Why Most People Don't Have SUCCESS โ€” Podcast for English Learners

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ. ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ืžืชื•ืจื’ืžื•ืช ืžืชื•ืจื’ืžื•ืช ื‘ืžื›ื•ื ื”.

00:00
So I was born in Sรฃo Pauloย  Capital and I grew up there.ย 
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ืื– ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืจื” ืกืื• ืคืื•ืœื• ื•ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื.
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I thought you were going forย  that, um, Fresh Prince line,ย ย 
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ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืขืœ ืงื• ืคืจื™ื ืก ื˜ืจื™,
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like in West Philadelphia, born and raisedย  on the playground is where I spent, anyway...
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ื›ืžื• ื‘ืžืขืจื‘ ืคื™ืœื“ืœืคื™ื”, ืฉื ื•ืœื“ ื•ื’ื“ืœ ื‘ืžื’ืจืฉ ื”ืžืฉื—ืงื™ื ื”ื•ื ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ื™ืœื™ืชื™, ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงืจื”...
00:14
What does your English learning andย  Leonardo DiCaprio have in common? Well,ย ย 
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ืžื” ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื”ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืฉืœืš ื•ืœืœืื•ื ืจื“ื• ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื•? ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ,
00:23
more than you might think. In this episode, weย  talk about achievements and why just focusing onย ย 
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ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืขืฉื•ื™ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘. ื‘ืคืจืง ื–ื”, ืื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื ื•ืžื“ื•ืข ืจืง ื”ืชืžืงื“ื•ืช
00:29
your goals is a bad strategy when it comes to yourย  English learning. I'm joined in the global studioย ย 
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ื‘ื™ืขื“ื™ื ืฉืœืš ื”ื™ื ืืกื˜ืจื˜ื’ื™ื” ื’ืจื•ืขื” ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ื ื•ื’ืข ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ื”ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืฉืœืš. ื”ืฆื˜ืจืฃ ืืœื™ื™ ืœืื•ืœืคืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœืžื™
00:34
today by the most lekker teacher in all Southย  Africa, the one, the only Casse! Hey, Casse.ย 
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ื”ื™ื•ื ื”ืžื•ืจื” ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ืขื™ื ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืจื•ื ืืคืจื™ืงื”, ื”ืงืืกื” ื”ืื—ืช ื•ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ื”! ื”ื™ื™, ืงืืกื”.
00:40
Hey, Thiago. How's it going? I'm doing well. How are you?ย 
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ื”ื™ื™, ื˜ื™ืื’ื•. ืื™ืš ื”ื•ืœืš? ืื ื™ ื‘ืกื“ืจ. ืžื” ืฉืœื•ืžืš?
00:44
I'm good. I'm, I'm really goodย  today. Thank you for asking.ย 
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ืื ื™ ื‘ืกื“ืจ. ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื”ื™ื•ื. ืชื•ื“ื” ืฉืฉืืœืช.
00:47
Awesome. So, Casse, today we are talkingย  all about achievements, right? But whatย ย 
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ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ืื–, ืงืืกื”, ื”ื™ื•ื ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื‘ืœ ืžื”
00:54
does it mean? Could you define to our viewersย  and listeners here what an achievement is?ย 
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ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ? ื”ืื ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื’ื“ื™ืจ ืœืฆื•ืคื™ื ื•ืœืžืื–ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื›ืืŸ ืžื”ื• ื”ื™ืฉื’?
00:59
Uh, yeah, so an achievement is somethingย  that you succeed at. Something that you, you,ย ย 
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ืื”, ื›ืŸ, ืื– ื”ื™ืฉื’ ื”ื•ื ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื” ืžืฆืœื™ื— ื‘ื•. ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื”, ืืชื”,
01:07
a goal that you are successful at or somethingย  that you manage to be really good at in life.ย 
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ืžื˜ืจื” ืฉืืชื” ืžืฆืœื™ื— ื‘ื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื” ืžืฆืœื™ื— ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื.
01:13
Yeah. Yeah. And I think achievementsย  are so important in our lives,ย ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื•,
01:17
right? Because if you don't have achievements,ย  what's the purpose of living? Right? I mean,ย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื›ื™ ืื ืื™ืŸ ืœืš ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื, ืžื”ื™ ืžื˜ืจืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื? ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ื›ืœื•ืžืจ,
01:22
it, it gives us meaning. You work hard forย  something, for a goal, and then you achieve it,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ื ื•ืชืŸ ืœื ื• ืžืฉืžืขื•ืช. ืืชื” ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืงืฉื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืžืฉื”ื•, ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืžื˜ืจื”, ื•ืื– ืืชื” ืžืฉื™ื’ ืื•ืชื•,
01:26
and then you go like, yes. Awesome. What's theย  next challenge? Yeah. So today we're gonna beย ย 
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ื•ืื– ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื›ืŸ. ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ืžื” ื”ืืชื’ืจ ื”ื‘ื? ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื”ื™ื•ื ืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื
01:31
talking all about that and, we're gonna be sharingย  with you guys today, um, some achievements thatย ย 
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ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื•ื ื—ืœื•ืง ืื™ืชื›ื ื”ื™ื•ื, ืื”, ื›ืžื” ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื
01:37
we have experienced in our personal lives, youย  know, I hope that you enjoy it. And also we'reย ย 
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ืฉื—ื•ื•ื™ื ื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉืชื”ื ื• ืžื–ื”. ื•ื’ื ืื ื—ื ื•
01:42
gonna explain exactly what Leonardo DiCaprioย  have to do with all of that. Okay? So Casse,ย ย 
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ื ืกื‘ื™ืจ ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžื” ืœืื•ื ืจื“ื• ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœื›ืœ ื–ื”. ื‘ืกื“ืจ? ืื– ืงืืกื”,
02:06
um, I would like to ask you first, what isย  one achievement you're proud of in your life?ย 
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ืืžืž, ื‘ืจืฆื•ื ื™ ืœืฉืื•ืœ ืื•ืชืš ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ, ืžื”ื• ื”ื™ืฉื’ ืื—ื“ ืฉืืชื” ื’ืื” ื‘ื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™ืš?
02:12
So, one thing that I'm really proud of is that,ย  like, near the end of my high school career,ย ย 
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ืื–, ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ื’ืื” ื‘ื• ื–ื”, ื›ืžื•, ืœืงืจืืช ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื™ ื‘ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ,
02:17
like I was going through some really difficultย  times, like in my family, and I'll spare you guys,ย ย 
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ื›ืื™ืœื• ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืชืงื•ืคื•ืชย ืžืžืฉ ืงืฉื•ืช , ื›ืžื• ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื™, ื•ืื ื™ ืื—ืกื•ืš ืžื›ื,
02:23
like, the details, it's not a sad podcastย  episode. I'll save it for next time. Um,ย ย 
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ื›ืžื•, ื”ืคืจื˜ื™ื, ื–ื” ืœื ืคืจืง ืคื•ื“ืงืืกื˜ ืขืฆื•ื‘ . ืื ื™ ืืฉืžื•ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ืœืคืขื ื”ื‘ืื”. ืืžืž,
02:29
but yeah. Anyway, so I went through some reallyย  difficult times in my family and I was reallyย ย 
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ืŸ. ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงืจื”, ืื– ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ื›ืžื” ืชืงื•ืคื•ืช ืžืžืฉ ืงืฉื•ืช ื‘ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฉืœื™ ื•ืžืžืฉ
02:35
struggling to stay, um, inspired or stay motivatedย  or to see, you know, in terms of my self-esteem,ย ย 
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ื ืื‘ืงืชื™ ืœื”ื™ืฉืืจ, ืืžืž, ื”ืฉืจืื” ืื• ืœืฉืžื•ืจ ืขืœ ืžื•ื˜ื™ื‘ืฆื™ื” ืื• ืœืจืื•ืช, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืขืจื›ื” ื”ืขืฆืžื™ืช ืฉืœื™,
02:45
and, you know, like young kids always think like,ย  oh, what am I gonna become when I'm older? Like,ย ย 
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ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื›ืžื• ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืชื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื›ืžื•, ื”ื•, ืžื” ืื ื™ ืื”ืคื•ืš ื›ืฉืื”ื™ื” ื’ื“ื•ืœ? ื›ืื™ืœื•,
02:49
am I doomed? Am I destined to just like fail?ย  Or, you know, is my life gonna be mediocre orย ย 
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ื”ืื ืื ื™ ื ื™ื“ื•ื ื”? ื”ืื ื ื’ื–ืจ ืขืœื™ ืœื”ื™ื›ืฉืœ? ืื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ืื ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื™ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ื™ื ืื•
02:56
am I ever gonna know what I wanted to do the restย  of my life? And I struggled with that too. But,ย ย 
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ื”ืื ืื™ ืคืขื ืื“ืข ืžื” ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื‘ืฉืืจื™ืช ื—ื™ื™? ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ื ืื‘ืงืชื™ ื‘ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ,
03:02
um, I kept working hard. I kept studying hard,ย  and I was able to successfully, um, be acceptedย ย 
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ืืžืž, ื”ืžืฉื›ืชื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืงืฉื”. ื”ืžืฉื›ืชื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืงืฉื”, ื•ื”ืฆืœื—ืชื™ ืœื”ืชืงื‘ืœ ื‘ื”ืฆืœื—ื”, ืืžืž,
03:11
at the top university in the country. And actuallyย  it's the top university on the continent - I foundย ย 
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ืœืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ืžื•ื‘ื™ืœื” ื‘ืืจืฅ. ื•ืœืžืขืฉื” ื–ื• ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ืžื•ื‘ื™ืœื” ื‘ื™ื‘ืฉืช - ื’ื™ืœื™ืชื™ ืืช
03:18
that out recently - so I was really, it made meย  feel, it filled me with like this huge amount ofย ย 
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ื–ื” ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” - ืื– ื‘ืืžืช, ื–ื” ื’ืจื ืœื™ ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ, ื–ื” ืžื™ืœื ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ื›ืžื•ืช ื”ืขืฆื•ืžื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉืœ
03:28
self, not confidence, wouldn't sayย  self-confidence, but it gave me that boost,ย ย 
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ืขืฆืžื™, ืœื ื‘ื™ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ืขืฆืžื™, ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืžืจ ื‘ื™ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ืขืฆืžื™, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื“ื—ื™ืคื” ื”ื–ื•,
03:33
you know, in terms of my self-esteem and, andย  just, it was like getting that confirmationย ย 
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืขืจื›ื” ื”ืขืฆืžื™ืช ืฉืœื™, ื•ืคืฉื•ื˜ , ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืื™ืฉื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”
03:38
or affirmation that I am able to do greatย  things if I set my mind to it. And, you know,ย ย 
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ืื• ื”ืื™ืฉื•ืจ ืฉืื ื™ ืžืกื•ื’ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื ื”ื“ืจื™ื ืื ืื ื™ ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืืช ื“ืขืชื™ ืœื–ื”. ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
03:47
once I had achieved that, once I was able to, youย  know, register and, and attend this university,ย ย 
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ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื”ืฉื’ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”, ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉื”ืฆืœื—ืชื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœื”ื™ืจืฉื ื•ืœืžื“ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ื–ื•,
03:51
I, I think what also helped me to recognize myย  potential and, and my strengths was that I alsoย ย 
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ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืžื” ืฉื’ื ืขื–ืจ ืœื™ ืœื–ื”ื•ืช ืืช ื”ืคื•ื˜ื ืฆื™ืืœ ืฉืœื™, ื•ื”ื—ื•ื–ืงื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื’ื
04:00
managed to have really great relationships, orย  that's not a good word, but I had a really great,ย ย 
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ื”ืฆืœื—ืชื™ย ย  ืœืงื™ื™ื ืžืขืจื›ื•ืช ื™ื—ืกื™ื ืžืžืฉ ืžืขื•ืœื•ืช, ืื• ืฉื–ืืช ืœื ืžื™ืœื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืžืžืฉ ื ื”ื“ืจืช
04:08
um, set of teachers and lecturers at thisย  university who, who, um, enforced or reiteratedย ย 
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ืฉืœ ืžื•ืจื™ื ื•ืžืจืฆื™ื ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื” ื”ื–ื• , ืฉืื›ืคื• ืื• ื—ื–ืจื•
04:14
that those ideas and those, and affirmed me,ย  you know, in terms of the things that I wantedย ย 
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ืขืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ื•ืืœื•, ื•ืื™ืฉืจื• ืื•ืชื™, ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™
04:19
to do. And, um, I, I know this sounds like I'mย  just, like I was just a kid who was lost andย ย 
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ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ื•ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืฉื–ื” ื ืฉืžืข ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื ื™ ืกืชื, ื›ืื™ืœื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจืง ื™ืœื“ ืฉืื‘ื“ ื•ื”ื™ื™ืชื™
04:25
needed a self-esteem boost, but it, it was biggerย  than that because I think it shaped the way thatย ย 
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ื–ืงื•ืง ืœื—ื™ื–ื•ืง ื”ื”ืขืจื›ื” ื”ืขืฆืžื™ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžื–ื” ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืขื™ืฆื‘ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื”
04:30
I think about myself now. And, you know, thatย  might seem like a tiny moment in, in my past,ย ย 
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ืื ื™ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•. ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื–ื” ืื•ืœื™ ื ืจืื” ื›ืžื• ืจื’ืข ืงื˜ื ื˜ืŸ ื‘ืขื‘ืจ ืฉืœื™,
04:36
but I think it paved, it paved the way, um,ย  to the person that I am today. And it really,ย ย 
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืกืœืœ, ื–ื” ืกืœืœ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš, ืืžืž, ืœืื“ื ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื•ื. ื•ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช,
04:45
it really is something that set theย  foundation of like who I am today andย ย 
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ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ืฆื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ื‘ืกื™ืก ืฉืœ ื›ืžื• ืžื™ ืื ื™ ื”ื™ื•ื ื•
04:50
how I see myself and where I see myselfย  going. So that to me was an achievement.ย 
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ืื™ืš ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื•ืœืืŸ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื”ื•ืœืš. ืื– ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ื™ืฉื’.
