How artists can (finally) get paid in the digital age | Jack Conte

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2017-08-30 ใƒป TED


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How artists can (finally) get paid in the digital age | Jack Conte

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Jeongguk Jang ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:12
Hi everyone.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:14
So, I'm going to take us back to 2007.
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2007๋…„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธธ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ ์š”.
00:17
I'd just spent about six months working on album
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6๊ฐœ์›”์ฏค ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๋˜ ์•จ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:20
that I'd poured my heart and my soul into,
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์—ด์ •๊ณผ ์ •์„ฑ์„ ์Ÿ์•„ ๋ถ€์—ˆ๊ณ 
00:22
and it was getting about three plays per day on Myspace at the time,
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๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ์กฐํšŒ์ˆ˜๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฃจ 3ํšŒ ์ •๋„์˜€์–ด์š”.
00:25
and I was getting more and more depressed when I started noticing these other people
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ ์  ์ง€์น˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
00:29
who were playing guitar and singing
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๊ธฐํƒ€๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋…ธ๋ž˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด๋“ค ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
00:31
and putting videos on this new site called YouTube,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹œ์—” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด
00:33
and they were getting 300,000 views.
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30๋งŒ๋ช…์ด ๊ทธ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ดค์ง€์š”.
00:35
So I decided I'm going to start making some Youtube videos.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ € ์—ญ์‹œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ์•„ ํƒ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
And one day they featured a video of my band on the homepage,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋Š๋‚  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋œจ๋Š” ์˜์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™”์–ด์š”.
00:41
which was amazing -- we got a bunch of new fans.
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๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋†€๋ผ์› ์–ด์š”. ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํŒฌ๋“ค์ด ๋–ผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
00:43
We also got a bunch of people
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์ด๋“ค ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ๋Š”
00:45
who, I guess, just didn't really like the music or something --
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์ถ”์ธก๊ฑด๋Œ€ ์•ˆํ‹ฐํŒฌ๋„ ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€์š”.
00:48
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:49
It's OK because people started coming to our shows,
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์ข‹์•„์š”. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ๊ณต์—ฐ์— ์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
00:51
and we started touring,
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ํˆฌ์–ด๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
00:53
and we came out with a record.
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์Œ๋ฐ˜๋„ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:54
And when I checked our bank account balance
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์€ํ–‰ ์ž”๊ณ ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ–ˆ๋”๋‹ˆ
00:56
after our first monthly iTunes payout,
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์•„์ดํŠ ์ฆˆ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›์€ ์ฒซ๋‹ฌ ์ˆ˜์ž…์ด
00:58
we had 22,000 bucks in it,
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2๋งŒ 2์ฒœ๋ถˆ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:00
which was amazing because at the time I was living at my dad's house,
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๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋†€๋ผ์› ์–ด์š”. ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
01:03
trying to make a living as a musician by uploading videos to the internet
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ์˜์ƒ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด์„œ ์‚ด๋ฆผ์„ ๊พธ๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฎค์ง€์…˜์ด์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:06
which literally zero people respected in 2009 --
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2009๋…„ ๋‹น์‹œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๋ณด์ž˜ ๊ฒƒ ์—†๋Š” ํ™œ๋™์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:09
even the people who were uploading videos to the internet.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
01:12
And so for the next four years,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„ 4๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ
01:14
I uploaded more and more videos to the Internet,
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์ ์  ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์ƒ์„ ์—…๋กœ๋“œ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
01:17
and they got better and better,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์–ด์š”.
01:19
and we made enough money through brand deals
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฆ„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:22
and commercials and iTunes sales
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๊ด‘๊ณ ๋‚˜ ์•„์ดํŠ ์ฆˆ ์ˆ˜์ž…๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:25
to buy a house.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ง‘๋„ ํ•œ ์ฑ„ ์žฅ๋งŒํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:27
And we built a recording studio.
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๋…น์Œ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค๋„ ์ง€์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:29
But there was one big problem:
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:31
making money as a creative person in 2013 was super weird.
