R. Alan Brooks: When the world is burning, is art a waste of time? | TED

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我在佐治亚州的亚特兰大市长大, 我不认识很多白人,
但是我是在一个被白人至上 主义阴影笼罩下的
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I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia, and I didn't know very many white people,
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一个南方黑人教堂长大的。
那是一个黑人运营的教堂,
他们被教着去讨厌他们自己。
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but I was raised in a Southern Black church
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that was under the shadow of white supremacy
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抚养我长大的这代人的记忆 对绞刑还是依旧熟悉。
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and run by Black people
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who in many ways were taught to hate themselves.
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所以为了不让自己 被种族主义者杀害,
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The generation that raised me was still familiar with lynchings.
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在我这代之前的黑人们
学会了让自己看起来不起眼一点。
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So in order to not be murdered by racists,
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我们不能太大声,
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some of the Black people in the generation before me
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太聪明,太引人注目,太勇敢。
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learned to make themselves smaller.
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一定程度上,他们觉得
去做任何令我们突出的事情
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We couldn't be too loud,
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too smart, too attractive, too bold.
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都会引来杀身之祸。
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On some level, they felt
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在这样一种时代下,我出现了,
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like anything that we did that made us stand out
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这个会说唱的,
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might get us murdered.
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爱 “怪人奥尔” 扬科维奇
和读漫画书的全 A 优等生。
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In the midst of that, I emerged,
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this straight-A student who rapped,
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仅仅是为了试图 让自己显得不出众一点。
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loved "Weird Al" Yankovic
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所以我身边的大人 经常打压我的艺术性。
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and read comic books.
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So much for not standing out.
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对他们来说,漫画书才是
对世界懵懂的小孩子该追求的。
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So the grownups around me regularly discouraged my artistry.
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他们告诉我艺术是愚蠢的,
然后我会经历一些 关于现实世界的教训。
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To them, comic books were the pursuit of a kid
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who didn't really understand the world.
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They told me that art was silly
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那时候,我只有一个 喜欢漫画书的朋友,
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and I was in for some hard lessons about the real world.
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但他还去了另一所学校。
所以在我 11 岁左右时,
我们俩去了我们人生中 第一个漫画书展览会。
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Back then, I only had one other friend who was into comic books
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他们几乎没见过黑人小孩子去那里,
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and he went to a different school.
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所以一个白人大人 错把我带到了保安那里
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So when I was around 11,
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he and I went to our very first comic book convention.
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然后给我看了他的入场证。
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They were so unused to seeing Black kids there,
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记得,我那时 11 岁。
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that one grown white man mistook me for security
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但是我和我朋友爱这些展览。
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and showed me his convention badge in order to get in.
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终于,我们有另一个人 可以聊一些重要的问题,
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Remember, I was 11.
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比如,为什么绿巨人 总穿紫色的裤子?
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But me and my friend loved these conventions.
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在那之后一年左右 每一秒的空闲时间里,
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Finally, we had other people to talk to about the important questions,
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我和那个朋友都在积极地画漫画书。
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like, why does the Hulk always wear purple pants?
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他爸爸发现了这件事后 和我们在客厅里坐下。
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About a year or so later with every free moment that we had
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me and that same friend were actively drawing comic books.
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他爱我们,于是他决定是 时候和我们说清楚了。
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His father took notice of this and he sat us down in the living room.
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他说:“你们两个喜欢 这些漫画书,这很好,
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He loved us both, and he decided it was time to set us straight.
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但是你们需要选一个认真的职业,
一个可以养活你们 自己和家人的职业。
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He said, "It's great that you two love these comic books,
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凭漫画书是做不到的。”
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but you need to pick a serious profession,
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我朋友的爸爸不是 故意要伤害我们的。
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something that's going to take care of you and your families.
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他是为了使我们为现实世界做准备,
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And you’re not going to be able to do that with comic books.”
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本质上我的父母也有着同样的恐惧。
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My friend's father wasn't trying to hurt us.
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就是作为一个黑人艺术家 会让我变得出众,
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He was trying to prepare us for the world
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我也可能因此被种族主义者谋杀。
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and underneath that was this fear that was shared by my own parents.
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这其实不是一个很跳跃的想法。
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That being a Black artist would make me stand out
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我的父母生在 1950 年代,
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and that I might be murdered by racists.
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And it's not like that was a far jump.
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在 1955 年,一个白人女人 控告一个 14 岁的男孩对她吹口哨。
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My parents were born in the early 50s.
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他是个黑人,
所以只因为她的控告,
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In 1955, a white woman accused a 14-year-old boy of whistling at her.
