Confessions of a recovering micromanager | Chieh Huang

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Yanyan Hong
00:12
What I'm really here to do today is talk to you about micromanagement
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今天我來這裡, 是要和大家談微觀管理,
00:15
and what I learned about micromanagement
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以及我在過去幾年 身為一名微觀管理者,
00:17
by being a micromanager over the last few years of my life.
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從微觀管理中學到的事。
00:21
But first off, what is micromanagement?
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但首先,微觀管理是什麼?
00:23
How do we really define it?
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我們要如何定義它?
00:25
Well, I posit that it's actually taking great, wonderful, imaginative people --
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我認為,微觀管理就是把很不簡單、
有想像力的人—— 比如在座的各位——
00:30
like all of you --
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00:31
bringing them in into an organization
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將他們帶入一個組織中, 接著壓碎他們的靈魂
00:33
and then crushing their souls --
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00:34
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)告訴他們要用多大的字體。
00:36
by telling them what font size to use.
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00:37
In the history of mankind,
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在人類史上,
00:39
has anyone ever said this?
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有沒有人說過這句話?
00:41
"John, we were never going to close that deal with Times New Roman,
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「約翰,用 Times New Roman 字體我們是不可能成交的,
00:45
but because you insisted on Helvetica --
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但因為你堅持用 Helvetica 字體——
00:48
bam!
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砰!虛線——
00:50
Dotted line --
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00:51
millions of dollars started to flow.
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數百萬美金就開始流動。 我們缺的就是這個!」
00:53
That was the missing piece!"
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00:54
No one's ever said that, right?
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沒人說過這種話吧?
當我們正受微觀管理時,
00:56
There's actually physical manifestations that we probably see in ourselves
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我們可能會在自己身上 看到具體化的呈現。
00:59
by being micromanaged.
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01:00
Think about the most tired you've ever been in your life, right?
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想想看你人生中最累的時刻。
01:03
It probably wasn't when you stayed the latest at work,
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可能不是你工作加班 成為最後一個離開的人,
01:06
or it wasn't when you came home from a road trip,
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可能不是你完成了一趟 道路旅行回到家的時候,
01:09
it was probably when you had someone looking over your shoulder,
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而是有人一直盯著你,
01:12
watching your each and every move.
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看著你做每一個動作。
01:16
Kind of like my mother-in-law when she's over right?
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有點像我岳母來拜訪的時候。
01:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:19
I'm like, "I got this," you know?
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我心裡嘀咕:「我可以好不好。」
01:21
And so there's actually data to support this.
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這背後其實有資料佐證。
01:23
There was a recent study in the UK.
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最近英國有一項研究。
01:25
They took 100 hospital employees,
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他們找了一百位醫院員工,
01:27
put an activity tracker on them
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在他們身上裝活動追蹤器,
01:29
and then let them go about their next 12-hour shift all alone,
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接著讓他們在接下來的 十二小時獨自執班,
01:33
just a regular 12-hour shift.
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只是一般的十二小時排班。
01:35
At the end of the shift, they asked them, "Do you feel fatigued?"
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在執班結束之後,他們問員工: 「你們覺得疲勞嗎?」
01:38
And what they found was actually really interesting.
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他們的發現十分有趣,
不見得是移動最多的人 會覺得最疲勞,
01:41
It wasn't necessarily the people who moved the most
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01:43
that felt the most fatigued,
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01:44
but it was the folks that didn't have control over their jobs.
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反而是無法控制自己工作的那些人。
01:49
So if we know that micromanagement isn't really effective,
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所以,如果我們知道 微觀管理不是很有效,
01:52
why do we do it?
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為什麼我們還要用它?
01:54
Is it that the definition is wrong?
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是定義有錯嗎?
01:56
I posited that micromanagement
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我認為,微觀管理
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is just bringing in great, wonderful, imaginative people
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只是把很不簡單、 有想像力的人帶進來,
02:01
and then crushing their souls,
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接著壓碎他們的靈魂,
02:02
so is it that we actually want to hire --
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所以我們是否其實是想要僱用——
02:04
deep down inside of us --
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內心深處的想法——
02:06
dull and unimaginative people?
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無聊又沒想像力的人?
02:09
It's one of those questions you probably don't even need to ask.
