What's it like to be a robot? | Leila Takayama

Prevoditelj: Ivana Varga Recezent: Sanda L

You only get one chance to make a first impression,

Imate samo jednu priliku napraviti prvi dojam,

and that's true if you're a robot as well as if you're a person.

a to je istina ako ste robot i ako ste osoba.

The first time that I met one of these robots

Prvi put kad sam upoznala jednog od ovih robota

was at a place called Willow Garage in 2008.

bilo je u mjestu nazvanom Willow Garage u 2008.

When I went to visit there, my host walked me into the building

Kad sam bila u posjetu tamo, domaćin me uveo u zgradu

and we met this little guy.

i upoznali smo onog malenog.

He was rolling into the hallway,

Dokotrljao se hodnikom,

came up to me, sat there,

došao do mene, sjeo,

stared blankly past me,

buljio u prazno iza mene,

did nothing for a while,

mirovao neko vrijeme,

rapidly spun his head around 180 degrees

ubrzano okrenuo glavu za 180 stupnjeva

and then ran away.

i onda pobjegao.

And that was not a great first impression.

To nije bio dobar prvi dojam.

The thing that I learned about robots that day

Ono što sam naučila od robota tog dana

is that they kind of do their own thing,

je da se oni ponašaju nekako na svoju ruku

and they're not totally aware of us.

i da nas nisu sasvim svjesni.

And I think as we're experimenting with these possible robot futures,

Smatram da eksperimentiranjem s ovim mogućim budućnostima robota,

we actually end up learning a lot more about ourselves

zapravo učimo puno više o sebi,

as opposed to just these machines.

za razliku od ovih strojeva.

And what I learned that day

Ono što sam naučila tog dana

was that I had pretty high expectations for this little dude.

je da sam imala dosta visoka očekivanja od ovog mališana.

He was not only supposed to be able to navigate the physical world,

On je trebao znati navigirati ne samo fizičkim svijetom,

but also be able to navigate my social world --

već i mojim društvenim svijetom.

he's in my space; it's a personal robot.

On je u mom prostoru, to je osobni robot.

wWhy didn't it understand me?

Zašto me nije razumio?

My host explained to me,

Moj domaćin mi je objasnio:

"Well, the robot is trying to get from point A to point B,

"Pa, robot želi doći od točke A do točke B,

and you were an obstacle in his way,

a ti si mu bila prepreka na putu

so he had to replan his path,

pa je morao ponovno isplanirati svoj put,

figure out where to go,

shvatiti kuda ići

and then get there some other way,"

i onda stići tamo na neki drugi način",

which was actually not a very efficient thing to do.

što, zapravo, nije vrlo učinkovito.

If that robot had figured out that I was a person, not a chair,

Da je taj robot shvatio da ja nisam stolica nego osoba,

and that I was willing to get out of its way

da sam mu se mogla maknuti s puta

if it was trying to get somewhere,

ako je pokušavao stići negdje,

then it actually would have been more efficient

onda bi bio učinkovitiji

at getting its job done

u izvršavanju svoje zadaće,

if it had bothered to notice that I was a human

da se potrudio primijetiti da sam čovjek

and that I have different affordances than things like chairs and walls do.

i da imam drukčiju pristupačnost od stvari poput stolica i zidova.

You know, we tend to think of these robots as being from outer space

Znate, volimo misliti o ovim robotima kao o nečemu iz svemira,

and from the future and from science fiction,

iz budućnosti i znanstvene fantastike,

and while that could be true,

no, dok to možda i jest istina,

I'd actually like to argue that robots are here today,

zapravo tvrdim da su roboti ovdje danas

and they live and work amongst us right now.

te da oni žive i rade među nama već sada.

These are two robots that live in my home.

Ova dva robota žive u mom domu.

They vacuum the floors and they cut the grass

Usisavaju podove i kose travu

every single day,

svakog dana,

which is more than I would do if I actually had time to do these tasks,

što je više nego što bih sama čistila da zapravo imam vremena za te zadatke,

and they probably do it better than I would, too.

a oni to vjerojatno rade bolje od mene.

