Trip Down Memory Lane with Rock n' Roll English - British English Podcast

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English Like A Native


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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You are listening to the English Like A Native Podcast.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ English Like A Native ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:03
This is not your typical English language learning resource.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต ์ž๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:08
No, there are no textbooks.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ต๊ณผ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:09
There are no grammar rules.
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๋ฌธ๋ฒ• ๊ทœ์น™์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:11
Instead, you just have the weird and wonderful version of English
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๋Œ€์‹  ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์ƒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์˜์–ด ๋ฒ„์ „์„
00:14
that you'll hear spoken in the UK.
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์ ‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:18
So tune in for your daily dose of very ordinary chatter with
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์•„์ฃผ
00:23
a very ordinary English girl.
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ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์˜๊ตญ ์†Œ๋…€์™€ ๋งค์ผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
00:26
I'm your host, Anna, and today we have a very special guest, the host of
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ Anna์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ
00:31
podcast Rock n' Roll English,
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ Rock n' Roll English์˜ ํ˜ธ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
which is very funny.
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๋งค์šฐ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:34
You should check it out.
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๊ผญ ํ™•์ธํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
00:36
Yes, today we have Martin with us and we are going to be discussing our thoughts
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๋„ค, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งˆํ‹ด๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
00:41
on the changing British High Street.
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๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ์˜๊ตญ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
Now, I must also mention before I bring Martin in, that I was a guest on his
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์ด์ œ ๋งˆํ‹ด์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค์˜ค๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆํ‹ด์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์— ๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ ์ดˆ๋Œ€๋˜์–ด
00:51
podcast and we had a very interesting chat about the differences between
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00:56
the North and the South of England.
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์˜๊ตญ ๋ถ๋ถ€์™€ ๋‚จ๋ถ€์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:59
So make sure you tune into that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ผญ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
01:02
I'll put the links in the description of this particular podcast episode.
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์ด ํŠน์ • ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:06
So without further ado, let me introduce Martin.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ณ ๋ฏผํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋งˆํ‹ด์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
So, hi Martin, how are you?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์•ˆ๋…• ๋งˆํ‹ด, ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด์š”?
01:15
Hello, Anna.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ์•ˆ๋‚˜.
01:16
Very well, thanks.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
Thanks for having me on.
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์ฐธ์—ฌํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
Oh, thank you so much for joining me.
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์•„, ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:19
So, Martin, you have your own podcast, Rock n' Roll English.
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๋งˆํ‹ด ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ Rock n' Roll English๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
01:25
Firstly, the
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๋จผ์ €
01:26
name Rock n' Roll English,
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๋ฝ์•ค๋กค ์ž‰๊ธ€๋ฆฌ์‰ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„,
01:28
are you a rock 'n' roll kind of guy?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฝ์•ค๋กค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:29
Are you a musician of sorts?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
01:32
I obviously get this question a lot and I do kind of feel a bit
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ ,
01:35
stupid now for choosing that name.
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๊ทธ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:38
If I really think about it, the name was just,
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๋ง‰์ƒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
01:40
'Oh, that sounds cool.
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'์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ฐธ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค'์˜€์–ด์š”.
01:41
I'll just use that.'
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.'
01:43
In time, I've then since added, I'm not even sure if this story is true, but
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ํ™•์‹ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
01:48
it's a kind of rock 'n' roll spirit, like be who you want, say what you want.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋กœํฐ๋กค ์ •์‹ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง๋ถ™์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:53
But yeah, am I a musician?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:56
No, unfortunately.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„์š”.
01:58
So what brought you into podcasting?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŒ…์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
01:59
'Cause you've been at it for quite a while now.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฝค ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์™”์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
02:01
Yeah, I have.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด.
02:03
It still seems to me, 'cause as I mentioned to you
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—” ์•„์ง๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€
02:05
in our pre-podcast chat,
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์ „ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ์ด
02:07
I still have no idea what I'm doing.
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์ €๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:10
So it still seems to me like I'm a newbie.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„์ง์€ ์ดˆ๋ณด์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
02:13
But obviously in this online world we live in, things move quite quick.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
So I've been doing it now for six and a half years, a little bit longer.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊ธธ์–ด์ง„ 6๋…„ ๋ฐ˜ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:21
And yeah, I was a big podcast fan, like I still am.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:28
And I kind of just thought, you know what, I fancy having a go at this.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ' ์ด๊ฑฐ ํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค'๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:33
And I also, obviously I was teaching English anyway, and I never really had
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
02:39
lots of, or much good listening material to give to my students and I actually
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์ข‹์€ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์ž๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋ฉฐ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ด๋””์—๋„ ์ถœํŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
02:44
recorded the first probably 10 episodes that I didn't, like, publish anywhere,
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์ฒ˜์Œ 10๊ฐœ์˜ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:49
I literally just sent them manually via email to students and they all said,
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๋ฌธ์ž ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ˆ˜๋™์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ ๋”๋‹ˆ ๋ชจ๋‘
02:55
"Oh no, this is brilliant!"
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"์•„, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ด์š”!"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
So then I thought,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
02:58
'Right, let's do this.'
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'๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•˜์ž'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:59
And it took me about two years to pluck up the courage to actually publish
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•  ์šฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ์•ฝ 2๋…„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:05
it online, because I was so worried what everyone obviously would say.
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. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ• ์ง€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
And yeah, that, that's how it started.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘๋œ ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
03:12
That's how I'm here.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋‹ค.
03:13
Yeah.
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์‘.
03:14
Fantastic.
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03:14
And once you started, you didn't look back.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋‹จ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋’ค๋Œ์•„๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
03:17
Yeah.
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์‘.
03:18
I often tell people this, that if you do things online, you will be surprised how
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด
03:22
quickly people start paying attention.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋†€๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
And you know, I remember the first time I broke the hundred download
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ 100๊ฐœ์˜ ๋‹ค์šด๋กœ๋“œ
03:30
barrier and I was over the moon.
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์žฅ๋ฒฝ์„ ๊นจ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์กŒ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
I actually just couldn't believe it.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:35
And I remember even looking at the countries and like there
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ทธ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉฐ
03:38
were countries very far away.
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์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:41
And I was just thinking,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
03:42
'Oh my God, I cannot believe this.'
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'๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋‹ค๋‹ˆ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:45
And then, yeah, once you've got even just a small number like that of people
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์˜ˆ, ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์ˆซ์ž๋งŒํผ ์ž‘์€ ์ˆซ์ž๋ผ๋„ ์–ป์€ ํ›„์—๋Š”
03:48
paying attention, it's surprising how much motivation you can find to keep going.
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๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์ด ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋†€๋ผ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:53
Yeah.
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์‘.
03:54
It's funny, isn't it, how we can be so nervous about
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
03:59
doing something like podcasts.
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ธด์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ฐธ ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:01
I mean, it's probably one of the safest forms of putting out
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
04:05
content online because people don't really talk back to you.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:08
You don't see the likes and the dislikes and you don't have the negative comments.
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์ข‹์•„์š”์™€ ์‹ซ์–ด์š”๊ฐ€ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋„ ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:13
I occasionally get an email through but it's nowhere near the level of interaction
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๊ฐ€๋” ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€๋งŒ
04:18
I see on other social platforms, which is a blessing and a curse.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์†Œ์…œ ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์—์„œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถ•๋ณต ์ด์ž ์ €์ฃผ์ธ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
It's a blessing in the sense that I'm a little bit oblivious to what's going on.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ๋„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ถ•๋ณต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
I just put out the content and hope for the best, and, you know, it's great
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋†“๊ณ  ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•  ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
04:29
not to have the negativity that can
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04:31
very quickly change the whole experience
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์ „์ฒด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:34
for me, but then it's a curse because you can't interact and know what's working
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €์ฃผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:39
well and what's not working so well.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”์ง€.
04:41
It's quite difficult to read the data.
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๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
You don't get much data really do you?
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:45
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
04:46
But yeah, that's obviously why I chose podcasting because I was, like
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŒ…์„ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์ด์œ ์ž„์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ด. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
04:50
scared to put my face out there.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋‚ด๋ฐ€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‘๋ ค์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์•ผ.
04:51
In fact, even on my website, I had like a cartoon picture of me,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋‚ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—๋„ ๋‚ด ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ๋‹ด๊ธด ๋งŒํ™” ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
04:55
which I still use, because I was too scared to show my actual face.
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๋‚ด ์‹ค์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œ์„œ ์•„์ง๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
04:59
So yeah, it is actually a good place to start if you want to get started in the
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
online world for those reasons as well.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:05
Yeah.
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์‘.
05:06
And so Rock n' Roll English,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ Rock n' Roll English,
05:07
can people just find you on any streaming service?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š” ?
05:11
Any of the big podcast apps.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋Œ€ํ˜• ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์•ฑ.
05:14
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's on all of them.
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์‘, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘ํ•œํ…Œ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ด.
05:15
I'm not sure, but Spotify, Apple Podcast, Podcast Addict.
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ Spotify, Apple Podcast, Podcast Addict.
05:20
I don't know.
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05:20
The list goes on and on.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ชฉ๋ก์€ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:22
Yeah.
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์‘.
05:23
And I'm sure there'll be more popping up over the coming years as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:26
And your podcast is...
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋Š”...
