Why you should love gross science | Anna Rothschild

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Did you know that one of the first fertility drugs
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๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Miji Kim ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jihyeon J. Kim
์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง„ ์ž„์‹  ์ด‰์ง„์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€
00:04
was made from the pee of Catholic nuns,
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์นดํ†จ๋ฆญ ์ˆ˜๋…€๋‹˜๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ๋ณ€์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•„์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
00:09
and that even the Pope got involved?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ตํ™ฉ๋‹˜๋„ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„์š”?
00:12
So, this is totally true.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
00:13
Back in the 1950s, scientists knew that when women enter menopause,
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1950๋…„๋„์—, ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐฑ๋…„๊ธฐ์— ์ ‘์–ด๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
00:19
they start releasing high levels of fertility hormones in their urine.
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์†Œ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์–‘์˜ ์ž„์‹  ํ˜ธ๋ฅด๋ชฌ์ด ๊ฒ€์ถœ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:24
But there was this doctor named Bruno Lunenfeld,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ธŒ๋ฃจ๋…ธ ๋ฃจ๋„จํŽ ๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์†Œ๋ณ€์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
00:27
who wondered if he could actually isolate those hormones from the urine
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๊ทธ ํ˜ธ๋ฅด๋ชฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž„์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๋Š”
00:31
and use it to help women who are having trouble getting pregnant.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋„๋ก ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆ์ฆ์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:34
Obviously, the problem with this was that in order to test this idea,
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๋ช…๋ฐฑํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„, ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์‹คํ–‰์— ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ ์€
00:38
he needed a lot of pee from older women.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด๋“  ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ๋ณ€์–‘์ด ์•„์ฃผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
00:43
And that is not an easy thing to find.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์š”.
00:45
So he and his colleagues got special permission from the Pope
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋Š” ๊ตํ™ฉ๋‹˜์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
00:51
to collect gallons and gallons of urine
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์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ๋ช…์˜ ๋‚˜์ด๋“  ์ˆ˜๋…€๋‹˜๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ๋ณ€์„
00:55
from hundreds of older Catholic nuns.
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์–ด๋งˆ์–ด๋งˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์ด ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน๋ณ„ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
And in doing so,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„œ
01:01
he actually isolated hormones
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ˜ธ๋ฅด๋ชฌ์„ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
01:03
that are still used to help women get pregnant today,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์˜ ์ž„์‹ ์„ ๋•๋Š”๋ฐ ์“ฐ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:06
though now, they can be synthesized in a lab,
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์‹ค์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ์—
01:09
and gallons of pee aren't necessary.
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๋”์ด์ƒ ๋งŽ์€ ์–‘์˜ ์†Œ๋ณ€์€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:12
So why am I standing up here,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•ž์— ์„œ์„œ
01:14
telling this wonderfully intellectual audience about nun pee?
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์ง€์ ์ธ ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜๋…€๋‹˜์˜ ์†Œ๋ณ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
01:21
Well, I'm a science journalist and multimedia producer,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ณผํ•™๊ธฐ์ž์ด์ž ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด ํ”„๋กœ๋“€์„œ์ด๊ณ 
01:24
who has always been fascinated by gross stuff.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋งค๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:29
So fascinated, in fact, that I started a weekly YouTube series
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งค๋ฃŒ๋˜์„œ, "์ง€์ €๋ถ„ํ•œ ๊ณผํ•™" ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:33
called "Gross Science,"
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01:34
all about the slimy, smelly, creepy underbelly
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์ž์—ฐ๊ณ„, ์˜ํ•™์™€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ˆจ๊ฒจ์ง„
01:39
of nature, medicine and technology.
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๋ˆ์ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์ง•๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ธก๋ฉด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด์—์š”.
01:42
Now, I think most of us would agree
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์†Œ๋ณ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
01:44
that there's something a little gross about pee.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋™์˜ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.
01:47
You know, it's something that we don't really like to talk about,
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๋ญ, ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
01:50
and we keep the act of doing it very private.
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์ผ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ด์ฃ .
