Richard Wilkinson: The link between inequality and anxiety | TED

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翻译人员: Yuwei Wu 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
我相信你已经注意到了摆拍
和没意识到有相机在拍的 人的照片之间的区别。
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I'm sure you've noticed the difference between posed photographs
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趁人不注意的抓拍,
它们通常是这样的。
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and pictures taken of people who are unaware of the camera.
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这张照片是在伦敦市中心拍的。
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The pictures where people are unaware --
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人们正值壮年,
但每个人看起来都很 憔悴、沮丧、焦虑。
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they often look like this.
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This picture was taken in central London.
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有些人看起来很生气。 没有一丝笑容。
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People in the prime of life,
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and yet everyone there looks haggard, depressed, anxious.
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但是,如果你看人们摆拍的照片,
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Some of them look quite angry. Not a smile to be seen.
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就像这张照片一样,
他们勾肩搭背。
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And yet, if you look at pictures of people posed,
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他们笑。
我想,这就是我们希望 别人看到的,
这就应该是我们在一起的样子。
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they put their arms around each other,
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as in this picture.
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不幸的是,数据告诉了我们 一个不同的故事。
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They smile.
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That's, I think, how we'd like to be seen,
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在英国,调查显示, 74% 的成年人
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how we think we should be together.
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感到压力过大或 不堪重负,无法应对,
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Unfortunately, the data tells a different story.
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In the UK, surveys have shown that 74 percent of adults
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32% 的人有自杀想法,
16% 的人有过自残。
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have felt so stressed or overwhelmed and unable to cope,
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在美国,情况非常相似:
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32 percent have had suicidal thoughts,
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79% 的人每天都感到压力,
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16 percent have actually self-harmed.
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In the USA, the picture's very similar:
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近 60% 的人压力大到麻木。
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79 percent felt stressed every day,
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当媒体上出现新的数据
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and almost 60 percent have felt paralyzed by stress.
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展示压力、抑郁、自残、
药物滥用、饮食失调的程度时,
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When there are new figures that come out in the media
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showing levels of stress, depression, self-harm,
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人们会有什么反应?
人们只是需要更多的服务、
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drug abuse, eating disorders,
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更多的心理治疗师、更多的 心理学家、更多的精神科医生。
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what's the response?
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这就好像
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It's simply to demand more services,
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受了重伤的时候,
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more psychotherapists, more psychologists, more psychiatrists.
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大多数人都只是想让更多的 外科医生把他们
缝起来, 而不是找出问题所在。
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It's as if a large majority of the population
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关键问题是: 为什么会发生这种情况?
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were being seriously injured
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and instead of finding out what’s going wrong,
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we simply want more surgeons to stitch them up.
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即使是在富裕国家?
我是一名流行病学家,
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The crucial question we must ask is: Why is this happening?
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这意味着我的职业生涯
一直在研究人群健康和 疾病的原因。
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Why even in rich countries?
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I'm an epidemiologist,
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我想告诉你们,不平等是导致
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which means I've spent my career doing research
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on the causes of health and illness in populations.
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更大程度的焦虑、精神痛苦、
不快乐、抑郁的重要来源。
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And I want to show you that inequality is a really powerful cause
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我希望你们回想一下,
当你们在别人面前感到焦虑、 尴尬、紧张的时候,
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of higher levels of anxiety and mental distress,
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unhappiness, depression.
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那些社交场合的接触,
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I'd like you to cast your minds back
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to when you've felt anxious, embarrassed, nervous in front of other people,
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也许是当你在演讲或
去一个你不认识在场 任何人的派对的时候。
但是,当我们面临被 消极看待的威胁时,
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the social exposure,
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maybe when you're making a speech
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or going to a party where you don't know anyone.
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就会产生这些情绪。
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But all sorts of situations where we face the threat of being seen negatively
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这张图表总结了数百项研究,
这些研究让人们承受 不同种类的压力,
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cause these sorts of emotions.