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這種問題是不用問也知道答案的。
就像:「你希望你的行李 在機場被偷嗎?」
02:12
It's like, "Do you want to get your luggage stolen at the airport?"
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可能不想,但從來沒被問過吧?
02:15
Probably not, but I've never been asked, right?
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02:17
So has anyone asked you, as a manager,
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若你是管理者, 是否有任何人問過你:
02:20
"Do you want to hire dull and unimaginative people?"
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「你是否想要僱用無聊 又沒想像力的人?」
02:22
So, I don't know, this is TED, we better back it up with data.
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我不知道,這裡是 TED, 我們最好用資料來佐證。
02:25
We actually asked hundreds of people around the country --
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我們真的去問了全國各地的數百人——
02:28
hundreds of managers across the country --
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全國各地的數百名管理者——
02:30
do you want to hire dull and unimaginative people?
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你是否想要僱用無聊 且沒有想像力的人?
02:34
Alright, it's an interesting question.
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好,這是個有趣的問題。
02:35
Well, interesting results as well.
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嗯,結果也很有趣。
02:37
So, 94% said no --
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94% 的人說不(笑聲)——
02:38
(Laughter)
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我們不想要僱用無聊 且沒有想像力的人。
02:40
we don't want to hire dull and unimaginative people.
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02:43
Six percent probably didn't understand the question --
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6% 可能是不了解問題——
02:45
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:47
but, bless their hearts,
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但,好傢伙,
02:48
maybe they do just want to hire dull and unimaginative people.
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也許他們真的想要僱用 無聊且沒想像力的人。
但 94% 說他們不想,
02:51
But 94 percent said they did not, and so why do we do this still then?
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所以為什麼我們仍然這麼做?
02:55
Well, I posit that it's something really, really simple
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我認為答案非常非常簡單,
02:57
that all of us deep down inside know and have actually felt.
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是我們所有人的內心深處 都知道且感覺得到的。
03:01
So when we get hired into an organization --
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當我們被僱用進入一個組織——
03:03
it could be a club, it could be a law firm,
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可能是俱樂部,可能是法律事務所,
03:05
it could be a school organization, it could be anything --
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可能是學校組織,什麼都有可能——
03:09
no one ever jumps to the top of the totem pole, right?
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沒有人會直接跳到最上級,對吧?
03:12
You start at the very bottom.
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你要從最基層做起。
03:13
Doing what?
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做什麼?
03:15
Doing work.
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做工作。
03:16
You actually do the work, right?
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你真的要做工作,對吧?
03:18
And if you're really good at doing the work,
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如果你真的很擅長做工作, 你會得到什麼獎賞?
03:20
what do you get rewarded with?
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更多的工作,對吧?
03:22
More work, right?
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03:23
Yeah, that's right, you guys are all great micromanagers.
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是的,你們這些人全都是 很棒的微觀管理者。
03:26
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)你要做更多工作,
03:27
You do more work,
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03:28
and then pretty soon, if you're really good at it,
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接著,很快的, 如果你真的很擅長它,
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you do a little bit of work still,
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你仍然要做一點工作,
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but actually, you start to manage people doing the work.
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但,其實,你會開始 管理做工作的人。
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And if you're really good at that, what happens after that?
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如果你很擅長管理, 之後會發生什麼事?
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You start managing the people who manage the people doing the work,
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你開始要管理那些 管理做工作的人的人,
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and it's at that point in time,
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就在那個時間點,
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you start to lose control over the output of your job.
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你會開始無法控制你工作的產出。
03:49
I've actually witnessed this firsthand.
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我真的親自目賭過。
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So, I started a company called Boxed in our garage,
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我在我們的車庫創立了 一間公司,叫做 Boxed,
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and this was it -- I know it doesn't seem like much --
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就是它——我知道 它看起來不怎麼樣——
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you know, there's a pressure washer in the back --
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後面其實有一台壓力清洗裝置——
03:59
this is "living the dream."
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這是「活在夢想中」。
04:01
And my wife was really proud of me when we started this,
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我們剛創立時, 我太太對我感到很驕傲,
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or that's what she said, she was really proud of me --
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或是至少她說 她對我感到很驕傲——
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and so she would give me a hug, and I'm pretty sure she had her phone up
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她會給我一個擁抱, 我很確定她還拿著手機,
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and she was thinking, "Oh, is John from Harvard still single?"