01:53
But when Lunenfeld peered into the world of pee,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฃจ๋„จํŽ ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์†Œ๋ณ€์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ,
01:57
he discovered something deeply helpful to humanity.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ธ๋ฅ˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
02:00
And after a year and a half of making my show,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ 1๋…„๋ฐ˜ ๋™์•ˆ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€,
02:04
I can tell you that very often when we explore the gross side of life,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํƒ๊ตฌํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
02:09
we find insights that we never would have thought we'd find,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋„ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
02:12
and we even often reveal beauty that we didn't think was there.
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์ข…์ข… ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋„ ๋ชปํ•œ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—์š”.
02:16
I think it's important for us to talk about gross things for a few reasons.
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์ €๋Š” ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
02:21
So, first of all, talking about gross stuff
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋Š”
02:23
is a great tool for education,
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๊ต์œก์˜ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ฉฐ,
02:26
and it's an excellent way to preserve curiosity.
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๊ถ๊ธˆ์ฆ์„ ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:30
To explain what I mean,
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์•ž์„œ
02:31
why don't I tell you a little bit about what I was like as a child?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆด๊ฒŒ์š”.
02:36
So, I was what you might call a gross kid.
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฝ๊ธฐ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆด ๋ฒ•ํ•œ ์•„์ด์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
02:41
In fact, my love of science itself
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณผํ•™์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
02:44
began when my parents bought me a slime chemistry set
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ํ™”ํ•™์„ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ์…จ์„ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๊ณ ,
02:47
and was then only enhanced
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๊ทธ ํ›„, 6ํ•™๋…„ ์ƒ๋ฌผ์ˆ˜์—…์‹œ๊ฐ„์—
02:50
by doing gross experiments in my sixth-grade biology class.
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์ง•๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹คํ—˜๋“ค์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:53
We did things like, we swabbed surfaces around our classroom
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์‹คํ—˜ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ต์‹ค์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ๋ฉด๋ด‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌธ์งˆ๋Ÿฌ์„œ ํ‘œ๋ณธ์ฒด์ทจ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ
02:58
and cultured the bacteria we'd collected,
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๋ชจ์€ ๋ฐ•ํ…Œ๋ฆฌ์•„๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์–‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
03:01
and we dissected owl pellets,
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๋˜, ๋ถ€์—‰์ด์˜ ๊ณ ํ˜• ํŽ ๋ ›์„ ํ•ด๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:03
which are these balls of material that are undigested that owls barf up,
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๊ณ ํ˜• ํŽ ๋ ›์€ ๋ถ€์—‰์ด๊ฐ€ ์†Œํ™”์‹œํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ด์„œ ํ† ํ•œ ๋™๊ทธ๋ž€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—์š”.
03:08
and it's really kind of gross and awesome and cool.
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์ง„์งœ ๋”๋Ÿฝ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ต‰์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฉ‹์ง€์ฃ .
03:12
Now, the fact that I was obsessed with gross stuff as a kid
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
03:15
is not so revolutionary.
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์ „ํ˜€ ์ด์ƒํ•˜์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•Š์ฃ .
03:16
You know, lots of kids are really into gross things,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
03:19
like playing in dirt or collecting beetles or eating their boogers.
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ํ™์žฅ๋‚œ, ๋”ฑ์ •๋ฒŒ๋ž˜ ๋ชจ์œผ๊ธฐ, ์ฝ”๋”ฑ์ง€ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:24
And why is that?
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์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊นŒ์š”?
03:26
I think really little kids are like little explorers.
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์ €๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋ฆฐ ํƒํ—˜๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
03:30
They just want to experience as much as they can
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ณ 
03:33
and don't have any idea about the relative acceptability
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๋ฌด๋‹น๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ์™€ ๋…ธ๋ฆฐ์žฌ์ค‘ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ์ ธ๋„ ๋ ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
03:37
of touching a ladybug versus a stinkbug.
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์ƒ๋Œ€์  ์ˆ˜์šฉ์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
03:40
They just want to understand how everything works
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ณ 
03:43
and experience as much of life as they can.
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์‚ถ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:45
And that is pure curiosity.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๊ถ๊ธˆ์ฆ์ด์ฃ .
03:48
But then adults step in,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐœ์ž…ํ•˜์ฃ .