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2013๋…„ ๋‹น์‹œ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:36
First of all, the business models were changing all the time.
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๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒ„๋Š” ๊ตฌ์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์‹œ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:39
So our 58,000 dollars of annual iTunes download income
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ดํŠ ์ฆˆ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ 5๋งŒ 8์ฒœ๋ถˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
01:43
was about to be replaced by about 6,000 dollars of streaming income.
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์ด ๋œจ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ž…์€ 6์ฒœ๋ถˆ๋กœ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:46
Steams paid less than downloads.
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์€ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ณด๋‹ค ์†Œ๋“์ด ์ ์–ด์š”.
01:48
And then as more and more creators started popping up online,
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๋˜ํ•œ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ƒ์— ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ๋“ค์ด ์ ์  ๋ชจ์—ฌ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
01:51
there was just more competition for these five-figure brand deals
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๋‹ค์„ฏ ์ž๋ฆฌ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์†์—์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์•„์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:54
that had kept the band afloat for years.
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๊ทธ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋…„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
And to top it all off, our videos themselves --
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์—Ž์นœ ๋ฐ ๋ฎ์นœ ๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ, ์˜์ƒ ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€
01:59
the creative stuff that we made that our fans loved and appreciated --
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋˜ ํŒฌ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋˜
02:03
that were actually contributing value to the world,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋ฆ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ทธ ์˜์ƒ๋“ค
02:05
those videos were generating almost zero dollars of income for us.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ๋Š” ํ•œ ํ‘ผ๋„ ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
02:08
This is an actual snapshot of my YouTube dashboard
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์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ œ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ์บก์ณํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:11
from a 28-day period
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28์ผ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋“ค์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
02:12
that shows one million views
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๋ฐฑ๋งŒ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
02:14
and 166 dollars of ad earnings for those views.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฒˆ ๋ˆ์€ 166๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜€์–ด์š”.
02:18
The whole machine in 2013
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2013๋…„์— ์žฅ๋งŒํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์„
02:21
that took art online and outputted money
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์ฃผ๋˜ ๊ทธ ์žฅ๋น„๋“ค์ด ๋”์ด์ƒ ์“ธ๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:24
was totally nonfunctional.
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02:26
It doesn't matter if you're a newspaper,
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์‹ ๋ฌธ์ด๊ฑด
02:29
or an institution,
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๊ธฐ์—…์ด๊ฑด
02:31
or an independent creator.
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ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋žœ์„œ๊ฑด ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
02:32
A monthly web comic with 20,000 monthly readers --
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์›”๊ฐ„ 2๋งŒ ๋…์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์›น๋งŒํ™”๋Š”
02:36
20,000 monthly readers --
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๊ทธ๋‹ฌ์˜ ๋…์ž๊ฐ€ 2๋งŒ ๋ช…์ผํ…๋ฐ์š”.
02:38
gets paid a couple hundred bucks in ad revenue.
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๊ด‘๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ž…์œผ๋กœ 200๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฒ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:40
This is 20,000 people.
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2๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด์—์š”.
02:43
Like, in what world is this not enough?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์–ด๋””๋“ ์ง€, ์ด ์ •๋„๋ฉด ์ถฉ๋ถ„์น˜ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
02:47
I don't understand.
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์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”.
02:49
What systems have we built where this is insufficient
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋Š” ๋„๋Œ€์ฒด ๋ญ˜๊นŒ์š”? ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋จน๊ณ  ์‚ด๊ธฐ ์กฐ์ฐจ
02:52
for a person to make a living?
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์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
02:54
So, I actually have a theory about this.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ด ์ง€์ ์—์„œ ์ €๋Š” ํ•œ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด๋ก ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
02:56
I think it's been a weird 100 years.
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๊ธฐ๋ฌ˜ํ–ˆ๋˜ 100๋…„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด์—์š”.
02:58
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:59
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
03:01
About 100 years ago,
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100๋…„์ฆ˜ ์ „์—
03:03
humans figured out how to record sound onto a wax cylinder.