05:28
well, it's hilarious and it's quite different, I'd say, to some of the
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์Œ, ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฒญ์ทจ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค์™€๋Š” ๊ฝค ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
other listening resources that are out there, because you're just kind of
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05:34
like, anything goes really, aren't you?
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?
05:36
It's very relaxed.
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๋งค์šฐ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:37
It's rock 'n' roll!
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05:37
Very real, very rock 'n' roll.
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๋กœํฐ๋กค์ด์—์š”!
๋งค์šฐ ์‹ค์ œ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฝ์•ค๋กค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:39
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
05:41
Uh, yeah.
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์–ด, ์‘.
05:42
And that was another part of the reasoning of just having a chat with some friends.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ์ถ”๋ก ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:49
So the people I generally talk to are really close friends, like some of which,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์นœ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š”
05:56
we've been friends since we were four.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 4์‚ด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
Wow!
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์šฐ์™€!
05:59
We went to school together, so we are really close friends.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์ด ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋…”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:01
They obviously, they know nothing about teaching English.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
06:04
They've got normal jobs, let's say, and we just have a bit of a chat and then
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๋‹ค์Œ
06:10
afterwards, like, analyse what we've spoken about because, yeah, I was and
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ถ„์„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š”
06:15
still am learning Italian, so, and I was listening to Italian podcasts and,
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์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ 15์„ธ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์น ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‹œ์—
06:21
like, you listen to one about, like, Sicilian poetry in the, like, the 15th
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๊ด€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:26
century, which, yeah, is interesting, but sometimes you're just like, I
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๋„ค, ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋”์€ '๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
06:31
would rather just listen to a couple of people having a chat, so that's kind
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๋ช‡ ํŽธ๋งŒ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ' ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
06:36
of what I thought I actually got as well inspiration from a podcast called
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
06:41
My Dad Wrote a Porno I'm, not sure if you've ever heard of that podcast.
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My Dad Wrote a Porno๋ผ๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ์˜๊ฐ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:46
I haven't.
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๋‚˜๋Š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค.
06:47
So it's obviously an English podcast for English people,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋ถ„๋ช… ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์˜์–ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ
06:50
but anyone can listen to it.
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์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:51
It's hilarious, where this guy's dad wrote a very exotic book and
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ด๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ๋Š”๋ฐ
06:57
they just go through the book and just read it and just have a laugh.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์›ƒ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฐŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
And it was brilliant.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
I used to love listening to that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
And again, so I just thought I'd like to make something like this of just
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š”
07:06
entertaining people, just talking about random things and having a bit of a laugh.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์›ƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
So that's what we do.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
Okay.
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07:14
So today, we're going to talk about the high street.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ(High Street)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
I tend to have a kind of British theme in some of my podcasts, kind
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์—์„œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์˜๊ตญ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ์ข…์˜
07:24
of talking about British culture.
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์˜๊ตญ ๋ฌธํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:26
And, you know, I like to also be a little bit nostalgic, and look back at
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์— ์ –์–ด ์ง€๋‚œ
07:30
how things have changed over the years.
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์ฆ˜ ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ
07:33
Every time I'm driving down the high street these days,
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์šด์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
07:36
I'm always looking and going,
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ํ•ญ์ƒ
07:38
"Oh my goodness, it's changed so much."
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'๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ๊ตฌ๋‚˜' ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
I used to love going to the high street when I was a kid and just hanging
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ
07:45
out and spending my pocket money, spending time there with my friends.
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์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฉ๋ˆ์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:50
And these days it's a very different environment.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์š”์ฆ˜์€ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:53
All the shops have changed and the variety, what's on offer has changed.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ์ ์ด ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ œ๊ณต๋˜๋Š” ํ’ˆ๋ชฉ๋„ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:58
So I was living in Italy until last year.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž‘๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:02
And so I lived in Italy for like 12 years.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ 12๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:05
So I noticed this thing a lot, because every time I come back, and I'd be like,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
08:10
"What, like JJB's closed?!"
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"๋ญ์•ผ, JJB๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„?!"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
08:12
Which was a sports shop.
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์Šคํฌ์ธ  ๋งค์žฅ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
08:15
And so yeah, I noticed this change in the local high street.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:21
Yeah.
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08:21
And even, now when I still go in, I'm still sometimes shocked
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ,
08:25
when I go into town, as we say.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋งˆ์„์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๋” ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
So yeah, I noticed this change.
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๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
You were taken aback by these changes.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:32
Yeah, absolutely.
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์‘, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ง€.
08:33
But first of all, we call it the high street.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ์„  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ(high street)๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
Now this only occurred to me a couple of days ago when I knew we
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๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
08:40
were going to record this podcast.
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์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์„ ๋•Œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:41
Like, I'm not sure if it's the same in every country, every, anything you
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ ๋™์ผํ•œ์ง€๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์—๋Š”
08:44
drive down tends to have its own name.
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๊ณ ์œ ํ•œ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:46
So we have roads, streets, avenues.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋„๋กœ, ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ, ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
Drives.
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08:50
Drives.
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๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ.
๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ.
08:51
Yeah.
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์‘.
08:52
So you might have Anna Drive.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ Anna Drive๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:54
I don't think you'd have Anna Drive, but whatever it would...
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์• ๋‚˜ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ(Anna Drive)๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ , ๋ญ๋“  ๊ฐ„์—...
08:57
King Drive.
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ํ‚น ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ(King Drive)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:58
But the high street is not always called 'High Street'.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋ฅผ ํ•ญ์ƒ 'ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:04
And I realised, oh, but we refer to every thoroughfare in the kind of
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
09:09
centre of an area, as the high street.
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์ง€์—ญ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
So a thoroughfare being like a route, a path that people go through.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ธธ, ๊ธธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:18
And it's usually they've got a lot of footfall if there's a thoroughfare.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐœ๊ธธ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
It means there's a lot of people coming through that particular route.
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์ด๋Š” ํŠน์ • ๊ฒฝ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:24
So it's like the main street within a town where there are
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
09:28
shops on either side of the street.
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๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ์–‘์ชฝ์— ์ƒ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋„์‹œ ๋‚ด์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:31
So it's normally around where there'd be a train station or a bus station, you
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ณดํ†ต ๊ธฐ์ฐจ์—ญ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฒ„์Šค ์ •๋ฅ˜์žฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ,
09:35
know, somewhere where lots of people are.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:37
And we refer to that in every single town as a high street, even if it's
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:44
not called 'High Street', like, you know, it might be called Charles
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'ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„ ์ฐฐ์Šค ๋กœ๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„
09:47
Road, but it's the high street.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
Of course.
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๋ฌผ๋ก .
09:50
Have you ever thought about that?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
09:52
Isn't that weird?
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ด์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„?
09:53
Yeah, no, I hadn't actually thought about it at all.
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์‘, ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ „ํ˜€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด.
09:56
But I would say certainly where I live, it would be...
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
10:00
And when I was a child, it was more common to say, "I'm going into town" than to
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” "์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”"๋ผ๊ณ 
10:06
say like "I'm going to the high street."
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค "์‹œ๋‚ด๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ํ”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ."
10:07
Or if you said, like, for example, I would only really
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๋˜๋Š” ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
10:09
say high street if someone said,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
10:11
"Where is that shop?"
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"๊ทธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” high street๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
And I would say,
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10:12
"Oh, it's on the high street."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
"์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ํฐ๊ธธ์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:13
Because in town there is the high street, which is...
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์‹œ๋‚ด์—๋Š” ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
10:17
The main strip.
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๋ฉ”์ธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฝ์ด์ฃ .
10:19
Which is the main strip.
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๋ฉ”์ธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:20
Yeah, that's one way of putting it.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์—์š”.
10:22
But then you've obviously got a few streets going off that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ƒ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:24
where there are still shops.
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.
10:26
The high street where I live is like pedestrianised as well.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋„ ๋ณดํ–‰์ž ์ „์šฉ ๋„๋กœ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
So there are no cars.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:30
When I was a child, it wasn't, but now it is.
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์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:33
Yeah.
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10:33
How did they stop cars going down there?
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์‘.
๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ง‰์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
10:35
Have they literally like paved the entire thing?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:38
So there's no road or have they put bollards in?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ณผ๋ผ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์„ค์น˜ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
10:40
No, no road.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋„๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:41
So I did look up the whole high street naming thing and what I found was the
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ดค๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
10:46
high street of any British town or city is normally the central retail thoroughfare,
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์˜๊ตญ์˜ ์–ด๋–ค ๋งˆ์„์ด๋‚˜ ๋„์‹œ์˜ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ค‘์•™ ์†Œ๋งค ๋„๋กœ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:52
and as we've said, it's not necessarily called the high street, but in many cases
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
10:57
it is called 'High Street' and it says in the English Midlands, high streets
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'ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ(High Street)'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ์˜๊ตญ ๋ฏธ๋“ค๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋ฅผ
11:03
are generally called 'Main Street'.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ '๋ฉ”์ธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ(Main Street)'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
However, in some towns like Norwich, no street is called 'High Street'.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ Norwich์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ๋Š” 'High Street'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:11
And whether this thoroughfare is called 'High Street' or not, the
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ 'ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋“  ์•„๋‹ˆ๋“ ,
11:14
high street is the common term that we use to discuss that main
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ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋Š”
11:17
thoroughfare where all the shops are.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์š” ๋„๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์šฉ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:19
Now you can very quickly tell what an area is like based on the high street.
