Why theater is essential to democracy | Oskar Eustis

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Theater matters because democracy matters.
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Theater is the essential art form of democracy,
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and we know this because they were born in the same city.
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In the late 6th century BC,
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the idea of Western democracy was born.
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It was, of course,
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a very partial and flawed democracy,
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but the idea that power should stem from the consent of the governed,
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that power should flow from below to above,
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not the other way around,
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was born in that decade.
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And in that same decade, somebody -- legend has it, somebody named Thespis --
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invented the idea of dialogue.
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What does that mean, to invent dialogue?
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Well, we know that the Festival of Dionysus gathered
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the entire citizenry of Athens
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on the side of the Acropolis,
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and they would listen to music, they would watch dancing,
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and they would have stories told as part of the Festival of Dionysus.
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And storytelling is much like what's happening right now:
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I'm standing up here,
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the unitary authority,
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and I am talking to you.
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And you are sitting back, and you are receiving what I have to say.
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And you may disagree with it, you may think I'm an insufferable fool,
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you may be bored to death,
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but that dialogue is mostly taking place inside your own head.
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But what happens if, instead of me talking to you --
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and Thespis thought of this --
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I just shift 90 degrees to the left,
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and I talk to another person onstage with me?
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Everything changes,
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because at that moment, I'm not the possessor of truth;
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I'm a guy with an opinion.
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And I'm talking to somebody else.
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And you know what?
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That other person has an opinion too,
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and it's drama, remember, conflict -- they disagree with me.
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There's a conflict between two points of view.
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And the thesis of that is that the truth can only emerge
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in the conflict of different points of view.
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It's not the possession of any one person.
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And if you believe in democracy, you have to believe that.
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If you don't believe that, you're an autocrat
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who is putting up with democracy.
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But that's the basic thesis of democracy,
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that the conflict of different points of views leads to the truth.
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What's the other thing that's happening?
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I'm not asking you to sit back and listen to me.
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I'm asking you to lean forward
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and imagine my point of view --
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what this looks like and feels like to me as a character.
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And then I'm asking you to switch your mind
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and imagine what it feels like to the other person talking.
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I'm asking you to exercise empathy.
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And the idea that truth comes from the collision of different ideas
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and the emotional muscle of empathy
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are the necessary tools for democratic citizenship.
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What else happens?
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The third thing really is you,
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is the community itself, is the audience.
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And you know from personal experience that when you go to the movies,
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you walk into a movie theater, and if it's empty, you're delighted,
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because nothing's going to be between you and the movie.
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You can spread out, put your legs over the top of the stadium seats,
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eat your popcorn and just enjoy it.
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But if you walk into a live theater
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and you see that the theater is half full,
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your heart sinks.
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You're disappointed immediately,
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because whether you knew it or not,
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you were coming to that theater
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to be part of an audience.
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You were coming to have the collective experience
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of laughing together, crying together, holding your breath together
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to see what's going to happen next.
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You may have walked into that theater as an individual consumer,
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but if the theater does its job,
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you've walked out with a sense of yourself as part of a whole,
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as part of a community.
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That's built into the DNA of my art form.
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Twenty-five hundred years later, Joe Papp decided
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that the culture should belong to everybody in the United States of America,
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and that it was his job to try to deliver on that promise.
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He created Free Shakespeare in the Park.
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And Free Shakespeare in the Park is based on a very simple idea,
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the idea that the best theater, the best art that we can produce,
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should go to everybody and belong to everybody,
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and to this day,
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every summer night in Central Park,
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2,000 people are lining up
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to see the best theater we can provide for free.
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It's not a commercial transaction.
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In 1967, 13 years after he figured that out,
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he figured out something else,
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which is that the democratic circle was not complete
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by just giving the people the classics.
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We had to actually let the people create their own classics
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and take the stage.
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And so in 1967,
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Joe opened the Public Theater downtown on Astor Place,
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and the first show he ever produced was the world premiere of "Hair."
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That's the first thing he ever did that wasn't Shakespeare.
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Clive Barnes in The Times said that it was as if Mr. Papp took a broom
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and swept up all the refuse from the East Village streets
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onto the stage at the Public.
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(Laughter)
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He didn't mean it complimentarily,
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but Joe put it up in the lobby, he was so proud of it.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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And what the Public Theater did over the next years with amazing shows like
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"For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide / When the Rainbow Is Enuf,"
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"A Chorus Line,"
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and -- here's the most extraordinary example I can think of:
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Larry Kramer's savage cry of rage about the AIDS crisis,
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"The Normal Heart."
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Because when Joe produced that play in 1985,
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there was more information about AIDS
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in Frank Rich's review in the New York Times
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than the New York Times had published in the previous four years.
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Larry was actually changing the dialogue about AIDS
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through writing this play,
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and Joe was by producing it.
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I was blessed to commission and work on Tony Kushner's "Angels in America,"
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and when doing that play and along with "Normal Heart,"
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we could see that the culture was actually shifting,
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and it wasn't caused by the theater,
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but the theater was doing its part
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to change what it meant to be gay in the United States.