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋Š” ๋ฐ€๋‚ฉ์›ํ†ต์— ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ด์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:07
That was the beginning of the phonograph.
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ํ‘œ์Œ์‹ ์ฒ ์ž๋ฒ•์˜ ์‹œ์ดˆ์ด์ง€์š”.
03:09
Right around the same time,
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๊ทธ์™€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์—
03:10
we figured out how to record light onto a piece of photographic paper,
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์ธํ™”์šฉ์ง€์— ๋น›์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ณ ์•ˆํ•ด ๋‚ด์ง€์š”.
03:14
celluloid -- the beginning of film and television.
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์…€๋ฃฐ๋กœ์ด๋“œ๋Š” ์˜ํ™”๋‚˜ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ ผ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘์ ์ด์—์š”.
03:16
For the first time, you could store art on a thing,
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ €์žฅํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
03:19
which was amazing.
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์‹ค๋กœ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด์ฃ .
03:20
Art used to be completely ephemeral,
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์€ ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์ˆ˜๋ช…์ด ์งง์•˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:22
so if you missed the symphony, you just didn't get to hear the orchestra.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ตํ–ฅ๊ณก์„ ๋†“์ณค๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ๊ณก์„ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๊ฒ ์ง€์š”.
03:25
But now, for the first time,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€์š”, ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ
03:27
you could store the orchestra's performance on a physical object,
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๊ตํ–ฅ์•…๋‹จ์˜ ๊ณก์„ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌผ์งˆ์—๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ €์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:31
and like, listen to it later,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:33
which was amazing.
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์–ด๋งˆ์–ด๋งˆ ํ•˜์ง€์š”.
03:34
It was so amazing in fact,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:36
that for the next 100 years, between 1900 and 2000,
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20์„ธ๊ธฐ 100๋…„๊ฐ„
03:39
humans built just billions and billions of dollars of infrastructure
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์‹ญ์–ต๋ถˆ ๊ฐ€์น˜์˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์‹œ์„ค์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
03:44
to essentially help artists do two things.
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์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์€ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:46
First, put their art on a thing,
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋‹ด์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๊ฒŒ ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ๊ณ ์š”.
03:48
and second, get that thing around the world
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ณณ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ํผํŠธ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:50
to the people who wanted the art.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์„ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋กœ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:52
So, so much industry is devoted to these two problems.
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์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฐ์—…์ด ๋ชฐ๋‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€์ ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ˆ์š”.
03:55
Oh my gosh, there are trucking companies,
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์•„์ด๊ตฌ์•ผ, ๋ฌด์—ญํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค ์žˆ์ž–์•„์š”.
03:57
and brick-and-mortar and marketing firms, and CD jewel case manufacturers,
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์†Œ๋งค ์—…์ฒด๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๋”” ์ผ€์ด์Šค ์ œ์กฐ๊ณต์žฅ
04:01
all devoted to these two problems.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋ชฐ๋‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
04:04
And then we all know what happened.
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๊ทธ ์ดํ›„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
04:07
10 years ago, the internet matures
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10๋…„ ์ „์— ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ๊ณ ์š”.
04:08
and we get Spotify and Facebook and YouTube
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์Šคํฌํ‹ฐ์ฐจ์ด, ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ, ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ๋„ ๋‚˜์™”์–ด์š”.
04:10
and iTunes and Google search,
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์•„์ดํŠ ์ฆˆ, ๊ตฌ๊ธ€ ํƒ์ƒ‰
04:12
and a hundred years of infrastructure
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํšŒ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜ ์‹œ์„ค์—ญ์‹œ 100๋…„๊ฐ„ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:15
and supply chains and distribution systems
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์ƒํ’ˆ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๊ณผ์ •๊ณผ ๋ถ„๋ฐฐ ์ฒด๊ณ„
04:18
and monetization schemes
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๊ฐ๊ตญ์˜ ํ™”ํ ์ œ๋„๋“ค
04:20
are completely bypassed --
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ฑด๋„ˆ ๋›ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
04:22
in a decade.
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10๋…„ ๋งŒ์—์š”.