04:56
Yeah, it's a great one. Yeah. So that was whenย  you got into a journalism school, right? (No) No?ย 
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ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ืื—ืœื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืฉื ื›ื ืกืช ืœื‘ื™ืช ืกืคืจ ืœืขื™ืชื•ื ืื•ืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? (ืœื ืœื?
05:01
Actually, not journalism school. It, Iย  studied film, media and drama. So, (Before?)ย ย 
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ื‘ืขืฆื, ืœื ื‘ื™ืช ืกืคืจ ืœืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช. ื–ื”, ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืงื•ืœื ื•ืข, ืžื“ื™ื” ื•ื“ืจืžื”. ืื–, (ืœืคื ื™?)
05:09
those were... Yes. Oh, I did. I didn't know that. You see.ย 
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ืืœื” ื”ื™ื•... ื›ืŸ. ืื”, ืขืฉื™ืชื™. ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ืืชื” ืจื•ืื”.
05:14
It's, it's a back back storyย  to like who Casse is. But yeah,ย ย 
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ื–ื”ื•, ื–ื” ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืื—ื•ืจื™ ืœืื”ื•ื‘ ืžื™ ื–ื” ืงืืกื”. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืŸ,
05:19
I studied that before I, Iย  ended up doing journalism.ย 
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ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช.
05:22
That's cool. Yeah. I, I imagine you mustย  have enjoyed that course. I would'veย ย 
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ื–ื” ืžื’ื ื™ื‘. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืžืชืืจ ืœืขืฆืžื™ ืฉื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื ื”ื ื™ืช ืžื”ืงื•ืจืก ื”ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™
05:27
enjoyed that course, I think, you know. The person I am today would appreciateย ย 
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ื ื”ื ื” ืžื”ืงื•ืจืก ื”ื–ื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข. ื”ืื“ื ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื™ื•ื ื™ืขืจื™ืš ืืช
05:34
that course a lot more than the personย  I was back then. I think I was still,ย ย 
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ื”ืงื•ืจืก ื”ื–ื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืื“ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื–. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ,
05:40
I think I was 17 when I, when I startedย  university. And I think my mind wasn't quiteย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืŸ 17 ื›ืฉื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ื‘ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ื”. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืžื•ื— ืฉืœื™ ืœื ืžืžืฉ ื”ื™ื”
05:46
ready for it. But I always, there's a quote thatย  I love. I, oh, and I, English, English literatureย ย 
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ืžื•ื›ืŸ ืœื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืชืžื™ื“, ื™ืฉ ืฆื™ื˜ื•ื˜ ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘. ืื ื™, ืื”, ื•ืื ื™, ืกืคืจื•ืช ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื•ืื ื’ืœื™ืช
05:52
was, was one of my majors as well. That's whyย  I love poetry. I love English so much. But, um,ย ย 
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, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื’ื ืื—ื“ ืžื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื•ืช ืฉืœื™. ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืฉื™ืจื”. ืื ื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืื•ื”ื‘ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืื‘ืœ, ืืžืž,
06:00
there's a quote by George Elliot, that says, ""Itย  is never too late to be what you might have been.ย ย 
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ื™ืฉ ืฆื™ื˜ื•ื˜ ืฉืœ ื’'ื•ืจื’' ืืœื™ื•ื˜, ืฉืื•ืžืจ, "" ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ืžืื•ื—ืจ ืžื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืช ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช.
06:07
It is never too late to be what you mightย  have been."" So I think that, you know,ย ย 
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ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ืžืื•ื—ืจ ืžื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืช ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช."" ืื– ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
06:15
if I think about like what I, what I, who I wasย  back then and who I am now, I still think the twoย ย 
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ืื ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื™, ืžื” ืื ื™, ืžื™ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื– ื•ืžื™ ืื ื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืื ื™ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืฉื ื™ื”ื
06:22
can connect. And somehow that like, media andย  film studies, English literature, it's gonna,ย ย 
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ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ. ื•ืื™ื›ืฉื”ื• ื–ื” ื›ืžื•, ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ ืžื“ื™ื” ื•ืงื•ืœื ื•ืข, ืกืคืจื•ืช ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ื–ื” ื™ืฉื—ืง,
06:30
it's gonna play a role. I'm gonna, I'm still gonnaย  do what I was supposed to do when I was there, so.ย 
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ื–ื” ื™ืฉื—ืง ืชืคืงื™ื“. ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœืš, ืื ื™ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืืขืฉื” ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืืžื•ืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื, ืื–.
06:37
That's amazing. That actually reminds me of thatย  famous, uh, Steve Jobs commencement speech thatย ย 
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ื–ื” ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืžื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืืช ื ืื•ื ื”ืคืชื™ื—ื” ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกื ืฉืœ ืกื˜ื™ื‘ ื’'ื•ื‘ืก
06:44
he gave, I think at Stanford in 2005, ifย  I remember correctly. And in that speech,ย ย 
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ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืฉื, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ื‘ืกื˜ื ืคื•ืจื“ ื‘-2005, ืื ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจ ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ื•ื‘ื ืื•ื ื”ื–ื”,
06:51
he talks about connecting the dots. How sometimesย  you take some courses or you do some things inย ย 
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ื”ื•ื ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช. ืื™ืš ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืืชื” ืœื•ืงื— ื›ืžื” ืงื•ืจืกื™ื ืื• ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืฉื” ื›ืžื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื
06:57
your life, you don't know exactly how you'reย  gonna use that information in the future,ย ย 
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ืฉืœืš, ืืชื” ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืื™ืš ืืชื” ืชืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืžื™ื“ืข ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืขืชื™ื“,
07:02
but you cannot connect the dots looking forward,ย  only looking backwards, right? So maybe in theย ย 
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ืื‘ืœ ืืชื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช ื‘ืžื‘ื˜ ืงื“ื™ืžื”, ืจืง ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ ืื—ื•ืจื”, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื– ืื•ืœื™
07:08
future you look back and then you go like, oh,ย  yeah, now it makes sense why I studied that,ย ย 
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ื‘ืขืชื™ื“ ืืชื” ืžืกืชื›ืœ ืื—ื•ืจื” ื•ืื– ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ื›ืื™ืœื•, ืื”, ื›ืŸ, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ ืœืžื” ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”,
07:12
why I was interested in that, because, youย  know, then I can connect the dots. Uh, oneย ย 
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ืœืžื” ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ื ืชื™ ื‘ื–ื”, ื›ื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื– ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช. ืื”,
07:17
point that you mentioned that I thought it wasย  interesting was the fact that Casse from todayย ย 
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ื ืงื•ื“ื” ืื—ืช ืฉืฆื™ื™ื ืช ืฉื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉืงืืก ืžื”ื™ื•ื
07:25
would probably enjoy that course, the media courseย  more than Casse from the past. And I think thereย ย 
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ื›ื ืจืื” ื™ื”ื ื” ืžื”ืงื•ืจืก ื”ื–ื”, ืงื•ืจืก ื”ืžื“ื™ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืงืืกื” ืžื”ืขื‘ืจ. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘
07:31
is some truth to that in all of us, because we areย  so young, yeah, when we have to make a decisionย ย 
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ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื–ื” ืืžืช ื‘ื›ื•ืœื ื•, ื›ื™ ืื ื—ื ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื, ื›ืŸ, ื›ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื”
07:37
on what to study, like what course to take atย  college, for example, like 17-18, I think. Um,ย ย 
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ืžื” ืœืœืžื•ื“, ื›ืžื• ืื™ื–ื” ืงื•ืจืก ืœืงื—ืช ื‘ืžื›ืœืœื”, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื›ืžื• 17-18, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘. ืืžืž,
07:45
yeah. I mean, maybe if you took that course olderย  and more mature, you would enjoy it more. I guessย ย 
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ื›ืŸ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื•ืœื™ ืื ื”ื™ื™ืช ืœื•ืงื— ืืช ื”ืงื•ืจืก ื”ื–ื” ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื‘ื•ื’ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื”ื™ื™ืช ื ื”ื ื” ืžืžื ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—
07:51
that's why some countries have the, the gap year.ย  Right? Could you explain to the listeners and theย ย 
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ืฉื–ืืช ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืžืกื•ื™ืžื•ืช ื™ืฉ ืืช ืฉื ืช ื”ืคืขืจ. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ื”ืื ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืœืžืื–ื™ื ื™ื ื•ืœืฆื•ืคื™ื
07:58
viewers what a gap year is in that context? Sure. So a gap year is basicallyย ย 
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ืžื”ื™ ืฉื ืช ืคืขืจ ื‘ื”ืงืฉืจ ื”ื–ื”? ื‘ื˜ื•ื—. ืื– ืฉื ืช ืคืขืจ ื”ื™ื ื‘ืขืฆื
08:05
one year, or sometimes people take gap years. It'sย  just a, a break between studying. So usually afterย ย 
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ืฉื ื” ืื—ืช, ืื• ืœืคืขืžื™ื ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื•ืงื—ื™ื ืฉื ื•ืช ืคืขืจ. ื–ื” ืจืง ื”ืคืกืงื” ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื. ืื– ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืื—ืจื™
08:12
you finish high school, you know, you go straightย  to college. But some people prefer to take someย ย 
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ืฉืืชื” ืžืกื™ื™ื ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ื™ืฉืจ ืœืงื•ืœื’โ€™. ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืžืขื“ื™ืคื™ื ืœืงื—ืช ืงืฆืช
08:17
time off from studying, do something else, maybeย  go to work, maybe do an internship, or, you know,ย ย 
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ื—ื•ืคืฉ ืžื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื, ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ืื•ืœื™ ืœืœื›ืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืื•ืœื™ ืœื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช, ืื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
08:24
travel abroad or do something that doesn't requireย  them to study. And usually it's a period whereย ย 
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ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœื—ื•"ืœ ืื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœื ืžื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืื•ืชื ืœืœืžื•ื“. ื•ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื–ื• ืชืงื•ืคื” ืฉื‘ื”
08:30
they find themselves - that's what peopleย  like to say - find out what they want to do,ย ย 
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ื”ื ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื - ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ - ืžื’ืœื™ื ืžื” ื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช,
08:34
or maybe save some money for some people in,ย  you know, it's not a matter of like choice,ย ย 
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ืื• ืื•ืœื™ ืœื—ืกื•ืš ื›ืกืฃ ืœื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื–ื” ืœื ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ื›ืžื•,
08:40
right? So some people need to take some time offย  studying and to go and work to save some money,ย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื– ื™ืฉ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืงื—ืช ืงืฆืช ื—ื•ืคืฉ ืžื”ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ื ื•ืœืœื›ืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ืกื•ืš ืงืฆืช ื›ืกืฃ,
08:46
or, you know, just to figure out what theyย  want to do for the rest of their lives.ย 
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ืื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืžื” ื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืœืฉืืจื™ืช ื—ื™ื™ื”ื.
08:50
Yeah. I think it's a, it's a good idea, youย  know, uh, to see some of the world first,ย ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื”, ืœืจืื•ืช ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืขื•ืœื,
08:55
you know, before going back to school againย  and start studying again. So, yeah, I mean,ย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืชื—ื–ื•ืจ ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ืกืคืจ ื•ืชืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืฉื•ื‘. ืื–, ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ,
08:59
I, I do see the validity in that. We don't haveย  that here in Brazil. Uh, but, um, I think it's a,ย ย 
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ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื›ืŸ ืจื•ืื” ืืช ื”ืชื•ืงืฃ ื‘ื–ื”. ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ืืช ื–ื” ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื‘ืจื–ื™ืœ. ืื”, ืื‘ืœ, ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื”,
09:05
it's a good practice, you know, for young people.ย  Uh, before I share with you my achievement, Casse,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ืชืจื’ื•ืœ ื˜ื•ื‘, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœืฆืขื™ืจื™ื. ืื”, ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืืฉืชืฃ ืื•ืชืš ื‘ื”ื™ืฉื’ ืฉืœื™, ืงืืกื”,
09:11
I do have some vocabulary questions toย  ask you. So you said the word spare atย ย 
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ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉืืœื•ืช ืื•ืฆืจ ืžื™ืœื™ื ืœืฉืื•ืœ ืื•ืชืš. ืื– ืืžืจืช ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื—ื™ืœื•ืฃ
09:15
the beginning. Uh, I wanna spare you the detailsย  or spare you that story. What does that mean?ย 
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ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื”. ืื”, ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื—ืกื•ืš ืžื›ื ืืช ื”ืคืจื˜ื™ื ืื• ืœื—ืกื•ืš ืžื›ื ืืช ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื–ื”. ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ?
09:20
So if you spare someone from something, it meansย  I'm gonna save you. I'm gonna save you from it.ย ย 
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ืื– ืื ืืชื” ื—ื•ืกืš ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžืžืฉื”ื•, ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืื ื™ ืืฆื™ืœ ืื•ืชืš. ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ืฆื™ืœ ืื•ืชืš ืžื–ื”.
09:26
In other words, I, I won't bother youย  by telling you the details. Um, I'mย ย 
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ื‘ืžื™ืœื™ื ืื—ืจื•ืช, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ืื˜ืจื™ื“ ืื•ืชืš ื‘ื›ืš ืฉืืกืคืจ ืœืš ืืช ื”ืคืจื˜ื™ื. ืืžืž, ืื ื™
09:32
gonna spare you from it. I won't put youย  through having to listen to the details.ย 
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ืื—ืกื•ืš ืžืžืš ืžื–ื”. ืื ื™ ืœื ืืขื‘ื™ืจ ืื•ืชืš ืœื”ืงืฉื™ื‘ ืœืคืจื˜ื™ื.
