What if You Could Sing in Your Favorite Musician's Voice? | Holly Herndon | TED

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譯者: Winston Chung 審譯者: Shelley Tsang 曾雯海
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(Overlapping voices sing)
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(重疊的唱歌聲音)
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(Singing ends)
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(唱歌結束)
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
00:34
Hi, my name is Holly, and I’m an artist.
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嗨,我是荷莉,我是藝術家。
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That was my voice,
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剛剛那是我的聲音, 但我沒唱那個片段。
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but I didn’t sing that clip.
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00:40
I trained an AI on my own voice,
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我訓練人工智慧學習我的聲音,
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and now she can sing anything in multiple languages.
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現在她能用多種語言唱任何東西。
00:46
Her name is Holly+,
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她是荷莉+,
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and you just heard her perform “El Cant de la Sibilla,”
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剛才她表演的是 “El Cant de la Sibilla”,
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which is a traditional song arranged by Maria Arnal in Catalan.
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是由瑪麗亞‧阿納爾編曲 的嘉泰羅尼亞語傳統歌曲。
00:56
Not a language that I speak
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我不會說這種語言,
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and not a vocal tradition that I've trained in.
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也沒受過這種歌唱傳統的訓練。
01:01
Those melismatic runs are really difficult to hit.
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這種一字多音的 花唱風格相當困難。
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To show you Holly+'s full range, I'll also play an example in German.
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為了展示荷莉+的廣大能力, 讓我再播放一個德語的例子。
01:09
This is "Mack the Knife" by Brecht.
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這是希萊希特的《小刀麥基》。
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(Singing in German)
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(用德語唱歌)
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(Music ends)
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(音樂結束)
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Of course Holly+ can -- thank you.
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當然,荷莉+可以——謝謝你們。
01:30
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
01:33
Of course, Holly+ can also perform my own music,
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當然,荷莉+也可以 表演我自己的音樂,
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so here's an excerpt from my own song, "Frontier."
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以下這一段出自 我自己的歌曲《邊疆》。
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(Singing "Frontier" in overlapping voices)
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(重疊的聲音演唱《邊疆》)
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(Singing ends)
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(唱歌結束)
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Holly+ uses a process called timbre transfer,
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荷莉+使用的處理程序 叫做音質轉換,
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where the timbre, or sound quality of one sound,
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將音質,或聲音的品質,
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may be mapped onto the performance of another.
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投射到另一個表演。
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Timbre transfer is done by creating a machine-learning model of a sound.
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音質轉換需要建立 機器學習聲音的模型。
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In this case, it's my voice.
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在這個例子,是針對我的聲音。
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So I recorded a wide variety of phrases in my entire vocal range.
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我要錄下各式各樣的片段, 用到我的整個音域。
02:14
To be clear, this version of Holly+ is reading notes from a score.
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讓我澄清一下, 這版的荷莉+是從樂譜上讀取音符。
02:19
So I'll also play you an example of her singing in Spanish,
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所以也讓我播放一個例子, 是她用西班牙語唱
02:23
“Bésame Mucho” by Velázquez.
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維拉茲奎茲的“Bésame Mucho”。
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(Music: "Bésame Mucho")
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(音樂:“Bésame Mucho”)
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(Music ends)
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(音樂結束)
02:44
Thank you.
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謝謝。
02:46
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
02:47
I can't speak Spanish, by the way, so.
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順道一提,我不會說西班牙語。
02:51
Teaching an AI the sonic properties of one sound
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教導人工智慧一個聲音的音波特性,
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in order to generate an entirely new sound
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以產生出全新的聲音,
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is what I like to call "spawning."
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就是我所謂的「釀生」。
02:59
Spawning is what allows Holly+ to create a wide range of vocals
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釀生讓荷莉+創造出 我沒有唱過而且種類繁多的聲音,
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that I didn't sing
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03:04
from a set of recorded phrases that I did sing.
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基於一組我唱而錄下來的片段。
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I like to think of spawning as a kind of 21st-century corollary
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我認為釀生是個「取樣」音樂傳統 在二十一世紀的延伸,
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to the musical tradition of sampling,
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which had a really big impact on both music and intellectual property.
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而取樣對於音樂及智慧財產權 有相當大的衝擊。
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But I think spawning is far more exciting and potentially really weird.
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但我認為釀生更讓人興奮, 且可能相當怪異。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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So, for example, with sampling,
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比如,取樣通常是
複製並重混別人的錄音, 來創造新聲音。
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usually you copy and remix a recording by someone else to create something new.
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03:33
But with spawning, you can perform as someone else
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但釀生可以讓你扮演別人的表演,
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based on trained information about them.
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基於訓練好有關他們的資訊。
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And as an artist, this is making me rethink my own past work
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身為藝術家,這讓我 重新思考我自己過去的作品
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as not only my archive
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不僅是我個人的檔案,
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but potentially also I myself could become reanimated with AI.
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而且也可能靠人工智慧 讓我自己有新表演。
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This also opens up the question
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這就帶出了我們要如何處理 集體人類檔案的問題,
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of how we deal with a collective human archive
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if we can reanimate old media.
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如果我們能讓舊媒體有新的表演。
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It opens up really big ethical
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這會帶來道德 和智慧財產權的大問題,
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and intellectual property questions
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that require entirely new conceptual and legal frameworks.