04:24
After 100 years of designing these things,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ์•ˆ๋˜๊ณ  100๋…„ ํ›„
04:27
it's no wonder that it's just totally broken for creative people right now.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ง๊ฐ€์ ธ ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€์— ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ .
04:31
It's no wonder that the monetization part of the chain doesn't work
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๊ทธ ์—ฐ์‡„ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ํ†ตํ™”์ œ๋„๋Š” ๋ณ„๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜์ง€์š”.
04:34
given this new context.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋งฅ๋ฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
04:37
But what gets me super excited to be a creator right now,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ ๋ชน์‹œ ํฅ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง€์ ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
04:42
to be alive today and be a creative person right now,
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์‚ด์•„ ์ˆจ์‰ฌ๊ณ , ์ฐฝ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
04:44
is realizing that we're only 10 years into figuring out this new machine --
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ์ž‘ 10๋…„ ๋ฐ–์— ์•ˆ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”.
04:51
to figuring out the next 100 years of infrastructure for our creators.
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ ํ–ฅํ›„ 100๋…„๊ฐ„ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
04:55
And you can tell we're only 10 years in.
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์ง„์ž…ํ•œ ์ง€ ์ด์ œ 10๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚ฌ์„ ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ .
04:57
There's a lot of trial and error, some really good ideas forming,
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜•์„ฑ๋˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ณผ์ •์— ์‹œํ–‰์ฐฉ์˜ค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
05:00
a lot of experimentation.
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์ˆ˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹คํ—˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ์ฃ .
05:01
We're figuring out what works and what doesn't.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์•ˆ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
Like Twitch streamers. Who's heard of Twitch?
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ํŠธ์œ„์น˜ ํ‹ฐ๋น„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋จธ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”. ํŠธ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
05:05
Twitch streamers are making three to five thousand bucks a month
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ํŠธ์œ„์น˜ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— 3์ฒœ์—์„œ 5์ฒœ๋ถˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์–ด๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
05:09
streaming gaming content.
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๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ์š”.
05:10
The big ones are making over 100,000 dollars a year.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์œ ์ €์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์—ฐ ์†Œ๋“์ด 10๋งŒ๋ถˆ์„ ๋›ฐ์–ด ๋„˜์–ด์š”.
05:15
There's a site called YouNow,
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์ด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์œ ๋‚˜์šฐ์—์š”.
05:16
it's an app.
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์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์ด์ฃ .
05:18
It allows musicians and vloggers to get paid in digital goods from fans.
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์Œ์•…์ธ, ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ฑฐ๋“ค์€ ํŒฌ๋“ค๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์ƒํ’ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:22
So, I'm also working on the problem.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
Four years ago I started a company called Patreon
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4๋…„ ์ „์— ํŒจํŠธ๋ ˆ์˜จ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์šด์˜์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:26
with a friend of mine.
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ํ•œ ๋ช…๊ณผ ๋™์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:28
We're 80 people now working on this problem.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 80๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆ™๊ณ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
It's basically a membership platform
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํšŒ์›์ œ๋กœ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
05:33
that makes it really easy for creators to get paid --
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๊ฐ€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
every month from their fans to earn a living.
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๋งค๋‹ฌ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํŒฌ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ชจ๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
05:39
For a creator, it's like having a salary for being a creative person.
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„ , ์ฐฝ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋ฉฐ ์›”๊ธ‰์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์…ˆ์ด์ฃ .
05:43
And this is one of our creators.
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ถ„์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”.
05:44
They're called "Kinda Funny."
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"ํ‚จ๋‹ค ํผ๋‹ˆ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์š”.
05:46
They have about 220,000 subscribers on YouTube.
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์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์— 22๋งŒ ๋…์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:49
And when they upload a video,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์—…๋กœ๋“œ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
05:51
it gets somewhere around 15,000 views to 100,000 views.
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๋ณดํ†ต ๋งŒ ์˜ค์ฒœ์—์„œ 10๋งŒ ํšŒ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•ด์š”.
05:53
I want you to check yourselves right now.
