Dean Kamen: Rolling along, helping students and the third world

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As you pointed out, every time you come here, you learn something.
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This morning, the world's experts
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from I guess three or four different companies on building seats,
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I think concluded that ultimately, the solution is, people shouldn't sit down.
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I could have told them that.
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(Laughter)
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Yesterday, the automotive guys gave us some new insights.
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They pointed out that, I believe it was between 30 and 50 years from today,
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they will be steering cars by wire,
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without all that mechanical stuff.
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(Laughter)
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That's reassuring.
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(Applause)
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They then pointed out that there'd be, sort of, the other controls by wire,
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to get rid of all that mechanical stuff.
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That's pretty good, but why not get rid of the wires?
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Then you don't need anything to control the car, except thinking about it.
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I would love to talk about the technology,
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and sometime, in what's past the 15 minutes,
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I'll be happy to talk to all the techno-geeks around here
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about what's in here.
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But if I had one thing to say about this, before we get to first,
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it would be that from the time we started building this,
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the big idea wasn't the technology.
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It really was a big idea in technology when we started applying it
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in the iBOT for the disabled community.
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The big idea here is, I think, a new piece of a solution
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to a fairly big problem in transportation.
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And maybe to put that in perspective: there's so much data on this,
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I'll be happy to give it to you in different forms.
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You never know what strikes the fancy of whom,
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but everybody is perfectly willing to believe the car changed the world.
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And Henry Ford, just about 100 years ago, started cranking out Model Ts.
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What I don't think most people think about
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is the context of how technology is applied.
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For instance, in that time, 91 percent of America
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lived either on farms or in small towns.
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So, the car --
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the horseless carriage that replaced the horse and carriage -- was a big deal;
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it went twice as fast as a horse and carriage.
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It was half as long.
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And it was an environmental improvement, because, for instance,
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in 1903 they outlawed horses and buggies in downtown Manhattan,
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because you can imagine what the roads look like
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when you have a million horses,
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and a million of them urinating and doing other things,
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and the typhoid and other problems created were almost unimaginable.
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So the car was the clean environmental alternative to a horse and buggy.
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It also was a way for people to get from their farm to a farm,
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or their farm to a town, or from a town to a city.
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It all made sense, with 91 percent of the people living there.
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By the 1950s, we started connecting all the towns together
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with what a lot of people claim is the eighth wonder of the world, the highway system.
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And it is certainly a wonder.
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And by the way, as I take shots at old technologies,
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I want to assure everybody, and particularly the automotive industry --
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who's been very supportive of us --
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that I don't think this in any way competes with airplanes, or cars.
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But think about where the world is today.
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50 percent of the global population now lives in cities.
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That's 3.2 billion people.
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We've solved all the transportation problems
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that have changed the world to get it to where we are today.
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500 years ago, sailing ships started getting reliable enough;
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we found a new continent.
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150 years ago, locomotives got efficient enough, steam power,
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that we turned the continent into a country.
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Over the last hundred years, we started building cars,
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and then over the 50 years we've connected every city to every other city
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in an extraordinarily efficient way,
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and we have a very high standard of living as a consequence of that.
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But during that entire process, more and more people have been born,
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and more and more people are moving to cities.
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China alone is going to move four to six hundred million people
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into cities in the next decade and a half.
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And so, nobody, I think, would argue that airplanes, in the last 50 years,
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have turned the continent and the country now into a neighborhood.
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And if you just look at how technology has been applied,
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we've solved all the long-range, high-speed, high-volume,
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large-weight problems of moving things around.
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Nobody would want to give them up.
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And I certainly wouldn't want to give up my airplane,
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or my helicopter, or my Humvee, or my Porsche.
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I love them all. I don't keep any of them in my living room.
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The fact is, the last mile is the problem,
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and half the world now lives in dense cities.
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And people spend, depending on who they are,
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between 90 and 95 percent of their energy getting around on foot.
