Why we have an emotional connection to robots | Kate Darling

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Krystian Aparta
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譯者: Wilde Luo 審譯者: NAN-KUN WU
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There was a day, about 10 years ago,
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10 年前的某一天,
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when I asked a friend to hold a baby dinosaur robot upside down.
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我叫我的一個朋友 倒著抓住一只恐龍寶寶機器人。
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It was this toy called a Pleo that I had ordered,
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這是我訂購的玩具,叫做「普里奧」,
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and I was really excited about it because I've always loved robots.
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我對此很興奮,因為 我對機器人情有獨鍾。
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And this one has really cool technical features.
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這隻機器人使用了很酷的技術。
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It had motors and touch sensors
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它裝備了一些馬達和觸摸感應器,
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and it had an infrared camera.
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以及一個紅外線攝影機。
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And one of the things it had was a tilt sensor,
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此外,它還有一個傾斜感應器,
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so it knew what direction it was facing.
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所以它知道自己面對的方向。
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And when you held it upside down,
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當你倒過來抓住它,
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it would start to cry.
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它會開始哭。
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And I thought this was super cool, so I was showing it off to my friend,
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我覺得這真是酷斃了, 所以我自豪地向朋友展示它,
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and I said, "Oh, hold it up by the tail. See what it does."
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我說:「噢,抓它的尾巴, 吊著它,看它會怎麽樣。」
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So we're watching the theatrics of this robot
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然後我們看著這隻機器人
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struggle and cry out.
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裝模作樣地掙扎和哭喊。
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And after a few seconds,
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幾秒鐘之後,
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it starts to bother me a little,
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它開始令我心煩,
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and I said, "OK, that's enough now.
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我說:「好了,夠了。
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Let's put him back down."
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我們放下它。」
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And then I pet the robot to make it stop crying.
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接着我安撫這隻機器人, 讓它平靜下來。
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And that was kind of a weird experience for me.
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這件事讓我感覺十分怪異。
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For one thing, I wasn't the most maternal person at the time.
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一方面,我在那時 並不如母親一般慈愛。
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Although since then I've become a mother, nine months ago,
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直到九個月前,我成為了母親,
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and I've learned that babies also squirm when you hold them upside down.
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我才知道原來寶寶在被 倒著抓住時也會掙扎扭動。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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But my response to this robot was also interesting
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但是我對這隻機器人的 反應也耐人尋味,
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because I knew exactly how this machine worked,
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因為,即使我對這臺 機器的工作原理一清二楚,
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and yet I still felt compelled to be kind to it.
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但我仍然情不自禁地 對它生出惻隱之心。
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And that observation sparked a curiosity
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這個觀察結果激起了我的好奇心,
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that I've spent the past decade pursuing.
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讓我在過去這十年不斷探究:
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Why did I comfort this robot?
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為什麼我會安撫這隻機器人?
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And one of the things I discovered was that my treatment of this machine
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我的其中一個發現就是: 我對這臺機器的所作所為
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was more than just an awkward moment in my living room,
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不僅僅只是客廳裡一個尷尬的 小插曲,它說明了更多東西。
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that in a world where we're increasingly integrating robots into our lives,
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在如今,我們的生活 與機器人日益親密無間,
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an instinct like that might actually have consequences,
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類似上述行為的本能 可能會造成實在的影響,
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because the first thing that I discovered is that it's not just me.
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因為我的第一個發現就是: 我不是唯一一個這樣做的人。
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In 2007, the Washington Post reported that the United States military
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2007 年,華盛頓郵報報導, 美國軍方正在測試
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was testing this robot that defused land mines.
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一種拆除地雷的機器人。
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And the way it worked was it was shaped like a stick insect
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它是這樣工作的: 它的形狀類似於竹節蟲,
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and it would walk around a minefield on its legs,
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它會用自己的「腿」在雷區附近移動。
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and every time it stepped on a mine, one of the legs would blow up,
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每一次踩到地雷, 它都會被炸掉一隻腿,
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and it would continue on the other legs to blow up more mines.