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两个成年白人将他残忍地杀害了。
这些人始终没有被送进监狱。
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He was Black
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这个男孩的名字是 爱默特·提尔 (Emmett Till)。
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and two grown white men brutally murdered him
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just for her accusation.
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所以我的父母成长于一个
仅凭一个对白人 女人吹口哨的控告
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These men never went to prison.
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The boy's name was Emmett Till.
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就可以引来一个黑人男孩 残忍的杀身之祸的时代。
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So my parents grew up in a time
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where just the accusation of whistling at a white woman
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作为一个波西米亚的有艺术气的小伙子, 他们怎能不会担心我变得太出众呢?
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could get a Black boy brutally murdered.
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所以作为一个黑人艺术家, 我问过我自己:
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So why wouldn't they be concerned about me standing out as some bohemian artsy dude?
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当世界好像陷入了危机的时候, 艺术真的值得吗?
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So as a Black artist, I've had to ask myself:
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when the world seems like it's burning, is art really worth it?
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我长大后做了些正经的工作, 同时也在拿艺术当副业。
让我告诉你关于 我最正经的那份工作。
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I grew up and I worked serious jobs and did art on the side.
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我运营了一家保险公司,
我知道你们目前对我的了解
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Let me tell you about the most serious job that I ever worked.
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好像都在告诉你们 我是一个保险代理。
可以预料的事,我讨厌那份工作。
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I ran an insurance agency
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and I know everything that you've learned about me so far
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所以几年之后,我违反了我人生中听过 的所有明智的建议,
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screams insurance agent.
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Predictably, I hated that job.
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我决定关掉我的保险公司 然后开始试着写漫画小说。
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So after a few years and against all the wise advice I heard in my life,
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我希望去讲我热爱的那些社会问题。
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I decided to close my insurance agency and try my hand at writing graphic novels.
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像警察暴力执法, 性别歧视,种族歧视那些。
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I wanted to address the social issues that I was passionate about.
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但是坦白讲,
我离开那个正经的保险工作
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Police brutality, sexism, racism, that kind of thing.
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是为了画漫画书。
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But to make it clear,
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I was leaving the serious insurance job
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你知道的,艺术,
一个愚蠢的东西,
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in order to pursue writing comic books.
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尤其是放在一个 专注于谋杀我的世道里。
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You know, art,
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which is silly,
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那是在 2016 年,
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especially in the face of a world that seemed dedicated to murdering me.
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有这么一个真人秀 主持人要竞选总统。
你们可能从来没听说过他,
但是当时世界各地都开始 有令人不安的事情发生。
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This was 2016
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and there was this reality show host running for president.
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纳粹们更大胆了。
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You guys probably never heard of him,
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人们对他们的种族主义 感到没那么羞耻,
仇恨犯罪逐渐产生。
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but there were all these disturbing things arising in the world.
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作为回应,
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Nazis were feeling bolder.
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我的黑人和棕色人种朋友们 组织了公众抗议和抵制。
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People were feeling less shame about their racism,
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hate crimes arising.
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我很多的自由派白人朋友每周末 都去美国国会大厦游行示威。
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In response,
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my Black and Brown friends organize public protest and boycotts.
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但我想着写一本漫画。
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A lot of my liberal white friends were marching on the Capitol every weekend.
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我是在犯傻吗?
在做无用功吗?
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And I wanted to write a comic book.
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我从没靠艺术养活过自己,
而现在我就把工作辞了,
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Was I being silly?
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尤其是当世界好像在瓦解的时候。
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Vain?
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I never made a living off of art before
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艺术是愚蠢的,对吗?
我纠结了一段时间。
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and now I just quit my job
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所以我用了一个月的时间 第一次去英国旅行。
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when it seemed like the world was falling apart.
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这次旅行我很紧张, 因为我是一个人旅行。
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Art is silly, right?
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I struggled with this for a while.
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我也不知道这些国家的人
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So I took a month to travel in the UK for the first time.
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对黑人的看法是怎样的,
但是我去了柏林, 布拉格,布达佩斯,
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I was nervous about this trip because I was traveling alone.
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And I didn't know how people in these countries
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还有这个叫梅尔克舍姆的英国小镇。
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felt about Black people,
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在柏林,我和那里最大的漫画书
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but I went to Berlin, Prague, Budapest,
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连锁商店老板坐在一起。
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and this tiny British town called Melksham.
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我们讲了在他小时候, 他最喜欢的英雄是美国队长,
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In Berlin, I sat down with the owner
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of the biggest comic book store chain there.