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์ด์ œ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์ค€์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ง€์—ญ์ด ์–ด๋–ค์ง€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
11:23
So I think the high street is a clear reflection of a healthy
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ฒˆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ
11:26
town, so an unhealthy high street.
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๋งˆ์„, ์ฆ‰ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กœ์šด ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:28
I haven't thought about that either actually, but it is true.
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์ €๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”.
11:30
100% true.
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100% ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:31
Yeah, absolutely.
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์‘, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ง€.
11:32
So if an area is quite deprived, then you're going to have a high street that's
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ง€์—ญ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์—ด์•…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
11:37
looking, you know, quite unhealthy.
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์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
And do you have any, can you kind of explain what an unhealthy
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กœ์šด
11:41
high street would look like?
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์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ชจ์Šต์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
11:45
I would probably have a look at some of the shops on the high street.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ์ ๋“ค์„ ์ข€ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
11:50
Empty units would be a really clear indication of an
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๋นˆ ์œ ๋‹›์€
11:53
unhealthy or deprived area.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กญ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฐ•ํƒˆ๋œ ์ง€์—ญ์„ ์ •๋ง ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:56
We saw that a lot after COVID.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜ ์ดํ›„์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
I don't know if you noticed that.
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11:58
I was just about to say that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„ ์ฐจ๋ ธ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ง‰ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋˜ ์ฐธ์ด์—ˆ์–ด.
12:00
In fact, in my local high street, one of the big, most established shops, probably
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์—๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฌ๊ณ  ํ™•๊ณ ํ•œ ์ƒ์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด๋ฉฐ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
12:06
the biggest shop on the high street, Debenhams, which any person from the UK
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์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ƒ์ ์ธ Debenhams๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜
12:11
will know, shut, and that is still shut.
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ Debenhams๋Š” ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:16
Yeah, I think Debenhams, along with many other well-established chains,
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๋„ค, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— Debenhams๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช… ์ฒด์ธ์ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
12:20
have actually decided to cut down the number of stores that they have.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งค์žฅ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:24
They've brought a lot back because I guess the biggest problem is, well, rising
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
12:30
rents, the cost of everything is going up.
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์ž„๋Œ€๋ฃŒ ์ƒ์Šน, ๋ชจ๋“  ๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ƒ์Šนํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋˜์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
So actually, putting these stores in place is, just too expensive.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋งค์žฅ์„ ๋งˆ๋ จํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:37
And I think online shopping has had a big impact on the high street.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‡ผํ•‘์ด ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์— ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:43
All you do now is just, oh, I need some batteries for my microphone.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ผ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ '์•„, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ์šฉ ๋ฐฐํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ด์š”'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
Just go onto Amazon.
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12:47
They'll be brought to my door.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•„๋งˆ์กด์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด ์ง‘๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ๋  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
12:50
And so going down to the shops, going to the high street just doesn't happen.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
Oh, that's exactly what I do.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์—์š”.
12:56
I'm too lazy to go out and go to the shop and buy some batteries.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฒŒ์œผ๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ฐฐํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:01
So I'll just buy them on Amazon, which I know isn't great, but
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•„๋งˆ์กด์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
13:06
obviously, and same as you, children, running a business like...
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋„ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ...
13:11
No time.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:12
No time at all.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:13
So if I can save some time, I will.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ข€ ์ ˆ์•ฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”.
13:16
Yeah, and I think it's also like, it's many things that you used
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
13:21
to go to the high street for.
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.
13:22
So a high street, it used to have a lot of things like a post office,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์—๋Š” ์šฐ์ฒด๊ตญ, ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€ ์€ํ–‰๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:28
the high street bank, because banking online wasn't always a thing.
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. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๋ฑ…ํ‚น์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:33
And so you'd have your high street bank, your post office, then you'd
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹œ๋‚ด ์€ํ–‰, ์šฐ์ฒด๊ตญ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ ,
13:36
have things like your butcher, your baker, your candlestick maker.
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์ •์œก์ , ๋นต ๊ตฝ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ , ์ด›๋Œ€ ์ œ์ž‘์ž ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:41
So I lived in Italy for 12 years where both of those things are really common and
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ 12๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ด์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ”ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:46
so especially a baker like buying fresh bread we literally had one underneath
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋นต ๊ตฝ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ๋นต์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ
13:51
our apartment in Italy, and you can literally smell the bread in the morning.
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์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ ๋ฐ‘์— ๋นต ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์•„์นจ์— ๋นต ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋ฅผ ๋งก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
It was fantastic.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:56
And there's literally nowhere now, there's no, like, local baker in the whole town.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์–ด๋””์—๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์„ ์ „์ฒด์— ๋™๋„ค ๋นต์ง‘ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:03
The closest thing sometimes is somewhere like Greggs, which...
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€ Greggs์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์ธ๋ฐ...
14:06
I was gonna say Greggs!
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Greggs๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”!
14:08
I think Greggs is better known for its, like, pasties, isn't it?
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” Greggs๊ฐ€ ํŽ˜์ด์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
14:11
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
14:12
Yeah.
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14:12
Again, just coming back, like having lived in Italy, I was in Sicily
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์‘.
๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์‚ด์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง‰ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ์ €๋Š” ์‹œ์น ๋ฆฌ์•„์—๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:17
as well, which is obviously very different from the north of Italy,
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. ์ด๋Š”
14:21
where all of these local family-run businesses are still very much a thing.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜„์ง€ ๊ธฐ์—…์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ๋ถ๋ถ€์™€๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
When I come back and when I did come back permanently, you just notice now
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜๊ตฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ, ์ด์ œ
14:31
everything is just chain, like a chain, like Greggs and even like restaurants.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด Greggs๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฒด์ธ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ฒด์ธ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:36
There's like Bella Italia and like all of these, you don't get really
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Bella Italia์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ
14:40
local, like family-run restaurants.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์šด์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ง€์—ญ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:43
I mean, they still do exist, but they're really not very common these days.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:47
Yeah.
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14:47
And they're certainly not on the high street.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:49
I think, you know, what we mentioned about like rising rents has pushed
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ž„๋Œ€๋ฃŒ ์ƒ์Šน๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด
14:52
out the independents to other areas of town, but then they struggle
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๋ฌด์†Œ์†์ž๋“ค์„ ๋„์‹œ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ€์–ด๋ƒˆ์ง€๋งŒ
14:57
because there's not the footfall.
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๋ฐœ๊ฑธ์Œ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:59
When you mentioned about bakers we, during the pandemic, obviously we had lockdown.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ œ๋นต์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€์œ ํ–‰ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ์‡„๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:04
We have an industrial estate close to our house and within that industrial
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์‚ฐ์—… ๋‹จ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฐ์—… ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‚ด์—
15:08
estate, there's a commercial baker who bakes breads and things for restaurants.
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๋นต๊ณผ ์‹๋‹น์šฉ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ตฝ๋Š” ์ƒ์—… ์ œ๋นต์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:15
But obviously all the restaurants had closed down.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:17
So they had all these ingredients.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฌ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:18
And so they just would open their shutters at certain times every day.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์ผ ํŠน์ • ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์…”ํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์—ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:22
And they'd say, you can queue up outside, obviously socially distanced,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‘๊ณ  ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ค„์„ ์„œ๋ฉด
15:27
and we'll sell you whatever you need.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํŒ”์•„์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
We've got all freshly baked bread.
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๊ฐ“ ๊ตฌ์šด ๋นต์ด ๋‹ค ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
15:30
We've got pastries, everything.
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ํŒจ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ญ๋“ ์ง€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
15:33
And even though we were in a time of socially distancing,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋‘๊ธฐ ์‹œ๋Œ€์ธ๋ฐ๋„
15:36
I, that felt really nice.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”.
15:37
That kind of sense of...
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Š๋‚Œ์€...
15:38
Yeah, I can imagine.
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๋„ค, ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
15:39
We were going out in our community to gather bread, we were going somewhere
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋นต์„ ๋ชจ์œผ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
15:43
else to get eggs, and you would see all the people from the local
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๊ณ„๋ž€์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€์—ญ ์ฃผ๋ฏผ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘
15:46
area buying their daily bread, not daily bread, you don't eat that much
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์ผ์šฉํ•  ๋นต์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ผ์šฉํ• 
15:50
bread in a day, their weekly bread.
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๋นต์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋ฃจ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ฃผ๊ฐ„ ๋นต.
15:53
To be fair with two young boys, I do eat a lot of bread.
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์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋‘ ์•„๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋นต์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
And that was quite nice.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
And so after the lockdowns kind of, you know, eased off and everything started to
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ด‰์‡„ ์กฐ์น˜๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์™„ํ™”๋˜๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด
16:01
go back to normal, they actually continued to provide a local community service
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์ •์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ํ›„์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ง€์—ญ ์‚ฌํšŒ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:06
because everyone was like, we like this.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ '์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:08
Yeah.
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16:08
That was exactly how it was in Italy, like the local baker.
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์‘.
์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์˜ ํ˜„์ง€ ๋นต์ง‘์ด ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด๋‹ค.
