Are We Celebrating the Wrong Leaders? | Martin Gutmann | TED

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翻译人员: Sue Lu 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
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I would like to invite you on a little thought experiment.
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我想邀请你做一个小型的思维实验。
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Let's pretend that we're going on a polar expedition together.
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让我们假装一起进行极地探险,
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All of you and me.
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我和你们所有人。
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And we need to hire a captain.
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我们需要雇一个队长,
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And we have two resumes in front of us.
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而我们面前有两份简历。
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One comes from a man
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一份来自一位
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who has already successfully achieved all four of the major polar goals:
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极地探险者,已成功穿越四个主要极地:
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the North Pole and the South Pole,
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北极与南极,
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and the Northeast and the Northwest Passage.
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东北和西北航道。
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In fact, three of these, he was the first person to accomplish.
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他还是穿越其中三个极地的第一人。
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Let's call him candidate A.
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让我们称他为候选人 A。
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Candidate B is a man who set off for the Antarctic four times,
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候选人 B 曾四次启程前往南极,
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three times as the man in charge,
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其中三次他曾担任队长,
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and every time resulted in failure,
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但这四次航行都以失败、
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catastrophe or death.
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灾难或死亡告终。
01:01
Who should we hire?
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我们应该录用谁?
01:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:04
It's not meant to be a trick question.
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这不是一个刁钻的问题,
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I think it's obvious we want candidate A.
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答案明显是录用候选人 A,
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He's the man for the job.
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这份工作的最佳人选。
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But, in reality,
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但实际上,
01:15
we often trick ourselves into hiring candidate B
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我们经常会误选候选人 B
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or someone like him.
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或与他类似的人。
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How do I know?
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我是怎么知道的?
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Well, both of these men were real polar explorers
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两位候选人是真实存在的极地探险家,
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who lived during the so-called Heroic Age of Polar exploration.
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都生活在所谓的极地探险英雄时代。
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And in the centuries since,
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那之后的几个世纪里,
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one of them has been consistently celebrated
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其中一位一直被誉为
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as a leadership role model in best-selling books, blogs, documentaries, podcasts
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领导者的楷模,不断出现在 畅销书、博客、纪录片、播客
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and an endless stream of social media posts.
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以及数不清的社交媒体帖子中。
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But surprisingly,
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但令人惊讶、
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shockingly,
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甚至震惊的是,
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this is not candidate A,
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那不是候选人 A,
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but candidate B,
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而是候选人 B,
01:56
the very much disaster-prone Anglo-Irish explorer Ernest Shackleton.
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屡遭灾难的英裔爱尔兰探险家 欧内斯特·沙克尔顿(Ernest Shackleton)。
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Meanwhile, candidate A,
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而候选人 A,
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the Norwegian Roald Amundsen,
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挪威人罗尔德·阿蒙森 (Roald Amundsen),
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by any metric the most successful polar explorer to have ever lived,
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有史以来最成功的极地探险家,
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has been largely forgotten.
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却几乎被遗忘了。
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I did a quick search in my university's library catalogue before this talk,
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演讲前,我快速搜索了 我的大学图书馆目录,
02:22
and I found no fewer than 26 books
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发现有不少于 26 本书
02:26
that celebrate Shackleton's leadership qualities.
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颂扬沙克尔顿的领导才能。
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For Amundsen, I found four,
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但我只找到四本关于阿蒙森的书,
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two of which I wrote.
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其中两本还是我写的。
02:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:39
What is going on here?
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这是怎么回事?
02:41
Why are we obsessed with a mediocre, at best, leader
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为什么我们着迷于一位平庸的领导者,
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and overlooking a truly gifted one?
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却忽视了一位有真才实学的?
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Well, I'm a historian who studies leadership,
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我是研究领导力的历史学家,
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and I'm here to tell you we celebrate the wrong leaders.
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我想告诉大家, 我们在颂扬错误的领导者,
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And not just in the realm of polar exploration.
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而这不只限于极地探索领域。
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Have you heard of Toussaint Louverture?
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听说过杜桑-卢维杜尔 (Toussaint Louverture)吗?
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You probably discuss him around the coffee machines in the mornings.
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早上在咖啡机旁谈论过他吧。
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Maybe not, but you should.
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要是没有,那应该了解一下。
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He was born an illiterate slave
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他身为一个不识字的奴隶,
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and rose to become one of the most influential revolutionaries ever
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后来成长为历史上 最具影响力的革命家之一,
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and outsmarted the biggest empires of the day,
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智胜了当时几个最大的帝国,
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including Napoleon's.