This one actually takes care of my kitty.

Ovaj se zapravo brine za mog mačka.

Every single time he uses the box, it cleans it,

Svaki put kad on obavi nuždu u pijesak, robot to počisti,

which is not something I'm willing to do,

jer to nije nešto što sam voljna raditi

and it actually makes his life better as well as mine.

pa mu čini život lakšim kao i moj.

And while we call these robot products --

Iako zovemo te robote proizvodima;

it's a "robot vacuum cleaner, it's a robot lawnmower,

"to je robotski usisavač", "to je robotska kosilica",

it's a robot littler box,"

"to je robotska kutija s pijeskom",

I think there's actually a bunch of other robots hiding in plain sight

smatram da, zapravo, ima hrpa drugih robota skrivenih na otvorenom

that have just become so darn useful

koji su postali toliko vražje korisni

and so darn mundane

i toliko vražje svakodnevni,

that we call them things like, "dishwasher," right?

da ih zovemo stvarima poput "perilice posuđa", zar ne?

They get new names.

Oni dobiju nova imena.

They don't get called robot anymore

Njih više ne zovemo robotima

because they actually serve a purpose in our lives.

jer oni, zapravo, imaju svrhu u našim životima.

Similarly, a thermostat, right?

Slično kao termostat, zar ne?

I know my robotics friends out there

Znam da su moji prijatelji robotičari

are probably cringing at me calling this a robot,

vjerojatno sada ustuknuli jer njega zovem robotom,

but it has a goal.

ali on ima cilj.

Its goal is to make my house 66 degrees Fahrenheit,

Njegov cilj je održavati moju kuću toplom na 18°C

and it senses the world.

i on osjeća svijet.

It knows it's a little bit cold,

Zna da je zahladilo,

it makes a plan and then it acts on the physical world.

napravi plan i onda djeluje u fizičkom svijetu.

It's robotics.

To je robotika.

Even if it might not look like Rosie the Robot,

Iako ne izgleda kao robot Rosie iz crtića,

it's doing something that's really useful in my life

on radi nešto uistinu korisno u mom životu

so I don't have to take care

da se ja ne moram brinuti

of turning the temperature up and down myself.

o pojačavanju ili smanjivanju temperature.

And I think these systems live and work amongst us now,

Smatram da ovi sustavi žive i rade među nama sada

and not only are these systems living amongst us

i ne samo da žive među nama,

but you are probably a robot operator, too.

nego vi njima, također, vjerojatno i upravljate.

When you drive your car,

Kad vozite svoj auto,

it feels like you are operating machinery.

imate osjećaj kao da upravljate mašinerijom.

You are also going from point A to point B,

Vozite od točke A do točke B,

but your car probably has power steering,

ali vaš auto vjerojatno ima servo upravljanje,

it probably has automatic braking systems,

vjerojatno ima automatsku kočnicu,

it might have an automatic transmission and maybe even adaptive cruise control.

možda ima automatski mjenjač i možda ima prilagodljivu kontrolu upravljanja.

And while it might not be a fully autonomous car,

I dok možda nije potpuno autonoman auto,

it has bits of autonomy,

ima djeliće autonomije

and they're so useful

koji su toliko korisni

and they make us drive safer,

da vozimo sigurnije zbog njih,

and we just sort of feel like they're invisible-in-use, right?

a jednostavno osjećamo kao da su nevidljivi, zar ne?

So when you're driving your car,

Tako da kad vozite

you should just feel like you're going from one place to another.

trebali biste se osjećati kao da idete od jednog mjesta prema drugom.

It doesn't feel like it's this big thing that you have to deal with and operate

Ne čini se kao da je to neka velika stvar s kojom se morate nositi i upravljati

and use these controls

i koristiti ove kontrole,

because we spent so long learning how to drive

jer smo toliko vremena proveli učeći kako voziti,

that they've become extensions of ourselves.

da su oni postali produžeci nas samih.