16:13
And yeah, I didn't really think about it, it has that also community feel to
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
16:17
it as well of actually seeing people instead of, like you said, buying
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
16:20
things on Amazon that come to your door and then you don't go outside
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์•„๋งˆ์กด์—์„œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ ๋ฌธ์•ž์— ์™€์„œ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ๋Š๋‚Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
so you don't actually see anyone.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:24
I feel like on our high street and the streets coming off the high street
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
16:28
now just seem to be endless numbers of hairdressers and nail salons.
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์ด์ œ ๋์—†์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค๊ณผ ๋„ค์ผ ์‚ด๋กฑ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:34
How many hairdressers can survive in one small area?
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ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ž‘์€ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฏธ์šฉ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
16:37
Really?
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์ •๋ง?
16:38
Do you go to the hairdressers?
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๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค์— ๊ฐ€์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
16:39
You have lots of lovely locks.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ž๋ฌผ์‡ ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:42
Not as much as I should, which I think you can clearly see, which
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋งŒํผ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
16:45
again is part of the thing of just not wanting to leave the house.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์ง‘์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:48
Well, not that I don't want to, just not having time and just my hair is the least
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†๊ณ  ๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ฝ์ด
16:53
important thing on my list of priorities, but my six-month visit is coming up soon.
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๋‚ด ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„ ๋ชฉ๋ก์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด 6๊ฐœ์›”๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธ์ด ๊ณง ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:00
Oh, I see.
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17:00
So, probably again soon yeah.
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์•„๋งˆ ๊ณง ๋˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒ ์ฃ .
17:02
I never used to visit the hairdressers half as often as I do now that
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๋‚˜๋Š”
17:06
I make videos that go online.
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์— ๊ฒŒ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๋งŒํผ ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:09
For me, it just makes it much easier.
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:10
It looks a bit better when I've had it cut and I put a bit of colour in
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์ž˜๋ผ์„œ ํšŒ์ƒ‰์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒ‰์ƒ์„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ข€ ๋” ์ข‹์•„ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:13
there to hide the greys, you know.
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. ์ด์ œ
17:16
I've got to the point, I've got past caring now, so I've seen lots
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์š”์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๋ฐฐ๋ ค์‹ฌ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
17:22
of videos of like me where I look terrible, but I just think phhh.
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๋‚˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋”์ฐํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ phhh๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:25
I think it's an age thing.
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๋‚˜์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
17:27
I think you just become much more comfortable in your own skin.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ”ผ๋ถ€์— ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด ์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:31
I think when you're like at college and uni and surrounded by lots of
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ์—ฌ
17:35
other people and you're kind of you know trying to find a mate.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
17:39
Yeah, yeah.
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17:39
You know when you're out on the dating scene, you're so concerned with who
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์‘, ์‘.
๋ฐ์ดํŠธ ํ˜„์žฅ์— ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€, ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€๊ฐ€๋Š”์ง€์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
17:43
you are and how you're coming across to everybody that we just become a little,
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17:46
we're just so inward looking at ourselves and then after a while you're like,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‚ด๋ฉด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
17:51
"Oh, this is who I am.
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"์•„, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‚˜์•ผ.
17:53
I'm happy in my life.
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๋‚œ ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์ด ํ–‰๋ณตํ•ด.
17:54
I've got my partner now.
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์ด์ œ ๋‚ด ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์–ด.
17:55
I don't have to impress anyone to keep them happy."
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๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ฐ๋™์„ ์ค„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด."
17:58
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
17:59
Yeah.
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์‘.
18:00
So there are a few other things that have that now are on the high
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€
18:03
street, almost like a permanent thing.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ์˜๊ตฌ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ง€์—ญ
18:05
I don't know if you have these in your area, but they are vape shops.
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์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ „์ž๋‹ด๋ฐฐ ํŒ๋งค์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:10
Yeah.
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18:10
So obviously I don't smoke or anything, so I don't go into those shops.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:14
I have seen them a lot.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:16
Yeah.
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์‘.
18:17
And also like mobile phone shops.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ ๋งค์žฅ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
18:21
Quite recently I was quite shocked to find a shop on the high street.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์— ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:26
The main street where normally you would find the best shops and
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ƒ์ ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฉ”์ธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ์—
18:29
there was a shop called iCrack.
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iCrack์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ์ ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:33
So it sounded like it was just selling dodgy iPhones.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์•„์ดํฐ์„ ํŒŒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:37
And I couldn't believe this shop existed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:40
I had to go in there because the the screen of my iPhone
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์•„์ดํฐ ํ™”๋ฉด์ด
18:43
was broken and I didn't want...
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18:43
And is that primarily what they do?
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๊นจ์ ธ์„œ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ...
๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
18:45
They fix cracked phones?
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๊นจ์ง„ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์ณ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ ?
18:47
Yeah, they had some other phone stuff like accessories.
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๋„ค, ์•ก์„ธ์„œ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ ์ œํ’ˆ๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
18:51
Yeah, exactly.
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์˜ˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
18:52
And they can fix things.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:55
They said to me, whatever they said, I can't remember, it was
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๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋“  ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜์š”.
18:59
about a year ago, but it convinced me it wasn't worth fixing.
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1๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์ „ ์ผ์ธ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์น  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
19:02
So I had to get a new phone.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒˆ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
19:03
I think my thing was, do I trust these people with my phone?
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” '๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋‚ด ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๋กœ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?'์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:06
Because you have to leave it there and the whole establishment
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋†”๋‘ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์‹œ์„ค ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€
19:09
just didn't feel right.
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:11
Like I said, even the name iCrack put me off immediately.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด iCrack์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:17
It's funny, isn't it?
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
19:18
They tend to take the tiny units.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž‘์€ ๋‹จ์œ„๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:20
So the teeny tiny shops where there's literally just room for a body
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๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ชธ๋งŒ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ณต๊ฐ„๋งŒ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
19:25
and then they're just surrounded, you know, head to toe in like
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๋ฐœ๋๊นŒ์ง€
19:28
accessories bulging from the walls.
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๋ฒฝ์—์„œ ํŠ€์–ด๋‚˜์˜จ ์•ก์„ธ์„œ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ ์Œ“์—ฌ ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ์ƒ์ ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:31
For those of people listening who've never heard the word vape,
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vape๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณธ ์ ๋„ ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
19:33
a vape is like a little um...
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vape๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์Œ...
19:36
Electronic cigarette, is that the one?
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์ „์ž ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
19:38
Yeah it's like an e-cigarette.
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์‘, ์ „์ž๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ž‘ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด.
19:39
I think some of them are reusable, but they also have disposable vapes
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์žฌ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผํšŒ์šฉ ๋ฒ ์ดํ”„๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:43
now, which have been all over the news recently because they're causing,
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์ตœ๊ทผ ๋‰ด์Šค์— ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ
19:46
they're being just thrown around the streets and causing a problem.
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์— ๋ฒ„๋ ค์ ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:49
I don't see that vaping has a long future ahead of it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฒ ์ดํ•‘์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๊ธธ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:53
You know, just like smoking has been falling out of favour.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ํก์—ฐ์ด ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์€ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:55
I don't know.
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19:55
It's not probably the same in other countries.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์•„๋งˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
But smoking in the UK is definitely becoming less popular.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ํก์—ฐ์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋œ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:02
And drinking as well, drinking is becoming less popular.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Œ์ฃผ ์—ญ์‹œ ์ ์  ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:04
I've heard this.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค.
20:06
I've heard this.
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20:06
Some of my friends told me this, but I didn't know.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค.
๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชฐ๋ž๋‹ค.
20:09
Over a pint in the...
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ํŒŒ์ธํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋„˜๋Š”...
20:11
Yeah, I didn't know if this was true or just the fact that, so we were talking
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๋„ค, ์ด๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
20:16
about the younger generation because unfortunately now we're, you know...
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์ Š์€ ์„ธ๋Œ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”...
20:18
Old.
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๋Š™์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:19
Getting towards.
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ํ–ฅํ•ด ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:20
Yeah, exactly.
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์˜ˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
20:21
Middle-aged.
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20:21
Getting very much towards middle age.
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์ค‘๋…„์˜.
์ค‘๋…„์„ ํ–ฅํ•ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:23
So, well, they were talking about the younger generation saying they don't drink
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ Š์€ ์„ธ๋Œ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
20:27
anymore and I was just saying, look, I think you're just talking like old people.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ '๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Š™์€์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์š”์ฆ˜์€
20:31
I don't know if that's true because I very rarely go out
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๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:34
these days, so I wouldn't know.
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20:36
I think it is.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:37
I think as people become more health-conscious, as more information
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋”์šฑ ์˜์‹ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด์„œ , ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€
20:40
is made available and there's been, there's more of a push for
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์ œ๊ณต๋˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด์„œ
20:44
people to look after themselves.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๋ ค๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๋”์šฑ ๊ฐ•ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:46
And the pub, the good old, you know, British pub, that tradition is...
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŽ, ์˜๊ตญ์˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ํŽ, ๊ทธ ์ „ํ†ต์€...
20:52
pubs are struggling.
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ํŽ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:53
A lot of pubs have been closing down, and it's certainly not...
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๋งŽ์€ ์ˆ ์ง‘์ด ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋„ค์š”...
20:55
Yes, I've noticed that too.