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I think there's -- I don't know what data would impress you,
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but how about, 43 percent of the refined fuel produced in the world
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is consumed by cars in metropolitan areas in the United States.
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Three million people die every year in cities due to bad air,
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and almost all particulate pollution on this planet
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is produced by transportation devices, particularly sitting in cities.
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And again, I say that not to attack any industry,
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I think -- I really do -- I love my airplane,
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and cars on highways moving 60 miles an hour
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are extraordinarily efficient,
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both from an engineering point of view,
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an energy consumption point of view, and a utility point of view.
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And we all love our cars, and I do.
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The problem is, you get into the city and you want to go four blocks,
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it's neither fun nor efficient nor productive.
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It's not sustainable.
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If -- in China, in the year 1998, 417 million people used bicycles;
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1.7 million people used cars.
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If five percent of that population became, quote, middle class,
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and wanted to go the way we've gone in the last hundred years
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at the same time that 50 percent of their population are moving into cities
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of the size and density of Manhattan, every six weeks --
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it isn't sustainable environmentally;
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it isn't sustainable economically -- there just ain't enough oil --
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and it's not sustainable politically.
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I mean, what are we fighting over right now?
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We can make it complicated, but what's the world fighting over right now?
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So it seemed to me that somebody had to work on that last mile,
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and it was dumb luck. We were working on iBOTs,
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but once we made this, we instantly decided
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it could be a great alternative to jet skis. You don't need the water.
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Or snowmobiles. You don't need the snow.
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Or skiing. It's just fun, and people love to move around doing fun things.
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And every one of those industries, by the way --
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just golf carts alone is a multi-billion-dollar industry.
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But rather than go license this off, which is what we normally do,
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it seemed to me that if we put all our effort not into the technology,
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but into an understanding of a world that's solved all its other problems,
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but has somehow come to accept that cities -- which,
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right back from ancient Greece on, were meant to walk around,
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cities that were architected and built for people --
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now have a footprint that,
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while we've solved every other transportation problem --
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and it's like Moore's law.
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I mean, look at the time it took to cross a continent in a Conestoga wagon,
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then on a railroad, then an airplane.
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Every other form of transportation's been improved.
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In 5,000 years, we've gone backwards in getting around cities.
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They've gotten bigger; they're spread out.
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The most expensive real estate on this planet in every city --
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Wilshire Boulevard, or Fifth Avenue, or Tokyo, or Paris --
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the most expensive real estate is their downtowns.
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65 percent of the landmass of our cities are parked cars.
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The 20 largest cities in the world.
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So you wonder, what if cities could give to their pedestrians
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what we take for granted as we now go between cities?
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What if you could make them fun, attractive, clean,
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environmentally friendly?
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What if it would make it a little bit more palatable
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to have access via this, as that last link to mass transit,
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to get out to your cars so we can all live in the suburbs
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and use our cars the way we want,
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and then have our cities energized again?
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We thought it would be really neat to do that,
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and one of the problems we really were worried about
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is: how do we get legal on the sidewalk?
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Because technically I've got motors; I've got wheels -- I'm a motor vehicle.
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I don't look like a motor vehicle.
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I have the same footprint as a pedestrian;
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I have the same unique capability
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to deal with other pedestrians in a crowded space.
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I took this down to Ground Zero,
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and knocked my way through crowds for an hour.
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I'm a pedestrian. But the law typically lags technology by a generation or two,
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and if we get told we don't belong on the sidewalk, we have two choices.
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We're a recreational vehicle that doesn't really matter,
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and I don't spend my time doing that kind of stuff.
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Or maybe we should be out in the street
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in front of a Greyhound bus or a vehicle.
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We've been so concerned about that,
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we went to the Postmaster General of the United States,
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as the first person we ever showed on the outside,
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and said, "Put your people on it. Everybody trusts their postman.
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And they belong on the sidewalks, and they'll use it seriously."
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He agreed. We went to a number of police departments
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that want their police officers back in the neighborhood
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on the beat, carrying 70 pounds of stuff. They love it.