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但是他从没有读过 那部漫画的某一些期
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And we talked about how as a kid, his favorite hero was Captain America,
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因为在那些书里, 美国队长在打纳粹。
而任何关于纳粹的东西 在德国都是被禁止的,
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but certain issues of that comic book he never got to read as a kid
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哪怕他们是在被打败。
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because Captain America was fighting Nazis in those books.
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那我们想想:
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And nothing with Nazis was allowed in Germany,
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在德国,
纳粹是被完全禁止的
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even if they were getting beat up.
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So let's think about that for a moment.
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与此同时在美国,
我们为背叛我们国家的 同盟者树立了雕像。
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In Germany,
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Nazis were banished from everything
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总之,我想到了这个人,
这个在德国长大的,
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while here in the States,
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we've erected statues to Confederates who betrayed our country.
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但是爱着美国偶像的故事的粉丝。
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Anyway, I thought about this man,
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于是我意识到了一部写得好 的漫画书或漫画小说
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this comic book fan who grew up in Germany,
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but fell in love with the story of an American icon.
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可以被世界另一端的人看到。
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And I realized a well-written comic book or graphic novel
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我想到了革命,
无论什么时候社会需要改变,
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could reach someone all the way across the world.
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那个改变都是至少在 某种程度上受艺术家影响的。
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And I thought about revolution,
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how whenever society needs to change,
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我想到独裁者们和暴君们是 如何经常地谋杀和败坏艺术家们的。
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that change is inspired at least in part by the artist.
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希特勒的人专门发明了一个词 去败坏艺术家们的名声:
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I thought about how dictators and despots regularly murder and discredit artists.
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“堕落艺术”。
他们烧毁了书和画。
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Hitler's people came up with a term specifically to discredit artists:
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但是为什么,
为什么纳粹党的领导者们 专心致力于消灭艺术呢?
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degenerate art.
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They were burning books and paintings.
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But why,
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如果艺术真的没有力量,
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why were the leaders of the Nazi party
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如果真的在是愚蠢的浪费时间的话,
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dedicating their attention to destroying art?
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那么为什么独裁者们害怕它呢?
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If art really has no power,
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为什么纳粹们要烧毁书和画呢?
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if it's really a silly waste of time,
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为什么麦卡锡在 1950 年代 那么一心要把艺术家列入黑名单呢?
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then why are dictators afraid of it?
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为什么斯大林的政府那么专注于 审查在俄罗斯的艺术家呢?
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Why were Nazis burning books and paintings?
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Why was McCarthy so dedicated to blacklisting artists in the 1950s?
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因为艺术使独裁者畏惧。
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Why was Stalin's government so focused on censoring artists in Russia?
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因为他们明白这个
我纠结了一生去弄懂的事情。
艺术是强大的。 艺术是重要的。
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Because art scares dictators.
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艺术可以改变 整个世界的心灵和思想。
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Because they understood something
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that I've been struggling to understand my entire life.
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在 1894 年,俄罗斯作家列夫·托尔斯泰 (Leo Tolstoy) 写了《天国在你们心中》。
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Art is powerful. Art is important.
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Art can change hearts and minds all the way across the world.
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这是一本提倡非暴力的书。
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In 1894, Russian author, Leo Tolstoy wrote "The Kingdom of God Is Within You".
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1920 年代,圣雄甘地 (Mahatma Gandhi) 将托尔斯泰的书列为
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It's a book that advocates for nonviolence.
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对他人生产生的最重要 的影响的三本书其一。
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In the 1920s, Mahatma Gandhi listed Tolstoy's book
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托尔斯泰启发了甘地。
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as one of the three most important influences in his life.
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那你知道甘地启发了谁吗?
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So Tolstoy inspired Gandhi.
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马丁·路德·金。
所以如果托尔斯泰 从没有写他的书的话,
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And you know who Gandhi inspired?
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美国的民权运动会 发生怎样的变化呢?
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Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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So how would the civil rights movement in America have changed
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托尔斯泰的书启发了 人们去真正改变了世界。
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if Tolstoy had never written his book?
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Would I even be here talking to you now?
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在民权运动中,
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Tolstoy's book made real changes in the world by inspiring people.
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黑人会手拉手的站在一起
被警察和警犬攻击
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During the civil rights struggle,
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同时唱着福音歌。
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Black people would stand hand in hand
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as police and dogs attacked us
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那些歌,
是艺术激励了这些人,
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and we'd sing gospel songs.
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并帮助了他们渡过难关。
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Those songs,
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行动主义是我们改变世界的方式。
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that art inspired these people
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也有不同参与行动主义的方式。
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and it helped them make it through.
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艺术是我的方式。
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Activism is how we change the world.
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And there are different ways to engage in activism.
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所以我回到了美国,
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And for me, that way is art.
