The beauty and complexity of finding common ground | Matt Trombley

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So our story started several years ago,
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when my wife and I got a complaint letter in the mail
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from an anonymous neighbor.
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(Laughter)
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I'll never forget the way my wife transformed before my eyes
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from this graceful, peaceful, sweet woman
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into just an angry mother grizzly bear whose cubs needed to be protected.
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It was intense.
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So here's what happened.
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This is our family.
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This is my wife and I and our five awesome kids.
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We're pretty loud, we're pretty rambunctious,
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we're us.
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You'll notice, though, that two of our children
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look a little different than Mary and I,
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and that's because they came to us through adoption.
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Our neighbor, though, saw two different-looking children
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playing outside of our house every day
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and came to the conclusion
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that we must have been running an illegal day care out of our home.
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(Murmuring)
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We were really angry to have our children stereotyped like that,
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but I know that's a relatively minor example of racial profiling.
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But isn't it sometimes what we all tend to do
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with people who think differently,
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or believe differently or maybe even vote differently?
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Instead of engaging as true neighbors,
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we keep our distance
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and our actions towards those
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are guided by who we think sees the world as we do
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or who we think doesn't.
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See, what my neighbor suffered from is a condition called agonism.
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And sometimes we all suffer from the same condition.
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It's not a medical condition, but it is contagious.
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So let's talk a little bit about what agonism is.
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My favorite definition of agonism
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is taking a warlike stance in contexts that are not literally war.
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Agonism comes from the same Greek root word "agon"
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from which we get "agony."
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How very appropriate.
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We all tend to show symptoms of agonism
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when we hold on to two deeply held beliefs,
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first identified by author Rick Warren.
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The first one is that if love someone,
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we must agree with all they do or believe.
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And the second is the inverse,
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that if we disagree with someone,
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it must mean that we fear or we hate them.
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Not sure we really recognize the agony this way of thinking brings to us,
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when our relationships die
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because we think we have to agree or disagree
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no matter what.
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Think about the conversations we've had around Brexit,
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or Hong Kong,
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maybe Israeli settlements or perhaps impeachment.
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I bet we could all think of at least one personal relationship
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that's been strained or maybe even ended because of these topics,
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or tragically,
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over a topic much more trivial than those.
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The cure for agonism is not out of reach.
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The question is how.
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So might I suggest two strategies
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that my experience has taught me to start with.
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First, cultivate common ground,
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which means focusing on what we share.
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I want you to know I'm using my words very, very deliberately.
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By "cultivate," I mean we have to intentionally work
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to find common ground with someone.
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Just like a farmer works to cultivate the soil.
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And common ground is a common term,
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so let me at least explain what I don't mean,
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which is I don't mean by common ground that we were exact,
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or that we totally agree and approve.
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All I mean is that we find one unifying thing
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that we can have in a relationship in common with another person.
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You know, sometimes that one thing is hard to find.
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So I'd like to share a personal story,
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but before I do,
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let me tell you a little bit more about myself.
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I'm Caucasian,
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cisgender male,
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middle class, evangelical Christian.
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And I know, as soon as some of those words came out of my mouth,
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some of you had some perceptions about me.
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And it's OK,
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I know that not all those perceptions are positive.
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But for those who share my faith,
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know that I'm about to cut across the grain.
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And you may tune me out as well.
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So as we go,
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if you're having a hard time hearing me,
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I just gently ask that you reflect
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and see if you're buying into agonism.
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If you're rejecting me
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simply because you think you see the world differently than I do,
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because isn't that what we're here talking about?
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Alright, ready?
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So I've been thinking a lot about how to find common ground
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in the area of gender fluidity,
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as an evangelical Christian.
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For Christians like me,
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we believe that God created us man and woman.
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So what do I do?
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Do I throw up my hands and say,
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"I can't have a relationship with anybody who is transgender
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or LGBTQIA?"
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No.
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That would be giving into agonism.
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So I started looking at the foundational aspects of my faith,
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the first of which
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is that of the three billion genes that make us human --
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and by the way, we share 99.9 percent of those genes --
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that I believe those three billion genes are the result of an intelligent designer.
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And that immediately gives me common ground with anybody.
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What it also gives me ...
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is the belief that each and every one of us
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have been given the right to life
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by that same intelligent designer.
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I dug deeper though.
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I found that my faith didn't teach me
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to start relationships by arguing with somebody
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until they believed what I believed,
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or I convinced them.
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No, it taught me to start relationships
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by loving them as a coequal member of the human race.
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Honestly though,
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some who share my faith draw a line
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and refuse to address somebody by their preferred gender pronoun.
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But isn't that believing the lie that in order for me to honor you,
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I have to give up what I believe?
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Come back in time with me --
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let's say it's 20 years ago,
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and Muhammad Ali comes to your doorstep.
