athlete
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我在芝加哥郊區長大,
是一名運動員,
00:31
and I was very lucky to get recruited
to play football at Harvard University.
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我很幸運地被哈佛大學錄取踢足球。
00:36
So that's me.
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那就是我。
00:37
And then after graduating,
like most Harvard graduates,
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畢業後,像大多數哈佛畢業生一樣,
00:40
I decided I wanted to join the WWE.
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我決定加入世界摔角娛樂圈。
00:43
So that's also me.
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所以那也是我。
00:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
當然你還記得 2002
和 2003 年的 Monday Night Raw,
00:47
Sure you remember me
from Monday Night Raw in 2002 and 2003,
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00:50
and I had a blast
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我造成極大的迴響,
00:52
playing what people
affectionately like to call
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扮演大家喜愛的常春藤名校勢利鬼
00:55
Chris Harvard, the Ivy League snob.
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克里斯·哈佛。
00:57
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:59
It was perfect for me.
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對我而言,那角色非常完美。
01:00
But unfortunately,
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但不幸的是,
01:02
I got kicked in the head
by my colleague Bubba Ray Dudley,
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我的頭給拍擋
布巴‧雷‧達德利的腳踢中了,
01:06
and I suffered a severe concussion.
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我遭受嚴重的腦震盪。
01:08
And it led to what became
permanent postconcussion symptoms:
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導致永久性的腦震盪症候群症狀:
01:12
constant headaches, inability to sleep,
depression, feeling in a fog.
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持續頭痛、難以入睡、
抑鬱、感覺迷迷糊糊。
01:17
And in that first year,
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而在第一年裡,
01:18
I tried to figure out
how could I make this pain go away.
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我試圖消除這痛苦,
01:22
And I wasn't getting
the answers I needed from doctors,
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醫生沒給我需要的答案,
01:24
and so I started digging
into the medical literature.
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所以我開始深入研究醫學文獻,
01:27
And I found there's
this whole story about concussions
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發現了關於腦震盪
01:30
that we weren't really being told.
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原先未知的完整事實。
01:31
So I decided to write a book about it,
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所以我決定為此寫一本書,
01:33
called "Head Games:
Football's Concussion Crisis"
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書名是「頭部遊戲:
美式足球的腦震盪危機」,
01:35
that came out in 2006.
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在 2006 年出版。
01:37
But in that process, I learned
it's not really just about concussions.
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但在寫作的過程中,
我了解到不僅是腦震盪而已,
01:40
I learned about a disease called
chronic traumatic encephalopathy or CTE.
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有一種稱為「慢性創傷性腦病」
或 CTE 的疾病存在。
01:45
What we used to call punch-drunk,
because we only knew about it from boxers.
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過去只知道是拳擊手的頭
受到重擊而醺醉的現象。
01:49
We knew that getting hit in the head
too many times with boxers
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由於拳擊手頭部被多次擊中,
01:53
would cause their brain to essentially
start to rot, to degenerate.
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會導致他們的大腦開始損壞及退化。
01:57
And they'd have symptoms
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他們會有一些症狀
01:58
like memory problems
and problems with cognition,
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像記憶和認知問題、
02:01
depression, impulse
control issues, aggression.
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抑鬱、衝動控制問題,及侵略性。
02:05
So basically, I got ...
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基本上,我得知......
我的受傷時間剛剛好,
02:09
I got injured at the right time,
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02:11
in which the first two NFL players
were studied for this disease.
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有兩名前 NFL 球員,
因為這種疾病而被研究。
02:15
And it turned out they both had it.
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結果證明他們都有 CTE。
02:17
The first was Mike Webster,
50 years old, already had dementia.
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第一人是邁克‧韋伯斯特,
50 歲已經患有失智症。
02:21
The second, Terry Long,
45 years old when he took his life.
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第二人是特里‧龍,
於 45 歲時自殺。
02:26
The medical examiner in Pittsburgh
decided to look at their brains
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匹茲堡的醫學檢查員
決定查看他們的大腦,
02:30
and found this disease.
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發現他們有這種病。
02:31
I wrote a chapter about it,
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我為此寫了一章,
02:33
and I thought people would make
a big deal out of it.