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์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ™•์ธํ•ด ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ถŒํ•ด๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
I think when we hear numbers like that, when we hear "15,000 views,"
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์ˆซ์ž๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋งŒ์˜ค์ฒœ ๋ทฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด
05:59
and we see content like this,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฐ™์€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด
06:00
we just snap categorize it as being not as legitimate
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋”ธ๊นํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ •๋‹นํ•จ์„ ๋”ฐ์ง€์ง„ ์•Š์ฃ .
06:03
as a morning show that you'd hear on the radio
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์•„์นจ์— ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‹์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ๋•Œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
06:06
or a talk show that you'd see on NBC or something
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด NBC ๋ฐฉ์†ก์˜ ํ† ํฌ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
06:09
But when "Kinda Funny" launched on Patreon,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ "ํ‚จ๋‹ค ํผ๋‹ˆ"๊ฐ€ ํŽ˜ํŠธ๋ ˆ์˜จ์—์„œ ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
06:11
within a few weeks, they were making 31,000 dollars per month
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ง€๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์›” 3๋งŒ ์ฒœ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
for this show.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ์š”.
06:17
It took off so fast that they decided to expand their programming
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํ™•์žฅ ์†๋„๊ฐ€ ๋น ๋ฅด๋˜์ง€ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ํ™•์žฅ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
06:20
and add new shows,
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‡ผ๋„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
06:21
and now they launched a second Patreon page --
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ํŽ˜ํŠธ๋ ˆ์˜จ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ๊ณ ,
06:24
they're making an additional 21,000 dollars per month.
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์ด๋กœ์จ ๋งค์›” 2๋งŒ ์ฒœ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:28
And they're scaling what's essentially becoming a media company,
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ์š”์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–์ถฐ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
06:33
financing the whole thing through membership.
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ํšŒ์›์ œ๋กœ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž๊ธˆ ์กฐ๋‹ฌ์„ ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ์š”.
06:36
OK, here's another example.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์ฃ .
06:37
This is Derek Bodner,
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๋“œ๋ ‰ ๋ณด๋“œ๋„ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
a sports journalist who used to write for Philadelphia Magazine
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ํ•„๋ผ๋ธํ”ผ์•„ ์žก์ง€์— ๊ธ€์„ ์‹ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ์ €๋„๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ ์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
06:42
until a few months ago when the magazine cut out all sports coverage.
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๊ทธ ์žก์ง€์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ์ปค๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ์ค‘๋‹จํ•˜๋ฉฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ํ›„์˜€์–ด์š”.
06:45
Now he writes articles and publishes them on his own website --
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์— ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
he's still covering sports, but for himself.
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ๊ธฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ง„ ๊ฑด ํ˜ผ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
06:50
And he's making 4,800 bucks a month from 1,700 patrons,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  1,700๋ช… ํ›„์›์ž๋กœ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์›”๊ฐ„ 4,800 ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:53
financing it through membership.
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ํšŒ์›์ œ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ์กฐ๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
06:55
This is Crash Course --
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํฌ๋ž˜์‹œ ์ฝ”์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:56
free educational content for the world.
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๋ฌด๋ฃŒ ๊ต์œก ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋กœ ์—ด๋ ค ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
06:59
This show is actually on the PBS digital network --
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์ด ๋ฐฉ์†ก์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ณต์˜ ๋ฐฉ์†ก๋ง ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
07:01
29,000 dollars per month.
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๋งค ๋‹ฌ 2๋งŒ 9์ฒœ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
This is a duo sailing around the world,
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ณณ๊ณณ์„ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” 2์ธ์กฐ ํ•ญํ•ด์‚ฌ์˜ˆ์š”.
07:05
getting paid every month for documenting their travels
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๋งค๋‹ฌ ํ›„์›์„ ๋ฐ›์•„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์—ฌ์ •์„ ๋ฌธ์„œ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:08
from 1,400 patrons.