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需要全新的觀念及法律架構。
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One way that I like to think about intellectual property
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我有時喜歡把智慧財產權想成 我所謂的身分扮演。
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I call identity play.
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So rather than limiting the use of my voice,
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與其限制我的聲音被使用,
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I'm creating instruments to allow as many people as possible
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我要創造樂器讓很多人可以
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to create music with me, and even as me.
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和我一起,甚至扮演我,創作音樂。
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That's why I've made versions of Holly+ freely available
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這就是為什麼我把許多版本的 荷莉+放在網路上免費給大家用。
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for anyone to use online.
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04:29
If I can allow people to play with my IP,
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如果能我讓大家用我的智慧財產演奏,
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my digital identity, my intellectual property,
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包括我的數位身分,我的智慧財產權,
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what might they come up with?
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他們可能會創造出什麼?
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Could someone else go on tour as me, with my permission?
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會不會有人得到我同意, 扮演我去巡迴演出?
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Could I be in a thousand different bands in multiple languages?
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我有沒有可能加入 一千種語言的樂團?
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And what would that even sound like?
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那聽起來會是什麼樣子?
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To be clear, musicians have been taught to be really protective over our IP,
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坦白說,音樂家一向被教導要 極力保護自己的智慧財產權,
那是有很有理由的。
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and that's for really good reason.
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But I'm trying to think of ways to make this new capability mutually beneficial.
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但我要想辦法使這種新能力 讓雙方都受益。
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So to allow people to use my voice
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要讓大家使用我的聲音,
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but still to maintain the ability to approve certain derivative works.
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但仍然保有可以核准 某些衍生作品的能力。
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So I invite you to consider, if given the opportunity,
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所以,我邀請大家想想, 如果給你機會,
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who would you like to perform through?
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你會想透過誰來表演?
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And can you imagine someone else performing you?
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你能想像別人演出你嗎?
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With that in mind,
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明白這些心思,
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I'd like to invite the incredible musician Pher to the stage.
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我要邀請了不得的音樂家Pher上台。
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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So today, Pher will be performing his own song, "Murky."
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今天,Pher要演奏他自己的歌“Murky”。
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And with one microphone you'll hear Pher's beautiful, natural voice.
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從這個麥克風,你會聽到 Pher美麗,自然的聲音。
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(Pher vocalizing)
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(Pher發聲)
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(Audience cheers)
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(觀眾叫好)
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And with this microphone,
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從另外這個麥克風,
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you'll hear a live version of Holly+ developed with Voctro Labs.
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你會聽到由Voctro實驗室開發的 直播版荷莉+。
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(Pher vocalizing in Holly+ voice)
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(Pher發出荷莉+的聲音)
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(Laughter and applause)
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(笑聲和掌聲)
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Take it away Pher.
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Pher,交給你了。
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(Pher singing "Murky")
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(Pher唱“Murky”)
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It gets so murky
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變得真昏頭 It gets so murky
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Loving what you know
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愛你知道的 Loving what you know
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But I, I keep on swimming,
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但我,我會繼續游, But I, I keep on swimming,
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I'm swimming
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我在游 I’m swimming
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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See, the problem is,
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看,問題是, See, the problem is,
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I don't know what to say
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我不知要說啥 I don’t know what to say
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When you come around
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當妳改變掉 When you come around
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Acting this way
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這樣的行為 Acting this way
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Oh oh
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喔喔 Oh oh
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And, yes, the truth is
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是的,實情是 And, yes, the truth is
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I show you every day
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我每天讓你看到 I show you every day
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Cause you love to stay
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因為你愛停留 Cause you love to stay
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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Living in all the pain
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活在痛苦裡 Living in all the pain
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And it gets so murky
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變得真昏頭 And it gets so murky
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Loving what you know
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愛你知道的 Loving what you know
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But I'll keep on swimming
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但我會繼續游, But I’ll keep on swimming,
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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And I've been calling out
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我曾經呼喊 And I’ve been calling out
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Calling out your name
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呼喊你的名 Calling out your name
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Deep down in my sleep
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在我沈睡中 Deep down in my sleep
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And I even memorized your face
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我牢記你的臉 And I even memorized your face
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So ain't no leaving' me
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為使你不離開我 So ain’t no leaving’ me
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And I just handle my biz
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我做我該做的事 And I just handle my biz
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And keep the train moving on
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也順勢而去 And keep the train moving on
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And you know what it is
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你知道啥 And you know what it is
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Is just you that
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只因為你是 Is just you that
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I'm choosing
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我選上的人 I’m choosing
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Cause it gets so murky
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變得真昏頭 Cause it gets so murky
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Loving what you know
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愛你知道的 Loving what you know
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And I'll
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我會 And I’ll
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I'll keep on swimming
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我會繼續游, I’ll keep on swimming,
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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And it gets so murky
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變得真昏頭 And it gets so murky
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Loving what you know
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愛你知道的 Loving what you know
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And I’ll,
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我會, And I’ll,
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I'll keep on swimming
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我會繼續游, I’ll keep on swimming,
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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Swimming
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游 Swimming
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I'm swimming
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我在游 I’m swimming
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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And I'll keep on swimming
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我會繼續游 And I’ll keep on swimming
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Swimming
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游 Swimming
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Further up the road
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更往前去 Further up the road
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(Vocalizing)
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(發聲)
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(Cheers and applause)
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(掌聲和叫好)
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Holly Herndon: Thank you.
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謝謝。
09:21
Thank you.
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謝謝。
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