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且她在想:「喔, 哈佛的約翰還單身嗎?」
04:13
It was kind of like a lemonade stand gone wrong in the beginning,
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這有點像是檸檬水攤子 一開始就出了差錯,
但我們卻跑出來說 行動商務將會變得很大,
04:16
but we actually went up and said mobile commerce is going to be big,
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04:19
and actually consumer packaged goods were going to change over time,
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且快速消費品將會隨著時間改變,
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so let's take these big, bulky packs that you don't want to lug home --
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所以,我們把這些你其實 不想吃力搬回家的龐大包裝——
不是兩件裝的奧利奧, 是 24 件裝的,
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so not the two-pack of Oreo cookies but the 24-pack
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04:28
and not the 24-pack of toilet paper but the 48-pack --
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不是 24 件裝的廁所衛生紙, 而是 48 件裝的——
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and let's ship it to you much like a warehouse club would do
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我們把它寄給你, 就像倉儲會員店會做的那樣,
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except they wouldn't ship it to you.
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除了它們不會把它寄給你。
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So that's what we basically did.
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基本上,那就是我們做的。 我們有台很慢的印表機,
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We had a really slow printer
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04:39
and what we did was actually say, "OK, this printer is taking forever, man.
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我們做的是說:「這台印表機 要一輩子才會印出東西來。
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Let's scribble something that would delight the customer
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我們在這些發票的背後隨便寫些 能討好消費者的東西吧。」
04:45
on the back of these invoices."
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所以,我們會說: 「嘿,保持微笑。」
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So we'd say, "Hey, keep smiling," you know?
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04:49
"Hey, you're awesome,"
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「嘿,你很棒。」
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or, "Hey, enjoy the Doritos,"
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或「嘿,好好享用多力多滋。」 或「我們也愛開特力。」
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or, "We love Gatorade, too."
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04:54
Stuff like that.
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諸如此類。
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And so it started breaking up the monotony of the job as well
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所以,工作的單調性也開始被打破,
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because I was picking and packing all of the boxes,
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因為我在撿貨和包裝所有的盒子,
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and that's all you basically do for eight, nine, 10, 12 hours a day
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基本上,你一天八小時、十小時、
十二小時都坐在車庫裡做這些。
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when you're sitting in the garage.
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And so an interesting thing happened.
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於是,一件有趣的事發生了。
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So we actually started to grow.
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我們真的開始成長了。
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And so, you know, over the last --
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所以,在過去——
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actually just even 36 months after that,
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其實,即使是在那之後 36 個月,
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we ended up selling hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stuff,
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我們就銷售出數億美元的東西,
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and we actually grew really, really quickly.
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我們真的成長得很快。
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But during that time, my role started to change, too.
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但在那段時間, 我的角色也開始改變了。
05:25
So, yes, I was the CEO in the garage;
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是的,我是車庫裡的執行長;
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I was picking and packing, doing all the work,
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我做撿貨和包裝等等所有的工作,
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but then I graduated
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但接著,我畢業了, 真的開始管理別人,
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to actually managing the people who picked and packed,
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讓他們來撿貨和包裝,
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and then pretty soon I managed the people
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接著,很快,我所管理的人
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who managed the people picking and packing.
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是在管理撿貨和包裝的人的人。
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And even now, I manage the C-staff who manage the departments
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即使現在,我管理的是最高層的人,
他們要管理部門,
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who manage the people who manage the people picking and packing.
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部門要管理那些 管理撿貨和包裝的人的人。
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And it is at that point in time, I lost control.
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所以,在那個時點,我失去了控制。
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So I thought, OK, we were delighting all of these customers with these notes.
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我心想,我們用這些字條 來讓客人感到很愉快。
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They loved them, but I can't write these notes anymore,
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他們很愛這些字條, 但我不能再寫字條了,
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so you know what I'm going to do?
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你們知道我打算怎麼做嗎?
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I'm going to tell these folks how to write these notes.
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我要告訴這些人如何寫字條。
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What pen to use, what color to use, what you should write,
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要用什麼筆、要用什麼顏色、 要寫什麼內容、
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what font you should use,
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要用什麼字體、
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don't mess up the margins,
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邊際留白很重要、
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this has to be this big, this has to be that big.