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๋„ค, ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
20:57
It's like people just don't go and hang out in the pubs
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜ˆ์ „์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ˆ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋†€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:59
in the way that they used to.
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21:01
You know, it used to be very much a community thing and
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
21:03
it's not the same anymore.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋™์ผํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:04
We have more bars and kind of like bistro pubs where you go and you go more for
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐ”์™€ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋น„์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ ํŽ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:10
the meal or maybe, but just like the kind of average pub where you'd go for
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
21:14
a smoke and a pint, that industry isn't thriving in the way that it used to.
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๋‹ด๋ฐฐ์™€ ํŒŒ์ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํŽ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๊ทธ ์‚ฐ์—…์€ ๋ฒˆ์„ฑํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์ „์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹.
21:19
I have to make a confession.
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๊ณ ๋ฐฑ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ์‚ฌ์‹ค
21:21
I have actually recently become kind of teetotal with the exception of, like
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์ €๋Š” ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์™„์ „ ๊ธˆ์š•์ฃผ์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
21:28
if it was a wedding or, you know, if it was my surprise birthday party, I'm
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๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹์ด๋‚˜ ๊นœ์ง ์ƒ์ผ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€
21:34
turning 50 and you know, they bought me a bottle of bubbly or something like that.
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50์‚ด์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ์ƒดํŽ˜์ธ ํ•œ ๋ณ‘์ด๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์คฌ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ ๋นผ๊ณ ๋Š”์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ.
21:38
Then I'd be like, of course I'm going to have a drink with you.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋„ˆ๋ž‘ ์ˆ  ํ•œ์ž” ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ง€.
21:41
But yeah, I just decided that as boring as it might sound, I decided that
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ, ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆด์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ
21:45
after I turned 40, I was just going to really cut everything out and just
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40์„ธ๊ฐ€ ๋œ ํ›„์—๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค ์ž˜๋ผ๋‚ด๊ณ 
21:49
try and be as good as I could be...
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
21:53
Yeah that sounds good.
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21:53
...with what I put in my body.
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๋„ค ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
...๋‚ด ๋ชธ์— ๋„ฃ์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ์š”.
21:55
I actually went out for the first time in a long time, like last
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์‚ฌ์‹ค
21:59
week, the weekend before this one.
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์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ๋ง์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์— ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์–ด์š”.
22:01
And that was the first time in a very long time that I got like properly drunk.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ทจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์•„์ฃผ ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:06
And yeah, we're talking years since the last time that had happened
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
22:11
and the next day I very much was thinking maybe teetotal is a better
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋”์ฐํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์™„์ „ ๊ธˆ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:17
idea because it was horrific.
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22:20
The worst hangover ever.
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์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ˆ™์ทจ.
22:22
How long did it take you to feel good again?
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ข‹์•„์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ฑธ๋ ธ๋‚˜์š”?
22:24
Honestly, this is not an exaggeration, I think about a week like before I felt
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์†”์งํžˆ ์ด๊ฑด ๊ณผ์–ธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
22:29
100% because this was the first time I'd had a proper hangover with the children.
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์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋œ ์ˆ™์ทจ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์–ด๋ณธ ๊ฒŒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์ด๋ผ ์˜ˆ์ „์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์ฏค 100% ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
22:36
And that also makes it a million times worse because you don't have any time
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋งŒํžˆ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋ฐฐ๋‚˜ ๋” ์•…ํ™”์‹œํ‚ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:42
to just sit around doing nothing, which would be the ideal situation.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:46
What time do your kids wake up in the morning?
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์•„์นจ์— ๋ช‡์‹œ์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋‚˜์š”?
22:49
About six.
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6๊ฐœ ์ •๋„.
22:51
And so luckily it wasn't a late one.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹คํ–‰ํžˆ ๋Šฆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:54
It was more of a daytime thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ฎ์— ๋” ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:55
So I was in by like 11, but still, I felt horrific.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 11์‹œ์ฏค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋”์ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
23:02
Well, this is part of my reasoning is that whenever I've gone out lately and
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ์ถ”๋ก ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
23:06
you know, like I went out on Saturday, I went for a meal with a friend and she
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, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ํ† ์š”์ผ์— ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹์‚ฌํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ”๋”๋‹ˆ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ '
23:09
was like, should we do some cocktails?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์นตํ…Œ์ผ ํ•œ์ž” ํ• ๊นŒ?'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
23:11
And you know, ordinarily I would have gone,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š”
23:13
"Yeah, sure.
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23:13
Why not?"
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"์˜ˆ, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
์™œ ์•ˆ ๋˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:14
But I'm such a lightweight when it comes to drinking.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์›Œ์š”.
23:17
I'm trolleyed on just a few drinks.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ช‡ ์ž”์˜ ์ˆ ๋งŒ ๋งˆ์…จ๋‹ค.
23:21
Trolleyed.
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ํŠธ๋กค๋ฆฌ.
23:22
Love that term.
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23:22
And I feel it.
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๊ทธ ์šฉ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค.
23:23
I really feel it.
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์ •๋ง ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ์š”.
23:24
And the thought of, you know, having to get up, because my kids
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ๋„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์–ด๊น€์—†์ด ๋งค์ผ
23:27
will wake up no later than 6.30 every single day without fail.
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6์‹œ 30๋ถ„ ์ด์ „์— ๊นจ์–ด๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
23:31
And they are very needy children.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:33
They don't just get on with an independent play.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋…๋ฆฝ์ ์ธ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:35
They need me for everything all the time.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์— ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ด์š”.
23:38
And I just couldn't cope.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:39
So I just think, is it really worth that cocktail?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”, ๊ทธ ์นตํ…Œ์ผ์ด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
23:43
Am I happy just drinking a mocktail?
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๋ชฉํ…Œ์ผ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
23:45
Or I tend to just drink tonic water on its own.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ† ๋‹‰์›Œํ„ฐ๋งŒ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์—์š”.
23:47
I'm quite happy with that, so.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŒ์กฑํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:50
My ideal drinking though, now is this happens more when I'm in Italy,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์Œ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋” ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:54
they have this thing aperitivo, like sort of before dinner.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ €๋… ์‹์‚ฌ ์ „์— ์‹์ „์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
23:58
So to have like two beers, maximum three, whilst...
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งฅ์ฃผ ๋‘ ์ž”, ์ตœ๋Œ€ ์„ธ ์ž”๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ ค๋ฉด...
24:04
I would be gone.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:05
Three beers!
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๋งฅ์ฃผ 3๊ฐœ!
24:06
But I'm talking bottles though.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณ‘์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:08
It's very rare in Italy, you get a nice like pint.
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์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋“œ๋ฌผ๋ฉฐ ํŒŒ์ธํŠธ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข‹์€ ๋ง›์„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:12
So three bottles of beer with something to munch on whilst I'm eating and then
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ์”น์–ด๋จน์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งฅ์ฃผ ์„ธ ๋ณ‘์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ 
24:19
have dinner and then not drink anymore.
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์ €๋…์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:21
So have dinner and just drink a soft drink.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ €๋…์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์ฒญ๋Ÿ‰์Œ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ์„ธ์š”.
24:24
So then by the time you go to bed, you're actually okay.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ค ๋•Œ์ฏค์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:29
And, but you still got that little buzz of like feeling a bit tipsy.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ทจํ•œ ๋“ฏํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:34
So that's my perfect drinking arrangement these days.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์š”์ฆ˜ ๋‚ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์ˆ ์ž๋ฆฌ์•ผ.
24:38
I have to admit, I do miss, red wine was always my thing, you know, I love a
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์ธ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”, ๋ ˆ๋“œ ์™€์ธ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ €๋Š”
24:43
good full-bodied red
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์ข‹์€ ํ’€๋ฐ”๋”” ๋ ˆ๋“œ
24:44
wine, especially when you're having like really nice food or
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์™€์ธ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”. ํŠนํžˆ ์ •๋ง ๋ง›์žˆ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน์„ ๋•Œ๋‚˜
24:47
with, I like it with chocolate.
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์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด์š”.
24:49
I think I'm a heathen for suggesting red wine with chocolate.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ์— ๋ ˆ๋“œ์™€์ธ์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•œ ์ด๊ต๋„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:51
That is a good combination.
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์ข‹์€ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ด๋„ค์š”.
24:53
Liqueurs as well.
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๋ฆฌํ์–ด๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋‹ค.
24:54
Around Christmas time I am quite partial to a liqueur, but you know, there
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ฆˆ์Œ์—๋Š” ๋ฆฌํ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ
24:59
are other things I can enjoy instead.
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๋Œ€์‹  ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
25:01
I'm curious, when a man is in a hairdresser's, I mean, obviously we
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๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ , ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
25:04
can't speak for all of our gender, but when I go, because I have the same
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๋ชจ๋“  ์„ฑ๋ณ„์„ ๋Œ€๋ณ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€
25:09
hairdresser, and you just talk so much.
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๋ฏธ์šฉ์‹ค์— ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:12
Because it's like they're a stranger, but they're not a stranger.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
25:15
They're not connected to your life.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:16
So you can tell them everything.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:18
And I divulge all of my personal information to this stranger, like every
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” 7์ฃผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์”ฉ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ด ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:23
seven weeks or so when I go and visit.
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.
25:25
Is it the same for men?
