Making a TED-Ed Lesson: Creative process

Transcriber: Andrea McDonough Reviewer: Jessica Ruby

翻译人员: jing liu 校对人员: Jenny Yang

The healthy liver cell divides only when it's stressed.

健康的肝细胞仅在受到压力时分裂

The healthy hair cell divides frequently.

健康的毛发细胞频繁分裂

And the cancer cell divides even more frequently and recklessly.

而癌细胞分裂则更加频繁且不受控制

"The first draft that I saw was, like,

”我看到初稿时

four days before it was supposed to go online

好像是计划上线的前四天

or something like that,

差不多那时候

and I hadn't heard, you know I hadn't heard, so, I was like,

在此之前我什么都不知道，我就问了一句

'Hey, guys, just wondering if you need me for anything?'

’你好，请问你们需要我帮忙吗？‘

You know?

你知道吗？

And so she floods my inbox with emails, being like,

然后她的邮件涌进我的收件箱

'Yes, we actually need you for a bunch of stuff!'

’是的，我们好多事都需要你帮忙！‘

And it was great.

初稿很棒

Like, when I first saw it,

当我第一次看到时

I mean, you immediately get the whole natural versus unnatural technique."

立刻就能了解整个自然和非自然技术的对立“

"Not good for you?"

"Right, yes, there you go,

“你觉得不够好？”

”对，是的，你说得对

good for you and not good for you.

觉得挺好，但又觉得不够好

Seeing that, actually, was really cool

事实上看着真的很酷

because, I mean, I had no idea.

因为，我的意思是

Writing the script, you have no idea

在写脚本时

what it's going to turn out like in the end.

你根本不知道最终它是什么样的

But you get this, like, intuitive feel of

但你从直觉上明白

'Okay, like, yeah, I get why this is a cancer cell,

为什么这是个癌细胞

and I get why this is a healthy cell.'

那又是个健康细胞

And, actually, I showed it to,

而且，事实上

I showed an early draft to the professor

我把早期版本拿给一位教授看了

with whom I was fact-checking the script

我和他一起检查了脚本是否有违事实

who is a cancer researcher at MIT,

他是麻省理工大学的癌症研究者

and he said that it was one of the best visualizations

然后他说那是他看过的

of cancer cells that he'd ever seen.

讲解癌细胞最好的可视化作品之一

So, that was really cool to hear as well."

听他这么说我很高兴

"When you get a script,

“当你拿到脚本后

do you make a storyboard or not?"

会设计分镜么？”

"I guess it depends on the method

“我觉得这取决于

that we use to produce the piece because, for example,

我们如何制作那段动画

things that would definitely be character-heavy,

有些动画几乎只依靠其中的人物

like 'Ladder of Inference',

比如’推论的阶梯‘ （注：正式标题为"Rethinking Thinking"）

we worked with a storyboard from beginning to end

我们从头到尾依靠分镜

because we were dealing with character animation.

因为我们是在处理角色动画

And something like that is much different

这种动画

than stop-motion, for example.

和，比如，静态动画很不一样

But, also, I mean Biljana and I have also worked together

不过Biljana和我一起

for, like, nearly ten years or something absurd

工作了近10年

so we don't need as much of a, you know,

所以我们心有灵犀

a piece of paper to tell us what to do,

不需要将想法写在纸面

whereas, if I were working with someone new,

然而，如果我是和某个新人合作

then I would really want to work with a storyboard,

那么我真的会想用分镜图

but we kind of trust each other."

不过我和Biljana就可以彼此信任“

"So, you, like, finish...

感觉你们能

...each other's sentences."

明白对方要说什么一样

"We can try that again."

这句重拍吧

"No, we definitely shouldn't use that, it's too cheesy."

”算了，可不要，看着太假了"

"So, there was a part in the video

”所以，在片中有一部分

where we had to represent how the cells reproduce

我们需要演示细胞如何繁殖

and how chemotherapy affects it.

以及化疗如何影响细胞繁殖

And it became quite complicated for me to visualize,

将这个过程可视化对我来说特别复杂

so I actually had to ask you

所以后来我不得不

to draw little doodles for me to actually explain that.

找你画两笔向我解释这个过程

How was that for you?

对那段经历

How was that experience?"

你有什么感想？

"I mean, it was pretty difficult for me to visualize, too,

”我觉得，将它视觉化对我来说也很困难

so, it was interesting.

所以那个经历很有意思

Doing the storyboard actually helped me clarify

做分镜图也让我

in my head, like, how it actually works

在脑海里理清了整个过程

because when you have to explain something

因为当你需要向别人解释一件事时

to someone else, with anything, obviously,

很明显地

you have to, like, really figure it out yourself.

你必须自己真正弄明白

And, then, when you have to draw it,

然后，当你必须要将它画出来

that requires you to take an extra level

那需要你进一步抽象化

of abstraction and figure out,

并且要搞懂

like, okay, like, what are the parts of this drawing

比如，画面中哪些部分

that are really important?

比较重要

What do I have to show clearly,

我要清楚呈现些什么

and how do I show it?

我怎样去呈现？

And, so, doing that on a legal pad,

所以我先在便条纸上画

which is, I think, how I ended up sending it to you guys,

就是我发给你们的

taking a picture of myself on camera,

给我自己拍照很有用，

really helped, you know, me understand the crucial,

真的有助我理解了内容的精要

and that's the crucial part

也就是化疗之所以起作用的

of why chemotherapy actually works.

关键原因

So, it was a really interesting experience."

所以那段经历非常有趣“

"Yeah, we actually started that on a,

”是的，我们事实上开始于。。。

we had a whiteboard,

我们有一块白板

and I was trying to figure out that process.

我尝试着弄懂那个过程

I think we started at the beginning

我记得我们一开始从细胞分裂开始

from cell division and multiplying

然后是细胞繁殖

and, you know, chemotherapy working.

再然后是化疗起作用

But then it became so crazy

但是接下来它太疯狂

that I had to pull back and start from the end

我不得不推倒重来，改从结尾开始

and go in a different direction.

以不一样的方向来做

So, that became quite a challenge, too,

所以，那也是一个很大的挑战

figuring it out."

去把过程理清楚“

"We ended up using the visual that you gave us on the storyboard,

”我们最终用了你的分镜图的呈现方式

which is really cool to have that sort of collaboration

能和与你共事的教育工作者有那样的合作

with the educator with whom you're working."

真的是很酷“

"And I can't draw, so that should be noted.

”而且我不会画画，这必须要说明

It was a very rough storyboard."

那个分镜头脚图很粗糙“

"It was good enough."

”那已经很棒了“

"Good enough!"

”很棒“