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以為人們會反應強烈。
02:36
But shockingly, even when
the first two cases came in positive,
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但令我震驚的是
即使有前面兩個陽性的病例,
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there was never a national
news story about this,
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從來沒有全國性的新聞
02:42
what's going on in football
with these cases of CTE.
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報導足球界的這些 CTE 案例。
02:45
So the book comes out,
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這本書上架了,
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not a whole lot is happening,
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沒多少事發生。
02:48
and one day I read the newspaper --
November 20, 2006.
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有一天我在讀報紙──
當時是 2006 年 11 月 20 日,
02:53
I find out that Andre Waters
just took his life.
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發現安德烈·沃特斯剛自殺。
02:57
Those of you who know football,
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對足球熟識的人,
02:58
Andre Waters was someone
I grew up watching.
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像我就是看著安德烈·沃特斯長大的,
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Former Philadelphia Eagles strong safety,
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他曾是費城老鷹隊堅固的防守後衛,
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[44] years old,
a Division II football coach
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在 44 歲擔任乙級足球教練時
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when he decided to put a gun to his head.
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舉槍自殺。
03:08
In the article they reminded me,
his nickname was Dirty Waters.
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報導中提及他的綽號是
「骯髒的沃特斯」,
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He was known for leading with his head,
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以頭先行防守而聞名,
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so I thought I'm just going to look up
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這使我想查查看
他是否曾經談及自己腦震盪的事。
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did he ever talk
about the concussions he had.
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我找到沃特斯在 1994 年的一段話:
03:17
And I found a quote from 1994
where Andre Waters said,
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03:20
"I stopped counting my concussions at 15.
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「15 次腦震盪後我就不再數了。
03:23
I wouldn't say anything, I'd just sniff
smelling salts and go back out there."
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(撞了頭後)我什麼都沒說,
僅聞聞嗅鹽提提神就又回球場。」
03:26
And I thought, I wonder
if he might have CTE, too.
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我納悶他是否也有 CTE,
03:30
If that might have contributed to whatever
made him choose to end his life.
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那會不會是造成他
選擇自殺的部分原因。
03:34
So I ended up calling the doctor
who did the first two studies, and I said,
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所以我後來打電話給之前
做兩項研究的醫生,我說︰
03:37
"Hey, I think you should
study Andre Waters."
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「嘿,我認為你應該研究
安德烈‧沃特斯。」
03:41
And he said, "I'd be happy to.
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他說:「我很樂意。
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The problem is, the first two cases
died in the county in which I work,
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但問題是,前兩次死亡個案
發生在我工作的郡,
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and I could study them as part of my job.
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我的工作範圍許可研究它們的情況。
03:49
I can't do that with Andre Waters,
he died in Florida.
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沃特斯在佛羅里達州去世,
我沒法處理。
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If you want me to study him,
you're going to have to figure out
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如果你想讓我研究他的情況,
就必須想辦法讓我取得他的大腦。」
03:55
how to get me the brain."
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03:57
So I said, "OK.
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我說:「好的。
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How does one get a brain?"
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如何取得大腦?」
04:03
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:05
So I racked my brain
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我絞盡腦汁,
04:07
and I thought, why don't I call
the medical examiner
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想到,何不打電話給法醫?
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who I think has the brain right now?
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大腦現在應該在他那裏。
04:11
So I called up the medical examiner
in Florida, and I said,
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我打電話給佛羅里達州的法醫,
說:「嘿,你不認識我,但
安德烈‧沃特斯的腦還在你哪兒嗎?」
04:14
"Hey, you don't know me, but do you still
have the brain of Andre Waters?"
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04:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:19
And he said, "Yes, I do."
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他說:「是的,在這裡。」
04:22
I said, "OK, are you going to
study him for CTE?"
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我說:「好,你打算研究
他有沒有 CTE 這方面的問題嗎?」
04:26
And he said no, in fact at that time
he didn't believe that was a real disease.
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他說不,當時他並不認為 CTE
是一種真正的疾病。
04:30
I said, "OK, if you're not,
do you mind if I have it?"
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我說:「好,如果你用不著,
你介意把這個腦給我嗎?」
04:34
And he said, "Well, young man,
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他說:「這樣子吧,年輕人,
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I can't give you the brain.
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我不能把這個腦給你。
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You need his family's permission.
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你需要得到他家人的同意。
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But if you do get the permission
of his next of kin,
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如果他的近親許可了,
04:45
I will release the brain to you."