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๋‚จ์ž๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
25:26
Or is it like, you know, sit there in silence or what?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์กฐ์šฉํžˆ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š” ?
25:28
What's the deal?
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๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด์•ผ?
25:30
So for me personally, yeah, I do prefer no talking generally,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š”
25:34
unless I know the person.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ ํ˜ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š”
25:36
Although saying that, the last time I got my hair cut in the UK, which..
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ž๋˜ ๊ณณ์ด..
25:43
This is a chain, I believe, TONI&GUY.
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ํ† ๋‹ˆ์•ค๊ฐ€์ด ์ฒด์ธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
25:45
Yeah.
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25:45
That's a chain, isn't it?
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์‘.
๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ฒด์ธ์ด๊ตฐ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
25:46
Big chain.
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ํฐ ์ฒด์ธ.
25:47
Big chain.
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25:47
And they've got their own like products and stuff.
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ํฐ ์ฒด์ธ.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ ์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:49
It's
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25:50
a brand.
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25:50
Yeah.
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25:50
So I
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๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์‘.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
25:51
thought I'd go there.
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25:51
I didn't realise how expensive it was, so to get my hair cut at the end.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
๋น„์šฉ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋“œ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์— ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ž๋ฅด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
25:57
Well, I went in and asked and they said the cut and dry starts from 40 pounds.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ ์ปทํŒ…๊ณผ ๋“œ๋ผ์ด๋Š” 40ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
26:04
And I thought, 'right, that's okay.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  '๋งž์•„, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
26:06
It's still expensive, but okay'.
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์•„์ง์€ ๋น„์‹ธ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”'
26:09
And I just thought, 'starts from, what does that mean?' And then
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” '์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์ง€?'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
26:13
when I, at the end, they said,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์—
26:14
"It's 69 pounds."
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"69ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
26:16
Just to get my hair cut.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์ž๋ฅด๋ ค๊ณ ์š”.
26:17
Wow!
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์šฐ์™€!
26:18
But there was a woman.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
26:20
And we really hit it off.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์„ฑ๊ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:21
We were chatting away like there was no tomorrow.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚ด์ผ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
26:23
It was great.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
26:24
So I did have a really good chat with her.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€์™€ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:26
But yeah, generally, maybe it's when it's another man.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚จ์ž์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
26:29
You just think, I don't know.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:32
You just don't want to talk as much.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:33
But yeah.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์š”์ฆ˜์€
26:34
I tend to take my laptop in actually these days.
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๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ํŽธ์ด์—์š” .
26:37
Wow!
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26:37
If I'm quite busy, so I'll take my laptop and I'll have
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์šฐ์™€!
๊ฝค ๋ฐ”์˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์„œ
26:39
to stipulate at the beginning.
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์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•ฝ์ •์„ ํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:41
She'll be like,
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26:41
"Oh, Anna, how are you?
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
"์•„, ์• ๋‚˜, ์ž˜ ์ง€๋‚ด? ์š”์ฆ˜์€
26:42
How's things?"
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์–ด๋•Œ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
26:43
I'll say,
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26:43
"I'm really good.
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๋‚˜๋Š”
"์ •๋ง ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”.
26:44
I do have a lot of work to do today though, so I'm just going
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
26:46
to get on with some work."
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์ผ์„ ์ข€ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์š”"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
26:47
And she'll always just check,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
26:49
"Now that now that your colour's on.
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"์ด์ œ ์ƒ‰๊น”์„ ์ž…์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ
26:50
Do you, do you need a magazine?
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์žก์ง€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
26:52
Or is that a silly question?"
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์ธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:54
Like, that's a silly question.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด๊ตฐ์š”.
26:55
I'm doing my work.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
26:57
I like that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
26:58
So that's basically a sign to say, don't talk to me.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๋Š” ์‹ ํ˜ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:01
I'm working.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:02
Yeah.
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์‘.
27:03
That's a good one, yeah.
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฑฐ๋„ค, ์‘.
27:05
And the other thing I've noticed that I thought was quite unusual on the
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์—์„œ ๊ฝค ์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ
27:08
high street lately is that, so all these kind of lovely independent coffee
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์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋…๋ฆฝ ์ปคํ”ผ
27:12
shops have started to close down.
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์ˆ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:15
But in place we've started to get the Starbucks and like the Pret A Mangers.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  Pret A Mangers๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:20
And which I find unusual because I would expect that in big kind
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ
27:24
of city towns, but not in kind of suburban area, like high streets.
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๋„์‹œ์˜ ๋„์‹œ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ต์™ธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:29
And so having these kind of big chain coffee shops and fast food
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ์ฒด์ธ ์ปคํ”ผ์ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ํŒจ์ŠคํŠธํ‘ธ๋“œ
27:35
establishments come in was a bit odd.
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์ ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค์–ด์™€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ์ด์ƒํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
27:38
Yeah, I agree.
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27:38
And so again, obviously, it's the same where I live.
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์‘, ๋‚˜๋„ ๋™์˜ํ•ด.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ณณ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:41
And that's like my fear that we're just becoming so Americanised now that kind
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์ œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฏธ๊ตญํ™”๋˜์–ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
27:48
of losing our identity a bit and not just us, just globalisation in general.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์žƒ์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‘๋ ค์›€๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:52
Even where I lived in Italy, which obviously has got a really strong
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•˜๋˜ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ๋„
27:57
kind of like coffee culture.
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์ปคํ”ผ ๋ฌธํ™”์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:59
It wasn't actually Starbucks.
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์›๋ž˜๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:00
So this was in the south of Italy.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ๋‚จ๋ถ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์ „์—ญ
28:02
I think there's only one Starbucks in all of Italy or something like that.
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์— ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
28:04
I can't remember, but in the south, I think actually they had to close
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๊ธฐ์–ต์€ ์•ˆ ๋‚˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚จ๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค์—์„œ ๋ณต์‚ฌํ•ด์„œ ๋ฒŒ๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
28:09
because they got fined by Starbucks for like copying it was it was basically
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
28:13
Starbucks with a different name and I think they had to close after a few
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์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์Šคํƒ€๋ฒ…์Šค์˜€๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋’ค์— ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
28:17
years because, like, they had copied the brand or something like that.
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. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณต์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:22
But the fact these places even exist and there are so many more of these popping
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํŒ์—…์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
28:25
up in Italy, like fast food places which, like, aren't really a thing and like even
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ํŒจ์ŠคํŠธ ํ‘ธ๋“œ ์žฅ์†Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉฐ
28:32
like the food culture there obviously is much stronger than it is over here.
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์Œ์‹ ๋ฌธํ™”์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋๋‚œ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ.
28:36
So it's just it's a shame to see just globalisation really and everything just
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์„ธ๊ณ„ํ™”์™€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด
28:42
turning into what it's like in America.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ณ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:45
Do you have McDonald's?
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๋งฅ๋„๋‚ ๋“œ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
28:46
Of course.
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๋ฌผ๋ก .
28:47
Yeah.
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28:47
I mean, McDonald's has been there.
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์‘.
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋งฅ๋„๋‚ ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
28:49
Forever.
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์˜์›ํžˆ.
28:50
Forever.
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28:50
Yeah.
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์˜์›ํžˆ.
์‘.
28:51
Like with my town, even the same place.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋™๋„ค๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์ด๋ผ๋„์š”.
28:52
I even used to have McDonald's birthday parties when I was a kid.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ๋งฅ๋„๋‚ ๋“œ์˜ ์ƒ์ผ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:56
Oh, did you?
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28:56
And so did everyone.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‚˜์š”?
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:57
And it was great.
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28:57
Did Ronald McDonald come to your party?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Ronald McDonald๊ฐ€ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์— ์™”๋‚˜์š”?
29:00
Yeah.
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29:00
He was there a few times.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:03
And I've spoken about this a few times on a podcast that like, the treat
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ๋งํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ , ๊ทธ ๋Œ€์ ‘์€
29:07
was that they would take the birthday boy or the birthday girl plus one
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์ƒ์ผ ๋‚จ์ž์•„์ด๋‚˜ ์ƒ์ผ ์—ฌ์ž์•„์ด์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ ํ•œ ๋ช…์„ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
29:12
friend to go and look around the back.
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๊ฐ€์„œ ๋’ค๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:15
So they would take you to see like where the burgers are made, which
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ–„๋ฒ„๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง€๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
29:18
when you're like five, it was like,
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๋‹ค์„ฏ ์‚ด์ฏค ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
29:20
"Oh my God, this is amazing.
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"๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ •๋ง ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ด. ์ง„์งœ
29:22
It was so.."
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29:22
I didn't realise there were probably just some spotty teenagers working
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์˜€์–ด.."๋ผ๊ณ 
๋Š๊ผˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์–ผ๋ฃฉ๋œ๋ฃฉํ•œ ์‹ญ๋Œ€๋“ค์€
29:26
there thinking, 'I can't wait till this is over so I can go home.'
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' ์ด ์ผ์ด ๋๋‚˜์„œ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค'๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:30
Kids are so easily pleased, aren't they?
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ปํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
29:32
Oh yeah.
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
29:33
I'm dreading when they start like going,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
29:35
"Oh, this is just rubbish."
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"์•„, ์ด๊ฑด ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ์•ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‘๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „
29:36
It was my son's fifth birthday party, well, birthday recently.