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ํ›„์›์ž๋Š” 1,400๋ช…์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:09
This is a podcast, "Chapo Trap House", making --
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"์ฐจํฌ ํŠธ๋žฉ ํ•˜์šฐ์Šค"๋ผ๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
07:12
actually, since I screenshotted this,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์บก์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์ดํ›„
07:14
they're making an additional 2,000 dollars per month,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์›” ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ 2,000๋ถˆ์„ ๋” ์ง€์› ๋ฐ›์•˜์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ,
07:16
so they're now making 56,000 dollars per month for their podcast.
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๋งค์›” 56,000๋ถˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
07:21
And Patreon's not the only one working on the problem.
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ํŒจํŠธ๋ ˆ์˜จ์ด ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ์œ ์ผํ•œ ํ•ด๋ฒ•์ธ ๊ฑด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
07:23
Even Google's starting to work on this.
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ๋„ ์ด ์ž‘์—…์— ์ฐฉ์ˆ˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:25
A couple years ago, they launched Fan Funding;
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2๋…„์ฆ˜ ์ „, ํŒฌ ํŽ€๋”ฉ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:27
more recently, they launched Super Chat
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๋” ์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š” ์Šˆํผ ์ฑ—์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:29
as a way for creators to monetize live streaming.
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ๊ธˆ์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด์—์š”.
07:32
Newspapers are starting to experiment with membership.
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์‹ ๋ฌธ์‚ฌ๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํšŒ์›๋“ค์„ ๋Œ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๋„๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:34
New York Times has a membership program;
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๋‰ด์š•ํƒ€์ž„์ฆˆ๋Š” ํšŒ์›์ œ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
07:36
The Guardian has over 200,000 paying subscribers
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๊ฐ€๋””์–ธ์ง€๋Š” ์œ ๋ฃŒ ๊ตฌ๋…์ž๋งŒ 20๋งŒ์„ ๋„˜๋Š”๋ฐ
07:38
to its membership program.
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ํšŒ์›์ œ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
07:40
There's this bubbling soup of ideas and experiments
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์•„์ง์€ ํ•œ์ฐฝ ์ง„ํ–‰์ค‘์ธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๊ณ  ์‹คํ—˜๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
07:45
and progress right now,
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์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์—๋„ ์ง„ํ–‰์ค‘์ด๊ณ ์š”.
07:46
and it's pointing in the direction of getting creators paid.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์€ ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž์˜ ์ˆ˜์ž…์„ ๋ณด์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ชฝ์ด์—์š”.
07:50
And it's working.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:51
It's not, like, perfect yet,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์•„์ง ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜์ง„ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ฃ .
07:53
but it's really working.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:54
So, Patreon has over 50,000 creators on the platform making salaries --
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ํŒจํŠธ๋ ˆ์˜จ์—๋Š” 5๋งŒ ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋“ค์ด ์›”๊ธ‰์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:59
getting paid every month for putting art online,
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๋งค๋‹ฌ ๋ณด์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฃ .
08:02
for being a creative person.
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์ฐฝ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์˜ˆ์š”.
08:05
The next hundred years of infrastructure is on the way
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๊ธธ์ด ์ด์–ด์ ธ 100๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด,
08:09
and it's going to be different this time because of this --
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์ ธ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—์š”.
08:12
because of the direct connection between the person who makes the thing
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์ง์ ‘ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹ ๋ง์ด์—์š”. ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ
08:15
and the person who likes the thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ง์ ‘ ์ด์–ด์ฃผ์ฃ .
08:19
About seven or eight years ago,
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7, 8๋…„์ฆ˜ ์ „์—
08:21
I went to a cocktail party.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์นตํ…Œ์ผ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
08:24
This is when the band had hit our first machine,
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์ฒ˜์Œ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋™์‹œ์ผฐ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
08:26
so things were really cranking.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ๊ดด์งœ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์–ด์š”.
08:28
We had just made about 400,000 dollars in one year
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๊ทธ์ € 1๋…„์— 40๋งŒ๋ถˆ์ฆ˜ ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ด์ฃ .
08:30
through iTunes sales and brand deals and stuff like that.
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์•„์ดํŠ ์ฆˆ๋‚˜ ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ ์ˆ˜์ž…์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:33
And this guy comes up to me and says,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
"Hey, Jack, what do you do?"