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我就把大腦交給你。」
04:47
And I said, "Great!"
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我說:「太棒了!」
04:49
And then I realized I had to figure out
who his next of kin was and ask them,
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接著我意識到必須找出
他的近親是誰,詢問他們。
04:53
and it turned out it was
Andre Waters's 88-year-old mother.
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結果是沃特斯 88 歲的母親。
04:57
And I sat there, and I took
a breath and I thought,
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我坐在那裡,深吸一口氣,想︰
05:00
"Am I really going to cold-call
an 88-year-old grieving mother
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「真的要唐突地打電話
給一個兒子剛剛自殺,
88 歲的悲傷母親嗎?」
05:04
who just lost her son to suicide?"
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05:06
And almost everything in me
said, "Don't do it.
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我的內心掙扎著說:「不要這樣做。
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It's too much to put
this poor woman through,
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實在太過分,
會傷透一個可憐女人的心,
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she's been through so much already."
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她已經受夠了。」
05:15
But then this other voice in my head said,
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但是,我腦海中有另一個聲音說:
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"You know what?
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「知道嗎?
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If guys are killing themselves
from this disease
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如果人們正在因 CTE 而自殺,
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and we could study it to maybe
prevent this from happening in the future,
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我們可以通過研究
防止未來再發生同樣的事,
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sometimes you've just got to suck it up
and do something that's very hard."
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有時你要忍受痛苦,
做一些極困難的事情。」
05:29
So I called her.
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所以我打電話給她。
05:32
First time, nobody answered.
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第一次,電話沒人接聽。
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Second time, no one answered,
third... no voice mails.
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第二次,電話沒人接聽,
第三次......沒語音信箱。
05:37
The fifth time, I got an answer.
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第五次,有人接電話了。
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And thank God that Andre Waters's family
was so gracious about the call and said,
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感謝上帝,沃特斯的家人
如此親切地接電話,回答說:
「你知道嗎,我們想知道
安德烈發生了什麼事。
05:46
"You know what, we want to know
what happened to Andre.
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05:48
We want to know why he changed so much
in the last five years of his life."
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我們想知道在過去的五年中,
他的變化為何如此之大。」
05:52
And so we studied the brain,
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所以,我們研究那個腦,
05:55
and it turned out that he did have CTE.
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事實證明他確實患有 CTE。
05:59
He became the third NFL player
diagnosed with the disease.
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他成為第三位被診斷
患有該病的 NFL 球員。
06:02
This is what it looks like.
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腦看起來就是這樣。
06:03
He was somewhere between mild and severe.
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他處於輕度和重度之間。
06:06
OK, we have three
of three NFL players here.
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好的,我們有三名
NFL 的球員在這裡,
06:10
Maybe this needs to get
a little bit more serious.
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可能這需要更被重視些。
06:12
Maybe something's happening here.
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也許當中發生了一些事情,
06:14
So I ended up starting
the Concussion Legacy Foundation,
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所以我最終成立了
「腦震盪後遺症基金會」,
正式展開這項工作。
06:17
actually formalized the work,
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06:18
so it wasn't just
some guy calling for brains.
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我不僅是個打電話要腦的人,
06:20
And I searched the world.
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我還搜尋世界各地,
06:23
And I put together
the best research team I could find.
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盡我所能組成最好的研究團隊。
06:26
So we partnered with Boston University,
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我們與波士頓大學、
06:28
we partnered with scientists
at the VA here in Boston,
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波士頓美國退伍軍人事務部的
科學家合作,
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and we started a brain bank.
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我們起動了一個大腦儲存庫。
06:33
Turns out, if you want to know
how to cure degenerative brain disease,
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原來,如果你想知道
如何治療退行性腦病,
06:36
you have to start
by actually studying the brains.
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就必須從研究大腦開始。
06:38
At this point, we were the first center
in the world focused on CTE.
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我們是目前世界上第一個
專注於研究 CTE 的中心。
06:43
It just had not been studied formally.
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以前並沒有正式的研究。
06:46
And so we start this brain bank,
and it's my job to get the brains
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我們啟動這個腦庫,
我的工作是為相片中間的
安·麥基博士和腦庫取得腦。
06:49
for Dr. Ann McKee
and her brain bank, right in the middle.