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And I can't believe a policeman is going to give themselves a ticket.
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(Laughter)
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So we've been working really, really hard,
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but we knew that the technology would not be as hard to develop
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as an attitude about what's important, and how to apply the technology.
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We went out and we found some visionary people
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with enough money to let us design and build these things,
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and in hopefully enough time to get them accepted.
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So, I'm happy, really, I am happy to talk about this technology as much as you want.
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And yes, it's really fun, and yes, you should all go out and try it.
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But if I could ask you to do one thing,
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it's not to think about it as a piece of technology,
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but just imagine that, although we all understand somehow
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that it's reasonable that we use our 4,000-pound machine,
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which can go 60 miles an hour,
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that can bring you everywhere you want to go,
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and somehow it's also what we used for the last mile,
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and it's broken, and it doesn't work.
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One of the more exciting things that occurred to us
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about why it might get accepted, happened out here in California.
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A few weeks ago, after we launched it,
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we were here with a news crew on Venice Beach, zipping up and back,
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and he's marveling at the technology,
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and meanwhile bicycles are zipping by,
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and skateboarders are zipping by,
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and a little old lady -- I mean, if you looked in the dictionary,
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a little old lady -- came by me --
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and now that I'm on this, I'm the height of a normal adult now --
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and she just stops, and the camera is there, and she looks up at me
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and says, "Can I try that?"
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And what was I -- you know, how are you going to say anything?
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And so I said, "Sure."
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So I get off, and she gets on, and with a little bit of the usual, ah,
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then she turns around, and she goes about 20 feet,
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and she turns back around, and she's all smiles.
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And she comes back to me and she stops, and she says,
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"Finally, they made something for us."
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And the camera is looking down at her.
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I'm thinking, "Wow, that was great --
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(Laughter)
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-- please lady, don't say another word."
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(Laughter)
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And the camera is down at her,
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and this guy has to put the microphone in her face,
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said, "What do you mean by that?"
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And I figured, "It's all over now,"
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and she looks up and she says, "Well,"
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she's still watching these guys go; she says, "I can't ride a bike," no,
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she says, "I can't use a skateboard, and I've never used roller blades,"
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she knew them by name;
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she says, "And it's been 50 years since I rode a bicycle."
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Then she looks up, she's looking up, and she says,
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"And I'm 81 years old, and I don't drive a car anymore.
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I still have to get to the store, and I can't carry a lot of things."
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And it suddenly occurred to me, that among my many fears,
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were not just that the bureaucracy and the regulators
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and the legislators might not get it --
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it was that, fundamentally, you believe there's pressure among the people
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not to invade the most precious little bit of space left,
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the sidewalks in these cities.
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When you look at the 36 inches of legal requirement for sidewalk,
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then the eight foot for the parked car, then the three lanes,
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and then the other eight feet -- it's --
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that little piece is all that's there.
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But she looks up and says this,
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and it occurs to me, well, kids aren't going to mind these things,
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and they don't vote, and business people and then young adults
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aren't going to mind these things -- they're pretty cool --
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so I guess subliminally I was worried
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that it's the older population that's going to worry.
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So, having seen this, and having worried about it for eight years,
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the first thing I do is pick up my phone and ask our marketing and regulatory guys,
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call AARP, get an appointment right away.
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We've got to show them this thing.
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And they took it to Washington; they showed them;
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and they're going to be involved now,
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watching how these things get absorbed in a number of cities,
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like Atlanta, where we're doing trials to see if it really can, in fact,
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help re-energize their downtown.
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(Applause)
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The bottom line is, whether you believe the United Nations,
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or any of the other think tanks --
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in the next 20 years, all human population growth on this planet
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will be in cities.
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In Asia alone, it will be over a billion people.
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They learned to start with cell phones.
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They didn't have to take the 100-year trip we took.
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They start at the top of the technology food chain.