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然後它會用其它的「腿」 繼續移動,引爆更多的地雷。
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And the colonel who was in charge of this testing exercise
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那位負責這項測試工作的上校
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ends up calling it off,
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最終取消了它。
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because, he says, it's too inhumane
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因為他說,看著這些傷痕累累的機器人
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to watch this damaged robot drag itself along the minefield.
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在雷區掙扎前行實在是慘無人道。
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Now, what would cause a hardened military officer
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那麽,又是什麼讓這位老練的軍官
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and someone like myself
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以及像我這樣的人
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to have this response to robots?
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對機器人做出這種反應?
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Well, of course, we're primed by science fiction and pop culture
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當然,我們受科幻小說 和流行文化的影響,
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to really want to personify these things,
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已經躍躍欲試要將這些事物人格化,
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but it goes a little bit deeper than that.
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但還不止於此。
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It turns out that we're biologically hardwired to project intent and life
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事實證明,對於身邊任何 看來像是自發做出的動作,
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onto any movement in our physical space that seems autonomous to us.
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生物天性決定了我們 會為其賦予意圖和生命。
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So people will treat all sorts of robots like they're alive.
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所以人們會把各種各樣的 機器人當成生命對待。
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These bomb-disposal units get names.
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這些炸彈處理單位被賦予了名字。
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They get medals of honor.
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它們被授予了榮譽勛章。
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They've had funerals for them with gun salutes.
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在它們的葬禮上,人們以禮炮致敬。
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And research shows that we do this even with very simple household robots,
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研究表明,甚至對於構造簡單的 家用機器人,我們也是如此,
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like the Roomba vacuum cleaner.
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例如「Roomba 吸塵器機器人」。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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It's just a disc that roams around your floor to clean it,
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它只是一個圓盤, 在地板上遊蕩並打掃,
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but just the fact it's moving around on its own
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但僅因為它自己四處移動,
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will cause people to name the Roomba
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也會讓人們親昵地幫它取名字,
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and feel bad for the Roomba when it gets stuck under the couch.
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當它被卡在沙發下時 還會給予同情。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And we can design robots specifically to evoke this response,
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並且我們能專門為此 來設計機器人,
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using eyes and faces or movements
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藉助眼睛、面部或者動作,
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that people automatically, subconsciously associate
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人們在潛意識裏
會自動將其與某種心情聯繫起來。
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with states of mind.
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And there's an entire body of research called human-robot interaction
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一系列「人與機器人互動」的研究
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that really shows how well this works.
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都表明了這種機制的運作多麼廣泛。
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So for example, researchers at Stanford University found out
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例如,史丹佛大學的研究者發現
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that it makes people really uncomfortable
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當要求人們去觸碰機器人的私處時,
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when you ask them to touch a robot's private parts.
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他們會感到非常不適。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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So from this, but from many other studies,
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因此,從很多研究看來,
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we know, we know that people respond to the cues given to them
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我們知道人們會對這些 逼真的機器人所帶來的暗示
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by these lifelike machines,
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作出反應,
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even if they know that they're not real.
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即使人們知道它們並非生命。
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Now, we're headed towards a world where robots are everywhere.
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我們正進入一個 機器人已無處不在的世界,
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Robotic technology is moving out from behind factory walls.
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機器人技術打破藩籬,開始走出工廠。
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It's entering workplaces, households.
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它進入了工作場所、家庭。
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And as these machines that can sense and make autonomous decisions and learn
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隨着這些能夠感知、 自主決策及學習的機器
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enter into these shared spaces,
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進入這些公共場所,
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I think that maybe the best analogy we have for this
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我認為,也許對此最好的類比就是
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is our relationship with animals.
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我們與動物之間的關係。
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Thousands of years ago, we started to domesticate animals,
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數千年前,我們開始馴養動物,
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and we trained them for work and weaponry and companionship.