09:37
And you used a very nice word also. Youย  said doomed. Oh, I'm doomed to...Whatย ย 
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ื•ื’ื ื”ืฉืชืžืฉืช ื‘ืžื™ืœื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”. ืืžืจืช ื ื™ื“ื•ืŸ. ื”ื•, ื ื’ื–ืจ ืขืœื™... ืžื”
09:43
does that mean to be doomed? Yeah. So if you're doomed to do something,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื ื™ื“ื•ืŸ? ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ืื ื ื’ื–ืจ ืขืœื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื•,
09:49
um, you know, maybe, you know, ifย  you study something you don't like,ย ย 
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ืืž, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื•ืœื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ืืชื” ืœื•ืžื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืืชื” ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘,
09:54
and now you are doomed to, to followย  that career path means that you haveย ย 
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ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื ื’ื–ืจ ืขืœื™ืš, ืœืœื›ืช ื‘ื ืชื™ื‘ ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ื”ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ
10:00
no choice. It's your destiny to doย  it. But in a, it's a more negative,ย ย 
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ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืšย ย  ื‘ืจื™ืจื”. ื–ื” ื”ื’ื•ืจืœ ืฉืœืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœื™ืœื™,
10:05
in a more negative sense. So like, oh, you'reย  gonna be, you're doomed to do it. You have, you'reย ย 
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ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืœื™ืœื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืื– ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื”ื•, ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช, ื ื’ื–ืจ ืขืœื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”. ื™ืฉ ืœืš, ืืชื”
10:10
gonna have to suffer through that process. Like you're sentenced, right?ย 
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ืชืฆื˜ืจืš ืœืกื‘ื•ืœ ืืช ื”ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื”ื–ื”. ื›ืื™ืœื• ื ืฉืคื˜ืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
10:13
Yes, exactly. So it's a, it's a bad thing,ย ย 
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ื›ืŸ ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง. ืื– ื–ื”, ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืข,
10:18
right? (Yeah) Yeah. Okay. Uh, you, you said theย  word mediocre. Um, so something mediocre meansย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ? (ื›ืŸ ื›ืŸ. ื‘ืกื“ืจ. ืื”, ืืชื”, ืืžืจืช ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ืช. ืื”, ืื– ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ ืคื™ืจื•ืฉื•
10:27
average, something average, mediocre. But I, Iย  would like to highlight that word because I loveย ย 
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ืžืžื•ืฆืข, ืžืฉื”ื• ืžืžื•ืฆืข, ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื“ื’ื™ืฉ ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื–ื• ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘
10:33
the sound of that word. The pronunciationย  - mediocre we say. Right? Can you say thatย ย 
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ืืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื–ื•. ื”ื”ื’ื™ื™ื” - ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ืช ืื ื—ื ื• ืื•ืžืจื™ื. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ื”ืื ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื•ืžืจ ื–ืืช
10:39
again? Mediocre? (Mediocre) Uh, there you go.ย  You got a little bit -kuh at the end there.ย ย 
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ืฉื•ื‘? ื‘ึผึตื™ื ื•ึนื ึดื™? (ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™) ืื”, ื”ื ื”. ื™ืฉ ืœืš ืงืฆืช -ืงื•ื” ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื.
10:44
Yeah? The schwa. Yeah. The schwa, and the, and theย  R is not really pronounced in your case. Right?ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ? ื”ืฉื•ื•ื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื”-schwa, ื•ื”- ื•ื”- R ืœื ืžืžืฉ ืžื‘ื•ื˜ื ื‘ืžืงืจื” ืฉืœืš. ื™ืžื™ืŸ?
10:53
No, no, no. We don't, we don'tย  use the, the rolled R - mediocre.ย 
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ืœื ืœื ืœื. ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื, ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืžืฉืชืžืฉื™ื ื‘-R ื”ืžื’ื•ืœื’ืœ - ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™.
10:59
I love the sound of that word. And mediocre,ย  or mediocre. Yeah. It's great. And you alsoย ย 
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื–ื•. ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™, ืื• ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื–ื” ืžืขื•ืœื”. ื•ืืชื” ื’ื
11:04
said paved the way, that experience pavedย  the way for you. Uh, what does that mean?ย 
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ืืžืจืช ืฉืกืœืœื” ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš, ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ื”ื–ืืช ืกืœืœื” ืœืš ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš. ืื”, ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ?
11:10
Yeah. So when something paves the way forย  something else, it means, think of bricks,ย ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื›ืฉืžืฉื”ื• ืกื•ืœืœ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ืœืžืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ, ืชื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืœื‘ื ื™ื,
11:15
like put you, and you're laying bricks, if you'veย  ever seen that process, or if you think about it,ย ย 
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ื›ืžื• ืœืฉื™ื ืื•ืชืš, ื•ืืชื” ืžื ื™ื— ืœื‘ื ื™ื, ืื ืจืื™ืช ืืช ื”ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื”ื–ื”, ืื• ืื ืืชื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืขืœ ื–ื”,
11:20
uh, maybe the game Tetris, I don't know. I'mย  thinking of like bricks on top of each other. So,ย ย 
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ืื”, ืื•ืœื™ ื”ืžืฉื—ืง ื˜ื˜ืจื™ืก , ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ื›ืžื• ืœื‘ื ื™ื ืื—ื“ ืขืœ ื”ืฉื ื™. ืื–,
11:26
um, if you, if something paves the way forย  something else, it means that it's preparingย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืื ืืชื”, ืื ืžืฉื”ื• ืกื•ืœืœ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ืœ ืžืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ, ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื›ื™ืŸย ย  ืืช
11:32
the path or it, it creates the stepping stones.ย  It create, it creates the pathway to somethingย ย 
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ื”ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืื• ืื•ืชื•, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืืช ืื‘ื ื™ ื”ืžื“ืจืš. ื–ื” ื™ื•ืฆืจ, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืฆืจ ืืช ื”ื ืชื™ื‘ ืœืžืฉื”ื•
11:40
else. So you can even say that someone pavedย  the way for me. In other words, someoneย ย 
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ืื—ืจ. ืื– ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืกืœืœ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš. ื‘ืžื™ืœื™ื ืื—ืจื•ืช, ืžื™ืฉื”ื•
11:46
set the example, they went throughย  it first and they, they created the,ย ย 
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ื ืชืŸ ืืช ื”ื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื”ื•ื ืขื‘ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ืงื•ื“ื ื•ื”ื, ื”ื ื™ืฆืจื• ืืช
11:55
the way for me to do it, the opportunity forย  me to do it because someone else did it first,ย ย 
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ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉืœื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ืืช ื”ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื™ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ ืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื” ืงื•ื“ื,
11:59
I now have the opportunity to do it cuz theyย  paved the way they went through it first,ย ย 
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื–ื” ื›ื™ ื”ื ืกืœืœื• ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื ืขื‘ืจื• ืืช ื–ื” ืงื•ื“ื,
12:04
and now I know what to do. So that's myย  little achievement from when I was younger.ย ย 
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ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืื– ื–ื” ื”ื”ื™ืฉื’ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉืœื™ ืžืื– ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฆืขื™ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ.
12:11
How about you, Thiago? Tell us about yours. Yeah. In my case, Casse, um, I think theย ย 
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ืžื” ืื™ืชืš, ื˜ื™ืื’ื•? ืกืคืจ ืœื ื• ืขืœ ืฉืœืš. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื‘ืžืงืจื” ืฉืœื™, ืงืืกื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืžื•ื‘ืŸ
12:17
obvious one for us here is learning English inย  my home country. Um, I think I, I was able toย ย 
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ืžืืœื™ื• ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื• ื›ืืŸ ื”ื•ื ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื‘ืืจืฅ ื”ื•ืœื“ืชื™. ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืฆืœื—ืชื™
12:22
learn English very well, never having traveledย  abroad. That's an achievement that I'm proud ofย ย 
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ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืžืขื•ืœื ืœื ื ืกืขืชื™ ืœื—ื•"ืœ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ืฉื’ ืฉืื ื™ ื’ืื” ื‘ื•
12:28
and I will be proud of until I die. Right? Uh,ย  but I'm not gonna get into this today because,ย ย 
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ื•ืื ื™ ืื”ื™ื” ื’ืื” ื‘ื• ืขื“ ืฉืืžื•ืช. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืื›ื ืก ืœื–ื” ื”ื™ื•ื ื›ื™
12:34
you know, uh, we've already done a video, whereย  I share my story. So, by the way, guys, if youย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื”, ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืฉื‘ื• ืื ื™ ืžืฉืชืฃ ืืช ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœื™. ืื–, ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘, ื—ื‘ืจ"ื”, ืื ืืชื
12:39
wanna see my story, uh, on how I learned Englishย  here in my home country, Brazil, you can check outย ย 
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ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœื™, ืื”, ืขืœ ืื™ืš ืœืžื“ืชื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืืจืฅ ื”ื•ืœื“ืชื™, ื‘ืจื–ื™ืœ, ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื‘ื“ื•ืงย ย  ืืช
12:45
this lesson here that we're gonna, um, link in theย  description and then you can watch it later. Okay.ย ย 
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ื”ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ื”ื–ื” ื›ืืŸ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื, ืืžืž, ืงื™ืฉื•ืจ ื‘ืชื™ืื•ืจ ื• ื•ืื– ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœืฆืคื•ืช ื‘ื• ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื‘ืกื“ืจ.
12:49
But for this episode, I think the achievementย  I wanted to share was leaving my parents' houseย ย 
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ืื‘ืœ ืœืคืจืง ื”ื–ื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื”ื™ืฉื’ ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื—ืœื•ืง ื”ื™ื” ืœืขื–ื•ื‘ ืืช ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™
12:56
when I was 24. You know, I left my parents'ย  house when I was 24, and I moved not only, uh,ย ย 
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ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืŸ 24. ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืขื–ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™ ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืŸ 24, ื•ืœื ืจืง ืขื‘ืจืชื™
13:05
from their house, but also I moved cities. Yeah.ย  So I am originally from Sao Paulo capital, and I,ย ย 
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ืžื”ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื, ืื‘ืœ ื’ื ืขื‘ืจืชื™ ืขืจื™ื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ืื ื™ ื‘ืžืงื•ืจ ืžื‘ื™ืจืช ืกืื• ืคืื•ืœื•, ื•ืื ื™,
13:11
I was born and raised there. Um, and then at 24,ย  I came to the city where I live today in Curitiba,ย ย 
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ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ื•ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื. ืื”, ื•ืื– ื‘ื’ื™ืœ 24, ื”ื’ืขืชื™ ืœืขื™ืจ ืฉื‘ื” ืื ื™ ื’ืจ ื”ื™ื•ื ื‘ืงื•ืจื™ื˜ื™ื‘ื”,
13:18
which is in the south of the country. And I'm veryย  proud of that because, you know, um, I wanted myย ย 
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ืฉื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื”. ื•ืื ื™ ืžืื•ื“ ื’ืื” ื‘ื–ื” ื›ื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืืžืž, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืืช
13:25
independence at that time. You know, I wanted, Iย  wanted to, you know, get out of my, get, get, get,ย ย 
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ื”ืขืฆืžืื•ืช ืฉืœื™ ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ. ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืจืฆื™ืชื™, ืจืฆื™ืชื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœืฆืืช ืžื”ืื’ืฃ ืฉืœื™, ืœืงื‘ืœ, ืœืงื‘ืœ, ืœืงื‘ืœ,
13:32
what's the, the expression, get away or get outย  of my parents' wing? Is that correct to say that?ย 
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ืžื” ื”ื‘ื™ื˜ื•ื™, ืœื‘ืจื•ื— ืื• ืœืฆืืช ืžื”ืื’ืฃ ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™? ื–ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื–ื”?
13:41
You can say, I, I wanted to get out from under myย  parents' wing. (Ah) like a chicken, you know, the,ย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืฆืืช ืžืชื—ืช ืœื—ืกืš ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™. (ืื”) ื›ืžื• ืชืจื ื’ื•ืœืช, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
13:47
the hen - it walks and her chicks are under here. So the correct way to say this is I wanted to getย ย 
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ื”ืชืจื ื’ื•ืœืช - ื”ื™ื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ื•ื”ื’ื•ื–ืœื™ื ืฉืœื” ื›ืืŸ ืžืชื—ืช. ืื– ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื” ืœื•ืžืจ ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™
13:52
out from under my parents' wings. Yeah. That'sย  what I wanted. Yeah. So I wanted to have my lifeย ย 
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ืœื”ื™ื—ืœืฅ ืžืชื—ืช ืœื›ื ืคื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื™. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืจืฆื™ืชื™. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื™
13:58
and my place and, you know, not having to explainย  myself to it, to everybody. So I did it. Yeah.ย ย 
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ื•ืืช ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉืœื™, ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ืœื–ื”, ืœื›ื•ืœื. ืื– ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ.