03:50
and we tell kids not to pick their noses and not to touch the slugs or toads
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ฝ” ํŒŒ์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋ฏผ๋‹ฌํŒฝ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‘๊บผ๋น„ ๋˜๋Š” ๋’ท๋œฐ์—์„œ
03:55
or whatever else they find in the backyard,
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๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ์ง€์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
because those things are gross.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋”๋Ÿฝ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
03:59
And we do that in part to keep kids safe, right?
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์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
04:02
Like, maybe picking your nose spreads germs
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์ฝ”๋”ฑ์ง€๋ฅผ ํŒŒ๋ฉด ์„ธ๊ท ์ด ์˜ฎ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
04:05
and maybe touching that toad will give you warts,
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๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ์ง€๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋งˆ๊ท€๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธธ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:09
even though I don't actually think that's true.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
04:11
You should feel free to touch as many toads as you want.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋‘๊บผ๋น„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋งŒํผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋งŒ์ ธ๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:15
So at a certain point, when kids get a little bit older,
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์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ข€ ๋” ์ž๋ผ์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹œ์ ์ด ๋˜๋ฉด,
04:18
there's this way that engaging with gross stuff
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๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ
04:21
isn't just about curiosity,
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ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
04:22
it's also about, sort of, finding out where the limits are,
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์ œํ•œ์ ์ด ์–ด๋”˜์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ผ์š”.
04:25
pushing the boundaries of what's OK.
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„์ ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
04:28
So, lots of kids of a certain age will have burping competitions
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๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด ๋•Œ์— ๋งŽ์€ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ํŠธ๋ฆผ ์‹œํ•ฉ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
04:32
or competitions to see who can make the grossest face.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ํ‘œ์ •์„ ์ง“๋Š”์ง€ ์‹œํ•ฉ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:36
And they do that in part because it's a little bit transgressive, right?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ‰์†Œ์— ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
04:40
But there's another layer to why we define stuff as gross.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ •์˜ํ•  ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋” ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
04:44
As humans, we've sort of extended the concept of disgust to morality.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„๋•์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ์žฅํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์–ด์š”.
04:51
So, the psychologist Paul Rozin would say
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์ƒ๋ฆฌํ•™์ž ํด ๋ผ์ง„์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ,
04:54
that many of the things we categorize as gross
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด
04:57
are things that reminds us that we're just animals.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋™๋ฌผ์ž„์„ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:01
These are things like bodily fluids and sex
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€, ์ฒด์•ก์ด๋‚˜ ์„ฑ
05:05
and physical abnormalities and death.
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์‹ ์ฒด์  ์žฅ์• ์™€ ์ฃฝ์Œ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:09
And the idea that we're just animals can be really unsettling,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋™๋ฌผ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถˆ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
because it can be this reminder of our own mortality.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์›ํžˆ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์กด์žฌ๋ผ๋Š”๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ 
05:17
And that can leave many of us with this deep existential angst.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์กด์žฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ณ ๋‡Œ์— ๋น ์ง€๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ฃ .
05:22
Rozin would say that there's this way
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๋ผ์ง„์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ,
05:24
in which disgust and the avoidance of gross things
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๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ˜์˜คํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธฐํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
05:29
becomes not just a way to protect our bodies,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชธ์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
05:32
it becomes a way to protect our souls.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ •์‹ ์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
I think at a certain point, kids really begin to internalize
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์–ด๋–ค ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ฉด, ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์˜
05:39
this link between disgusting things and immorality.
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๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ฉดํ™” ์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:43
And while I don't have any concrete data to back up this next idea,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋’ท๋ฐ›์นจํ•  ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ์ž๋ฃŒ๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
05:49
I think that for a lot of us, it happens around the time we hit puberty.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ์‚ฌ์ถ˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
05:55
And you know -- yeah, I know.
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๋ญ, ์‚ฌ์ถ˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ ๋‹ค ์ด๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
05:59
So during puberty, our bodies are changing,
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์‚ฌ์ถ˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋ชธ์— ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:02
and we're sweating more, and girls get their periods,
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๋•€๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚˜๊ณ ์š”, ์—ฌ์ž๋“ค์€ ์›”๊ฒฝ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ฃ .
06:06
and we're thinking about sex in this way that we never did before.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ฑ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ์‹œ์„ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:09
And through the human capacity for abstraction,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€๋ผ, ์ถ”์ƒ์ ์ธ ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋ฉด์„œ
06:12
this shame can settle in.