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And you open the door.
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Would you address him as Muhammad Ali
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or his former name of Cassius Clay?
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I'm guessing that most of you would say Muhammad Ali.
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And I'm also guessing that most of you
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wouldn't think we'd have to immediately convert to Islam,
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just by using his name.
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To honor him would cost me, would cost any of us
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absolutely nothing,
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and it would give us the common ground to have a relationship.
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And it's the relationship that cures agonism,
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not giving up what we believe.
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So for me to honor my faith,
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it means rejecting these rigid symptoms of agonism.
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Meaning, I can and I will love you.
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I can and I will accept you,
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and I don't have to buy into the lie
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that if I do these things, I have to give up what I believe
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or chose to fear and hate you.
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Because I'm focusing on what we have in common.
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When you can find even the smallest bit of common ground with somebody,
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it allows you to understand just the beautiful wonder
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and complexity
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and majesty of the other person.
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Our second strategy
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gives us room to (Inhales)
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breathe.
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To pause.
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To calm down.
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To have the kind of relationships that cure agonism.
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And how to keep those relationships alive.
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Our second strategy is to exchange extravagant grace.
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(Laughs)
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Once again, I'm not mincing words --
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by grace, I don't mean we should all go sign up for ballet,
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that would be weird.
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(Laughter)
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What I mean is not canceling everything over one mistake.
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Even if that mistake personally offended you.
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Maybe even deeply.
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Perhaps Holocaust survivor Corrie ten Boom put it best
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when she said,
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"To forgive is to set a prisoner free,
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only to realize that prisoner was me."
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My faith teaches me that we humans will never be perfect,
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myself very much included.
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So we need the grace of a savior,
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who for me is Jesus.
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And while I define grace in the context of my faith,
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I know there's a lot of other people who have defined it differently
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and in different ways.
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One of my favorites is radio broadcaster Oswald Hoffmann, who said,
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"Grace is the love that loves the unlovely
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and the unlovable."
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And I just love that picture of grace.
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Because I know I am,
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and maybe a lot of you can think of a time
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when we're just pretty dadgum unlovable.
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So it would be the height of hypocrisy,
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dare I say repulsive to my faith,
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for me to accept
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the unconditional, unqualified grace and love from God
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and then turn around
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and put one precondition on the love I give you.
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What in the world would I be thinking?
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And by extravagant, I mean over the top,
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not just checking a box.
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We can all remember when we were kids
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and our parents forced us to apologize to somebody
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and we walked up to them and said, (Angrily) "I'm sorry."
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We just got it over with, right?
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That's not what we're talking about.
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What we're talking about is not having to give someone grace
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but choosing to and wanting to.
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That's how we exchange extravagant grace.
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Listen, I know this can sound really, really theoretical.
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So I'd like to tell you about a hero of mine.
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A hero of grace.
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It's 2014.
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In Iran.
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And the mother of a murdered son is in a public square.
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The man who murdered her son is also in that square,
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by a gallows,
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on a chair of some kind,
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a noose around his neck
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and a blindfold over his eyes.
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Samereh Alinejad
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had been given the sole right under the laws of her country
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to either pardon this man
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or initiate his execution.
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Put another way, she could pardon him
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or literally push that chair out from underneath his feet.
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(Exhales)
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I just ...
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I can't picture the agony going through both Samereh and this man
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at the time.
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Samereh with her choice to make,
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and this man, in the account that I read, was just weeping,
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just begging for forgiveness.
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And Samereh had a choice.
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And she chose in that moment to walk up to this man
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and to slap him right across the face.
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And that signaled her pardon.
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It gets better.
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Right afterwards, somebody asked her,
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they interviewed her, and she was quoted as saying,
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"I felt as if rage vanished from within my heart
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and the blood in my veins began to flow again."
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Isn't that incredible?
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I mean, what a picture of grace, what a hero of grace.
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And there's a lesson in there for all of us.
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That as theologian John Piper said,
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"Grace is power, not just pardon."
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And if you think about it,
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grace is the gift we give someone else in a relationship
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that says our relationship is way more important
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than the things that separate us.
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And if you really think about it some more,
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we all have the power to execute in our relationships,
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or to pardon.
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We never did find out the identity of our anonymous neighbor.
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(Laughter)
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But if we did, I'd hope we'd simply say,
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"Can we have coffee?"
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And maybe there's somebody you need to have coffee with
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and find your common ground with them.
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Or maybe there's somebody you're in a relationship with
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and you need to exchange extravagant grace.
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Maybe go first.
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These two strategies have taught me
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how to exchange extravagant grace in my relationships
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and to enjoy the beautiful design of my neighbors.
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I want to continue to choose relationships over agonism.
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Will you choose to join me?
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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