14:04
I came here with a couple more friends at thatย  time. We had kind of a similar goal of making it,ย ย 
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ื‘ืืชื™ ืœื›ืืŸ ืขื ืขื•ื“ ื›ืžื” ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ. ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื ื• ืžื˜ืจื” ื“ื•ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”,
14:12
right, in this new city, in this new state. Um,ย  unfortunately they didn't adapt very well to theย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ื‘ืขื™ืจ ื”ื—ื“ืฉื” ื”ื–ื•, ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื”ื—ื“ืฉื” ื”ื–ื•. ืืžืž, ืœืžืจื‘ื” ื”ืฆืขืจ, ื”ื ืœื ื”ืกืชื’ืœื• ื”ื™ื˜ื‘
14:18
city, so they left a few months later. But I did,ย  I left the city and I, I got a job at that time,ย ย 
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ืœืขื™ืจ, ืื– ื”ื ืขื–ื‘ื• ื›ืžื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ืขืฉื™ืชื™, ืขื–ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืขื™ืจ ื•ืื ื™, ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ,
14:25
uh, rather quickly, you know, and I stayed. Yeah.ย  And I think it was, uh, a great decision forย ย 
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ืื”, ื“ื™ ืžื”ืจ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื•ื ืฉืืจืชื™. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ืื”, ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืžืฆื•ื™ื ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจื™
14:32
me, you know, because then I met my, my wife, sheย  is from here, and then, you know, now we have kidsย ย 
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, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื›ื™ ืื– ืคื’ืฉืชื™ ืืช ืืฉืชื™ ืฉืœื™, ื”ื™ื ืžื›ืืŸ, ื•ืื–, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื™ืœื“ื™ื
14:37
together. Yeah. So, um, yeah, it was a, it was aย  great decision. Yeah. But this idea of leaving,ย ย 
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ื‘ื™ื—ื“. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื–, ืืžืž, ื›ืŸ, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืžืฆื•ื™ื ืช. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ ืœืขื–ื•ื‘,
14:44
yeah, relatively young, I think that was, uh,ย  good. It wasn't easy. Of course, I had someย ย 
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ื›ืŸ, ืฆืขื™ืจ ื™ื—ืกื™ืช, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ืื”, ื˜ื•ื‘. ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืงืœ. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื›ืžื”
14:50
challenges. Yeah. Because, you know, you haveย  to do everything on, uh, by yourself, right? Andย ย 
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ืืชื’ืจื™ื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื›ื™, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื”ื›ืœ ืœื‘ื“, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื•
14:54
I did have, I did have some people along the wayย  who helped me, especially at the beginning, right.ย ย 
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ื”ื™ื• ืœื™, ื”ื™ื• ืœื™ ื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ืฉืขื–ืจื• ืœื™, ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื”, ืžืžืฉ.
15:01
Um, with some key things. But overall,ย  I'm proud of that, of leaving early. Yeah.ย 
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ืืžืž, ืขื ื›ืžื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืกืš ื”ื›ืœ, ืื ื™ ื’ืื” ื‘ื–ื”, ืขืœ ื”ื™ืฆื™ืื” ื”ืžื•ืงื“ืžืช. ื›ึผึตืŸ.
15:07
I think like the, the level of independence, um,ย  that, and like self-reliance, I think that's,ย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื›ืžื•, ืจืžืช ื”ืขืฆืžืื•ืช, ืืžืž, ื–ื”, ื•ื›ืžื• ื”ืกืชืžื›ื•ืช ืขืฆืžื™ืช, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื”,
15:17
that's it. Because you, you cannotย  turn to mom and dad and go like, oh,ย ย 
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ื–ื”ื•. ื›ื™ ืืชื”, ืืชื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืคื ื•ืช ืœืืžื ื•ืื‘ื ื•ืœืœื›ืช ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื”ื•,
15:22
you know, I'm struggling right now. Of course youย  can, I'm sure your parents would never turn youย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™ ื ืื‘ืง ืขื›ืฉื™ื•. ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ, ืื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื•ื— ืฉื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœืš ืœืขื•ืœื ืœื ื™ืจื—ืงื• ืื•ืชืš
15:26
away. But I, I, I think it's, you wanna show themย  that, you know, I made this decision. I'm grown.ย ย 
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. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื”, ืืชื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื”ื , ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™ ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ืืช ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ื”ื–ื•. ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ.
15:31
So I think that's really, really awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I love that word that you use,ย ย 
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ืื– ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืžืžืฉ ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื–ื• ืฉื‘ื” ืืชื” ืžืฉืชืžืฉ,
15:36
by the way. Self-reliance. What's that? So when you rely, think of the word rely, so whenย ย 
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ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘. ื”ืกืชืžื›ื•ืช ืขืฆืžื™ืช. ืžื” ื–ื”? ืื– ื›ืฉืืชื” ืกื•ืžืš, ืชื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ืกืชืžืš, ืื– ื›ืฉืืชื”
15:42
you rely on someone, you're, you need them.ย  You know, I'm relying on you. I need you toย ย 
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ืกื•ืžืš ืขืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื•, ืืชื”, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืื•ืชื•. ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™ ืกื•ืžืš ืขืœื™ืš. ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš
15:47
help me with this. Um, when you self-rely, you areย  only, you only need yourself, you're depending onย ย 
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ืฉืชืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื™ ืขื ื–ื”. ืืžืž, ื›ืฉืืชื” ืกื•ืžืš ืขืœ ืขืฆืžืš, ืืชื” ืจืง, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืจืง ืืช ืขืฆืžืš, ืืชื” ืชืœื•ื™
15:55
yourself, your own strengths, your own abilities.ย  I'm self-reliant. I can do it by myself. It'sย ย 
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ื‘ืขืฆืžืš, ื‘ื›ื•ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœืš, ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœื•ืช ืฉืœืš. ืื ื™ ืกื•ืžืš ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™. ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ืœื‘ื“. ื–ื”
15:59
similar to, to being an independent, I guess. But,ย  um, yeah, think of it more like, I don't depend,ย ย 
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ื“ื•ืžื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขืฆืžืื™, ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—. ืื‘ืœ, ืืžืž, ื›ืŸ, ืชื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ืื™ืœื•, ืื ื™ ืœื ืชืœื•ื™,
16:06
I don't need anyone else to do this. I'mย  able to do this on my own. I'm self-reliant.ย 
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื—ืจ ืฉื™ืขืฉื” ืืช ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช ื‘ืขืฆืžื™. ืื ื™ ืกื•ืžืš ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื™.
16:11
Awesome. Cool. I wanna ask you,ย ย 
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ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ืžื’ื ื™ื‘. ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืฉืื•ืœ ืื•ืชืš,
16:14
you said your friends didn't make it. Whatย  does it mean when someone doesn't make it?ย 
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ืืžืจืช ืฉื”ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืœืš ืœื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื•. ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ื›ืฉืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืœื ืžืฆืœื™ื—?
16:21
When you have a goal and you don't achieveย  that, you know, you can say that you didn'tย ย 
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ื›ืฉื™ืฉ ืœืš ืžื˜ืจื” ื•ืืชื” ืœื ืžืฉื™ื’ ืืช ื–ื”, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืœื
16:28
make it. Uh, so when you are not successfulย  at executing a plan, or achieving a goal thatย ย 
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ื”ืฆืœื—ืช. ืื”, ืื– ื›ืฉืืชื” ืœื ืžืฆืœื™ื— ื‘ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืข ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช, ืื• ื‘ื”ืฉื’ืช ืžื˜ืจื”
16:34
you have, you can say that you don't make it.ย  The opposite is also true. If you achieve the,ย ย 
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ืฉื™ืฉ ืœืš, ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉืืชื” ืœื ืžืฆืœื™ื—. ื’ื ื”ื”ืคืš ื”ื•ื ื”ื ื›ื•ืŸ. ืื ื”ืฉื’ืช ืืช,
16:39
the goal that you set for yourself, orย  if you were able to carry out the plan,ย ย 
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ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ืฉื”ืฆื‘ืช ืœืขืฆืžืš, ืื• ืื ื”ืฆืœื—ืช ืœื‘ืฆืข ืืช ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช,
16:45
yeah, that you created, you made it. Uh,ย  we usually say that to refer to success,ย ย 
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ื›ืŸ, ืฉื™ืฆืจืช, ื”ืฆืœื—ืช. ืื”, ืื ื—ื ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ืื•ืžืจื™ื ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืก ืœื”ืฆืœื—ื”,
16:51
right? When a person becomes very successful atย  something, we say that the person has made it.ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื›ืืฉืจ ืื“ื ืžืฆืœื™ื— ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืžืฉื”ื• , ืื ื• ืื•ืžืจื™ื ืฉื”ืื“ื ืขืฉื” ืื•ืชื•.
16:56
You also answered, like you said, you wereย  born and raised, um. What does that mean?ย 
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ื’ื ืขื ื™ืช, ื›ืžื• ืฉืืžืจืช, ื ื•ืœื“ืช ื•ื’ื“ืœืช, ืืžืž. ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ?
17:03
Born and raised. Yeah. So I was born in Saoย  Paulo Capital, and I grew up there. Yeah.ย ย 
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ื ื•ืœื“ ื•ื’ื“ืœ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื ื•ืœื“ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืจื” ืกืื• ืคืื•ืœื• ื•ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื. ื›ึผึตืŸ.
17:09
So my first 24 years of life were spent there. Iย  was raised there. Um, your raise you for example,ย ย 
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ืื– ื‘ื™ืœื™ืชื™ ืฉื ืืช 24 ืฉื ื•ืช ื—ื™ื™ ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื•ืช. ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื. ืืžืž, ืืชื” ืžื’ื“ืœ ืื•ืชืš ืœืžืฉืœ,
17:17
or any close family member, maybe a grandparent.ย  Yeah. But typically your parents, right? So yourย ย 
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ืื• ื›ืœ ื‘ืŸ ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืงืจื•ื‘, ืื•ืœื™ ืกื‘ื ื•ืกื‘ืชื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื”ื”ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœืš, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื–
17:24
mom and dad, they raise you. They help you growย  up well with education and clothing and foodย ย 
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ืืžื ื•ืื‘ื ืฉืœืš, ื”ื ืžื’ื“ืœื™ื ืื•ืชืš. ื”ื ืขื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืš ืœื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื˜ื‘ ืขื ื—ื™ื ื•ืš ื•ืœื‘ื•ืฉ ื•ืื•ื›ืœ
17:31
and health, right? This is raising someone.ย  If you have kids, you have to raise them.ย 
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ื•ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื–ื” ืœื’ื“ืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื™ืœื“ื™ื, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื’ื“ืœ ืื•ืชื.
17:36
I, I thought you were growing, you wereย  going for that, um, Fresh Prince line,ย ย 
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ืื ื™, ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉืืชื” ื’ื“ืœ, ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืขืœ ื–ื”, ืืžืž, ืงื• ืคืจื™ื ืก ื˜ืจื™,
17:42
like in West Philadelphia, born and raised onย  the playground is where I spent, anyway, sorry.ย ย 
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ื›ืžื• ื‘ืžืขืจื‘ ืคื™ืœื“ืœืคื™ื”, ืฉื ื•ืœื“ ื•ื’ื“ืœ ื‘ืžื’ืจืฉ ื”ืžืฉื—ืงื™ื ื”ื•ื ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ื™ืœื™ืชื™, ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงืจื”, ืกืœื™ื—ื”.
17:48
I love that episode you did with, with Ethan. Iย  was watching it again. Yeah. It, it's great thatย ย 
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืคืจืง ืฉืขืฉื™ืช ืื™ืชื•, ืขื ืื™ืชืŸ. ืฆืคื™ืชื™ ื‘ื• ืฉื•ื‘. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื–ื” ื ื”ื“ืจ
17:54
you mentioned that. So, uh, we can also linkย  that episode in the description below, uh, forย ย 
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ืฉืฆื™ื™ื ืช ืืช ื–ื”. ืื–, ืื”, ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ื’ื ืœืงืฉืจ ืืช ื”ืคืจืง ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืชื™ืื•ืจ ืœืžื˜ื”, ืื”, ื›ื“ื™
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the viewers and the listeners, uh, to listen orย  watch later. It's episode 325, where we practiceย ย 
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ืฉื”ืฆื•ืคื™ื ื•ื”ืžืื–ื™ื ื™ื ื™ืงืฉื™ื‘ื• ืื• ื™ืฆืคื• ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื–ื” ืคืจืง 325, ืฉื‘ื• ืื ื• ืžืชืจื’ืœื™ื
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listening skills with the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.ย  That was a fun one to do. Okay, Casse. So now thatย ย 
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ืžื™ื•ืžื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืื–ื ื” ืขื ื”ื ืกื™ืš ื”ื˜ืจื™ ืžื‘ืœ ืื™ื™ืจ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ื™ืฃ ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืงืืกื”. ืื– ืขื›ืฉื™ื•,
18:13
we have both shared a couple of achievements hereย  that we have experienced, I thought it would beย ย 
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ื›ืฉืฉื ื™ื ื• ื—ืœืงื ื• ื›ืืŸ ื›ืžื” ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื ืฉื—ื•ื•ื™ื ื• , ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื”
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cool for us to share, briefly share, um, a storyย  about someone who has achieved huge success onlyย ย 
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ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื• ืœืฉืชืฃ, ืœืฉืชืฃ ื‘ืงืฆืจื”, ืืžืž, ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืขืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ืฉื™ื’ ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ืขื ืงื™ืช ืจืง
18:25
later in their lives. Because many people haveย  this misconception that past a certain age, youย ย 
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ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื•. ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœืื ืฉื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื ื™ืฉ ืืช ื”ืชืคื™ืกื” ื”ืžื•ื˜ืขื™ืช ื”ื–ื• ืฉืื—ืจื™ ื’ื™ืœ ืžืกื•ื™ื, ืืชื”
18:33
are too old, right? Oh, past 40, past 50, or evenย  60, right? I'm too old, I can't do anything else,ย ย 
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ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ ืžื“ื™, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื”, ืื—ืจื™ 40, ืื—ืจื™ 50, ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• 60, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจ ืžื“ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ,
18:40
or I can't accomplish anything else. But theseย  stories that we're gonna briefly share with youย ย 
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ืื• ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ. ืื‘ืœ ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืื™ืชื›ื ื‘ืงืฆืจื”,
18:45
guys actually prove the opposite. And you doย  have a couple of nice examples to give, right?ย 
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ืžื•ื›ื™ื—ื™ื ืœืžืขืฉื” ืืช ื”ื”ื™ืคืš. ื•ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื›ืžื” ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ื ื—ืžื“ื•ืช ืœืชืช, ื ื›ื•ืŸ?