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同时测量他们的应激激素变化,
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This graph is a summary of hundreds of studies
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主要是皮质醇, 一种中枢应激激素。
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of exposing people to different kinds of stress
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研究表明,促使应激激素 水平上升的主要因素
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while measuring what happens to their stress hormones,
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principally cortisol, a central stress hormone.
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是所谓的“社会评估威胁”——
对自尊或社会地位的威胁,
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And what it shows is that what most pushes up our levels of stress hormones
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来源于别人对你的表现的负面评价。
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are what is called "social evaluative threat" --
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所以,尽管这些社会压力 是众所周知的,
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threats to self-esteem or social status,
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我们都很熟悉,
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where others can negatively judge your performance.
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但人们没有看到不平等是如何让 我们所有人的社会压力变得更糟的。
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So although these social stresses are widely recognized
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and we're all familiar with them,
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在这张幻灯片的
底部,你可以看到 不同的收入群体,
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people fail to see how inequality makes them worse for all of us.
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从左边最贫穷的十分之一的人口
到右边最富有的人。
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In this slide,
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在上面
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along the bottom, you've got different income groups,
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是对身份焦虑的统计结果,
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from the poorest tenth of the population on the left
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以及人们有多担心别人 如何看待和评价自己。
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to the richest on the right.
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And up the side,
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最上面的那条线显示了 在更不平等的社会中
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you've got a measure of status anxiety,
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how worried people are about how they're seen and judged by others.
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所有收入群体的身份焦虑水平。
最下面的线显示了 在更平等的社会中,
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The top line shows levels of status anxiety across all income groups
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身份焦虑的程度要低得多。
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in the more unequal societies.
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我认为我们要处理的问题是, 我们是生活在
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And the bottom line shows the much lower levels of status anxiety
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一个像这样非常陡峭的社会阶层中,
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in the more equal societies.
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还是在一个像这样 非常浅的社会阶层中。
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I think what we're dealing with is whether we live in societies
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我们之间更大的
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with a very steep social hierarchy like that,
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物质差异增加了社会距离、
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or a much shallower one like that.
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优越感和自卑感,
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If you like: bigger material differences between us
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社会内部的社会关系 会因此产生很大的影响。
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increase the social distances
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and those feelings of superiority and inferiority,
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地位和阶级会变得更加重要。
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and that makes a big difference to social relationships within society.
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我们不太可能与不同 阶层背景的人结婚。
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Status and class become more important.
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社区生活,就像我说过的, 减少了,而暴力也增加了,
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We're less likely to marry people with a different class background.
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因为暴力是由感觉 被人看不起而触发的。
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Community life, as I've said, drops away, and violence also goes up,
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丢面子、不受尊重、羞辱——
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because violence is triggered by people feeling looked down on.
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这些都是暴力的导火索。
当然,对于那些对地位问题 更敏感的人来说,
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Loss of face, disrespected, humiliated --
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暴力更容易被触发。
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those are the triggers of violence.
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消费主义也在上升,
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And of course, for people who are more sensitive to status issues,
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因为我们都在努力 增强自我展示。
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violence is triggered more often.
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各种各样的社会互动措施
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Consumerism also goes up,
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都显示出整个社会结构在 不平等的情况下变得更加僵化。
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because we're all trying to enhance our self-presentation.
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社会流动性下降,
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All sorts of measures of social interaction
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与此同时,我们甚至离我们声称
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show the whole social structure becoming more ossified with inequality.
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要为孩子们提供的 平等机会更远了。
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Social mobility goes down,
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and with that, we're even further away from the equal opportunities
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所以不平等不仅仅是 不公平或贫穷。
它把我们置于社会关系中,
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which we claim to be trying to provide for children.
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优等和劣等的关系中。
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So inequality isn't just about unfairness or poverty.