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"์ด๋ด, ์žญ, ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜?"
08:37
I said, "I'm a musician."
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์ €๋Š” ์Œ์•…ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
08:39
And he just sobered up immediately,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ง„์ง€ํ•ด์ง€๋”๋‹ˆ,
08:43
and he stuck out his hand,
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๋ถˆ์‘ฅ ์†์„ ๋‚ด๋ฐ€์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:45
put a hand on my shoulder,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ ์†์€ ์ œ ์–ด๊นจ์— ์˜ฌ๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
08:46
and in a real earnest, very nice voice he was like,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณค ์ •๋ง ์ง„์‹ฌ์–ด๋ฆฐ, ๋˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
08:50
"I hope you make it someday."
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"์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋„ค๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๋‚ด๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋„ค."
08:51
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
08:54
And ...
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ...
08:57
I have so many moments like that logged in my memory.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
09:01
I just cringe thinking of that.
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๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข€ ์›€์ธ ๋Ÿฌ๋“ค์–ด์š”.
09:04
It's so embarrassing to just not feel valued as a creative person.
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์ฐฝ์กฐ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ธ์ •๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋‚œ์ฒ˜ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:10
But as a species,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ธ๋ฅ˜์˜ ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ฅ˜๋กœ์„œ
09:12
we are leaving that cocktail party behind.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ๊ทธ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ๋’ค๋กœ ๋น ์ ธ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:15
We're leaving that culture,
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๊ทธ ๋ฌธํ™”๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์˜ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ด์ด์ง€์š”.
09:17
we're out of there.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์˜ ์™ธ๋ถ€์— ์™€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:19
We're going to get so good at paying creators,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ›„์› ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋” ์ข‹์•„์งˆ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:21
within 10 years,
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10๋…„ ๋‚ด์— ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:24
kids graduating high school and college are going to think of being a creator
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต์™€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ๋‚˜์˜จ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ• ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
as just being an option --
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์ง„๋กœ์˜ ์„ ํƒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:29
I could be a doctor, I could be a lawyer,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ ํ…Œ์•ผ.
09:31
I could be a podcaster, I could have a web comic.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์Šคํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์›น ๋งŒํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
09:33
It's just going to be something you can do.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:35
We're figuring it out.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์•Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:37
It's going to be a viable and sustainable and respected profession.
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์‹คํ–‰๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์ „๋ฌธ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ์กด์ค‘๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:41
Creators are going to come out the other end of this weird 100 years,
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋“ค์ด ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ํ•œ ์„ธ๊ธฐ์˜ ๋ ๋ฌด๋ ต์— ์Ÿ์•„์ ธ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:44
this century-long journey,
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ํ•œ ์„ธ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ธด ์—ฌ์ •์ผํ…Œ์ฃ .
09:47
with an awesome new machine.
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๋†€๋ž„๋งŒํ•œ ์ƒˆ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋“ค๋„ ๋‚˜์˜ฌํ…Œ์ฃ .
09:49
And they're going to be paid, and they're going to be valued.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ์ธ์ •๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
09:53
Thanks, everybody.
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๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:54
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
10:00
I think it went pretty well.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์ž˜ ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ตฐ์š”.
10:03
I want artists who saw that to not give up --
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์ €๋Š” ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ์ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•œ
10:06
to know that we're getting there.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์•ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์•„ํ‹ฐ์ŠคํŠธ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
10:10
It's not there yet,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์•„์ง์€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„์น˜ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
but in a couple years,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์•ˆ์—
10:15
there will be so many systems and tools for them
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์ฐฝ์ž‘์ž๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๊ณผ ์žฅ์น˜๋“ค์ด ๋งˆ๋ จ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
10:17
to just make a living online,
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ƒ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊พธ๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์ฃ .
10:19
and if they've got a podcast that's starting to take off,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ๋„
10:22
but they're not able to make money on it yet,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ˆ˜์ž…์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
10:24
that's happening
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10:26
and they're going to be paid.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
10:27
It's happening.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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