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And I'm incredibly proud of that.
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(Applause)
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When I took over Joe's old job at the Public in 2005,
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I realized one of the problems we had was a victim of our own success,
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which is: Shakespeare in the Park had been founded as a program for access,
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and it was now the hardest ticket to get in New York City.
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People slept out for two nights to get those tickets.
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What was that doing?
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That was eliminating 98 percent of the population
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from even considering going to it.
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So we refounded the mobile unit
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and took Shakespeare to prisons, to homeless shelters,
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to community centers in all five boroughs
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and even in New Jersey and Westchester County.
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And that program proved something to us that we knew intuitively:
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people's need for theater is as powerful as their desire for food
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or for drink.
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It's been an extraordinary success, and we've continued it.
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And then there was yet another barrier that we realized we weren't crossing,
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which is a barrier of participation.
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And the idea, we said, is:
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How can we turn theater from being a commodity, an object,
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back into what it really is --
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a set of relationships among people?
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And under the guidance of the amazing Lear deBessonet,
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we started the Public Works program,
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which now every summer produces
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these immense Shakespearean musical pageants,
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where Tony Award-winning actors and musicians
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are side by side with nannies and domestic workers
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and military veterans and recently incarcerated prisoners,
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amateurs and professionals,
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performing together on the same stage.
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And it's not just a great social program,
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it's the best art that we do.
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And the thesis of it is that artistry is not something
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that is the possession of a few.
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Artistry is inherent in being a human being.
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Some of us just get to spend a lot more of our lives practicing it.
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And then occasionally --
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(Applause)
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you get a miracle like "Hamilton,"
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Lin-Manuel's extraordinary retelling of the foundational story of this country
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through the eyes of the only Founding Father who was a bastard immigrant orphan
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from the West Indies.
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And what Lin was doing
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is exactly what Shakespeare was doing.
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He was taking the voice of the people, the language of the people,
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elevating it into verse,
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and by doing so,
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ennobling the language
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and ennobling the people who spoke the language.
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And by casting that show entirely with a cast of black and brown people,
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what Lin was saying to us,
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he was reviving in us
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our greatest aspirations for the United States,
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our better angels of America,
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our sense of what this country could be,
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the inclusion that was at the heart of the American Dream.
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And it unleashed a wave of patriotism in me
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and in our audience,
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the appetite for which is proving to be insatiable.
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But there was another side to that, and it's where I want to end,
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and it's the last story I want to talk about.
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Some of you may have heard that Vice President-elect Pence
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came to see "Hamilton" in New York.
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And when he came in, some of my fellow New Yorkers booed him.
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And beautifully, he said,
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"That's what freedom sounds like."
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And at the end of the show,
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we read what I feel was a very respectful statement from the stage,
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and Vice President-elect Pence listened to it,
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but it sparked a certain amount of outrage, a tweetstorm,
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and also an internet boycott of "Hamilton"
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from outraged people who had felt we had treated him with disrespect.
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I looked at that boycott and I said, we're getting something wrong here.
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All of these people who have signed this boycott petition,
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they were never going to see "Hamilton" anyway.
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It was never going to come to a city near them.
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If it could come, they couldn't afford a ticket,
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and if they could afford a ticket, they didn't have the connections
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to get that ticket.
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They weren't boycotting us;
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we had boycotted them.
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And if you look at the red and blue electoral map of the United States,
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and if I were to tell you,
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"Oh, the blue is what designates
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all of the major nonprofit cultural institutions,"
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I'd be telling you the truth.
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You'd believe me.
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We in the culture have done exactly what the economy,
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what the educational system, what technology has done,
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which is turn our back on a large part of the country.
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So this idea of inclusion, it has to keep going.
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Next fall, we are sending out on tour
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a production of Lynn Nottage's brilliant, Pulitzer Prize-winning play "Sweat."
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Years of research in Redding, Pennsylvania led her to write this play
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about the deindustrialization of Pennsylvania:
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what happened when steel left,
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the rage that was unleashed,
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the tensions that were unleashed,
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the racism that was unleashed
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by the loss of jobs.
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We're taking that play and we're touring it
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to rural counties in Pennsylvania,
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Ohio, Michigan,
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Minnesota and Wisconsin.
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We're partnering with community organizations there to try and make sure
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not only that we reach the people that we're trying to reach,
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but that we find ways to listen to them back
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and say, "The culture is here for you, too."
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Because --
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(Applause)
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we in the culture industry,
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we in the theater,
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have no right to say that we don't know what our job is.
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It's in the DNA of our art form.
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Our job "... is to hold up, as 'twere, a mirror to nature;
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to show scorn her image,
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to show virtue her appearance,
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and the very age its form and pressure."
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Our job is to try to hold up a vision to America
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that shows not only who all of us are individually,
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but that welds us back into the commonality that we need to be,
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the sense of unity,
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the sense of whole,
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the sense of who we are as a country.
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That's what the theater is supposed to do,
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and that's what we need to try to do as well as we can.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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