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์ˆ˜์น˜์‹ฌ์ด ๋“ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
So we don't necessarily just think,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "์–ด๋จธ, ๋‚ด๋ชธ์—
06:17
"Oh, my goodness, something really gross is happening to my body!"
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์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด." ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
06:20
We think, "Oh my God, maybe I'm gross.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” "์–ด๋จธ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋น„์ •์ƒ์ด๊ณ 
06:24
And maybe that means that there's something bad or wrong about me."
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๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜๋ด." ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
06:29
The thing is, that if you de facto associate gross stuff with immorality,
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์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”, ๊ธฐํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ ์ง“๊ฒŒ๋˜๋ฉด
06:34
you lose a huge part of your curiosity,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:37
because there is so much out there in the world
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์„ธ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด
06:40
that is a little bit gross.
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๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
06:41
Like, think about going for a walk in the woods.
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์ˆฒ์†์— ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
06:44
You could just pay attention to the birds and the trees and the flowers
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ƒˆ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋ฌด, ๊ฝƒ๋“ค๋งŒ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
06:48
and that would be fine,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
06:49
but in my view, you'd be missing a bigger and more awesome picture
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋” ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ง€๊ตฌ ์ƒ๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„
06:54
of life on this planet.
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์ง€๋‚˜์น˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
06:56
There are cycles of decay that are driving forest growth,
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์ˆฒ์„ ์ž๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ์‹๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ์ฉ๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
06:59
and there are networks of fungus beneath your feet
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ฐœ ๋ฐ‘์—๋Š” ์ฃผ์œ„์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹๋ฌผ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”
07:02
that are connecting literally all of the plants around you.
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๋ฒ„์„ฏ๋“ค์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๊ณ ๋ฆฌ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:05
That's really amazing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ง„์งœ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:07
So I feel like we should be talking about gross stuff early and often
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋”์šฑ ๋น ๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์ž์ฃผ
07:11
with young people,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ปด์š”.
07:12
so they feel like they're actually allowed to claim this bigger picture
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ตฌ ์ƒ๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ชจ์Šต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ 
07:15
of life on our planet.
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๋Š๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
07:18
The good news is that for many of us, the fascination with gross stuff
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€, ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€
07:22
doesn't exactly go away,
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์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—์š”.
07:24
we just kind of pretend like it's not there.
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๊ทธ์ € ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์—†๋Š” ์ฒ™ ํ• ๋ฟ์ด์ฃ .
07:26
But truthfully, we all spend sort of a big part of our lives
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์†”์งํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
07:31
just trying not to be gross.
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์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
When you really think about it,
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๊ณฐ๊ณฐํžˆ ๋”ฐ์ ธ๋ณด๋ฉด,
07:35
we're sort of just like bags of fluids and some weird tissues
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ์•ก์ฒด์™€ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์กฐ์ง๋“ค์„ ์–‡์€ ํ”ผ๋ถ€๋กœ ๊ฐ์‹ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
07:40
surrounded by a thin layer of skin.
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๊ป๋ฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•ด์š”.
07:44
And to a certain extent,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”์€, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— ๋ช‡๋ฒˆ์”ฉ
07:46
multiple times a day, whether consciously or subconsciously,
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์˜์‹์ ์ด๋“  ์ž ์žฌ์ ์ด๋“ 
07:50
I need to remind myself not to fart publicly.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์•ž์—์„œ ๋ฐฉ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๋€Œ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ์•ผ ๋  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
07:54
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:55
You know, we're desperately trying to avoid being gross all the time,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•„์‚ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
07:59
so I think many of us take this kind of voyeuristic delight
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šธ ๋•Œ
08:02
in learning about gross things.
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์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:04
This is certainly true of kids;
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:06
the number of middle school teachers who show my videos
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๊ณผํ•™์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์ œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค€
08:09
in their science classes
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๋งŽ์€ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ค‘ํ•™๊ต์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด
08:10
is a testament to that.
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๊ทธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ์š”.