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06:52
We also work with Dr. Bob Stern,
Dr. Robert Cantu,
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我們還與鮑勃‧斯特恩博士、
羅伯特‧坎圖博士合作,
06:56
truly my dream team
of scientists that I support.
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我支持這夢寐以求的科學團隊。
06:58
So my job is to get the brains.
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我的工作就是要獲取大腦。
07:00
And I was very successful
in those early years.
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早年我非常成功。
07:03
Since 2007 I've started every day
by reading the obituaries.
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從 2007 年起
我每天早晨閱讀訃文。
07:08
And it's a tough way to live.
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這是個艱難的生活方式,
07:10
And it's hard on me
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對我來說很難,
07:12
and it's even worse on these
poor families that I've been calling
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更可憐的是曾經在過去 10 年中
07:16
for the last 10 years,
to ask for their brains.
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接我電話的那些家庭,
被要求捐出他們親人的大腦。
07:19
And so early on in the process,
as it started to really eat away at me,
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早期的沉重工作使我精疲力竭,
07:22
I decided, you know what,
can I find another way
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換個角度想,能否找到另一種方式,
07:25
to get people to donate
their brains to this research?
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讓人們自願捐獻大腦作這項研究?
07:28
And I figured out,
what if we could create a culture
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如果我們要在這個國家
創造出捐贈大腦的文化,
07:32
of brain donation in this country?
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怎樣才辦得到呢?
07:33
What if it became normal for athletes
to donate their brain after they died?
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運動員去世後捐出他們的腦
可否成為一種常態?
07:37
And so what I started
was a brain donation registry.
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我從捐腦的註冊過程開始。
07:40
And I started asking athletes
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我開始詢問運動員
07:43
if they would publicly pledge
to donate their brain to science.
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可願公開承諾捐出大腦供科學研究。
07:47
And it started with, actually,
a hockey player in 2009.
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計劃始於 2009 年,
07:50
One of my first pledges
was a former Harvard hockey player,
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早期承諾的人之一是
前哈佛曲棍球運動員,
當時在國家冰球聯盟的諾亞‧韋爾奇。
07:55
Noah Welch, who was
in the NHL at the time.
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07:57
It was a slow start people understanding
what this was about.
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起初,人們才開始慢慢理解這事。
08:00
So when the news hit the front page,
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所以當頭版新聞出現:
08:02
"Noah Welch pledging
his brain to science,"
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「諾亞‧韋爾奇將大腦奉獻給科學」
08:04
he said he went
to the locker room the next day,
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之後的第二天,他走進更衣室,
08:06
one of his teammates
pulled him aside and said,
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一個隊友把他拉到一邊說:
「我聽說你把大腦
捐獻給科學研究。」
08:09
"Hey, I heard you're donating
your brain to science."
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08:11
And he said, "Yep."
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他說:「是的。」
08:12
And he said, "Wow.
How many games are you going to miss?"
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他說:「哇,你會錯過多少場比賽?」
08:15
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:17
True story.
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真實的故事。
08:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:24
But we've been remarkably successful --
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但我們非常成功,
08:28
over 2,500 athletes have signed up.
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已經有超過 2,500 名運動員承諾。
08:31
They get a brain-donation card
they keep in their wallet.
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他們得到一張可放在
錢包的大腦捐贈卡。
08:34
This is mine, I was
obviously first, it says 01.
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這張是我的, 顯然我是一號。
我會捐出我的大腦。
08:39
And I will donate my brain to this.
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我們很幸運有像布蘭迪‧查斯坦,
08:41
We've also been lucky
to have people like Brandi Chastain,
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08:43
the women's soccer icon,
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她是女子足球的偶像;
全國運動汽車競賽協會的
戴爾‧恩哈特;
08:45
NASCAR's Dale Earnhardt Jr.
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08:46
Just two weeks ago,
Hall-of-Famer Nick Buoniconti
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尼克·布尼康蒂就在兩週前
許諾捐出他的大腦,
08:48
who had been diagnosed with dementia,
signed up to pledge his brain.
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入選名人堂的他
已被診斷出患有失智症。
08:52
So it's been wonderful,
and the great thing about it
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這真是太棒了,
08:54
is that it has worked
in changing how we're able to get brains.
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棒在它改變了我們獲得大腦的方式。
08:58
So now, instead of me having to call,
more families call us.