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We've got to start building cities and human environments
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where a 150-pound person can go a couple of miles
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in a dense, rich, green-space environment,
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without being in a 4,000-pound machine to do it.
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Cars were not meant for parallel parking;
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they're wonderful machines to go between cities, but just think about it:
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we've solved all the long-range, high-speed problems.
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The Greeks went from the theater of Dionysus to the Parthenon in their sandals.
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You do it in your sneakers.
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Not much has changed.
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If this thing goes only three times as fast as walking -- three times --
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a 30-minute walk becomes 10 minutes.
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Your choice, when living in a city, if it's now 10 minutes --
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because at 30 minutes you want an alternative, whether it's a bus, a train --
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we've got to build an infrastructure -- a light rail --
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or you're going to keep parking those cars.
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But if you could put a pin in most cities,
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and imagine how far you could, if you had the time, walk in one half-hour, it's the city.
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If you could make it fun, and make it eight or 10 minutes,
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you can't find your car, un-park your car, move your car,
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re-park your car and go somewhere;
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you can't get to a cab or a subway.
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We could change the way people allocate their resources,
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the way this planet uses its energy,
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make it more fun.
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And we're hoping to some extent history will say we were right.
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That's Segway. This is a Stirling cycle engine;
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this had been confused by a lot of things we're doing.
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This little beast, right now, is producing a few hundred watts of electricity.
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Yes, it could be attached to this,
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and yes, on a kilogram of propane,
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you could drive from New York to Boston if you so choose.
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Perhaps more interesting about this little engine is it'll burn any fuel,
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because some of you might be skeptical
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about the capability of this to have an impact,
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where most of the world you can't simply plug into your 120-volt outlet.
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We've been working on this,
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actually, as an alternative energy source,
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starting way back with Johnson & Johnson, to run an iBOT,
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because the best batteries you could get --
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10 watt-hours per kilogram in lead,
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20 watt-hours per kilogram nickel-cadmium,
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40 watt-hours per kilogram in nickel-metal hydride,
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60 watt-hours per kilogram in lithium,
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8,750 watt-hours of energy in every kilogram of propane or gasoline --
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which is why nobody drives electric cars.
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But, in any event, if you can burn it with the same efficiency --
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because it's external combustion -- as your kitchen stove,
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if you can burn any fuel, it turns out to be pretty neat.
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It makes just enough electricity to, for instance, do this,
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which at night is enough electricity, in the rest of the world,
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as Mr. Holly -- Dr. Holly -- pointed out,
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can run computers and a light bulb.
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But more interestingly, the thermodynamics of this say,
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you're never going to get more than 20 percent efficiency.
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It doesn't matter much -- it says if you get 200 watts of electricity,
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you'll get 700 or 800 watts of heat.
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If you wanted to boil water and re-condense it at a rate of 10 gallons an hour,
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it takes about 25, a little over 25.3 kilowatt --
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25,000 watts of continuous power -- to do it.
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That's so much energy, you couldn't afford to desalinate
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or clean water in this country that way.
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Certainly, in the rest of the world, your choice is to devastate the place,
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turning everything that will burn into heat, or drink the water that's available.
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The number one cause of death on this planet among humans is bad water.
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Depending on whose numbers you believe,
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it's between 60 and 85,000 people per day.
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We don't need sophisticated heart transplants around the world.
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We need water.
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And women shouldn't have to spend four hours a day looking for it,
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or watching their kids die.
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We figured out how to put a vapor-compression distiller on this thing,
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with a counter-flow heat exchanger to take the waste heat,
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then using a little bit of the electricity control that process,
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and for 450 watts, which is a little more than half of its waste heat,
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it will make 10 gallons an hour of distilled water
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from anything that comes into it to cool it.
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So if we put this box on here in a few years,
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could we have a solution to transportation, electricity,
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and communication, and maybe drinkable water
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in a sustainable package that weighs 60 pounds?
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I don't know, but we'll try it.
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I better shut up.
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(Applause)
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