When you park that car in that tight little garage space,

Kad parkirate taj auto u ono usko mjesto u garaži,

you know where your corners are.

znate gdje su vam uglovi.

And when you drive a rental car that maybe you haven't driven before,

Ali, onda kad vozite iznajmljeni auto koji možda nikad niste vozili,

potrebno je neko vrijeme da se naviknete na svoje robotsko tijelo.

it takes some time to get used to your new robot body.

And this is also true for people who operate other types of robots,

To je istina i za ljude koju upravljaju drugim vrstama robota,

so I'd like to share with you a few stories about that.

zato bih htjela podijeliti s vama par priča o tome.

Dealing with the problem of remote collaboration.

O nošenju s problemom udaljene suradnje.

So, at Willow Garage I had a coworker named Dallas,

Dakle, u Willow Garageu imala sam kolegu zvanog Dallas

and Dallas looked like this.

i Dallas je izgledao ovako.

He worked from his home in Indiana in our company in California.

Radio je od kuće u Indiani u našoj tvrtci u Kaliforniji.

He was a voice in a box on the table in most of our meetings,

On je bio glas u kutiji na stolu na većini naših sastanaka,

which was kind of OK except that, you know,

što je bilo u redu, osim što, znate,

ako bismo imali neku žestoku raspravu i nije nam se sviđalo što bi govorio,

if we had a really heated debate and we didn't like what he was saying,

we might just hang up on him.

samo bismo prekinuli poziv.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Then we might have a meeting after that meeting

Onda bismo mogli održati sastanak nakon tog sastanka

and actually make the decisions in the hallway afterwards

i, zapravo, donijeti odluke u hodniku,

when he wasn't there anymore.

kada njega više nije bilo.

So that wasn't so great for him.

Tako da to nije bilo baš super za njega.

And as a robotics company at Willow,

A kao tvrtka robotike u Willowu,

we had some extra robot body parts laying around,

imali smo nekoliko dodatnih dijelova robota uokolo,

so Dallas and his buddy Curt put together this thing,

tako da su Dallas i njegov prijatelj Curt sastavili ovo,

which looks kind of like Skype on a stick on wheels,

što izgleda poput Skypea na štapu s kotačima,

which seems like a techy, silly toy,

što se čini kao smiješna, mehanička igračka,

but really it's probably one of the most powerful tools

ali stvarno je vjerojatno jedan od najmoćnijih alata

that I've seen ever made for remote collaboration.

koje sam ikad vidjela, stvorenih za udaljenu suradnju.

So now, if I didn't answer Dallas' email question,

Pa tako, ako ne bih odgovorila na Dallasovo pitanje u e-mailu,

he could literally roll into my office,

on bi se mogao doslovno dokotrljati u moj ured,

block my doorway and ask me the question again --

blokirati mi izlazak i ponovno mi postaviti pitanje...

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

until I answered it.

...dok mu ne bih odgovorila.

And I'm not going to turn him off, right? That's kind of rude.

A ja ga neću ugasiti, zar ne? To se čini pomalo nepristojnim.

Not only was it good for these one-on-one communications,

Ne samo da je bilo dobro za ove razgovore jedan na jedan,

but also for just showing up at the company all-hands meeting.

već i za grupne sastanke u tvrtci.

Getting your butt in that chair

Dovući se na tu stolicu

and showing people that you're present and committed to your project

i pokazati ljudima da ste prisutni i odani svom projektu

is a big deal

je velika stvar

and can help remote collaboration a ton.

i može uvelike pomoći udaljenoj suradnji.

We saw this over the period of months and then years,

Vidjeli smo to u razdoblju od par mjeseci, zatim i godina,

not only at our company but at others, too.

ne samo u našoj tvrtci već i u drugima.

The best thing that can happen with these systems

Najbolja stvar koja se može dogoditi s ovim sustavima

is that it starts to feel like you're just there.

je to da se počnete osjećati kao da ste tamo.