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這東西要這麼大、這東西要那麼大。
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And pretty soon this goal of raising morale
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很快,這個靠著打破 配送中心內的單調性
06:10
by breaking up the monotony in the fulfillment center
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來提升士氣的目標,
就變成了微觀管理, 大家開始向人力資源處抱怨。
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actually became micromanagement, and people started complaining to HR.
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It's like, "Dude, this CEO guy has got to get out of my hair, OK?
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比如:「老兄,這個執行長 能不能別再來煩我了?
06:19
I know how to write a damn note."
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我知道要怎麼寫該死的字條。」
06:21
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:22
So it was at that point in time, we said, "OK, you know?
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在那個時點,我們說: 「好,你知道嗎?
06:25
We hired these great, wonderful people,
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既然我們僱用了這些很不簡單的人,
06:28
let's give them the mission that's 'delight the customer,'
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我們就來分派
「讓客人愉快」的任務給他們,
06:31
let's give them the tool to do so, and that's these notes -- have at it."
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我們提供他們必要的工具, 就是這些字條——來做吧。」
06:35
And so what we found was actually pretty startling.
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我們的發現十分驚人。
06:37
Some folks actually took the notes
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有些人真的拿了這些字條,
06:39
and actually started drawing these really ornate minimurals on them.
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且開始在上面畫一些小小的裝飾。
06:43
When folks ordered diapers, you'd get really fun notes like this:
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有人訂尿布時, 會收到像這樣的有趣字條:
06:46
"Say 'hi' to the baby for us!"
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「替我們向寶寶說聲『嗨』!」
06:48
And you know, the next size up, if they bought a bigger size,
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如果客人買了更大尺寸的尿布,
06:51
they'd write, "Growing up so fast."
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他們會寫:「好快就長大了。」
06:53
And so people really, really took to it.
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大家真的喜歡它。
06:57
But it was at that time that it also went off the rails a few times.
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但在那時,真的發生了幾次狀況。
07:00
And so we had someone just writing, "Thx, thx," all the time,
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我們有個人,永遠只會寫 「謝了,謝了」,
07:03
and it's like, "Alright, dude, my boss used to write that to me,"
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就好像是:「老兄,我老闆 以前就只會寫那些給我。」
07:06
so, let's not write "Thx" anymore.
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可不可以不要再寫「謝了」。
07:09
But you also had interesting things on the other side.
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但另一方面也會有很有趣的事。
07:11
People got a little too creative.
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大家變得太有創意。
07:13
And so, like I said before, we sell everything in bulk:
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我之前說過,我們所有的東西 都是大型量販包:
07:17
the big packs of diapers, big packs of toilet paper,
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大型量販包尿布、 大型量販包的廁所衛生紙、
07:19
the big packs of Doritos and Oreo cookies.
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大型量販包的 多力多滋和奧利奧餅乾。
07:23
We also sell the big packs of contraception,
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我們也賣大包的避孕用品,
07:26
and so --
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所以——
07:27
this is getting a little hairy.
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開始變得有點難搞。
07:29
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:30
So we sell the 40-pack of condoms, right?
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我們會賣四十包大包裝的保險套。
07:34
We're all adults in this room -- 40-pack of condoms.
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這的都是成年人—— 四十包大包裝的保險套。
07:37
So, someone ordered four 40-packs of condoms --
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有人訂購了四組四十包 大包裝的保險套——
07:41
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)他們只訂購這些,沒別的,
07:42
And that's all they ordered,
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07:44
so, 160 condoms,
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所以,160 個保險套,
07:46
the packer was like, "I know how to delight the customer."
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包裝者就說:「我知道 要如何讓客人愉快。」
07:49
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:51
"This guy ..."
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「這個傢伙……」
07:52
This is what they wrote:
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這是他們寫的:
07:54
[Everyone loves an optimist]
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〔大家都愛樂觀的人。〕
07:56
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:57
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:01
We didn't know whether to fire him or to promote him, but he's still there.
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我們不知道該開除他 還是升遷他,但他還在那裡。
08:04
So, "Everyone loves an optimist."
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所以,「大家都愛樂觀的人。」
08:06
But here is where it went a little bit off the rails
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但就是在這次出了點差錯,
08:11
and I felt a little bit conflicted in all of this.