18:50
I wanna add to what you're saying because Iย  think that for women, I'm not saying it's onlyย ย 
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื•ืกื™ืฃ ืœืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืœื ืฉื™ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื–ื” ืžื™ื•ืขื“ย ย ืจืง
18:55
for women, but I think a lot of the time, youย  know, women have a different biological clock.ย ย 
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ืœื ืฉื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื”ื–ืžืŸ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœื ืฉื™ื ื™ืฉ ืฉืขื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ ืฉื•ื ื”.
19:01
So I think women are always thinking about theย  time they get to 30. They need to have certain,ย ย 
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ืื– ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื ืฉื™ื ืชืžื™ื“ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื•ืช ืขืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืฉื”ืŸ ืžื’ื™ืขื•ืช ืœื’ื™ืœ 30. ื”ืŸ ืฆืจื™ื›ื•ืช ืœืกื“ืจ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืกื•ื™ืžื™ื,
19:07
certain things in order. So like, usually it'sย  the family life needs to be, I dunno, at least byย ย 
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ืžืกื•ื™ืžื™ื. ืื– ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ ื–ื” ื—ื™ื™ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช
19:14
your early thirties, you need to have that familyย  life, husband, kids or whatever. You're startingย ย 
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ื”ืฉืœื•ืฉื™ื ื”ืžื•ืงื“ืžื•ืช ืฉืœืš, ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื ื”ืœ ืืช ื—ื™ื™ ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ืืœื” , ื‘ืขืœ, ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืื• ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ืจ. ืืชื” ืžืชื—ื™ืœ
19:18
to think about the future. But when it comes toย  the career, like they always feel like there hasย ย 
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ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ืขืชื™ื“. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉื–ื” ืžื’ื™ืข ืœืงืจื™ื™ืจื”, ื”ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืฉืฆืจื™ื›ื”
19:23
to be a choice: I'm gonna be a career woman, orย  I'm gonna be a family woman. And this is usuallyย ย 
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ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืจื™ืจื”: ืื ื™ ืื”ื™ื” ืืฉืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืื• ืืฉืช ืžืฉืคื—ื”. ื•ื–ื• ื‘ื“ืจืš ื›ืœืœ
19:28
that decision that has, that falls on women. Butย  I think one amazing, uh, example of someone who,ย ย 
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ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”, ืฉื ื•ืคืœืช ืขืœ ื ืฉื™ื. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืื—ืช ืžื“ื”ื™ืžื” ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื™
19:36
um, really hit her stride, like after 30ย  is J.K. Rolling. I think she's like the,ย ย 
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ืฉื‘ืืžืช ืขืฉืชื” ืืช ื”ืฆืขื“ ืฉืœื”, ื›ืžื• ืื—ืจื™ 30, ื”ื™ื ื’'ื™ื™.ืงื™ื™. ื’ึดืœื’ื•ึผืœ. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืžื•
19:42
the best example that I can think of,ย  of someone who really, truly found,ย ย 
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ื”ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœื™ื” ืฉืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื‘ืืžืช, ื‘ืืžืช ืžืฆื,
19:48
um, success later in life, right? When I sayย  later, I'm saying relative because she foundย ย 
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ืืžืž, ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ื‘ื”ืžืฉืš ื”ื—ื™ื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืงืจื•ื‘ ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื›ื™ ื”ื™ื ืžืฆืื”
19:54
it at 32. Um, and that's not late at all. Forย  those of you listening, if you're older than 32,ย ย 
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ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื’ื™ืœ 32. ืืžืž, ื•ื–ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืžืื•ื—ืจ. ืœืืœื• ืžื›ื ืฉืžืื–ื™ื ื™ื, ืื ืืชื ืžืขืœ ื’ื™ืœ 32,
20:00
it's, you're not late. But I think in terms ofย  what society thinks of as, um, older tends to,ย ย 
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ื–ื”, ืœื ืื™ื—ืจืชื. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขืœื™ื• ื›ืžื•, ืืžืž, ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื•ื˜ื™ื,
20:08
you know, by the time you're 32, you should haveย  your life on track. But let me talk about J.K.. Soย ย 
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ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืขื“ ืฉืชื’ื™ืขื• ืœื’ื™ืœ 32, ืืชื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืกืชื“ืจ ืขื ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื›ื. ืื‘ืœ ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื’'ื™ื™ ืงื™ื™. ืื–
20:13
like, what she did was, she was going throughย  a really tough time, you know, like she was,ย ย 
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ื›ืื™ืœื•, ืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืขืฉืชื” ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืขื‘ืจื” ืชืงื•ืคื” ืžืžืฉ ืงืฉื”, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื›ืื™ืœื• ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”,
20:21
um, I believe she was struggling with depression.ย  She was, you know, dealing with financial issuesย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ืŸ ืฉื”ื™ื ื ืื‘ืงื” ื‘ื“ื™ื›ืื•ืŸ. ื”ื™ื, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ืชืžื•ื“ื“ื” ืขื ื‘ืขื™ื•ืช ื›ืœื›ืœื™ื•ืช
20:29
and going through a really bad divorce. And,ย  you know, she, she was also a mom, you know,ย ย 
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ื•ืขื‘ืจื• ื’ื™ืจื•ืฉื™ื ืžืžืฉ ื’ืจื•ืขื™ื. ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ื™ื, ื”ื™ื ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืžื, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
20:35
at the time. And while going through all ofย  that, she started to write Harry Potter. And,ย ย 
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ื‘ื–ืžื ื•. ื•ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืขื‘ืจื” ืืช ื›ืœ ื–ื”, ื”ื™ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื” ืœื›ืชื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ืืจื™ ืคื•ื˜ืจ. ื•,
20:41
um, this book obviously then blew, took theย  world by storm, it blew up. And, um, it wasย ย 
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ืืžืž, ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉื”ืกืคืจ ื”ื–ื” ื”ืชืคื•ืฆืฅ, ื›ื‘ืฉ ืืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื‘ืกืขืจื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืคื•ืฆืฅ. ื•ื–ื”
20:47
published in 1997, and I think she was, yeah, sheย  was 32 at the time, but it really was the start.ย ย 
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ืคื•ืจืกื ื‘-1997, ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื”, ื›ืŸ, ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื‘ืช 32 ืื–, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ื”ืชื—ืœื”.
20:53
It was like the spark that just like ignited herย  career, like it's in a, in a positive way. Like,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื• ื”ื ื™ืฆื•ืฅ ืฉืžืžืฉ ื›ืžื• ื”ืฆื™ืช ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื”, ื›ืื™ืœื• ื–ื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืช. ื›ืื™ืœื•,
20:58
she really blew up after that. I think, uh, maybe, I think I,ย ย 
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ื”ื™ื ื‘ืืžืช ื”ืชืคื•ืฆืฆื” ืื—ืจื™ ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘, ืื”, ืื•ืœื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืื ื™,
21:02
I heard that she wrote the first Harry Potterย  book in a coffee shop, right? Because I don'tย ย 
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ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืืช ื”ืกืคืจ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืืจื™ ืคื•ื˜ืจ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืงืคื”, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืœื
21:07
know if it was cuz of the, the heating systemย  they had, or the wifi, I don't know. But.ย 
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ื™ื•ื“ืข ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื—ื™ืžื•ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื”ื ืื• ื”-wifi, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข. ืื‘ืœ.
21:11
I heard that too. She wrote that in a coffee shop. I don't know ifย ย 
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ื’ื ืื ื™ ืฉืžืขืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”. ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืงืคื”. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข ืื
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it was the whole book or the first chapters. Yeah. And, and just think about like, you know, how,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื”ืกืคืจ ืื• ื”ืคืจืงื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืชื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื›ืžื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื™ืš,
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not only how successful the, the books are or theย  films are, but like, if we think about our own,ย ย 
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ืœื ืจืง ื›ืžื” ืžืฆืœื™ื—ื™ื ื”ืกืคืจื™ื ืื• ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื, ืืœื ื›ืžื•, ืื ื ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืฉืœื ื•,
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like Learn English with TV lessons, likeย  think about how many fans absolutely adoreย ย 
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ื›ืžื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืขื ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”, ื›ืžื• ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ื›ืžื” ืžืขืจื™ืฆื™ื ืžืขืจื™ืฅ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ืืช
21:33
those lessons because it's become suchย  a staple for English learners as well.ย ย 
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ื”ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ืคืš ืœืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ื‘ืกื™ืกื™ ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืœื•ืžื“ื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช.
21:38
Um, so yeah, it's amazing. By the way, what does that mean, whenย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืื– ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘, ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ, ื›ืฉืžืฉื”ื•
21:42
something becomes a staple for a group of people? Like essential, it's like an, yeah. So whenย ย 
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ื”ื•ืคืš ืœืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ืขื™ืงืจื™ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ืื ืฉื™ื? ื›ืžื• ื—ื™ื•ื ื™, ื–ื” ื›ืžื•, ื›ืŸ. ืื– ื›ืฉ
21:48
something is a staple, it's like an essential,ย  it's like a go-to thing. So if you think of likeย ย 
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ืžืฉื”ื• ื”ื•ื ืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ืขื™ืงืจื™, ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ื“ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื•ื ื™, ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื‘ื—ื™ืจื”. ืื– ืื ืืชื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืขืœ
21:53
staple foods of countries, we might say that, Iย  don't know, rice and beans is a staple in Brazil,ย ย 
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ืžื–ื•ืŸ ืขื™ืงืจื™ ืฉืœ ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช, ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื•ืจื– ื•ืฉืขื•ืขื™ืช ื”ื ืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ืขื™ืงืจื™ ื‘ื‘ืจื–ื™ืœ,
22:00
um, you know, corn tends to be a stapleย  here in South Africa. Things like that.ย 
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ืืžืž, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ืชื™ืจืก ื ื•ื˜ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ืขื™ืงืจื™ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ืืคืจื™ืงื”. ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืžื• ื–ื”.
22:05
Essential, nice. It's a staple. That's a, it's aย  great piece of vocabulary. I like that. Yeah. Andย ย 
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ื—ื™ื•ื ื™, ื ื—ืžื“. ื–ื” ืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ื™ืกื•ื“. ื–ื”ื•, ื–ื” ื—ืœืง ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืฉืœ ืื•ืฆืจ ืžื™ืœื™ื. ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื–ื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•
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one example that I have of someone who achievedย  huge success only later in life is actually,ย ย 
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ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืื—ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ืฉื™ื’ ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ืขืฆื•ืžื” ืจืง ื‘ื”ืžืฉืš ื—ื™ื™ื• ื”ื•ื ืœืžืขืฉื”,
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uh, Steve Carell. Um, because, you know, I have, Iย  even have here, um, a paragraph that I got from anย ย 
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ืื”, ืกื˜ื™ื‘ ืงืืจืœ. ืืžืž, ื›ื™, ืืชื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื, ื™ืฉ ืœื™, ืืคื™ืœื• ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื›ืืŸ, ืืžืž, ืคืกืงื” ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™
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article, and let me read it to you guys. Belovedย  comedian, Steve Carell is known for his manyย ย 
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ืžืžืืžืจ, ื•ืชื ื• ืœื™ ืœืงืจื•ื ืื•ืชื” ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื. ืงื•ืžื™ืงืื™ ืื”ื•ื‘, ืกื˜ื™ื‘ ืงืืจืœ ื™ื“ื•ืข ื‘ื–ื›ื•ืช
22:31
blockbuster hits, including The 40-Year-Old Virginย  and the Big Short. But he didn't land his hit roleย ย 
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ืœื”ื™ื˜ื™ ืฉื•ื‘ืจื™ ื”ืงื•ืคื•ืช ื”ืจื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื•, ื›ื•ืœืœ The 40-Year-Old Virgin ื•ื”-Big Short. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžืฆืœื™ื— ืฉืœื•
22:39
as Michael Scott in The Office until he was 42.ย  So, you know, I think that show really made hisย ย 
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ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืžื™ื™ืงืœ ืกืงื•ื˜ ื‘-The Office ืขื“ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ 42. ืื–, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ื”ื–ื• ื‘ืืžืช ืขืฉืชื” ืœื•ย ย  ืืช
22:48
career. Yeah. And we, we both love The Office.ย  It's such a hilarious, uh, TV show. And, uh, it'sย ย 
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ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•ืื ื—ื ื•, ืฉื ื™ื ื• ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืืช ื”ืžืฉืจื“. ื–ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžืฆื—ื™ืงื”, ืื”, ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”. ื•ื–ื”
22:55
crazy to think that when he got that role, he wasย  42 years old already. Right? So, you know, it,ย ย 
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ืžื˜ื•ืจืฃ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ื–ื”, ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ 42. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ืื–, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื–ื”,
23:02
it's a good example of maybe he was, I, I thinkย  he, maybe he had made movies before already. Heย ย 
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ื–ื• ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ืœื›ืš ืฉืื•ืœื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื”, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ื”ื•ื, ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื•ื ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืฉื” ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื‘ืขื‘ืจ. ื”ื•ื
23:06
was already working on it, uh, in the industry.ย  But the big break, let's say, yeah, or the,ย ย 
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ื›ื‘ืจ ืขื‘ื“ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ืื”, ื‘ืชืขืฉื™ื™ื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ืคืจื™ืฆื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื”, ื ื ื™ื—, ื›ืŸ, ืื•
23:13
that role that made his career, yeah, or thatย  really put it on the, put him on the map - itย ย 
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ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ื–ื” ืฉืขืฉื” ืœื• ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”, ื›ืŸ, ืื• ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื”ืขืœื” ืื•ืชื• ืขืœ ื”ืžืคื” - ื–ื”
23:20
only came in his forties. Right? So that's anotherย  example that I can think of, yeah, about that.ย 
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ื”ื’ื™ืข ืจืง ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืืจื‘ืขื™ื ืœื—ื™ื™ื•. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ืื– ื–ื• ืขื•ื“ ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœื™ื”, ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœื–ื”.
