A Lens on Georgia’s Survival in the Shadow of a Superpower | Daro Sulakauri | TED

翻译人员: Yijun Gu 校对人员: Lening Xu

It’s very confusing and unsettling to wake up

在困惑与不安中醒来，

and have only 72 hours to make that really hard decision

仅仅 72 小时的时间， 就要做出艰难的决定，

to either leave your house or stay on the Russian occupied territory.

是要离开自己的家， 还是留在俄罗斯占领的土地。

Overnight, the border has been unofficially redrawn

一夜之间，边境已被 入侵部队非正式重新划定。

by the occupied forces.

Your bedroom is now located in a different country,

你的卧室已经位于 另一个国家，

while your living room and kitchen

而客厅和厨房

are still in the country where you fell asleep.

还依旧在你入睡时的国家。

The borders are not marked,

新的边境线还没标识出来，

so you might end up being kidnapped or detained by the Russian-backed forces.

你最终可能会被俄罗斯武装 人员绑架或拘留。

Director: Is that a reality for many people?

主持人：这是大多数人面临的现状吗？

Daro Sulakauri: It is a reality for many people in Georgia.

达罗·苏拉卡里: 这是许多 格鲁吉亚人面临的现状,

In fact, about 20 percent of Georgia is occupied by Russia.

事实上，约有 20% 格鲁吉亚领土 被俄罗斯占领。

Georgia is not heard or seen in the world,

许多人不曾听说、 也不曾见过格鲁吉亚，

and many don't even know the location of the country.

大多数人都不知道 这个国家地处何方，

It's important to know what is going on today in Georgia

了解目前格鲁吉亚 所发生的一切至关重要，

because yeah, it happens in one region,

因为，尽管这些事发生在这片区域，

but you never know when it's going to happen in your country

但你们永远不会知道何时，

or in your region.

你们所在的国家或地区也会遭受这些。

So we have to pay more attention.

所以你们需要提高警惕，

My name is Daro Sulakauri.

我叫达罗·苏拉卡里，

I'm a Georgian photojournalist.

是一名格鲁吉亚摄影记者。

I started taking pictures when I was 14.

我从 14 岁开始拍摄，

I was talking with my camera.

我一直随身带着我的照相机，

It was like an intermediary of me expressing myself.

它是我表达自己的媒介，

I had like a turning point

我人生的转折，

when I did my first photo project on Chechen refugees.

是在第一次拍摄车臣难民照片时。

My great grandmother was a Chechen woman,

我的曾祖母是车臣人，

and I was always told stories about her.

我一直听说她的故事。

And during the time there was this stereotype on Chechens in Georgia,

当时，格鲁吉亚人对车臣人 总有一种刻板印象，

that they were all like criminals and terrorists.

认为车臣人都是 罪犯或恐怖分子。

And I wanted to destroy the stereotype.

而我想打破这种不好的印象。

When I finished the story, I got emails from people saying that,

当我完成采访， 我收到人们的邮件，他们说，

thank you for showing Chechens in a different way.

谢谢你用不同的方式 展示车臣人民。

And so I think that was the moment I realized what power photography had

我认为在那一刻， 我才意识到摄影的力量，

and how it can really change consciousness in people

以及摄影如何改变世人的想法，

and let them think differently.

如何引导人们换位思考。

From that moment, I concentrated on stories in my country

从那时候起，我开始专注于 自己国家的新闻，

that touched on taboo topics such as early marriages

这些新闻涉及到禁忌话题， 例如早婚，

and conditions faced by mine workers,

矿工面临的困境，

stories about minorities,

少数民族的故事，

post-Soviet health care system that created pandemic of stolen babies,

后苏联时期的医疗保健系统 导致的婴儿偷窃泛滥，

and how conflict with Russia led to the surreal border dynamics

以及之前描述的，与俄罗斯冲突 导致的空前边境危局。

I described earlier.

There are so many topics to cover in Georgia,

格鲁吉亚涉及的新闻话题太多了，

and I feel like it's not been covered.

而这些话题还未被报道。

By photographing these topics and talking about it

通过拍摄和谈论这些话题，

the dialogue starts,

这场对话开始了，

and I think from this dialogue the change comes.

我认为从这次的对话开始， 变化即将到来。

One journey I documented a 14-year-old boy telling the story

在一次行程中，我采访了 一个 14 岁男孩，

about how he had to cross the occupied border

他讲述了如何穿越 被占领的边境，

onto the Russian-controlled territory to visit his ill grandmother,

到达俄控区域探望他生病的祖母，

and kind of risking his life.

这是他冒着生命危险做的。

And I went with him on this one trip

我跟着他一起走了一遍这条路，

that took us four hours to crawl, walk,

我们花了 4 小时爬行，徒步，

hide and cross irrigation canals.

躲藏并穿越灌溉渠。

We had to hide from both the Russian-backed militants

我们只能一边躲着俄罗斯军队，

and also Georgian border police.

一边躲着格鲁吉亚边境警察。

It's really dangerous for, especially journalists,

这对记者来说尤为危险，

because they don't know where the border is.

因为他们都不知道 边境在哪里。

I could not make any mistakes

我不能有一点失误，

or I would be detained by the Russian-backed militants.

否则我会被俄军拘留。

He symbolized for me our people's resilience

这个男孩使人们的坚韧具象化了，

because he loves his grandmother so much.

因为深爱自己的祖母，

He kind of killed the fear in him and took this road.

他压下了他内心的恐惧， 走上了这条道路。

I think it matters to not just be a photographer

我认为重要的不仅仅是成为一名

who goes there and leaves and never comes back,

去那里、离开、再也不回来的摄影师，

but to actually have this connection with the people.

而是真正与人们建立这种联系。

It's not just a story that's told by a photographer,

这不仅仅是一个摄影师 所描述的话题，

but it's a story that's told by the people who live in Georgia.

这是生活在格鲁吉亚的人们 诉说的故事。

It's like an archive

它就像一个档案，

that will let the future generation also understand

会使后代也可以理解到

what it was like to live close to the occupied territories.

生活在靠近占领区的地方 是什么感受。

Soviet Union tried to demolish our identity,

苏联曾试图抹杀 我们的存在，

but they couldn't manage because our roots are very strong,

但他们无法做到，

因为我们的传统，文化 和语言的根基坚不可摧。

like, traditions and culture and language.

So I think it's very important to tell the story of my people.

我想传播我们的故事十分重要，

I want us to be heard.

我希望我们能为世人所知。