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讓我覺得這一切有點矛盾。
08:14
And --
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且——
08:16
oh, there's a really bad typo --
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喔,有打錯字(CONFLIC"T")——
08:17
so if there was only a red T-E-D on stage that I counted on being here,
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如果我這裡的台上只有 紅色的 T-E-D 字樣,
08:22
it wouldn't be a typo, right?
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就不會打錯字了,對吧?(笑聲)
08:24
(Laughter)
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08:25
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:26
I promised you I had a really bad sense of humor,
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我向各位保證,我的幽默感很差,
08:29
and now I'm gratifying that.
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現在我很滿足。
08:30
So I told you. But I really was conflicted, right?
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但我真的感到很矛盾。
08:33
At this point in time, we started doing things
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在這個時點,我們開始做一些
08:35
that actually weren't part of our core mission
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其實不屬於我們核心任務的事,
08:37
and people started failing at it.
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且大家開始做不好。
08:39
And so, I thought, should we let them fail?
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所以,我心想,我們應該 要讓他們失敗嗎?
08:43
Should we continue to let them do this?
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我們應該要讓他們持續做下去嗎?
08:45
I don't know --
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我不知道——
08:46
I didn't know at that moment,
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那時我不知道,
08:48
but I thought this:
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但我這樣想:
08:50
Is failure really that bad?
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失敗真的那麼不好嗎?
08:53
I'm not saying we should celebrate failure.
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我的意思並不是我們要慶祝失敗。
08:55
There's a lot of talk in Silicon Valley that says, "Let's celebrate failure."
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矽谷常常會聽見這種說法: 「我們來慶祝失敗吧。」
08:59
No, I don't know if we would go all the way there,
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我不知道我們是否會做到那樣,
09:01
because like, in our board meetings,
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因為,在我們的董事會議上,
09:03
our board members are never like, "Hey, Chieh, you failed last quarter,
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董事們從來不會說: 「嘿,傑,你上一季失敗了,
09:06
keep doing that, buddy, OK?"
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繼續保持下去,伙計。」
09:08
No one's ever said that.
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從來沒有人這樣說。 如果你是那種組織的一員,
09:09
If you're part of an organization like that,
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09:11
give me a call, I want to sit in on that meeting.
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打通電話給我, 我想要參與那種會議。
09:13
In private, I don't think many people celebrate failure,
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私底下,我不認為 有很多人會慶祝失敗,
09:16
but failure, I posit, is actually pretty necessary
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但我認為,長期來看,
09:19
for the folks truly in the long-term,
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失敗是必要的,
09:21
for the smart and imaginative people
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這樣子,聰明、有想像力的人
09:23
truly trying to fulfill the mission that you give them at hand.
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才會真正試著去完成 你給他們的任務。
09:27
And so failure can actually be seen as a milestone
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所以,失敗可以被視為是里程碑,
09:30
along that mission towards success.
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朝向成功完成任務 前進過程的里程碑。
09:33
And if the downside of not micromanaging
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如果不做微觀管理的不利面
09:35
is potentially this perceived notion that you might fail more often,
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是覺得你有可能會更常失敗,
09:38
and if it's really not that bad,
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如果失敗真的沒有那麼不好,
09:41
what is the upside?
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有利面是什麼?
09:42
Well, we saw the upside and it's pretty great.
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我們看到了有利面,且它很棒。
09:44
We tasked our engineers and said,
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我們給工程師任務並說:
09:46
"Hey, some of our fulfillment centers cost millions of dollars to build,
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「我們的一些配送中心 建造的成本要數百萬美元,
09:49
there's miles and miles of conveyor,
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有數英哩的傳輸裝置,
09:51
and so, can you do the same thing,
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你們能否做到同樣的事,
09:53
can you make them efficient without spending millions of dollars?"
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你們能否做到更有效率, 且不用花數百萬美元?」
09:56
So, they got to work:
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他們就去努力了:
09:58
they actually did this -- this is not photoshopped,
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他們真的做了這個—— 這不是用軟體修圖過的,
10:00
the guy is really grinding.
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這個傢伙真的在磨東西。
10:02
They built an autonomous guided vehicle.
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他們建造了一台自動引導的車子。
10:04
We didn't tell them what to build, what format it needed to be.
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我並沒有告訴他們要做什麼, 要是什麼形式。
他們花了九十天做出了原型機:
10:07
In 90 days they produced the first prototype:
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10:09
powered off Tesla batteries, stereoscopic cameras, lidar systems.