08:11
But I think it's totally true of adults, too.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
You know, I think we all love hearing about gross stories,
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๋‹ค๋“ค ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ,
08:17
because it's a socially acceptable way to explore the gross side of ourselves.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฉด์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌํšŒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
08:24
But there's this other reason
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
that I think talking about gross stuff is so important.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ์ฃ .
08:28
A while back, I made a video on tonsil stones -- sorry, everyone --
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์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „์—, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŽธ๋„๊ฒฐ์„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
08:33
which are these balls of mucus and bacteria and food
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ํŽธ๋„๊ฒฐ์„์€ ํŽธ๋„์„ ์— ๊ฑธ๋ ค ๋ญ‰์ณ์ง„ ์ ์•ก, ๋ฐ•ํ…Œ๋ฆฌ์•„, ์Œ์‹ ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ์ด๊ณ ,
08:38
that get lodged in your tonsils and they smell really terrible,
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๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์žฅ๋‚œ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
08:41
sometimes you cough them up and it's like -- it's awful.
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๊ฐ€๋” ๊ธฐ์นจ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋”์ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
08:46
And many, many people have experienced this.
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๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•ด์š”.
08:48
But many of the people who have experienced this
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ๊ณณ ์ด ์—†์–ด์š”.
08:52
haven't really had a forum to talk about it.
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08:54
And today, this video that I made is my most popular video.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜„์žฌ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ธ๊ธฐ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์ƒ์ด์—์š”
08:58
It has millions of views.
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๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ดค์–ด์š”.
09:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
09:03
And the comment section for that video became sort of like a self-help section,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ณณ์€ ๋„์›€์˜ ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:08
where people could talk about their tonsil stone experiences
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ํŽธ๋„๊ฒฐ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
09:11
and, like, tips and tricks for getting rid of them.
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์—†์• ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ค˜์š”.
09:13
And I think it became this great way for people to talk about something
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ณต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„
09:17
that they'd never felt comfortable taking about publicly.
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์„œ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:20
And that is wonderful when it's about something as goofy as tonsil stones,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŽธ๋„๊ฒฐ์„๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ํŠน์ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉด ์•„์ฃผ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์ฃ .
09:26
but it's a little sad when a video can have an effect like that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์›”๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์•„์ฃผ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์˜ ์˜์ƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:29
when it's about something as common as periods.
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์ข€ ์‹ค๋ง์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:34
Last February, I released a video on menstruation,
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์ง€๋‚œ 2์›”, ์›”๊ฒฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ 
09:37
and to this day, I am still getting messages
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์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
09:40
from people around the globe who are asking me about their periods.
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์›”๊ฒฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:46
There are a lot of young people -- and some not-so-young people -- out there,
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๋งŽ์€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋˜๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„
09:51
who are worried that what's happening to their bodies
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์ด ์ •์ƒ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:54
is somehow not normal.
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09:56
And, of course, I always tell them that I am not a medical professional,
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ํ•™ ์ „๋ฌธ์˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
09:59
and that, if possible, they should talk to a doctor.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜์‚ฌ์˜ ์ง„์ฐฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งํ•ด์š”.
10:02
But the truth of the matter is that everyone should feel comfortable
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
10:05
talking to a doctor about their own bodies.
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
10:07
And that's why I think it's really important for us
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ธฐํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
10:10
to start this dialogue about gross stuff from a pretty early age,
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
so we can let our kids know
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด
10:15
that it's alright to have agency over your own body
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ๊ณผ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋„ ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ 
10:18
and over your own health.
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์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
10:20
There's another reason that talking to your doctor
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์˜์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ๊ธฐํ”ผ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
10:22
about your health and gross stuff
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ
10:24
is really, really important.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:25
Doctors and the scientific community can only address issues
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์˜์‚ฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณผํ•™๊ณ„์—ด์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ๋งŒ
10:29
when they know there's something to address.
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:32
So one of the really interesting things I learned
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์›”๊ฒฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
10:35
while making the video on periods,
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10:36
is that I was talking to this one scientist who told me
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ํ•œ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
10:39
there's actually still a lot we don't know about periods.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ง ์›”๊ฒฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:44
There's a lot of basic research that still hasn't been done.
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์•„์ง๋„ ๋๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
10:47
In part, that's just because there weren't a lot of scientists in the field
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๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์˜ ์ž…์ง€๊ฐ€
10:52
who were women, to ask questions about it.