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包括拿破仑帝国。
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What about Frances Perkins?
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那么弗朗西斯·珀金斯 (Frances Perkins)呢?
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She was the pillar in US President
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她是美国总统
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt's famous New Deal.
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富兰克林·德拉诺·罗斯福 著名的新政的支柱。
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We celebrate the wrong leaders.
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我们在颂扬错误的领导者,
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And this is not just an academic or a trivial insight.
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这不只是个学术见解, 或无关紧要的看法。
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Leadership development today is a 60-billion-dollar industry.
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当今,领导力开发 是一个价值 600 亿美元的行业,
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For good reason.
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这是有原因的。
03:51
We need leaders, right?
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我们需要领导者,对吧?
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All the challenges that we face today require people to work together,
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所有挑战都需要大家共同努力解决,
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and this in turn requires somebody who can motivate them, inspire them,
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还需要有人带头激励、鼓舞众人、
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coordinate the work,
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协调工作、
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deal with whatever hiccups might arise along the way.
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处理随时可能出现的任何问题。
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But for this reason,
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因此,
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it's important that we celebrate the right leaders
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我们必须颂扬正确的领导者,
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because the leaders we celebrate are the leaders we learn from.
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因为他们将是我们学习的榜样。
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And so in this sense,
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从这个意义上讲,
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the leaders we celebrate have a direct impact on the success
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我们颂扬的领导者会直接影响到
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or as it may be, failure, of our greatest endeavors today.
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当代最伟大的事业的成败。
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So why do we celebrate the wrong leaders?
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那我们为什么会赞颂错误的领导者呢?
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Sometimes it comes down to pure racism and sexism.
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有时是出于单纯的种族主义和性别歧视。
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We have a well-documented bias for associating leadership with white men.
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有据可查的一个偏见就是, 我们常将领导力与白人男性挂钩。
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But there's another culprit at work as well,
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但还有另一个罪魁祸首在作祟,
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what I like to call the action fallacy.
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我喜欢称之为“行动谬论”。
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Our mistaken belief
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我们错误地认为,
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that the best leaders are those who generate the most noise,
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最好的领导者会搞出最大声响、
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action and sensational activity in the most dramatic circumstances.
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最多动作和轰动性事件, 尤其在最具戏剧性的情况下。
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In other words,
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换句话说,
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we confuse a good story for good leadership.
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我们将精彩故事与好的领导力混为一谈。
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But the two are not the same.
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但两者并不等同。
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As a matter of fact, very often,
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事实上,
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good leadership will result in a bad story.
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好的领导力往往不会成为精彩故事。
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Let me explain.
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让我来解释为什么。
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Imagine leadership for one moment,
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想象一下这种领导力,
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not as a polar explorer charting a new course
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不是如极地探险家般开辟新航线,
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or a CEO motivating her staff,
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或是如 CEO 激励员工,
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but as the simple act of swimming across a river.
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而是游过一条河流那样的简单举动。
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And not just any river.
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当然,不是任何一条河流,
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Imagine a violent river with waves crashing together
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这条湍急的河流,波涛汹涌,
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and rocks lurking somewhere below the surface.
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岩石潜伏于水面之下。
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If a swimmer ventures in haphazardly,
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有位泳者随意而冒险地跃入这条河流,
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without being aware of his own capabilities or the currents,
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完全没意识到自己的有限能力或急流,
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and nearly drowns,
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几近溺水,
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but splashes around wildly,
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于是他狂乱挣扎拍打,水花四溅,
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fights with all his strength,
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拼尽全力求生,
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and somehow miraculously manages to drag himself back to safety,
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并奇迹般地将自己拖回了安全地带。
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those of us looking on, will notice him,
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在岸边观看的人就会注意到他,
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and we will probably say, "Wow,
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可能就会说:“哇,
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what a guy!
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这人了不起!
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He really fought hard to get himself out of that crisis."
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他拼尽全力摆脱了危机。”
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And if instead we have a swimmer
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但如果我们有另一位泳者,
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who has studied the river for years
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对这条河流进行了多年考察,
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and knows just where and when to enter the water
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知道何时何处下水最好,
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and how to turn her body in subtle ways,
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知道如何巧妙地转动身体,
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and so lets the current carry her across,
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从而让水流带她过河。
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we probably won't notice her.
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我们可能很难注意到她,
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And if we do,
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如果注意到了,
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we would probably say,
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我们可能就会说,
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"Meh, that looks pretty easy."