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然后写了关于我之前提出了所有问题:
警察暴力执法, 性别主义,种族主义。
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So I came back to the States
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and I wrote about all those issues that I mentioned before:
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坦白讲,我不知道这个世界 能如何从我这里得到它。
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the police brutality, the sexism, the racism.
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我只知道我再也不想把 我的生命花在我不在乎的事情上了。
09:50
Honestly, I didn't know how the world was going to receive it from me.
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所以我雇了一位漫画家,
09:54
I just knew that I was tired of giving my life
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我开始了众筹
09:57
to things that I didn't care about.
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然后我的漫画小说变成了 《燃烧的节拍器》。
10:02
So I hired a comic book artist,
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这是一个关于从人类残暴中 吸取魔法能量的异界生物的
10:04
I ran a Kickstarter campaign
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超自然谋杀推理小说。
10:07
and my graphic novel became "The Burning Metronome."
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10:11
It's a supernatural murder mystery about otherworldly creatures
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他们观察人类,
并且给我们机会去 在慈悲和残暴间选择。
10:15
who absorb magical power from human cruelty.
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10:19
They watch human beings
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在其中一个故事里, 一个警察有机会去回到过去
10:21
and they give us the chance to choose between compassion and cruelty.
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去选择不去做他对一个人 使用的不必要的暴力行为。
10:27
In one of the stories a police officer has an opportunity to go back
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所以我写完这本书 的后结果是什么呢?
10:31
and undo a time when he was unnecessarily violent to someone.
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我被电视新闻和报纸采访。
大学邀请我去教 他们的研究生写作课。
10:38
So what happened as a result of me writing this book?
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10:40
I was interviewed on TV news, newspapers.
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我现在是名教授。
但是更重要的是,
10:44
The university invited me to teach writing in their master's program.
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我可以触碰到我自己的心,
将我灵魂最真实的部分拿出来,
10:49
I'm a professor now.
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并看着它对别人的 生活产生积极的影响。
10:51
But more importantly,
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10:53
I was able to reach into my heart,
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pull out the truest parts of my soul
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10:58
and see it have a positive impact on other people's lives.
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我在这个漫画书店签书,
然后这个人和 我聊了 20 分钟左右。
最后他说我的书让他思考 他是如何做他的工作的。
11:06
I was signing books in this comic book store
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and this man made small talk with me for about 20 minutes.
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我理所应当地问他,你是做什么的?
11:13
Eventually he said that my book made him think about how he does his job.
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他是一名警官。
所以我的书让一名警官思考 他是如何做他的工作的。
11:18
So of course I asked, what do you do for a living?
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11:21
He was a police officer.
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11:25
So my book made a police officer think about how he does his job.
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在我卖保险的时候这从来没发生过。
我以写漫画书和漫画小说为生。
现在我是个专职艺术家。
11:34
That never happened when I sold insurance.
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如果我从没有写过那本书的话,
你们现在谁也不会在听我讲话。
11:39
I write comic books and graphic novels for a living.
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而且听好,关于在这个 国家里致死的趋向,
11:42
Now I'm a full-time artist.
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我的父母对我的警告并没有错。
11:44
If I hadn't written that book,
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11:46
none of you would be listening to me right now.
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就在去年,
一个白人至上主义者给我发了关于
11:49
And listen, my parents weren't wrong to warn me
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一本我还没有写完的 书的我死亡威胁。
11:52
about the lethal tendencies of this country.
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很明显的是他会觉得被威胁
11:54
Just last year,
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是因为他意识到了艺术的力量
11:56
a white supremacist sent me death threats
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11:58
over a book that I hadn't even finished writing yet.
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可以改变整个世界的心灵和思想。
12:00
But obviously the only reason he was threatened
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所以我现在告诉你,
12:04
is because he recognized the power of art
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如果你有任何想创作的艺术,
12:06
to change hearts and minds all the way across the world.
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如果你心里有任何东西 , 如果你有想说的话,
我们现在需要你。
12:11
So I say to you now,
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12:13
if there's any art you want to create,
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你的艺术可以是激进主义。
12:15
if there's something in your heart, if you have something to say,
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他可以激励人们并且改变世界。
12:18
we need you now.
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如果你害怕的话,没关系。
但是不要让它阻止你。
12:21
Your art can be activism.
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去创作艺术然后令独裁者害怕吧。
12:24
It can inspire people and change the world.
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12:27
If you're afraid, that's OK.
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艺术值得吗?
12:29
Just don't let it stop you.
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当然了。
12:31
Go make art and scare a dictator.
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谢谢。
12:35
Is art worth it?
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12:37
Hell yeah.
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12:39
Thank you.
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