It's just you, it's just your body,

Vi ste tamo, vaše tijelo je tamo,

and so people actually start to give these things personal space.

tako da ljudi stvarno počinju davati ovim stvarima osobni prostor.

So when you're having a stand-up meeting,

Tako da kad imate stojeći sastanak,

ljudi će stajati uokolo,

people will stand around the space

just as they would if you were there in person.

baš kao što bi stajali da ste tamo uživo.

To je odlično dok nema prekida, a onda više nije.

That's great until there's breakdowns and it's not.

People, when they first see these robots,

Ljudi, kada prvi put vide ove robote,

are like, "Wow, where's the components? There must be a camera over there,"

počnu: "Vau, gdje su komponente? Mora biti nekakva kamera ovdje negdje"

and they start poking your face.

i onda vam bockaju lice.

"Pretiho govoriš, pojačat ću ti glasnoću",

"You're talking too softly, I'm going to turn up your volume,"

što je isto kao da imate kolegu koji vam priđe i kaže:

which is like having a coworker walk up to you and say,

"Pretiho govoriš, pojačat ću ti lice".

"You're speaking too softly, I'm going to turn up your face."

To je čudno i nije u redu,

That's awkward and not OK,

and so we end up having to build these new social norms

tako da na kraju moramo razviti nove društvene norme

around using these systems.

kad koristimo ove sustave.

Similarly, as you start feeling like it's your body,

Slično je kada se počnete privikavati da je to vaše tijelo,

you start noticing things like, "Oh, my robot is kind of short."

počnete primjećivati stvari poput: "Ah, moj robot je nekako kratak".

Dallas would say things to me -- he was six-foot tall --

Dallas bi mi znao govoriti -- visok je 1,80 m --

and we would take him via robot to cocktail parties and things like that,

i vodili bismo ga putem robota na koktel partije i slično,

as you do,

normalno,

and the robot was about five-foot-tall, which is close to my height.

a robot je bio visok otprilike 1,50 m, što je bliže mojoj visini.

And he would tell me,

I on bi mi govorio:

"You know, people are not really looking at me.

"Znaš, ljudi zapravo ni ne gledaju na mene.

I feel like I'm just looking at this sea of shoulders,

Osjećam se kao da gledam u ovo more ramena,

and it's just -- we need a taller robot."

a to je... treba nam viši robot".

And I told him,

Ja bih mu rekla:

"Um, no.

"Hm, ne.

You get to walk in my shoes for today.

Vidjet ćeš danas kako je meni inače.

You get to see what it's like to be on the shorter end of the spectrum."

Vidjet ćeš kako je to biti nizak".

And he actually ended up building a lot of empathy for that experience,

On je na kraju razvio veliku empatiju tijekom tog iskustva,

which was kind of great.

što je bilo super.

So when he'd come visit in person,

Tako da kad bi došao uživo u posjet,

he no longer stood over me as he was talking to me,

više ne bi stajao nada mnom kad bi mi govorio,

he would sit down and talk to me eye to eye,

sjeo bi i govorio sa mnom u razini očiju,

which was kind of a beautiful thing.

što je bilo predivno.

So we actually decided to look at this in the laboratory

Tako da smo, zapravo, odlučili pogledati to u laboratoriju

and see what others kinds of differences things like robot height would make.

i vidjeti kakve se druge vrste stvari, poput visine robota, mogu napraviti.

And so half of the people in our study used a shorter robot,

Pa je pola ljudi u našem istraživanju koristilo kraćeg robota,

half of the people in our study used a taller robot

a druga polovica višeg robota.

and we actually found that the exact same person

Otkrili smo da će ista osoba

who has the exact same body and says the exact same things as someone,

koja ima isto tijelo i govori iste stvari kao netko,

is more persuasive and perceived as being more credible

biti uvjerljivija i doimati se vjerodostojnijom

if they're in a taller robot form.

ako je u višem robotskom obliku.