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它把我们从好到坏地排序。
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It puts us in social relationships,
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这是一个非常令人反感的过程,
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relationships of superiority and inferiority.
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它让底层的人产生了自卑感。
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It ranks us from better to worse.
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这让我们更常通过社会地位 来评价对方,因此,
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It's a really invidious process,
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我们会更担心别人 如何看待和评价我们。
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and it creates those feelings of inferiority at the bottom.
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It makes us judge each other more by social status, and with that,
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对于别人如何看待和评判我们,
有两种常见的反应。
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we become more worried about how we are seen and judged by others.
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一是你几乎接受了你的劣等、
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There are two common responses
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自卑、缺乏自信。
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to feeling so worried about how we're seen and judged.
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你从社交生活中退出, 因为你发现这一切都太难了,
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One is that you almost accept your inferiority,
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你变得更容易抑郁。
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low self-esteem, lack of confidence.
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事实上,越是不平等的社会, 抑郁症的发病率就越高。
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You withdraw from social life because you find it all too difficult,
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and you become more vulnerable to depression.
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另一种常见的反应几乎完全相反。
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And indeed, rates of depression are higher in more unequal societies.
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如果你担心别人对你的看法, 你就会自我吹捧。
你把夸大自己。 你炫耀自己的能力和成就。
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The other common response is almost exactly the opposite.
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你变得自恋而不是谦虚。
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If you're worried about what people think of you, you talk yourself up.
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我们在更不平等的社会中 也看到了这一点。
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You big yourself up. You flaunt your abilities and achievements.
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下一个图表来自一项心理学家 称之为“自我提升”的研究。
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You become narcissistic instead of modest.
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We see that, too, in more unequal societies.
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不同国家的人们被问及
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This next graph is from a study of what psychologists call self-enhancement.
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他们认为自己在不同特征上 与普通人相比如何。
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People in different countries are asked
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这表明,在更不平等的社会中, 人们自我膨胀,
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how they think they compare to the average on different characteristics.
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他们认为自己更擅长某事;
他们夸张地表现自己。
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And what it shows is, in more unequal societies, people big themselves up,
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他们变得自恋。
好像每个人都觉得 自己开车比一般人好。
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They think they're better at things;
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they present themselves in an exaggerated way.
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这种趋势在更不平等的 社会中更明显。
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They become narcissistic.
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It's like everyone thinking they're better drivers than average.
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精神疾病在更不平等的 国家也更严重,
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That tendency is greater in more unequal societies.
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因为精神疾病往往由与支配和从属、
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Mental illness is also worse in more unequal countries,
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优劣感有关的
问题引发或加剧。
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because mental illness is often triggered or exacerbated
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最近有一项针对 36 个 经合组织国家(OECD)的研究表明,
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by issues to do with dominance and subordination,
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superiority and inferiority.
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这些社会的不平等程度 与 10 种最常见的
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There was a recent study of the 36 OECD countries
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精神疾病之间存在紧密联系。
我认为最可悲的是, 对幸福和健康的研究,
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showing a tight correlation between levels of inequality in those societies
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and the 10 most common mental disorders.
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以及对健康的研究表明,
最重要的决定因素之一
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I think the saddest part of this is that studies of happiness and well-being,
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是我们的社会关系、
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studies of health, too,
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show that one of the most important determinants
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我们的社会环境、
我们的友谊。
这就是不平等造成 最大损害的地方。
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is the quality of our social relationships,
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our social environment,
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为了解决抑郁、焦虑、精神疾病
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our friendships.
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And that is where inequality does its greatest damage.
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和自残的沉重负担,
我们必须要做的是减少社会中
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To address this heavy burden of depression, anxiety,
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使我们彼此分离的不平等程度。
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mental illness, self-harm,
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在某种意义上,不平等 是我们之间的敌人。
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what we have to do is reduce the levels of inequality in society
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that divide us from each other.
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Inequality is, in a sense, the enemy between us.
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