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它們被我們馴化:付出勞動、 作為武器,並陪伴我們。
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And throughout history, we've treated some animals like tools or like products,
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在歷史上,我們把一些動物 當作工具或者產品,
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and other animals, we've treated with kindness
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而對於另一些動物,我們予以善待
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and we've given a place in society as our companions.
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並為它們保留一席之地, 成為我們的夥伴。
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I think it's plausible we might start to integrate robots in similar ways.
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我認為,我們以相似的方式 接納機器人,是合情合理的。
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And sure, animals are alive.
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當然,動物是活的,
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Robots are not.
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而機器人不是。
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And I can tell you, from working with roboticists,
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實話實說,與機器人 專家共事讓我得知
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that we're pretty far away from developing robots that can feel anything.
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我們還遠不足以開發出 能有任何感受的機器人。
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But we feel for them,
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但是我們同情它們,
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and that matters,
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這很重要。
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because if we're trying to integrate robots into these shared spaces,
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因為如果想要讓機器人 融入這些公共空間,
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we need to understand that people will treat them differently than other devices,
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我們需要瞭解:人們對待 它們與其他設備的方式會不同。
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and that in some cases,
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在某些情況下,
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for example, the case of a soldier who becomes emotionally attached
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例如,一位軍人對一同工作的機器人
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to the robot that they work with,
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產生了情感依賴,
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that can be anything from inefficient to dangerous.
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這可能造成種種後果, 小到不便,大到危險。
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But in other cases, it can actually be useful
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在其他情況下, 培養這種與機器人的情感聯結
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to foster this emotional connection to robots.
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是很有用處的。
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We're already seeing some great use cases,
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我們已經看到了一些很好的例子,
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for example, robots working with autistic children
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例如,輔導自閉症兒童的機器人
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to engage them in ways that we haven't seen previously,
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前所未有地吸引着孩子們,
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or robots working with teachers to engage kids in learning with new results.
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或者,與老師們共事的機器人 讓孩子們投入學習,取得了新成果。
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And it's not just for kids.
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這並非只限於孩子。
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Early studies show that robots can help doctors and patients
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早期的研究顯示, 在醫療保健領域中,
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in health care settings.
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機器人能夠幫助醫生和病人。
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This is the PARO baby seal robot.
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這是叫做「帕羅」的海豹寶寶機器人。
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It's used in nursing homes and with dementia patients.
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它被用於養老院中,陪伴失智症患者。
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It's been around for a while.
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這項服務已有一段時間了。
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And I remember, years ago, being at a party
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我還記得,幾年前在一個聚會上,
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and telling someone about this robot,
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我告訴某人關於這種機器人的事,
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and her response was,
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她的反應是,
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"Oh my gosh.
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「噢,天哪,
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That's horrible.
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這太可怕了。
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I can't believe we're giving people robots instead of human care."
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簡直難以置信,照顧人們的 竟然是機器人,而不是人工護理。」
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And this is a really common response,
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這是相當普遍的反應,
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and I think it's absolutely correct,
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而且我認為這也是人之常情,
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because that would be terrible.
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因為那樣做真的非常糟糕。
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But in this case, it's not what this robot replaces.
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但在這裏,機器人 所替代的並非人工護理。
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What this robot replaces is animal therapy
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機器人所替代的,是動物療法,
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in contexts where we can't use real animals
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在這種環境下, 我們不允許使用活的動物,
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but we can use robots,
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但我們可以使用機器人,
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because people will consistently treat them more like an animal than a device.
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因為人們永遠會把它們 當作動物,而不是設備。
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Acknowledging this emotional connection to robots
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隨着這些設備日益走近人們的生活,
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can also help us anticipate challenges
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承認與機器人的情感聯結
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as these devices move into more intimate areas of people's lives.