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“嗯,这看起来很容易嘛。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:51
Shackleton and Amundsen are a case in point.
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沙克尔顿和阿蒙森就是这样一个例子。
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Shackleton, our candidate B,
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沙克尔顿,我们的候选人 B,
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is best known for his ill-fated “Endurance” expedition,
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以其命运多舛的“坚韧号”探险而闻名。
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which set off in the summer of 1914
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该探险始于 1914 年夏天,
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and saw his ship become trapped
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他的帆船坚韧号被困,
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and eventually crushed by the ice off Antarctica.
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并最终被南极洲附近的浮冰击垮。
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And he and his men were then forced to undertake a dangerous trek
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他和他的队员被迫进行危险的跋涉,
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across the ice
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穿越浮冰,
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and braved some of the stormiest seas on Earth
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渡过地球上一些最狂暴的海域,
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before finally reaching the safety of South Georgia
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最后到达南乔治亚州的安全地带,
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in the summer of 1916.
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那时已是 1916 年夏天。
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Now, Shackleton was a tenacious man, no doubt,
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沙克尔顿无疑是个顽强的人,
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and his is a captivating story fit for Hollywood.
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他的故事引人入胜,很适合好莱坞,
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In fact, it was made into a TV series starring a young Kenneth Branagh.
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已被拍成了由肯尼思·布拉纳 主演的电视连续剧。
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But, it is not a story fit to draw leadership lessons from.
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但这个故事并不适合 用来吸取领导力的经验教训。
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Because admirable those efforts were,
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因为尽管那些努力令人钦佩,
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the crisis that beset him was largely self-inflicted.
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但困扰他的危机主要是自己造成的。
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He overlooked the advice from local whalers,
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他忽视了当地捕鲸者的劝告,
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who told him the ice was particularly dangerous that season,
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那个季节的冰层特别危险;
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and he overlooked massive deficits in his equipment, preparation,
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他也忽视了很多其他问题, 比如他的装备、行前准备、
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crew selection and training.
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船员选拔和培训等。
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And it gets worse.
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还有更糟的。
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Rarely highlighted in the many books that celebrate his leadership qualities
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在许多赞扬他的领导才能的书中 , 很少有人强调过,
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is the fact that the expedition's other ship, the Aurora,
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那次探险的另一艘船,奥罗拉号,
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suffered an even graver crisis,
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遭遇了更严重的危机,
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the result of which was three lost lives.
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导致三人丧生。
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In contrast,
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相比之下,
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the expeditions of Roald Amundsen make for boring reading.
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阿蒙森的探险故事读起来枯燥乏味。
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Not because he was lucky,
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不是因为他很幸运,
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but because, based on his intimate knowledge of the polar environment,
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而是因为基于他对极地环境的深入了解,
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his careful and deliberate planning,
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他的精心策划和深思熟虑,
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and his authentic and innovative leadership in the field,
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以及在该领域的可信和创新的领导能力,
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he managed to reduce the problems that his team encountered
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让他能够将团队遇到的问题减至
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to a bare minimum.
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最低限度。
08:51
In 1905, he achieved, in a tiny fishing vessel,
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1905 年,靠着一艘极小的渔船, 他取得了一个惊人的成就,
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what the mighty British Navy had failed to do
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那是强大的英国海军在过去八十年
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the previous eight decades:
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都未能成功做到的:
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to find and navigate the Northwest Passage above the Canadian mainland.
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寻找到并航行于 加拿大大陆上方的西北航道。
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In 1911, he reached the South Pole,
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1911 年,他抵达南极,
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a journey of 3,000 kilometers across hazardous and uncharted terrain,
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经历了一段长达 3,000 公里、 穿越危险和未知地形的旅程,
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and arrived back at his camp after 99 days,
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并在 99 天后返回营地,
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just one day off his planned schedule.
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仅比计划的时间表晚了一天。
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If Shackleton is the swimmer
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如果说沙克尔顿是那个冒失的泳者,
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who rushes recklessly into the water
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鲁莽地冲入水中,
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without understanding the currents or his own capabilities,
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连水流或自己的能力都不清楚;
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Amundsen is the swimmer
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那阿蒙森就是一个成熟的游者,
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who has spent a lifetime humbly studying the river
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一生都在谦逊地研究河流,
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before entering the water in just the right spot,
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然后在恰当的地点、
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at just the right time, and so makes it look easy.