It makes no rational sense,

Racionalno to nema smisla,

but that's why we study psychology.

ali zato proučavamo psihologiju.

And really, you know, the way that Cliff Nass would put this

I, znate, kao što bi to Cliff Nass rekao,

is that we're having to deal with these new technologies

suočavamo se s ovim novim tehnologijama,

despite the fact that we have very old brains.

unatoč činjenici da imamo vrlo stare mozgove.

Human psychology is not changing at the same speed that tech is

Ljudska psihologija se ne mijenja istom brzinom kao tehnologija,

and so we're always playing catch-up,

tako da je stalno nastojimo sustići,

trying to make sense of this world

pokušavajući pronaći smisao svijeta

where these autonomous things are running around.

u kojem smo okruženi ovim autonomnim stvarima.

Usually, things that talk are people, not machines, right?

Uobičajeno, ljudi su ti koji govore, ne strojevi, zar ne?

And so we breathe a lot of meaning into things like just height of a machine,

Stoga dodajemo mnogo značenja stvarima poput visine stroja,

not a person,

ne osobe,

and attribute that to the person using the system.

i pripisujemo to osobi koja koristi sustav.

You know, this, I think, is really important

Znate, smatram da je ovo uistinu važno

when you're thinking about robotics.

kad razmišljate o robotici.

It's not so much about reinventing humans,

Ne radi se tu toliko o rekonstrukciji čovjeka,

it's more about figuring out how we extend ourselves, right?

nego više o tome kako proširiti sebe, zar ne?

And we end up using things in ways that are sort of surprising.

Na kraju koristimo stvari na načine koji su iznenađujući.

So these guys can't play pool because the robots don't have arms,

Dakle, ovi momci ne mogu igrati biljar jer roboti nemaju ruke,

but they can heckle the guys who are playing pool

ali mogu provocirati momke koji igraju biljar

and that can be an important thing for team bonding,

i to može biti važna stvar kod timskog zbližavanja,

which is kind of neat.

što je zgodno.

People who get really good at operating these systems

Ljudi koji postanu zbilja dobri u upravljanju tim sustavima,

will even do things like make up new games,

smislit će stvari poput novih igara,

like robot soccer in the middle of the night,

kao, recimo, robotski nogomet usred noći,

pushing the trash cans around.

gurajući uokolo kante za smeće.

But not everyone's good.

No, nisu svi dobri u tome.

A lot of people have trouble operating these systems.

Dosta ljudi ima problema s upravljanjem tim sustavima.

This is actually a guy who logged into the robot

Ovo je, zapravo, lik koji se ulogirao u robota

and his eyeball was turned 90 degrees to the left.

i oko mu je bilo okrenuto za 90° ulijevo.

He didn't know that,

On to nije znao,

so he ended up just bashing around the office,

pa se na kraju sudarao sa svime u uredu,

zalijetao ljudima u stolove, postalo mu je neugodno,

running into people's desks, getting super embarrassed,

laughing about it -- his volume was way too high.

smijao se tome - glasnoća mu je bila previsoka.

And this guy here in the image is telling me,

A ovaj lik ovdje na slici mi govori:

"We need a robot mute button."

"Treba nam gumb za utišavanje robota".

And by that what he really meant was we don't want it to be so disruptive.

Time je mislio reći da ne želimo da bude toliko ometajući.

So as a robotics company,

Tako da smo kao tvrtka robotike

we added some obstacle avoidance to the system.

dodali izbjegavanje prepreka u sustav.

Dobio je mali laserski daljinometar koji bi mogao vidjeti prepreke,

It got a little laser range finder that could see the obstacles,

and if I as a robot operator try to say, run into a chair,

tako da kad bih ja, kao upravitelj robota, rekla da se zabije u stolicu,

it wouldn't let me, it would just plan a path around,

ne bi mi dozvolio, nego bi isplanirao put koji vodi okolo,

which seems like a good idea.

što se čini kao bolja ideja.