23:27
I like what you said, putting, puttingย  him on the map. What does that mean?ย 
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ืžื” ืฉืืžืจืช, ืฉื ืื•ืชื•, ืฉื ืื•ืชื• ืขืœ ื”ืžืคื”. ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ?
23:31
When, in this case, a person becomes more evidentย  or more famous. Yeah. Maybe he was making smallย ย 
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ื›ืืฉืจ, ื‘ืžืงืจื” ื–ื”, ืื“ื ื ืขืฉื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื• ืžืคื•ืจืกื ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื”
23:38
movies or small productions before he was maybeย  somewhat well known, but after The Office,ย ย 
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ืกืจื˜ื™ืย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  ืœืกืจื˜ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื• ืœื”ืคืงื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื•ืช ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื•ืย  ืื•ืœื™ ืžื•ื›ืจ ื‘ืžื™ื“ืช ืžื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืžืฉืจื“ ,
23:44
he became worldwide famous. So that show putย  him on the map. But, um, still talking aboutย ย 
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ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืคืจืกื ื‘ืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืื– ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ื”ื–ืืช ื”ืขืœืชื” ืื•ืชื• ืขืœ ื”ืžืคื”. ืื‘ืœ, ืืžืž, ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ
23:52
achievements, right? Uh, another point that Iย  think is important to mention here is that it'sย ย 
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ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื”, ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื ื•ืกืคืช ืฉืœื“ืขืชื™ ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ ื›ืืŸ ื”ื™ื ืฉื—ืฉื•ื‘
23:58
important to enjoy the journey, right? Becauseย  sometimes we might feel obsessed with the goal,ย ย 
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ืœื™ื”ื ื•ืช ืžื”ื“ืจืš, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉืœืคืขืžื™ื ืื ื—ื ื• ืขืฉื•ื™ื™ื ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ืื•ื‘ืกืกื™ื‘ื™ื™ื ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ืžื˜ืจื”,
24:04
maybe, oh, like learning English or beingย  fluent. But if you don't enjoy the journey,ย ย 
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ืื•ืœื™, ืื”, ื›ืžื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉื•ื˜ืฃ. ืื‘ืœ ืื ืืชื” ืœื ื ื”ื ื” ืžื”ืžืกืข,
24:09
it's gonna be very hard for you to actuallyย  get your destination. Yeah. Because the journeyย ย 
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ื™ื”ื™ื” ืœืš ืงืฉื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœื™ืขื“ ืฉืœืš. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื›ื™ ื”ืžืกืข
24:14
is not pleasant. And these are examples thatย  we are sharing here. For example, like Steveย ย 
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ืœื ื ืขื™ื. ื•ืืœื” ื“ื•ื’ืžืื•ืช ืฉืื ื• ื—ื•ืœืงื™ื ื›ืืŸ. ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื›ืžื• ืกื˜ื™ื‘
24:19
Carell or even J.K. Roland, for example, yeah,ย  they were doing the work for a while, yeah,ย ย 
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ืงืืจืœ ืื• ืืคื™ืœื• J.K. ืจื•ืœื ื“, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื›ืŸ, ื”ื ืขืฉื• ืืช ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื‘ืžืฉืš ื–ืžืŸ ืžื”, ื›ืŸ,
24:26
before, uh, getting that goal or achievingย  that level of success. And another exampleย ย 
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ืœืคื ื™, ืื”, ื”ืฉื™ื’ ืืช ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ื”ื–ื• ืื• ื”ืฉื™ื’ ืืช ืจืžืช ื”ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ื”ื–ื•. ื•ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื ื•ืกืคืช
24:32
that I can think of is Leonardo DiCaprio. Nowย  bringing DiCaprio into the discussion because,ย ย 
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ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœื™ื” ื”ื™ื ืœื™ืื•ื ืจื“ื• ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื•. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืžื‘ื™ื ืืช ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื• ืœื“ื™ื•ืŸ ื›ื™
24:39
um, I remember watching his first movie, Iย  think in the nineties. He, he, I don't know ifย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจ ืฉืฆืคื™ืชื™ ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื•, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืชืฉืขื™ื. ื”ื•ื, ื”ื•ื, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข ืื
24:45
it was his first movie or one of his first moviesย  called Basketball Diaries or something like that,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื• ืื• ืื—ื“ ืžื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœื• ืฉื ืงืจื Basketball Diaries ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”,
24:50
The Basketball Diaries. And he plays, uh, aย  teenager who is addicted to drugs. And, uh, I, Iย ย 
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The Basketball Diaries. ื•ื”ื•ื ืžื’ืœื, ืื”, ื ืขืจ ืฉืžื›ื•ืจ ืœืกืžื™ื. ื•ืื ื™,
24:56
could see back then that he was such a goodย  actor already, but he didn't stop there. I thinkย ย 
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ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ืื– ืฉื”ื•ื ืฉื—ืงืŸ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘ ื›ื‘ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ืขืฆืจ ืฉื. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘
25:01
two years later he did Titanic, which was huge,ย  you know? And ever since, you know, he has beenย ย 
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ืฉืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื•ื ืขืฉื” ืืช ื˜ื™ื˜ืื ื™ืง, ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืขื ืงื™ืช, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข? ื•ืžืื–, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ื•ื
25:09
making lots of good movies, but he only won theย  Oscars recently. Yeah. I think with the Revenant,ย ย 
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ืขืฉื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื–ื›ื” ื‘ืื•ืกืงืจ ืจืง ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืขื Revenant,
25:15
and it was a few years ago. And, there was evenย  talk already of, oh, when is Leo DiCaprio gonnaย ย 
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืœืคื ื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื. ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื“ื™ื‘ืจื• ืขืœ, ื”ื•, ืžืชื™ ืœื™ืื• ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื• ื™ื–ื›ื”
25:22
win the Oscar for best actor? When, you know?ย  People were kind of expecting it, but it wasn'tย ย 
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ื‘ืื•ืกืงืจ ืœืฉื—ืงืŸ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ? ื›ืฉืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข? ืื ืฉื™ื ื“ื™ ืฆื™ืคื• ืœื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื
25:26
happening until it finally happened, happened,ย  like, you know, years later. Yeah. Did you seeย ย 
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ืงืจื” ืขื“ ืฉื–ื” ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ืงืจื”, ืงืจื”, ื›ืžื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืฉื ื™ื ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืจืื™ืช ืืช
25:32
that, by the way, uh, his acceptance speech? I did. I did. And something that I,ย ย 
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ื–ื”, ื“ืจืš ืื’ื‘, ื ืื•ื ื”ืงื‘ืœื” ืฉืœื•? ืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™. ืื ื™ ืขืฉื™ืชื™. ื•ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืื ื™,
25:38
I, I think as well, just to touch on whatย  you mentioned before, like, it's likeย ย 
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ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื’ื ื—ื•ืฉื‘, ืจืง ื›ื“ื™ ืœื’ืขืช ื‘ืžื” ืฉืฆื™ื™ื ืช ืงื•ื“ื, ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื•
25:44
people could be telling you, oh, you're such,ย  you're so good at this, or you should keep going,ย ย 
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ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœืš, ื”ื•, ืืชื” ื›ื–ื”, ืืชื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื–ื”, ืื• ืฉืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ื”ื•ืœืš,
25:49
and you're feeling, you're thinking to yourself,ย  nah, I should give up. If, um, I was good,ย ย 
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ื•ืืชื” ืžืจื’ื™ืฉ, ืืชื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืœืขืฆืžืš, ืœื, ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื•ื•ืชืจ. ืื, ืืžืž, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื˜ื•ื‘,
25:54
I would've been winning awards. If I would'veย  been recognized by the film industry a long,ย ย 
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื–ื•ื›ื” ื‘ืคืจืกื™ื. ืื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื–ื•ื›ื” ืœืชืขืฉื™ื™ืช ื”ืงื•ืœื ื•ืข ืžื–ืžืŸ,
25:58
a long time ago. I've been doing this for years,ย  I should just give up. I'm not that good. Um, andย ย 
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ืžื–ืžืŸ. ืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ ืฉื ื™ื, ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื•ื•ืชืจ. ืื ื™ ืœื ืขื“ ื›ื“ื™ ื›ืš ื˜ื•ื‘. ืืžืž, ื•
26:03
I think with Leonardo DiCaprio in this example, Iย  keep thinking that, I don't think he was fazed by,ย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืขื ืœื™ืื•ื ืจื“ื• ื“ื™ืงืคืจื™ื• ื‘ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ื”ื–ื•, ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉื™ืš ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžื•ืคืชืข ืžื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ
26:12
um, the idea of like, I need to win theย  award in order to feel good about myself,ย ย 
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ื›ืื™ืœื•, ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื–ื›ื•ืช ื‘ืคืจืก ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ืขืฆืžื™,
26:17
or I need to win this award in, in order forย  me to recognize myself as a good actor. He wasย ย 
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ืื• ืื ื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื–ื›ื•ืช ื‘ืคืจืก ื”ื–ื”, ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืื•ื›ืœ ืœื–ื”ื•ืช ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ื›ืฉื—ืงืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ื•ื
26:23
take still taking on roles. He was never goingย  bankrupt, you know, he wasn't declining anything.ย ย 
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ืงื™ื‘ืœ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื™ื. ื”ื•ื ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ืคืฉื˜ ืจื’ืœ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ื•ื ืœื ื“ื—ื” ื›ืœื•ื.
26:28
He was just living his life enjoying the process,ย  as you mentioned before. And I think this is so,ย ย 
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ื”ื•ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื—ื™ ืืช ื—ื™ื™ื• ื•ื ื”ื ื” ืžื”ืชื”ืœื™ืš, ื›ืคื™ ืฉืฆื™ื™ื ืช ืงื•ื“ื. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ื›ืš
26:34
this is so important for all of us to think about,ย  like in our, where we are at in our careers or inย ย 
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26:40
our learning journeys. Um, and yeah, I think it's,ย  it's, it's just a really great point that you, youย ย 
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. ืื”, ื•ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื”, ื–ื”, ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื ืงื•ื“ื” ื ื”ื“ืจืช ืฉืืชื”, ืืชื”
26:46
raised. But yes, on his acceptance speech, really,ย  I, I felt moved. I thought it was really, really,ย ย 
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ื”ืขืœืช. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืŸ, ื‘ื ืื•ื ื”ืงื‘ืœื” ืฉืœื•, ื‘ืืžืช, ืื ื™, ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ื ืจื’ืฉ. ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช, ื‘ืืžืช,
26:52
um, I think there was so many memes about likeย  him before, like him not winning, like, uh,ย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืžื™ื ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ืžื•ื”ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ, ื›ืžื• ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ืžื ืฆื—, ื›ืžื•, ืื”,
26:58
Leo just always waiting for his, his turn. It was,ย  it was a proud moment for sure. (Yeah.) I think.ย 
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ืœื™ืื• ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืชืžื™ื“ ืžื—ื›ื” ืœืชื•ืจื• ืฉืœื•. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืจื’ืข ื’ืื” ืœืœื ืกืคืง. (ื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘.
27:03
I think, uh, he, he's known for being, uh,ย  concerned about the environment? Yeah. Andย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘, ืื”, ื”ื•ื, ื”ื•ื ื™ื“ื•ืข ื‘ื›ืš ืฉื”ื•ื, ืื”, ืžื•ื“ืื’ ืžื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”? ื›ึผึตืŸ.
27:10
I think he actually used that opportunity whenย  he accepted the Oscars, uh, to talk about that,ย ย 
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ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืขืฆื ื ื™ืฆืœ ืืช ื”ื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ื”ื–ื• ื›ืฉืงื™ื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืื•ืกืงืจ, ืื”, ื›ื“ื™ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”,
27:15
right, trying to raise people's awareness of theย  environmental issues we have nowadays. Right? Soย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ืžื ืกื” ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืืช ื”ืžื•ื“ืขื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื ื•ืฉืื™ื ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื™ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื•. ื™ืžื™ืŸ? ืื–
27:22
also, we could say that that was an exampleย  of someone who was standing up for what theyย ย 
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ื’ื ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉื–ื• ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื“ื•ื’ืžื” ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉืขืžื“ ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื
27:27
believe in. So at that moment, he was standingย  up for a belief that he had. And what does thatย ย 
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ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื•. ืื– ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืจื’ืข, ื”ื•ื ืขืžื“ ืขืœ ืืžื•ื ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื•. ื•ืžื” ื–ื”
27:34
mean when you stand up for what you believe in? So, um, I remember we, we, when we were discussingย ย 
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ืื•ืžืจ ื›ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืžื“ ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื•? ืื–, ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจ ืฉืื ื—ื ื•, ืื ื—ื ื•, ื›ืฉื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื•,
27:40
like, um, you know, today's episode, we wereย  talking about like the difference between likeย ย 
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ื›ืžื•, ืืžืž, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื”ืคืจืง ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื, ื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ืขืœ ื”ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ืื™ืœื•
27:46
standing up for, or standing up to, and, um,ย  you know, totally different things. So I'llย ย 
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ืœืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ืขื“, ืื• ืœืขืžื•ื“ ืžื•ืœ, ื•ื‘ื™ืŸ, ืืžืž, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื. ืื– ืื ื™
27:52
just explain the difference in preposition thereย  as well. So when you stand up for something,ย ย 
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ืจืง ืืกื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื‘ืžื™ืœื•ืช ื™ื—ืก ื’ื ืฉื. ืื– ื›ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืžื“ ืขืœ ืžืฉื”ื•,
27:56
you are saying that, you know, this is what Iย  believe in. This is the right way. I'm standingย ย 
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ืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ ืืช ื–ื”, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื•. ื–ื• ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื”. ืื ื™ ืขื•ืžื“
28:03
up for this. I am, I'm in agreement. You'reย  aligning yourself with that thing or that idea,ย ย 
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ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืžืกื›ื™ื. ืืชื” ืžื™ื™ืฉืจ ืืช ืขืฆืžืš ืขื ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื” ืื• ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”,
28:09
and you're saying, um, I'm gonna supportย  this. I'm gonna back this, I'm going to,ย ย 
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ื•ืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ, ืืžืž, ืื ื™ ืืชืžื•ืš ื‘ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœืš ืœื’ื‘ื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”, ืื ื™ ื”ื•ืœืš,
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you know, put myself, uh, in front. Like,ย  let's say you're standing up for human rights,ย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืœืฉื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื™, ืื”, ื‘ื—ื–ื™ืช. ื›ืื™ืœื•, ื ื ื™ื— ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืžื“ ืขืœ ื–ื›ื•ื™ื•ืช ืื“ื,
28:20
you're standing up for the environment. You're,ย  you're saying this is the cause that I believeย ย 
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ืืชื” ืขื•ืžื“ ืขืœ ื”ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื”. ืืชื”, ืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื–ื• ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ืŸ
28:23
in. But if you stand up to someone or something,ย  you are, it's more confrontational. You're saying,ย ย 
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ื‘ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืื ืืชื” ืขื•ืžื“ ืžื•ืœ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื•, ืืชื” ื›ืŸ, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื™ืžื•ืช. ืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ,
28:31
um, you know, I'm, I'm gonna stand up to theย  government. I don't know, for some reason,ย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืืขืžื•ื“ ืžื•ืœ ื”ืžืžืฉืœื”. ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืžืกื™ื‘ื” ื›ืœืฉื”ื™,
28:35
if you feel like standing up to yourย  government, it means that you're saying,ย ย 
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ืื ื‘ื ืœืš ืœืขืžื•ื“ ืžื•ืœ ื”ืžืžืฉืœื” ืฉืœืš, ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ,
28:39
I don't agree with what you're saying, and I'mย  gonna stand up to you now, I'm gonna have my say.ย 
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ืื ื™ ืœื ืžืกื›ื™ื ืขื ืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ, ื•ืื ื™ ืืขืžื•ื“ ืžื•ืœืš ืขื›ืฉื™ื• , ืื ื™ ืื’ื™ื“ ืืช ื“ืขืชื™.