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恰当的时间进入水中,因此显得很容易。
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Now the action fallacy causes real problems,
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行动谬论会引起严重问题,
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and not just for our interpretation of the past. right?
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不只是在对过去的诠释上,对吧?
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I arrived at it through my work as a historian
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我是通过历史学家的工作 得出这一结论的,
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interested in why we celebrate some leaders of the past,
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我很感兴趣为什么 我们颂扬历史上的某些领导者,
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but not others.
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却忽略其他的。
10:04
But it's a dangerous feature in our offices today as well,
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这个危险现象也出现在 我们的办公室里。
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because after all, the same biases and misconceptions
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因为,我们在阅读历史时
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that we bring to our reading of the past
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怀有的偏见和误解
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are one and the same with which we view leadership in our offices today.
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同样会出现在 看待工作中的领导者时。
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It is the Shackletons of our offices rather than the Amundsens,
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通常是沙克尔顿们而不是阿蒙森们
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who serve as role models,
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成为我们的榜样,
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who get promoted and who get rewarded.
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得到晋升和奖励。
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In fact, this is something
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实际上,这种情形
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studies in organizational psychology have confirmed.
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已被组织心理学的研究证实。
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We see leadership potential in people who speak more,
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我们认为讲话多的人更有领导潜力,
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regardless of what they say.
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无论他们讲什么。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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In people who appear confident,
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还有那些显得自信的人,
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regardless of how competent they are.
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不管他们能力如何。
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And we have an unyielding admiration for people who are perpetually busy,
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我们对一直忙碌的人 有种不可动摇的钦佩之情,
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regardless of what they're actually doing.
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不管那些人到底在忙什么。
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I see some of you are imagining specific people in your office right now.
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你们中有些人 正在想象办公室里某些同僚吧。
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Don't worry, we won't tell them.
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别担心,我们不会告诉他们的。
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In other words, appearing to be a good leader,
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换句话说,在台面上似乎是个好领导,
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rather than actually being one behind the scenes,
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幕后却不尽到领导的职责,
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is the path to fame and bonus and promotion today.
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这才是当今成名、 多拿奖金和晋升之路。
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And this causes all kinds of problems.
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但这种行为会导致很多问题。
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With the wrong leaders in charge,
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如果由错误的领导者掌权,
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organizations are obviously not performing at their full potential.
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企业组织就无法充分发挥潜力,
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And it creates a toxic culture in which those actually doing good work
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还会形成有害的文化, 令那些真正工作出色的人
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feel overlooked and demotivated.
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感到被忽视,从而失去动力。
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And perhaps worst of all,
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也许最糟的是,
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it's a self-perpetuating cycle
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这将是个周而复始的循环。
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because by celebrating these flawed, action-oriented leaders,
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因为表彰有问题、 以表面行动为导向的领导者,
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we're actively creating more of them.
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相当于我们在积极制造出更多这样的人。
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So this is a problem that we need to solve.
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所以,我们需要解决这个问题。
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The good news is we can.
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好消息是,我们能够做到。
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And it starts with reimagining what good leadership looks like.
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从重新认识优秀领导是什么样开始,
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And there's two sides to this.
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这包括两个方面。
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First, we have to learn to ignore what we can call the captains of crisis,
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首先,必须学会忽略那些“危机队长“,
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the Shackletons,
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沙克尔顿们,
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those who are lurching from one dramatic circumstance to another.
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他们总是在戏剧性境况中打转。
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While some crises can't be avoided,
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尽管有些危机无法避免,
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many are self-inflicted or amplified by poor leadership,
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但许多都是领导不力造成的,咎由自取,
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or sometimes just a figment of their imagination.
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有些甚至只是他们想象中的虚构。
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Keith Grint, the preeminent scholar of leadership today,
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当今领导力领域的著名学者 基思·格林特(Keith Grint)
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brilliantly summarizes this problematic dynamic.
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精辟地总结了这种充满问题的动态。
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"Since we reward people who are good in crises,
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“由于我们奖励在危机中表现出色的人,
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and ignore people who are such good managers that there are few crises,
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并忽略善于管理令危机减到最少的人,
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people soon learn to seek out or reframe situations as crises."
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人们很快就学会去找出危机 或重新将境况定义为危机。”
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We need to disincentivize this style of leadership
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我们不应鼓励这种领导方式,
12:44
by refusing to give these people the attention they crave.
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要拒绝给予这些人所期望的关注。
12:47
And that's easy when we're confronted with the sober facts.
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这不难做到,只要我们直面事实:
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Ahmanson's four successes, Shackleton's four failures.