People did hit fewer obstacles using that system, obviously,

Ljudi su se, naravno, manje sudarali koristeći taj sustav,

but actually, for some of the people,

no, zapravo, za neke ljude,

it took them a lot longer to get through our obstacle course,

trebalo je puno više vremena da prođu cijeli poligon s preprekama

and we wanted to know why.

pa smo htjeli znati zašto.

It turns out that there's this important human dimension --

Ispalo je da tu postoji važna ljudska dimenzija;

a personality dimension called locus of control,

dimenzija osobnosti zvana lokus kontrole,

and people who have a strong internal locus of control,

stoga ljudi koji imaju snažan unutarnji lokus kontrole,

they need to be the masters of their own destiny --

moraju biti upravitelji svojih sudbina

really don't like giving up control to an autonomous system --

i stvarno ne žele predati kontrolu autonomnom sustavu,

so much so that they will fight the autonomy;

toliko da će se boriti s autonomijom.

"If I want to hit that chair, I'm going to hit that chair."

"Ako se ja želim sudariti s tom stolicom, ja ću se sudariti".

And so they would actually suffer from having that autonomous assistance,

Tako da bi oni zapravo patili kad bi imali tu autonomnu potporu.

which is an important thing for us to know

Što je važno za nas da znamo,

as we're building increasingly autonomous, say, cars, right?

budući da gradimo izrazito automomne aute, recimo. Zar ne?

How are different people going to grapple with that loss of control?

Kako će se različiti ljudi nositi s tim gubitkom kontrole?

It's going to be different depending on human dimensions.

To će biti različito ovisno o ljudskim dimenzijama.

We can't treat humans as if we're just one monolithic thing.

Ne možemo tretirati ljude kao da smo neka monolitna stvar.

We vary by personality, by culture,

Razlikujemo se po osobnosti, kulturi,

we even vary by emotional state moment to moment,

čak i po emocionalnom stanju od trenutka do trenutka,

a biti u mogućnosti osmisliti ove sustave,

and being able to design these systems,

these human-robot interaction systems,

ove sustave komunikacije između čovjeka i robota,

we need to take into account the human dimensions,

moramo uzeti u obzir ljudske dimenzije,

not just the technological ones.

ne samo tehnološke.

Along with a sense of control also comes a sense of responsibility.

S osjećajem kontrole dolazi i osjećaj odgovornosti.

And if you were a robot operator using one of these systems,

Kad biste bili upravitelj robota koji koristi neke od ovih sustava,

this is what the interface would look like.

ovako bi sučelje izgledalo.

It looks a little bit like a video game,

Nalikuje malo na videoigru,

which can be good because that's very familiar to people,

što može biti pozitivno jer je to poznato ljudima,

but it can also be bad

no, može biti i loše

because it makes people feel like it's a video game.

jer se onda ljudi osjećaju kao da su u videoigri.

We had a bunch of kids over at Stanford play with the system

Imali smo hrpu djece na Stanfordu koja su se igrala time

and drive the robot around our office in Menlo Park,

i vozila robota uokolo u našem uredu u Menlo Parku,

and the kids started saying things like,

i djeca bi govorila stvari poput:

"10 points if you hit that guy over there. 20 points for that one."

"10 bodova ako pogodiš onog lika tamo. 20 za onog ondje".

I onda bi ih lovili po hodniku.

And they would chase them down the hallway.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I told them, "Um, those are real people.

Rekla bih im: "To su prave osobe.

They're actually going to bleed and feel pain if you hit them."

Oni će zaista krvariti i osjećati bol ako ih pogodite".

And they'd be like, "OK, got it."

I oni bi na to: "U redu, shvaćamo".

But five minutes later, they would be like,

Ali pet minuta poslije, oni bi opet:

"20 bodova za onog lika tamo, taj baš izgleda kao da ga se treba pogoditi".

"20 points for that guy over there, he just looks like he needs to get hit."

It's a little bit like "Ender's Game," right?