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用特斯拉的電池供電, 有實體鏡攝影機,光達系統。
10:12
It basically replicates the efficiency of a conveyor belt
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基本上,它複製了輸送帶的效率,
10:15
without the actual capex of a conveyor belt.
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但不用真的投入資金打造輸送帶。
10:18
So it doesn't actually just stop with engineers.
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並不只有工程師這麼做。
10:20
Our marketing department --
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我們告訴行銷部門:
10:22
we told them, "Hey, get the word out; do the right thing."
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「嘿,把話傳出去;做對的事。」
10:25
We have this wonderful lady, Nitasha, on the marketing team.
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我們的行銷團隊有位 很棒的女士,妮塔莎。
10:28
She stopped me in the morning,
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早上,她攔住我,說:「傑, 『粉紅稅』要怎麼辦?」
10:29
she's like, "Chieh, what are we doing about the pink tax?"
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我繼續去弄我的咖啡,然後坐下,
10:32
I went and got my coffee, I sat down,
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我說:「好,妮塔莎, 粉紅稅是什麼?」
10:34
I said, "OK, Nitasha, what is this pink tax?"
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她就告訴了我,這很有趣。
10:36
And so she told me, it's really interesting.
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有些人可能知道,在美國 32 州,
10:38
So, some of you might know that in 32 states across America,
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10:41
we actually charge a luxury goods tax on women's products
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我們會針對女性產品收取奢侈品稅,
10:44
like feminine care products,
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比如女性照護產品,
10:46
so tampons and pads are taxed like luxury goods items.
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所以,衛生棉條和衛生棉 會被當作是奢侈品來收稅。
10:48
So I would never dare call my wife --
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我絕對不敢打電話給我太太—— 或是她打給我,說:
10:50
or if she called me and said, "Hey, hon, bring some pads on the way home,"
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「嘿,親愛的, 回家時買些衛生棉。」
而我說:「寶貝,你知道嗎, 現在有貿易戰爭,經濟狀況不好,
10:54
and I said, "Babe, you know, there's a trade war going on,
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10:56
the economy's not that good,
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所以這個月不能買奢侈品, 但我保證下個月——
10:58
so no luxury goods this month but next month I promise --
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11:01
(Laughter)
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我會看看狀況。」
11:02
I'll take a look at it."
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我很快就會變單身,對吧?
11:03
I'd be single pretty quickly, right?
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11:05
But what's super interesting is now --
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但,超有趣的是,現在——
11:07
we didn't tell them what to do --
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我們沒告訴他們怎麼做——但現在,
11:09
but now, working with finance, they rebate the tax
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他們和財務合作做折現,
11:11
back to customers all around the country that we unfairly have to collect.
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把我們不公平取得的稅款 退回給全國各地的客人。
11:15
And so at this point in time, you might be thinking,
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所以,在這個時點,你們可能在想:
11:17
"OK, what is the real, real upside of not micromanaging?"
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「所以不做微觀管理的 真正有利面是什麼?」
11:21
and it's this:
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它就是:
11:23
I didn't do any of these projects.
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這些計畫都不是我做的。 我沒有做自動引導的車子。
11:25
I didn't make the AGV.
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11:26
I didn't do the "Rethink the Pink Tax" campaign.
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我沒有做「重新思考粉紅稅」活動。
11:28
I didn't do any of this,
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都不是我做的,
11:30
but I'm standing here on a TED stage taking all the credit for it.
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但我在這裡,站在 TED 舞台上,
搶了所有的功勞。
11:33
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:36
"This guy does nothing and takes all the credit for it.
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「這個傢伙什麼都不用做, 功勞都是他的。
11:39
He's a real CEO, this guy. He's really got it down."
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這個傢伙是真正的執行長。 他真的做到了。」
11:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
11:43
But the reality is this.
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但,現實是:
11:45
I don't have the CEO thing down 100 percent pat,
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我並沒有完全精通執行長的工作,
11:47
but I've actually learned the most fundamentally challenging lesson
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但我真的學到了我所學過在根本上
11:52
I've ever had to learn,
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最有挑戰性的一課,
11:54
and that's this.
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這一課就是:
11:56
There is only one solution to micromanagement ...
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微觀管理只有一種解決方案……
11:59
and that's to trust.
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那就是信任。
12:01
Thank you.
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謝謝。
12:02
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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