28:43
Yeah. And that actually reminds me, Casse, ofย  a fun fact about the Oscars that Ididn't knowย ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื•ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืžื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™, ืงืืกื”, ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืžื”ื ื” ืขืœ ื”ืื•ืกืงืจ ืฉืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™
28:49
about until a few years ago. Um, as you guys canย  see here in my background, I am a huge Godfatherย ย 
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ืขืœื™ื” ืขื“ ืœืคื ื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื. ืืžืž, ื›ืคื™ ืฉืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืจืื•ืช ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืจืงืข ืฉืœื™, ืื ื™ ืžืขืจื™ืฅ ืขื ืง ืฉืœ ื”ืกื ื“ืง
28:56
fan. Um, and Marlon Brando, who plays the mainย  character, one of the main characters in theย ย 
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. ืืžืž, ื•ืžืจืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืจื ื“ื•, ืฉืžื’ืœื ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ื”ืจืืฉื™ืช, ืื—ืช ื”ื“ืžื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืจืืฉื™ื•ืช ื‘ืกืจื˜
29:02
first movie, he won the Oscars for best actor inย  the seventies. That was 1972 or three if I'm, I'mย ย 
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ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ื”ื•ื ื–ื›ื” ื‘ืื•ืกืงืจ ืœืฉื—ืงืŸ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืฉื‘ืขื™ื. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” 1972 ืื• ืฉืœื•ืฉ ืื ืื ื™, ืื ื™
29:07
mistaken. But he rejected the Oscars, he turned itย  down. And actually, I thought it would be cool forย ย 
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ื˜ื•ืขื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื“ื—ื” ืืช ื”ืื•ืกืงืจ, ื”ื•ื ื“ื—ื” ืืช ื–ื” . ื•ืœืžืขืฉื”, ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื•
29:13
us to watch the clip here of when he was announcedย  as the winner and what happened. So, uh, Thiago,ย ย 
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ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื”ืงืœื™ืค ื›ืืŸ ืฉืœ ืžืชื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ื›ืจื– ื›ืžื ืฆื— ื•ืžื” ืงืจื”. ืื–, ืื”, ื˜ื™ืื’ื•,
29:20
could you please play it for us? The winner isย ย 
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ืชื•ื›ืœ ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื” ืœืฉื—ืง ืืช ื–ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื ื•? ื”ืžื ืฆื— ื”ื•ื
29:28
Marlon Brandoย ย 
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ืžืจืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืจื ื“ื•
29:37
and the Godfather.ย 
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ื•ื”ืกื ื“ืง.
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Hello, my name is Sashi Little Feather. I'mย  Apache and I'm president of the Nationalย ย 
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ืฉืœื•ื, ืฉืžื™ ืฉืฉื™ ื ื•ืฆื” ืงื˜ื ื”. ืื ื™ ืืคืืฆ'ื™ ื•ืื ื™ ื ืฉื™ื
29:57
Native American Affirmative Image Committee.ย  I'm representing Marlon Brando this evening,ย ย 
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ื”ื•ื•ืขื“ื” ื”ืœืื•ืžื™ืชย ย  ืœืชื“ืžื™ืช ื—ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืื™ื ื“ื™ืื ื™ื. ืื ื™ ืžื™ื™ืฆื’ ืืช ืžืจืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืจื ื“ื• ื”ืขืจื‘,
30:02
and he has asked me to tell you in a very longย  speech, which I cannot share with you presentlyย ย 
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ื•ื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ืงืฉ ืžืžื ื™ ืœืกืคืจ ืœืš ื‘ื ืื•ืย  ืืจื•ืš ืžืื•ื“ , ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืื™ืชืš ื›ืจื’ืข
30:09
because of time, but I will be gladย  to share with the press afterwards,ย ย 
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืืฉืžื— ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืขื ื”ืขื™ืชื•ื ื•ืช ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ,
30:14
that he very regretfully cannot acceptย  this very generous award. And the reasonsย ย 
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ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืฆืจ ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืคืจืก ื”ื ื“ื™ื‘ ื”ื–ื”. ื•ื”ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช
30:22
for this being are the treatment of Americanย  Indians today by the film industry, excuse me,ย ย 
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ืœื”ื•ื•ื™ื” ื”ื–ื• ื”ืŸ ื”ื™ื—ืก ืœืื™ื ื“ื™ืื ื™ืย  ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ื ื›ื™ื•ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืชืขืฉื™ื™ืช ื”ืงื•ืœื ื•ืข, ืชืกืœื—ื• ืœื™,
30:40
and on television, in movie reruns, and also withย  recent happenings at Wounded Knee. I beg at thisย ย 
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ื•ื‘ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”, ื‘ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจื™ื ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ื, ื•ื’ื ืขื ื”ื”ืชืจื—ืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื•ืช ื‘-Wounded Knee. ืื ื™ ืžืชื—ื ืŸ ื‘ืฉืขื” ื–ื•
30:49
time that I have not intruded upon this evening,ย  and that we will in the future, our heartsย ย 
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ืฉืœื ื”ืชืขืจื‘ืชื™ ืœืขืจื‘ ื”ื–ื”, ื•ืฉื ืคื’ืฉ ื‘ืขืชื™ื“, ืœื™ื‘ื ื•
30:57
and our understandings will meet with love andย  generosity. Thank you on behalf of Marlon Brando.ย 
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ื•ื”ื”ื‘ื ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื ืคื’ืฉื™ื ื‘ืื”ื‘ื” ื•ื‘ื ื“ื™ื‘ื•ืช . ืชื•ื“ื” ื‘ืฉื ืžืจืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืจื ื“ื•.
31:08
I mean, can you imagine how shocking that mustย  have been at the time? I, I don't remember,ย ย 
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืื ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืชืืจ ืœืขืฆืžืš ื›ืžื” ืžื–ืขื–ืข ื–ื” ื‘ื˜ื— ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ? ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจ,
31:14
maybe there were other cases, but I don'tย  remember other people like rejecting theย ย 
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ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื• ืžืงืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ื–ื•ื›ืจ ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืœื“ื—ื•ืช ืืช
31:18
Oscars. Maybe there are, but what did you think? Yeah. I, I, I think it is quite shocking and quiteย ย 
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ื”ืื•ืกืงืจ. ืื•ืœื™ ื™ืฉ, ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ื—ืฉื‘ืช? ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ื“ื™ ืžื–ืขื–ืข ื•ื“ื™
31:28
like powerful, I think is, is the, the wayย  I would describe it. Because I think peopleย ย 
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ื›ืžื• ืขื•ืฆืžืชื™, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื•ื, ื”ื•ื ื”ื“ืจืš ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืชืืจ ืืช ื–ื”. ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืื ืฉื™ื
31:33
standing up for what they believe in tends to,ย  to connect with our emotions in a way. Like,ย ย 
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ืฉืขื•ืžื“ื™ื ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื ืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ื‘ื• ื ื•ื˜ื™ื, ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืœืจื’ืฉื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช. ื›ืื™ืœื•,
31:40
I mean, whether or not it was something that youย  thought of before, or, I mean, it's that bravery.ย ย 
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื—ืฉื‘ืชื ืขืœื™ื• ืงื•ื“ื, ืื•, ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื–ื” ื”ืื•ืžืฅ ื”ื–ื”.
31:45
It's like sort of like you're so courageousย  to stand up and, and reject something that soย ย 
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ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืฉืืชื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืืžื™ืฅ ืœืงื•ื ื•ืœื“ื—ื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื›ืœ ื›ืš
31:50
many thousands of actors in Hollywood, millions,ย  even , I mean over time, have like, wanted thisย ย 
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ื”ืจื‘ื” ืืœืคื™ ืฉื—ืงื ื™ื ื‘ื”ื•ืœื™ื•ื•ื“, ืžื™ืœื™ื•ื ื™ื, ืืคื™ืœื•, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืœืื•ืจืš ื–ืžืŸ, ืจืฆื• ืืช
31:56
thing. And you're saying, I, I don't want it ifย  that means that you are going to keep treating,ย ย 
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ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื”. ื•ืืชื” ืื•ืžืจ, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืืช ื–ื” ืื ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืืชื” ืชืžืฉื™ืš ืœื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืก,
32:01
um, native Americans in this way or,ย  you know, I just, I just, yeah. I mean,ย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืœืื™ื ื“ื™ืื ื™ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื–ื• ืื•, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื ื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืื ื™ ืคืฉื•ื˜, ื›ืŸ. ื›ืœื•ืžืจ,
32:05
in terms of the representation, uh, which we canย  get into in a minute, but I, I really think it'sย ย 
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ื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื™ืฆื•ื’, ืื”, ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื™ื›ื ืก ืืœื™ื• ืชื•ืš ื“ืงื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ื‘ืืžืช ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื”
32:09
very powerful. I think it's brave. I thinkย  it's courageous. I think it's something,ย ย 
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ืžืื•ื“ ื—ื–ืง. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืืžื™ืฅ. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืืžื™ืฅ. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื•,
32:13
um, that the world needs more of. Yeah, I think there is a, there isย ย 
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ืืžืž, ืฉื”ืขื•ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื ื•. ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื™ืฉ, ื™ืฉ
32:18
an interview that Marlon Brando gave after, atย  a famous talk show in the seventies explainingย ย 
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ืจืื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืžืืจืœื•ืŸ ื‘ืจื ื“ื• ื ืชืŸ ืื—ืจื™, ื‘ืชื•ื›ื ื™ืช ืื™ืจื•ื— ืžืคื•ืจืกืžืช ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืฉื‘ืขื™ื, ื•ื”ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืืช
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his reasoning, uh, why he decided to do this.ย  Uh, but did you hear how when she was speaking,ย ย 
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ื”ื ื™ืžื•ืงื™ื ืฉืœื•, ืื”, ืœืžื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”. ืื”, ืื‘ืœ ืฉืžืขืช ืื™ืš ื›ืฉื”ื™ื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื”,
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some people in the audience was booing her? Youย  know, what does it mean to boo somebody off stage?ย 
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ื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืงื”ืœ ืขืฉื• ืœื” ื‘ื•ื–? ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืžื” ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื‘ื•ื– ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื”ื‘ืžื”?
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If you're booing someone, you areย  basically sort of making a negative, um,ย ย 
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ืื ืืชื” ืžืฉืžื™ืข ื‘ื•ื– ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื•, ืืชื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื’ื•ืจื ืœืฉืœื™ืœื”, ืืžืž,
32:44
having a negative reaction by making the soundย  like boo, like sort of like a thumb's down .ย 
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ืžืงื‘ืœ ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืฉืœื™ืœื™ืช ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ืฉืžืขืช ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ื›ืžื• ื‘ื•ื–, ื›ืžื• ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื’ื•ื“ืœ ืœืžื˜ื” .
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I, I love the fact that, you know, in English,ย  that word is literally the sound that we make,ย ย 
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ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื”, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื–ื• ื”ื™ื ืžืžืฉ ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืฉืื ื• ืžืฉืžื™ืขื™ื,
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right? Boo. Yeah. The word is the soundย  we make. In Portuguese, it is a completelyย ย 
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื‘ื•. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื”ืžื™ืœื” ื”ื™ื ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ืฉืื ื• ืžืฉืžื™ืขื™ื. ื‘ืคื•ืจื˜ื•ื’ื–ื™ืช, ื–ื•
32:59
different word for that. Yeah. It's Vaiar,ย  Vaiar. It's completely different. Yeah. Butย ย 
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ืžื™ืœื” ืฉื•ื ื” ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื–ื”. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื–ื” Vaiar, Vaiar. ื–ื” ืฉื•ื ื” ืœื’ืžืจื™. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื‘ืœ
33:07
I love the fact that in English, we just, youย  know, it is the sound Yeah. To boo boo. Yeah.ย ย 
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ืืช ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืฉื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ืื ื—ื ื• ืคืฉื•ื˜, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื–ื” ื”ืฆืœื™ืœ ื›ืŸ. ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื‘ื•ื– ื‘ื•ื–. ื›ึผึตืŸ.