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๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค์˜ ๋‹ค์„ฏ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ƒ์ผ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:41
And I was really stressed the night before because I hadn't had the time
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ „๋‚  ๋ฐค์— ์ •๋ง ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:44
to decorate or even buy decorations or do any of the things that I
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์žฅ์‹ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ , ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์žฅ์‹๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
29:47
wanted to do to make it special.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ์ผ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:49
So we found some old bunting that I just put up literally one strip of bunting in
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚ก์€ ๊นƒ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์‹์‚ฌ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์— ๊นƒ๋ฐœ ํ•œ ์žฅ์„ ๊ฑธ์–ด๋‘๊ณ 
29:54
the kind of dining area, blew up three balloons that we dug out, and that was it.
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, ํŒŒ๋‚ธ ํ’์„  ์„ธ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ์–ด์„œ ๋‚ ๋ ค๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:59
And he came down, he was like,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚ด๋ ค์™€์„œ
30:02
"This is the best birthday ever."
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"์ด๋ฒˆ ์ƒ์ผ์€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์ƒ์ผ์ด์•ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:04
I'm just like,
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
30:05
"Really?
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"์ •๋ง?
30:06
Oh, darling."
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์•„, ์–˜์•ผ."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
30:08
Keep your expectations low.
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๊ธฐ๋Œ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋‚ฎ๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
30:09
Or keep that bar low.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ค€์„ ๋‚ฎ๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
30:10
Let's not go any more than this.
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์ด ์ด์ƒ์€ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง™์‹œ๋‹ค.
30:13
This is easy for now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
So thinking back to when you were a kid, what are the, what the shops, because you
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์ด์ผœ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ƒ์ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€
30:19
used to have things, all sorts of things, like, you know, there was something called
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์˜จ๊ฐ– ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
30:22
The Works and Shoe Zone, Poundland, um...
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ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋žœ๋“œ์— The Works and Shoe Zone์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ.. .
30:27
I had a look at your list and when I was reading it, I was thinking,
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ฝ์œผ๋ฉด์„œ
30:30
do these things not exist anymore?
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ?๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:32
Because I thought...
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”...
30:33
Not always.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€.
30:34
...they still exist.
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...์•„์ง๋„ ์กด์žฌํ•ด์š”.
30:35
So, Shoe Zone, Shoe Zone is like a cheap shoe store, isn't it?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์Šˆ์กด, ์Šˆ์กด์€ ์‹ธ๊ตฌ๋ ค ์‹ ๋ฐœ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ™์ฃ ?
30:40
It's a chain, but for cheaper shoes.
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์ฒด์ธ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ ๋ฐœ์ด ๋” ์ €๋ ดํ•ด์š”.
30:42
We don't really, I don't know if it's a southern/northern thing.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚จ๋ถ€์ธ์ง€ ๋ถ๋ถ€์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ์ชฝ์—๋Š”
30:46
I think there are still lots of Shoe Zones up north, but down here I
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์•„์ง ์‹ ๋ฐœ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ , ์ด ์•„๋ž˜์—๋Š”
30:49
haven't seen many if any Shoe Zones.
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์‹ ๋ฐœ ๊ตฌ์—ญ์ด ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:52
We have Clarks.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ํด๋ฝ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:54
Oh, Clarks.
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์•„, ํด๋ฝ์Šค.
30:55
Yeah, number one.
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์‘, 1์œ„์•ผ.
30:56
Too expensive to buy shoes there.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์‹ ๋ฐœ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์—” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น„์‹ธ์š”.
30:58
Exactly.
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30:58
50 pounds for a pair of kids pumps.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด ํŽŒํ”„ ํ•œ ์ผค๋ ˆ์— 50ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:00
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
31:01
But yeah, Shoe Zone, I can even picture this in my mind now.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, Shoe Zone, ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด ๊ทธ๋ ค์ ธ์š”.
31:05
I'm thinking, I'm sure it's still there, but I would have to check because, you
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์ธํ•ด ๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
31:10
know, in my mind, I've still got the image of what the high street was like, like
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์—๋Š” 25๋…„ ์ „์˜ ์‹œ๋‚ด ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:14
25 years ago, in my mind, but in reality, lots of those shops have actually gone.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์—†์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:20
But Shoe Zone for me was in fact, it wasn't actually on the main high street.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์— Shoe Zone์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฉ”์ธ ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:25
So it was less important, like some of the big ones, which I saw was
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋œ ์ค‘์š”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ
31:28
on your list as well, like Woolies, Woolworths like that, when that went,
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Woolies, Woolworths์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ํฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค๋„ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋ชฉ๋ก์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ
31:33
that was like a real blow to everyone.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ํฐ ํƒ€๊ฒฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:37
I still remember hearing that on the news and just being like,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๋‰ด์Šค์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ 
31:39
"Oh no."
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"์•„, ์•ˆ๋ผ"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:40
Yeah.
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์‘.
31:41
So Woolworths, for those listening, how would you describe Woolworths?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด Woolworths๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด Woolworths๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
31:44
It had a mix of everything.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ˜ผํ•ฉ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:45
Yeah, there was lots of things in there, really, weren't there?
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์‘, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—” ์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€? ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ
31:48
Like you could buy sweets in there, which I'm sure you could.
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1908803
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์—์„œ ๊ณผ์ž๋ฅผ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š” . ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ด์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
31:51
I'm surprised that the first thing you say is sweets.
670
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณผ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:53
They had the big pick and mix selection, didn't they?
671
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํฐ ์„ ํƒ๊ณผ ๋ฏน์Šค ์„ ํƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
31:56
Yeah.
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์‘. ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š”
31:59
I'm sure you could get like DVDs, well, before, videos and things.
673
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DVD ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ด์š”. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋„์š”. ๊ทธ
32:03
I can't really think what else was in there except sweets.
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์•ˆ์— ๊ณผ์ž ์™ธ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:04
Stationery?
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๋ฌธ๋ฐฉ๊ตฌ?
32:05
Stationery?
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32:05
Stationery.
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๋ฌธ๋ฐฉ๊ตฌ?
๋ฌธ๋ฐฉ๊ตฌ.
32:06
I was thinking that as well, yeah.
678
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๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‘.
32:08
I think it was just like a general like home and living type of, you know,
679
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4010
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ง‘๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™œ ๋ฐฉ์‹, ๋“ค์–ด
32:12
come in and buy all sorts of stuff.
680
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์™€์„œ ์˜จ๊ฐ– ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:14
But I miss Woolworths a lot.
681
1934608
2560
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์šธ์›Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”.
32:17
But the thing I remember that sticks out in my mind when I think
682
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Woolworths๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ ์†์— ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
32:20
of Woolworths is it's the only time I've ever broken the law.
683
1940798
3660
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฒ•์„ ์–ด๊ธด ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋•Œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:25
Because I'm very, I think I'm quite a conscientious person.
684
1945593
3870
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ์‹คํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:29
I certainly know right from wrong.
685
1949463
1550
๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ณ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ฆ„์„ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:31
And I would never steal anything like off the shelves.
686
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์„ ๋ฐ˜์—์„œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ํ›”์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
32:34
But I would notice walking around because I had a terrible sweet tooth, and I would
687
1954273
3850
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชน์‹œ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ,
32:38
notice that some of the sweets had fallen onto the floor and I would see that the
688
1958123
4700
๊ณผ์ž ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์— ๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
32:42
people in the shop would sweep these sweets up and throw them in the bin.
689
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๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด ๊ณผ์ž๋ฅผ ์“ธ์–ด ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐํ†ต์— ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:46
Now, some of the sweets had wrappers on, so I was like,
690
1966223
2450
์ž, ๊ณผ์ž ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€์—๋Š” ํฌ์žฅ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ €๋Š” '
32:48
Right, okay.
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330
๋งž์•„, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:49
'They're not dirty and they're just gonna go in the bin.
692
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2730
'๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋”๋Ÿฝ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐํ†ต์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:52
So, I'm not doing anything wrong by just picking those up,
693
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฃผ์›Œ์„œ
32:56
sticking them in my pocket.'
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์ฃผ๋จธ๋‹ˆ์— ๋„ฃ์–ด๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ์ž˜๋ชป๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.'
32:57
It's a bit gross.
695
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970
์ข€ ์‹ฌํ•˜๋„ค์š”.
32:59
You're just, you're doing them a favour, really.
696
1979728
1520
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜ธ์˜๋ฅผ ๋ฒ ํ’€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:02
I was helping them to clean up.
697
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362
33:02
Exactly.
698
1982610
64
33:02
I was just helping them to clean up.
699
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864
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ฒญ์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ฒญ์†Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:03
Oh right, that's not bad.
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์•„ ๋งž๋‹ค, ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„ค.
33:05
Yeah, because yeah, I can't remember if it was there or also in Wilko's, they
701
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๋„ค, ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด Wilko's์—๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
33:10
used to do it at Wilkinson's, which is also closing down, I recently heard.
702
1990758
3430
Wilkinson's์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด ๊ณณ ๋„ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:14
Yeah, I think they went into administration just this year.