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
And it's also not a topic that women talk about publicly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์ œ ์ž์ฒด๋„ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ .
10:58
So there's this gap in what we know,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†์–ด์„œ
11:01
just because no one was there to ask a question.
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์•„๋Š” ์ •๋ณด์˜ ์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:04
There's one final reason that I think talking about gross stuff is so important,
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๋˜ํ•œ ๋”๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
11:09
and that's because you just never know what you're going to find
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์—ญ๊ฒน๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํŒŒ๊ณ  ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ
11:12
when you peel back all those layers of disgustingness.
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:17
So, take the California brown sea hare.
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์ด ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„ ๊ฐˆ์ƒ‰ ๊ตฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
11:21
This is a sea slug that squirts this lovely, bright purple ink
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋จน์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ๋ฌผ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ๋ฐ์€ ๋ณด๋ผ์ƒ‰ ์ž‰ํฌ๋ฅผ
11:25
at any creature that tries to eat it.
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๋ฟœ์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ๋ฏผ๋‹ฌํŒฝ์ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:27
But it also happens to be one of the kinkiest creatures
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ํŠน์ดํ•œ ์ƒ๋ฌผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:31
in the animal kingdom.
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11:33
So these guys are hermaphrodites,
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์›…๋™์ฒด์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
11:35
which means they have both male and female genitalia.
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ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•”, ์ˆ˜ ์ƒ์‹๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”,
11:38
And when it's time to mate,
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์ง์ง“๊ธฐ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ฉด,
11:39
up to 20 individuals will all get together in this kind of, like, conga line
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์ตœ๋Œ€ 20๊ฐœ์˜ ๊ตฐ์†Œ๋“ค์ด ์ฝฉ๊ฐ€์ถค์„ ์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ชจ์—ฌ์„œ
11:45
and they'll all mate together.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ต๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:47
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
11:50
A single sea hare will inseminate the partner in front of it
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ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ตฐ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฐ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ •์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ 
11:54
and receive sperm from the one behind,
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๋’ค์˜ ๊ตฐ์†Œ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ •์ž๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:56
which is sort of like an awesome time-saver,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ ˆ์•ฝํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋”ฑ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:59
when you think about it.
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12:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
12:04
But if scientists had only seen this and they were like,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์ด ์ด ๋ชจ์Šต๋งŒ ๋ณด๊ณ 
12:07
"OK, we're just not going to touch that with a stick,"
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"์ด๊ฑฐ๋Š” ์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์ž" ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
12:10
they would have missed the bigger thing about sea hares
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๊ตฐ์†Œ์˜ ํŠน์ง• ์ค‘ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ
12:13
that makes them really remarkable.
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์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
12:15
It turns out that these sea hares have a small number of very large neurons,
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๊ตฐ์†Œ๋“ค์€ ์ ์€ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์•„์ฃผ ๊ธด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ธํฌ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
12:21
which makes them excellent to use in neuroscience research.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ๊ณผํ•™ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ์— ์•„์ฃผ ์œ ์šฉํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐํ˜€์กŒ์–ด์š”.
12:26
And, in fact, the scientist Eric Kandel used them in his research
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณผํ•™์ž ์—๋ฆญ ์ผ„๋ธ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด์„œ
12:30
to understand how memories are stored.
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๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ €์žฅ๋˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
12:34
And you know what?
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์•„์„ธ์š”?
12:35
He won a Nobel Prize for his work.
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์ด ์ผ๋กœ ์—๋ฆญ ์ผ„๋ธ์€ ๋…ธ๋ฒจ์ƒ์„ ์ˆ˜์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
12:38
So go out there and pick up beetles and play in dirt and ask questions.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๋”ฑ์ •๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋„ ์ค๊ณ , ํ™์žฅ๋‚œ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ป ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
12:44
And own your fascination with gross stuff and don't be ashamed of it,
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๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„์งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
12:48
because you never know what you're going to find.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ• ์ง€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
12:50
And as I say at the end of all my videos,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์˜์ƒ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์— ๋งํ•˜๋“ฏ์ด,
12:53
"Ew."
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"์šฐ์›ฉ"
12:55
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:56
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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