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Um, she does say, one nice pieceย  of vocabulary there that I thinkย ย 
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ืืžืž, ื”ื™ื ื›ืŸ ืื•ืžืจืช, ื—ืœืง ืื—ื“ ื ื—ืžื“ ืฉืœ ืื•ืฆืจ ืžื™ืœื™ื ืฉื ืฉืœื“ืขืชื™
33:17
is nice to define. She talks about movieย  reruns. What is a rerun? A movie rerun.ย 
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ื ื—ืžื“ ืœื”ื’ื“ื™ืจ ืื•ืชื•. ื”ื™ื ืžื“ื‘ืจืช ืขืœ ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจื™ื ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ื. ืžื” ื–ื” ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจ? ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจ ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜.
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So a rerun is a repeat. So whenย  the movie runs, it's, it, it goes,ย ย 
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ืื– ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจ ื”ื•ื ื—ื–ืจื”. ืื– ื›ืฉื”ืกืจื˜ ืจืฅ, ื–ื”, ื–ื”, ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืœืš,
33:30
it plays, but when you're rerunning it, youย  are playing it again for like, I don't know,ย ย 
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ื”ื•ื ืžืชื ื’ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืืชื” ืžืจื™ืฅ ืื•ืชื• ืžื—ื“ืฉ, ืืชื” ืžืฉื—ืง ืื•ืชื• ืฉื•ื‘, ื›ืื™ืœื•, ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืข,
33:38
the second or third time. So whenever,ย  you know, the however many of the time.ย ย 
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ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืฉื ื™ื™ื” ืื• ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ืช. ืื– ื‘ื›ืœ ืคืขื, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื›ืžื” ืคืขืžื™ื.
33:43
So a rerun is a repeated episode. Episode orย  movie that's been repeated more than once.ย 
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ืื– ืฉื™ื“ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจ ื”ื•ื ืคืจืง ื—ื•ื–ืจ. ืคืจืง ืื• ืกืจื˜ ืฉื—ื–ืจื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืคืขื ืื—ืช.
33:49
And, I, I wanted to bring this clip today becauseย  recently I saw a piece of news from last year,ย ย 
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ื•ืื ื™, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืืช ื”ืงืœื™ืค ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื•ื ื›ื™ ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ืจืื™ืชื™ ื™ื“ื™ืขื” ืžื”ืฉื ื” ืฉืขื‘ืจื”,
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it's very recent in 2022, saying that, uh,ย  the Academy, right, actually issued a formalย ย 
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ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื ืžื–ืžืŸ ื‘-2022, ื•ืื•ืžืจืช ืฉื”ืืงื“ืžื™ื”, ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ื•ืฆื™ืื”
34:04
apology to her only now 49 years later. Yeah. Itย  was, this is like very recent last year, yeah,ย ย 
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ืœื” ื”ืชื ืฆืœื•ืช ืจืฉืžื™ืช ืจืง ืขื›ืฉื™ื• 49 ืฉื ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืื•ื—ืจ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื–ื” ื”ื™ื”, ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ื‘ืฉื ื” ืฉืขื‘ืจื” ืžืื•ื“, ื›ืŸ,
34:12
for the way that she was treated on that day, onย  that in that evening. But can you imagine like,ย ย 
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื”ืื•ืคืŸ ืฉื‘ื• ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืกื• ืืœื™ื” ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื™ื•ื, ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืขืจื‘. ืื‘ืœ ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื“ืžื™ื™ืŸ ื›ืžื•,
34:17
you know, 50, almost 50 years later, yeah,ย  the Academy finally issues a formal apology.ย ย 
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ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, 50, ื›ืžืขื˜ 50 ืฉื ื” ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ื›ืŸ, ื”ืืงื“ืžื™ื” ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ืžื•ืฆื™ืื” ื”ืชื ืฆืœื•ืช ืจืฉืžื™ืช.
34:22
Yeah. So, I thought it was very interesting. Yeah. I, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm not surprised,ย ย 
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ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, ืื ื™, ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืœื ืžื•ืคืชืข,
34:27
let me put it that way. I think progress inย  everything in society as well takes a while.ย ย 
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ืชืŸ ืœื™ ืœื ืกื— ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื›ื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ืชืงื“ืžื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ื—ื‘ืจื” ื’ื ืœื•ืงื—ืช ื–ืžืŸ.
34:35
I think at the time, people's mindsets, theirย  perspectives on things were different to what theyย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื‘ื–ืžื ื•, ื”ืœื›ื™ ื”ืจื•ื— ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื, ื ืงื•ื“ืช ื”ืžื‘ื˜ ืฉืœื”ื ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื•ื ื™ื ืžืžื” ืฉื”ื
34:40
are today. And I'm, I'm really not surprised. It'sย  terrible, but I'm, I'm really not not surprisedย ย 
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ื”ื™ื•ื. ื•ืื ื™, ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืœื ืžื•ืคืชืข. ื–ื” ื ื•ืจื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืœื ืžื•ืคืชืข
34:46
that it took them this long. I'm actually happyย  that they at least got around to doing it because,ย ย 
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ืฉืœืงื— ืœื”ื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ื–ืžืŸ. ืื ื™ ื‘ืขืฆื ืฉืžื— ืฉื”ื ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื–ื” ื›ื™,
34:52
yeah, these, these things often go unaddressed. Yeah. Yeah. So, we were talking about beliefs andย ย 
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ื›ืŸ, ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื” ืœืจื•ื‘ ืœื ืžื˜ื•ืคืœื™ื. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื›ึผึตืŸ. ืื– ื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ืขืœ ืืžื•ื ื•ืช
34:59
standing up for what you believe in, right?ย  Uh, it also reminds me of Simon Sinek and,ย ย 
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ื•ืขืžื™ื“ื” ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื•, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืื”, ื–ื” ื’ื ืžื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืืช ืกื™ื™ืžื•ืŸ ืกื™ื ืง ื•-
35:03
uh, and his famous Tad talk. He talks about howย  when you talk about things that you believe youย ย 
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ืื”, ื•ื”ืจืฆืืช ื”ื˜ืื“ ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกืžืช ืฉืœื•. ื”ื•ื ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ืื™ืš ื›ืฉืืชื” ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืืชื” ืžืืžื™ืŸ ืฉืืชื”
35:09
naturally attract, uh, people who believe whatย  you believe, who believe the same things you do.ย ย 
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ืžื•ืฉืš, ืื”, ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื˜ื‘ืขื™ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ื‘ืžื” ืฉืืชื” ืžืืžื™ืŸ, ืฉืžืืžื™ื ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืชื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืฉื”.
35:15
It's really about finding your group of people,ย  your community, right? And for English learners,ย ย 
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ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืขืœ ืœืžืฆื•ื ืืช ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืœืš, ืืช ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ืฉืœืš, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ื•ืœืœื•ืžื“ื™ื ืื ื’ืœื™ืช,
35:20
I think a great way for you to do that isย  by using our app. If you wanna connect withย ย 
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื“ืจืš ืžืฆื•ื™ื ืช ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื”ืืคืœื™ืงืฆื™ื” ืฉืœื ื•. ืื ืืชื” ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืขื
35:25
other passionate English learners who justย  like you are in this journey of, you know,ย ย 
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ืœื•ืžื“ื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื•ืš ื ืžืฆืื™ื ื‘ืžืกืข ื”ื–ื” ืฉืœ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
35:30
improving their English and becoming moreย  fluent in English, you should definitelyย ย 
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ืœืฉืคืจ ืืช ื”ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื ื•ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉื•ื˜ืฃ ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช, ืืชื” ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืฆืจื™ืš
35:35
check out our app. And I think now is a perfectย  moment for us to go to a shout out section here.
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ืœื‘ื“ื•ืง ืืช ื”ืืคืœื™ืงืฆื™ื” ืฉืœื ื•. ื•ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื”ืจื’ืข ื”ืžื•ืฉืœื ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื• ืœืœื›ืช ืœืžื“ื•ืจ ืฆืขืงื•ืช ื›ืืŸ.
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So I would definitely say that thisย  connects with the mindset and you know,ย ย 
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ืื– ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืฉื–ื” ืžืชื—ื‘ืจ ืœืฆื•ืจืช ื”ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื” ื•ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
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we mentioned before about, you know, how ourย  achievements sort of shape us and how, you know,ย ย 
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ื”ื–ื›ืจื ื• ืงื•ื“ื ืขืœ, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ืื™ืš ื”ื”ื™ืฉื’ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ืžืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืื•ืชื ื• ื•ืื™ืš, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข,
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even if it's a little achievement, even if it'sย  something small that seems insignificant inย ย 
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ื’ื ืื ื–ื” ื”ื™ืฉื’ ืงื˜ืŸ, ื’ื ืื ื–ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉื ืจืื” ื—ืกืจ ืžืฉืžืขื•ืช
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the moment, uh, or small victory, let's call itย  that. If it's a small victory that seems minor,ย ย 
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ื‘ืจื’ืข, ืื”, ืื• ื ื™ืฆื—ื•ืŸ ืงื˜ืŸ, ื‘ื•ืื• ื ืงืจื ืœื–ื” ื›ืš. ืื ื–ื” ื ื™ืฆื—ื•ืŸ ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉื ืจืื” ืžื™ื ื•ืจื™,
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it's insignificant to, might seem insignificantย  in the moment, but it could lead to great thingsย ย 
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ื–ื” ืœื ืžืฉืžืขื•ืชื™, ืื•ืœื™ ื ืจืื” ื—ืกืจ ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืช ื›ืจื’ืข, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœ ืœื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื ื”ื“ืจื™ื
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if you keep going, if you keep working at it.ย  And that starts with a really specific kind ofย ย 
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ืื ืชืžืฉื™ืš, ืื ืชืžืฉื™ืš ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขืœ ื–ื”. ื•ื–ื” ืžืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ืกื•ื’ ืžืกื•ื™ื ื‘ืืžืช ืฉืœ
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mindset, right? You have to have that sort ofย  willingness and that endurance to keep going.ย 
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ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื”, ื ื›ื•ืŸ? ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ื–ื” ืฉืœ ื ื›ื•ื ื•ืช ื•ืกื™ื‘ื•ืœืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš.
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Yeah, we talk about the growth mindset a lot hereย  too. Yeah. Instead of having a fixed mindset,ย ย 
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ื›ืŸ, ื’ื ื›ืืŸ ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขืœ ืฆื•ืจืช ื”ืฆืžื™ื—ื” . ื›ึผึตืŸ. ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื” ืงื‘ื•ืขื”,
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a growth mindset, I'm always learning. I'm openย  to the journey. And life is an adventure. That'sย ย 
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ื—ืฉื™ื‘ื” ืฆืžื™ื—ื”, ืื ื™ ืชืžื™ื“ ืœื•ืžื“. ืื ื™ ืคืชื•ื— ืœืžืกืข. ื•ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ื ื”ืจืคืชืงื”. ื–ื”
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pretty much it. Awesome. So, uh, now we wannaย  hear from you guys, dear viewers and listeners.ย ย 
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ืคื—ื•ืช ืื• ื™ื•ืชืจ. ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ืื–, ืื”, ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื—ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืžื›ื, ืฆื•ืคื™ื ื•ืžืื–ื™ื ื™ื ื™ืงืจื™ื.
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The question for today is, have you seen anyย  movie lately that blew your mind or that blewย ย 
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ื”ืฉืืœื” ืœื”ื™ื•ื ื”ื™ื, ื”ืื ืจืื™ืช ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ืกืจื˜ ื›ืœืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื˜ืจื™ืฃ ืืช ื“ืขืชืš ืื• ืฉื”ื“ื”ื™ื
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you away? Share with us in the comment sectionย  below a nice movie that you have seen recently.ย ย 
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ืื•ืชืš? ืฉืชืฃ ืื•ืชื ื• ื‘ืงื˜ืข ื”ืชื’ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืžืชื—ืช ืœืกืจื˜ ื ื—ืžื“ ืฉืจืื™ืช ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื”.
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Or you can, again, you can also send us an emailย  at [email protected]. I hope youย ย 
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ืื• ืฉืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ, ืฉื•ื‘, ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ื’ื ืœืฉืœื•ื— ืœื ื• ื“ื•ื"ืœ ื‘ื›ืชื•ื‘ืช [email protected]. ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื”
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enjoyed today's episode and stay tuned for nextย  week's one, because it's gonna be also packed withย ย 
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ืฉื ื”ื ืชื ืžื”ืคืจืง ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื ื•ืชืžืฉื™ื›ื• ืœืขืงื•ื‘ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืจืง ืฉืœ ื”ืฉื‘ื•ืข ื”ื‘ื, ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ืขืžื•ืก ื’ื ื‘ืžื™ื“ืข
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info, vocab, inspiration, and other fun stuff.ย  And I'll talk to you soon. So 1, 2, 3. Aww Awwย ย 
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, ืžื™ืœื™ื, ื”ืฉืจืื” ื•ืขื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžื”ื ื™ื. ื•ืื ื™ ืื“ื‘ืจ ืื™ืชืš ื‘ืงืจื•ื‘. ืื– 1, 2, 3. ืื•ื•ื• ืื•ื•ื•ย ย  ื›ืŸ
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yeah yeah! Alright. (Oh, nice.)
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ื›ืŸ! ื‘ึผึฐืกึตื“ึถืจ. (ืื• ื ื—ืžื“.)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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