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同樣能夠幫助我們 預料到即將面臨的挑戰。
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For example, is it OK if your child's teddy bear robot
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例如,如果你孩子的泰迪熊機器人
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records private conversations?
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會記録私人談話,這合理嗎?
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Is it OK if your sex robot has compelling in-app purchases?
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如果你的性愛機器人強烈 要求購買內置服務,這合理嗎?
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Because robots plus capitalism
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因為當機器人遇上資本主義,
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equals questions around consumer protection and privacy.
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便會產生關於消費者保護 以及隱私方面的問題。
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And those aren't the only reasons
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這些並不是唯一造成
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that our behavior around these machines could matter.
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我們對於這些機器的 行為十分重要的原因。
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A few years after that first initial experience I had
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在最初那場
對恐龍寶寶機器人的 實驗數年之後,
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with this baby dinosaur robot,
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I did a workshop with my friend Hannes Gassert.
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我和朋友哈尼斯 · 哥薩特 開了個研討會。
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And we took five of these baby dinosaur robots
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我們拿了 5 個這樣的 恐龍寶寶機器人,
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and we gave them to five teams of people.
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分發給 5 組受試者。
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And we had them name them
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我們讓人們給它們起名字,
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and play with them and interact with them for about an hour.
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和它們一起玩耍、互動, 大約用了一個小時。
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And then we unveiled a hammer and a hatchet
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然後我們拿出一隻錘子和斧頭,
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and we told them to torture and kill the robots.
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我們要受試者折磨並殺死機器人。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And this turned out to be a little more dramatic
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實驗的結果比我們想象的
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than we expected it to be,
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更有戲劇性,
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because none of the participants would even so much as strike
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因為參與者甚至都不忍敲打
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these baby dinosaur robots,
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這些恐龍寶寶機器人,
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so we had to improvise a little, and at some point, we said,
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所以我們不得不臨時變卦, 後來只好告訴他們,
「好吧,如果摧毀了其他組的機器人, 你就能拯救自己的機器人了。」
08:30
"OK, you can save your team's robot if you destroy another team's robot."
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08:34
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:36
And even that didn't work. They couldn't do it.
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即使是這樣也沒有起色。 他們同樣做不到。
08:39
So finally, we said,
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所以最後,我們說,
08:40
"We're going to destroy all of the robots
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「我們要摧毀所有的機器人了,
08:42
unless someone takes a hatchet to one of them."
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除非某個人拿起斧頭 對其中一個下手。
08:45
And this guy stood up, and he took the hatchet,
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某位仁兄站起來了, 他拿著斧頭,
08:49
and the whole room winced as he brought the hatchet down
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當他砍中機器人的脖子時,
08:51
on the robot's neck,
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整個房間的空氣都仿彿凝固了。
08:53
and there was this half-joking, half-serious moment of silence in the room
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這就是當時在房間裏 因為這隻倒下的機器人
所帶來既幽默又嚴肅的時刻。
09:00
for this fallen robot.
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09:01
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:03
So that was a really interesting experience.
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這真是一段有趣的經歷。
09:06
Now, it wasn't a controlled study, obviously,
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當然,這不是一個具有控制組的研究,
09:09
but it did lead to some later research that I did at MIT
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但它確實導向了 我在麻省理工學院
和帕拉斯 · 南迪和辛西婭 · 布雷西亞 一起做的一些後續的研究,
09:12
with Palash Nandy and Cynthia Breazeal,
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09:14
where we had people come into the lab and smash these HEXBUGs
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我們當時讓人們進入實驗室 粉碎這些電子甲蟲,
09:18
that move around in a really lifelike way, like insects.
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它們像昆蟲一樣十分逼真地移動。
09:21
So instead of choosing something cute that people are drawn to,
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所以,與其選擇某種 吸引人們的可愛動物,
09:24
we chose something more basic,
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我們選擇了更為簡單的東西,
09:26
and what we found was that high-empathy people
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我們發現,富有同情心的人
09:30
would hesitate more to hit the HEXBUGS.