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阿蒙森的四次成功, 沙克尔顿的四次失败。
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But as soon as it's embedded in a story,
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不过,一旦将这些变成故事来讲,
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the dramatic details pull us in like a magnet
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戏剧性的细节 就会像磁铁一样吸引我们,
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and give us a false sense of inspiration.
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并给我们一种虚假的激励感。
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False, because there's no real substance there.
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虚假,是因为没有实质内容。
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Instead, we need to learn to celebrate those who mitigate
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因此,我们需要学会赞赏那些减少
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rather than promote drama.
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而不是宣扬戏剧性的人。
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And this can be challenging
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但这可能很具挑战性,
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because often they do so in very subtle ways
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因为他们通常会悄无声息地行事,
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below the surface of the water,
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一切就如在水面之下,
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in the case of our swimmer, right?
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像前面那个熟练的泳者一样,对吧?
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They're obsessive planners.
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他们是执着的计划者,
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They build processes that align the organization's strengths
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他们建立的流程能够顺应组织的优势
13:29
with the unique challenges they face.
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来应对所面临的独特挑战。
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And they're authentic and create cultures that bring out the best in people.
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他们很真诚,积极创建 激发人们最佳表现的的文化。
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Harvard Business School professor Raffaella Sadun
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哈佛商学院教授 拉斐拉·萨敦(Raffaella Sadun)
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has studied the profound impact this behind-the-scenes work can have,
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研究了“幕后工作”的深远影响,
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and she has given it a name.
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并给它起了个名字。
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I don't want to give you too many technical, academic terms here,
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我一般不愿讲太多术语,
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but this is an important one, she calls it
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但这个术语很重要,她称之为
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boring management.
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“枯燥的管理”。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:58
But as she tells us from her research,
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正如她通过研究告诉我们的那样,
14:00
the evidence is clear that boring management matters.
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证据表明,枯燥的管理很重要。
14:06
It may not be as exciting as leading a cavalry charge from the front
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它可能没有那么令人兴奋, 不像带领骑兵在前线冲锋陷阵,
14:11
or giving a brash pep talk,
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或进行大放厥词的演讲,
14:14
but it's the real toolkit of good leaders.
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但它才是优秀领导者真正的工具包。
14:18
And to me,
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对我来说,
14:21
making a difference from behind the scenes,
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在幕后默默发挥作用,
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unconcerned with what other people are thinking,
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不理会其他人怎么想,
14:28
unconcerned with spilling self-aggrandizing words, or exaggerating,
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不屑于自吹自擂或夸大其词,
14:33
such people are truly inspirational.
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这样的领导才真的很鼓舞人心。
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Let me summarize.
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让我总结一下。
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The action fallacy tricks us into celebrating the wrong leaders.
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行动谬论诱使我们颂扬错误的领导者,
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And this comes with huge costs.
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让我们付出巨大的代价。
14:47
We can overcome it.
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但这个可以得到纠正,
14:49
I would say we must overcome it.
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我要说,我们必须纠正它。
14:52
And this starts with reimagining what good leadership looks like.
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首先要重新认识优秀领导力是什么样的。
14:56
So the next time you’re in a position to judge or reward a leader,
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因此,当你下次评判或奖励领导者时,
15:02
or maybe just the next time you're trying to figure out
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或者试图弄清
15:07
whose efforts actually guided your team or organization to success,
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谁的努力真正引导团队走向成功时,
15:12
resist the temptation to be dazzled by tales of adventure and derring-do,
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一定要抗拒诱惑, 不要被被冒险故事蒙蔽,
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and take a moment to look below the surface
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花点时间看看表象之下
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or in the quieter corners of your team.
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或团队中那些安静的角落。
15:24
And this is important,
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这很重要,
15:25
because the next time your organization is faced
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因为下次当你的组织面临
15:29
with the equivalent of the ice pack looming on the horizon,
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相当于冰层漂浮在地平线的境况时,
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who do you want in charge?
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你会选谁掌舵?
15:37
The leader who responds to the ship freezing in place
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是那种看到船只冻在原地
15:42
by frantically cranking the engine,
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就疯狂地启动发动机、
15:44
unpacking the crates of dynamite,
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拆开装有炸药的箱子、
15:45
and pushing his men to their breaking point?
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并将手下逼到崩溃边缘的领导?
15:49
Or the leader who avoids getting stuck in the ice in the first place?
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还是一开始就避免被困在冰层中的领导?
15:53
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
15:54
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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