Podsjeća malo na "Enderovu igru", zar ne?

Postoji stvarni svijet na toj drugoj strani

There is a real world on that other side

and I think it's our responsibility as people designing these interfaces

i smatram da je naša odgovornost kao ljudi koji osmišljavaju ta sučelja

to help people remember

da pomognu ljudima zapamtiti

that there's real consequences to their actions

da postoje stvarne posljedice njihovih djelovanja

and to feel a sense of responsibility

i da osjećaju odgovornost

when they're operating these increasingly autonomous things.

kad upravljaju ovim sve više autonomnim stvarima.

These are kind of a great example

Ovi su, recimo, sjajan primjer

of experimenting with one possible robotic future,

eksperimentiranja s jednom od mogućih budućnosti robota,

and I think it's pretty cool that we can extend ourselves

i smatram da je stvarno kul što možemo produžiti svoje djelovanje

and learn about the ways that we extend ourselves

i učiti o načinima toga

into these machines

u ovim strojevima,

while at the same time being able to express our humanity

dok u isto vrijeme imamo mogućnost izraziti svoju čovječnost

and our personality.

i svoju osobnost.

We also build empathy for others

Također gradimo empatiju za druge

in terms of being shorter, taller, faster, slower,

tako što postajemo niži, viši, brži, sporiji,

and maybe even armless,

možda čak i bezruki,

which is kind of neat.

što je nekako zgodno.

We also build empathy for the robots themselves.

Također gradimo empatiju za same robote.

This is one of my favorite robots.

Ovo je jedan od mojih omiljenih robota.

It's called the Tweenbot.

Zove se Tweenbot.

And this guy has a little flag that says,

Ima zastavicu na kojoj piše:

"I'm trying to get to this intersection in Manhattan,"

"Pokušavam doći do ovog raskrižja na Manhattanu".

and it's cute and rolls forward, that's it.

Sladak je i kotrlja se unaprijed, to je sve.

It doesn't know how to build a map, it doesn't know how to see the world,

Ne zna kako mapirati, ne zna kako vidjeti svijet,

it just asks for help.

samo traži upute.

The nice thing about people

Lijepa stvar kod ljudi je

is that it can actually depend upon the kindness of strangers.

da se, zapravo, može oslanjati na ljubaznost stranaca.

It did make it across the park to the other side of Manhattan --

On je uspio stići preko parka na drugu stranu Manhattana,

which is pretty great --

što je odlično,

just because people would pick it up and point it in the right direction.

samo zato što bi ga ljudi podigli i usmjerili u pravom smjeru.

(Smijeh)

(Laughter)

And that's great, right?

To je super, zar ne?

We're trying to build this human-robot world

Pokušavamo izgraditi svijet ljudi i robota,

in which we can coexist and collaborate with one another,

u kojem možemo supostojati i surađivati jedni s drugima

and we don't need to be fully autonomous and just do things on our own.

pa ne moramo biti posve autonomni i samo raditi na svoj način.

We actually do things together.

Zapravo možemo raditi stvari zajedno.

And to make that happen,

Da bismo to postigli,

we actually need help from people like the artists and the designers,

stvarno trebamo pomoć ljudi poput umjetnika i dizajnera,

the policy makers, the legal scholars,

kreatora politike, pravnika,

psychologists, sociologists, anthropologists --

psihologa, sociologa, antropologa,

we need more perspectives in the room

treba nam više perspektiva u prostoriji,

if we're going to do the thing that Stu Card says we should do,

ako ćemo učiniti ono što nam je Stu Card rekao da bismo trebali,

which is invent the future that we actually want to live in.

a to je stvaranje budućnosti u kojoj uistinu želimo živjeti.

And I think we can continue to experiment

I smatram da možemo nastaviti eksperimentirati

with these different robotic futures together,

s ovim različitim budućnostima robota zajedno

and in doing so, we will end up learning a lot more about ourselves.

i na taj način naučiti puno više o sebi samima.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)