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在粉碎電子甲蟲時會更加猶豫。
09:33
Now this is just a little study,
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這只是一個小研究,
09:35
but it's part of a larger body of research
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但這也屬於一個更大範疇的研究,
09:37
that is starting to indicate that there may be a connection
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該研究開始表明: 在人們對同情之心的傾向
09:40
between people's tendencies for empathy
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和他們對於機器人的行為之間
09:42
and their behavior around robots.
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或許存在聯繫。
09:45
But my question for the coming era of human-robot interaction
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但對於未來人類和機器互動的時代,
09:49
is not: "Do we empathize with robots?"
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我想問的並不是「我們會對 機器人產生同情嗎?」
09:53
It's: "Can robots change people's empathy?"
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而是「機器人能夠 改變我們的同情心嗎?」
09:57
Is there reason to, for example,
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例如,
09:59
prevent your child from kicking a robotic dog,
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阻止你的孩子踢一隻機器狗,
10:03
not just out of respect for property,
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且並非出於對財產的尊重,
10:06
but because the child might be more likely to kick a real dog?
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而是因為如此孩子就更有可能 虐待真正的狗,這是否有道理?
10:10
And again, it's not just kids.
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並且,同樣不侷限於孩子。
10:13
This is the violent video games question, but it's on a completely new level
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這個問題源於暴力遊戲, 但它站在一個全新的角度,
10:17
because of this visceral physicality that we respond more intensely to
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因為這種自發的肢體 讓我們做出的反應
會比對螢幕上的圖片更強烈。
10:22
than to images on a screen.
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10:25
When we behave violently towards robots,
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當我們虐待機器人,
10:28
specifically robots that are designed to mimic life,
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尤其是那種被設計成 模仿生命的機器人,
10:31
is that a healthy outlet for violent behavior
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這是對暴力行為的正常發泄,
10:35
or is that training our cruelty muscles?
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還是在助長我們的暴戾習性?
10:39
We don't know ...
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我們不知道……
10:42
But the answer to this question has the potential to impact human behavior,
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但是這個問題的答案 能夠影響人類行為,
10:46
it has the potential to impact social norms,
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它能夠影響社會準則,
10:49
it has the potential to inspire rules around what we can and can't do
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它能夠啓發我們,對於 特定的機器人,哪些事能做,
10:53
with certain robots,
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哪些事不能做。
10:54
similar to our animal cruelty laws.
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與我們的「動物保護法」相似。
10:57
Because even if robots can't feel,
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因為即使機器人無法感知情感,
11:00
our behavior towards them might matter for us.
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我們對它們的行為 對我們或許很重要。
11:04
And regardless of whether we end up changing our rules,
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不論最後我們是否 改變了我們的準則,
11:08
robots might be able to help us come to a new understanding of ourselves.
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機器人或許能夠幫助我們 再一次全新地認識我們自己。
11:14
Most of what I've learned over the past 10 years
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我過去 10 年來 所瞭解的大部分內容
11:16
has not been about technology at all.
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並不是關於技術本身。
11:18
It's been about human psychology
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而是關於人類的心理、
11:21
and empathy and how we relate to others.
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同情心以及我們 如何與他人建立聯繫。
11:25
Because when a child is kind to a Roomba,
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因為當一個孩子和善相待 Roomba 機器人時,
11:29
when a soldier tries to save a robot on the battlefield,
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當一名軍人想在 戰場上拯救一名機器人時,
11:33
or when a group of people refuses to harm a robotic baby dinosaur,
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或者當一群人拒絶 傷害恐龍機器寶寶時,
11:38
those robots aren't just motors and gears and algorithms.
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這些機器人已不再是 馬達、齒輪和演算法。
11:42
They're reflections of our own humanity.
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他們都折射出我們人性的光輝。
11:45
Thank you.
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謝謝。
11:46
(Applause)
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