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現在我不用向外打電話,
卻有更多的家屬打電話給我們,
09:01
And our phones ring off the hook.
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我們的電話鈴聲響個不停。
09:03
And so I can now focus
on taking this information,
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所以我現在能專注於獲取信息,
09:06
figuring out how do we work
towards a cure,
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弄清楚我們如何治療,
09:09
how do we work towards prevention,
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以及預防的方向,
09:11
and so my life has gotten a lot easier.
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所以我的生活變得輕鬆多了。
09:13
This is just some of the headlines
that we've able to get over the years
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這只是這些年來我們獲得的
頭條新聞中的一部分,
09:17
from athletes pledging their brain.
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關於承諾捐出大腦的運動員們。
09:20
The problem has been what we learned.
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我們研究腦所獲得的知識才是問題。
09:22
So when we started this,
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一開始
09:23
only 45 cases existed
in the world of this disease
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腦庫研究的這病
09:27
that had been studied in brain banks.
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世上只有 45 例。
09:30
Since then, we have acquired 500 brains
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從那時起,我們已經
獲得了 500 個大腦,
09:33
and found over 300 of them had CTE.
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其中 300 多人被發現患有 CTE 。
09:36
To put that in perspective,
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從這個角度看來,
09:37
the rest of the world has not studied
100 brains since we started this.
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從我們開始到現在,
國外研究過的腦不超過 100。
09:42
What we've seen though
is very frightening.
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而我們的發現非常駭人。
09:45
So some of you might have seen
the headline in July
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你們當中有些人可能看過七月份
09:48
in the "New York Times."
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「紐約時報」的頭條。
09:49
And a recent study we published,
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我們最近發表的研究報告顯示,
09:51
that of the first 111
NFL players we looked at
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最初 111 名被檢視的 NFL 球員,
09:54
110 were positive for this disease.
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有 110 個確診為 CTE 陽性;
09:57
Of the first 53 college
football players we looked at,
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我們看過的頭 53 名
大學足球運動員中,
10:01
48 had this disease.
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48 人有這病。
10:04
That's something
that's a very big concern to me.
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這是我非常擔心的事情。
10:07
And so now, I'm very much focused
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所以現在,我非常專注於
10:09
on what can we do
to actually treat this disease?
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能做些什麼來治療這病?
我們仍然無法
為活生生的人診斷 CTE,
10:14
We still can't diagnose
CTE in living people,
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10:17
we have no treatments
that are going to be coming
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在未來五年內
我們無法找出藥品治療方案。
10:20
out of the pharmaceutical industry
in the next five years.
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10:23
This is a long, long fight.
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這是一場漫長的戰爭。
10:25
But our Concussion Legacy Foundation
is here to not only facilitate this work,
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我們的腦震盪後遺症基金會,
不僅促進尋找治療方案,
10:30
and that's the long game,
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那是長期的工作;
10:31
but the short game is,
hey, we can prevent this.
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但眼前的是,我們能夠預防這疾病,
10:33
We can prevent this disease
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我們能夠預防這疾病,
10:35
if we just stopped hitting people
in the head so much.
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只要不再讓人腦常常受撞擊。
10:37
And frankly, we need to stop
hitting children in the head.
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坦率地說,我們不要再讓
兒童的腦袋受到撞擊。
10:40
Turns out, it's not a great idea
to hit a five-year-old in the head
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事實證明,讓一個五歲孩子的
腦袋每年被撞擊 500 次
10:43
500 times each year.
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並不是個好主意。
10:45
And it does actually
open up the door to this disease.
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那會引致這病。
10:47
And so, we've got
a lot of work ahead of us.
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所以,我們有很多工作要做。
10:51
But I have great hope that we're
on our way to curing this disease.
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我抱著極大的希望
我們正朝向治療這病的方向邁進。
10:56
But I hope you understand
my story a little more now.
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希望你們現在更了解我的故事了。
11:01
And now that we've gotten
to know each other a little bit better,
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我們現在已彼此了解多了些,
11:05
this is the time where I ask you,
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這個時刻我要問你︰
11:07
"Can I have your brain?"
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「把你的大腦給我,好嗎?」
11:09
Thank you very much.
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非常感謝。
11:10
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
11:13
Thank you.
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謝謝。
11:14
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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