703
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๋„ค, ์˜ฌํ•ด ํ–‰์ •์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
33:17
And what you used to do is you used to like weigh the pick and mix and then you'd
704
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋˜ ์ผ์€ ๊ณก๊ดญ์ด์˜ ๋ฌด๊ฒŒ๋ฅผ ์žฌ๊ณ  ํ˜ผํ•ฉํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ
33:24
get like a sticker which you would put on the bag and then you could put some more
705
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3680
์— ๋ถ™์ผ ์Šคํ‹ฐ์ปค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป์€ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋” ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜
33:27
and you could put a few more in yeah.
706
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ๋” ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:29
Never even thought of that.
707
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ๋„ ์—†์–ด์š”.
33:30
See, you're a clever criminal.
708
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33:30
I'm a conscientious criminal.
709
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๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜๋ฆฌํ•œ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋‚˜๋Š” ์–‘์‹ฌ์ ์ธ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:32
A true criminal.
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์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์ž.
33:34
Yeah.
711
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์‘. ์ œ๊ฐ€
33:35
I think the one shop I miss the most was, is HMV.
712
2015168
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ๋Š” HMV์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
33:39
Now that definitely is still, not on the high street, but just
713
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
33:43
off the high street where I live.
714
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฒˆํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์˜†์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:44
Really?
715
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์ •๋ง?
33:45
Okay.
716
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33:45
So that hasn't changed luckily for me because yeah, even now.
717
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
์šด ์ข‹๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋ณ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:49
So just the other day I was with my wife and children and my wife
718
2029968
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „ ์•„๋‚ด์™€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€
33:55
was in one shop and I just went in there just to walk around.
719
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ํ•œ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:58
So what do they sell there now?
720
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํŒ”๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
33:59
Cause HMV for those listening is all about like, it's music and it's entertainment,
721
2039853
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๋“ฃ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ HMV๋Š” ์Œ์•…์ด์ž ์—”ํ„ฐํ…Œ์ธ๋จผํŠธ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
34:04
so it's music and films and games.
722
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์Œ์•…, ์˜ํ™”, ๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:06
And so you go in there mostly to buy like DVDs, CDs and game consoles and games.
723
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฃผ๋กœ DVD, CD, ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ฝ˜์†”, ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ๋“ฑ์„ ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:12
So I guess there's the big gaming section.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํฐ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์„น์…˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:14
But what do they do other than that?
725
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์™ธ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
34:16
How do they...?
726
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520
34:16
So they sell like electronic stuff as well.
727
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ...?
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „์ž์ œํ’ˆ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํŒ”๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:20
So like, what are they called?
728
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋‚˜์š”?
34:23
Like when you like, this is even sounds old with this, but where you
729
2063333
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ
34:28
plug your iPod into it, if you don't do that now, but like something to
730
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iPod์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด
34:32
play music with stereo kind of thing.
731
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์Šคํ…Œ๋ ˆ์˜ค๋กœ ์Œ์•…์„ ์žฌ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:34
I'm not sure of the new name.
732
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:37
So, like speakers and things like that.
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34:37
Speakers and like headphones.
734
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์š”.
์Šคํ”ผ์ปค ๋ฐ ํ—ค๋“œํฐ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:40
And maybe they do the retro, like vinyl.
735
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋น„๋‹์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณต๊ณ ํ’์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:44
Because there's a big vinyl market, isn't there?
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋น„๋‹ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ํฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
34:46
Absolutely.
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์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ.
34:47
Yeah.
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34:47
And like T-shirts, posters.
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1490
์‘.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ , ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
34:49
In fact, even now, you know, like the old posters you could flick through.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ํœ™ํœ™ ๋„˜๊ฒจ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:52
Yeah, yeah.
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์‘, ์‘.
34:53
I still like just flicking through the posters.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋„˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:56
I don't know.
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34:56
I don't even know what most of them are these days, but when...
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ธ์ œ... ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฐจํŠธ์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š”
34:59
I couldn't tell you anyone that's in the charts right now.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
35:04
Oh, God no.
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260
35:04
Do they...?
747
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230
35:04
I didn't know the charts even still existed.
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1650
์•„, ์•ˆ๋ผ์š”.
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ• ...?
๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฐจํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง๋„ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:06
Yeah, yeah.
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580
์‘, ์‘.
35:07
I sometimes I'm in the car and it goes,
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1740
๊ฐ€๋” ์ฐจ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
35:08
"The charts!"
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2108878
830
"์ฐจํŠธ!"๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋œน๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:09
And I'm like, "Oh, ok!"
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830
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” "์•„, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š”!"๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
35:10
Yeah.
753
2110618
60
35:10
I don't know any of this music.
754
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2850
์‘.
๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์Œ์•…์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค.
35:13
That's a shame, isn't it, getting old?
755
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1370
๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ๋Š™์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”?
35:14
It is.
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2114998
590
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€.
35:16
Because obviously since like Top of the Pops and things
757
2116048
2670
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ Top of the Pops ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด๋‚˜
35:18
where it was like a big thing.
758
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1350
ํฐ ์ผ ๊ฐ™์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
35:20
And I was talking to friends about this the other day.
759
2120548
1770
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:22
Like when there was a song you liked, it was so difficult to actually...
760
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4089
์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํž˜๋“ค๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”...
35:26
unless you actually went to the shop and bought the single, there
761
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4430
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒต์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์‹ฑ๊ธ€์„ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์ƒ, ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ด์ƒ
35:30
was no way of actually listening to it unless it came on the radio.
762
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š” .
35:34
So..
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ..
35:35
Yeah, and you then would record it off the radio.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋…น์Œ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฒ ์ฃ .
35:38
Oh, yeah.
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์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
35:39
Yeah.
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420
35:39
I used to love that.
767
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550
์‘.
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
35:40
Onto your tape.
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ํ…Œ์ดํ”„์—.
35:41
Yeah.
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320
35:41
But, and so we were talking about it as well, that's what made it
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์‘.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
35:44
so special of like, the song comes on the radio and it was like,
771
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3200
๊ทธ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๊ฐ€ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ž
35:47
'Oh, yes, brilliant!'
772
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1940
'์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ด!'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:49
And these days with everything being digital, I know it's like much easier
773
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3310
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋””์ง€ํ„ธํ™”๋˜์–ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์†์— ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ
35:53
to get a hold of almost everything, but actually like I wanted to play ET for
774
2153163
4690
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์”ฉ ์˜ํ™”์˜ ๋ฐค์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ET๋ฅผ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:57
my family because we have movie night every couple of weeks, I was like,
775
2157853
3459
36:01
"I think my boys would love ET."
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๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค๋“ค์€ ET๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”."
36:03
And I couldn't find it.
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700
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:04
And we have a lot of subscriptions and we couldn't find it anywhere.
778
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3100
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ตฌ๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์„œ ์–ด๋””์„œ๋„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:07
I did actually find it just yesterday.
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2480
์‚ฌ์‹ค ์–ด์ œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
36:10
It's actually on NOW TV, which is like the Sky product, but we
780
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4090
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” Sky ์ œํ’ˆ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ NOW TV์— ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
36:14
don't have that subscription.
781
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1310
๊ตฌ๋…๊ถŒ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:15
And, or, yeah, we don't have that one.
782
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2125
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์—†์–ด์š”.
36:18
So I was like, well, I'm going to have to now pay for a subscription that I
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2710
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
36:20
don't want just to get this one film.
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1510
์ด ์˜ํ™” ํ•œ ํŽธ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ตฌ๋…๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์ด์ œ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:22
Whereas in the past you would just go and buy the video, the VHS or the DVD,
785
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5290
๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋‚˜ VHS, DVD๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ฉด
36:27
and then you just had it in your cupboard and you could pull it out any point.
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์ฐฌ์žฅ์— ๋„ฃ์–ด๋‘๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€ ๊บผ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:31
Or go to another high street classic, Blockbusters.
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4400
์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌํŠธ ํด๋ž˜์‹์ธ ๋ธ”๋ก๋ฒ„์Šคํ„ฐ(Blockbusters)๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
36:35
Blockbusters.
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1220
๋ธ”๋ก๋ฒ„์Šคํ„ฐ.
36:36
Yeah, the video rental shop.
789
2196748
1950
์‘, ๋น„๋””์˜ค ๋Œ€์—ฌ์ .
36:38
Exactly.
790
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740
์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
36:39
Go down there, hire it.
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1470
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ณ ์šฉํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
36:41
Yeah.
792
2201088
660
36:41
Go and watch it and then take it back.
793
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1650
์‘.
๊ฐ€์„œ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณธ ๋’ค ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
36:44
Oh, oh, I'm feeling so nostalgic now.
794
2204968
1990
์•„, ์•„, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ •๋ง ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜์— ์ –์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
36:48
I don't know when that closed.
795
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1170
์–ธ์ œ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
36:49
I mean, that's been closed for years, obviously, now, but these things
796
2209878
3520
์ œ ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์€ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ์‡„๋์–ด์š”, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ง€๊ธˆ์€, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€
36:53
just kind of disappear, don't they?
797
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1560
๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
36:55
Yeah.
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540
36:55
You just..
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630
์‘.
๋„Œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ..
36:57
Yeah, we've lived through such a transformative era.
800
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4240
๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ˜์ ์ธ ์‹œ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์‚ด์•„์™”์–ด.
37:02
Yeah, definitely.
801
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670
37:02
'Cause I still remember no mobile phones, no computers.
802
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3485
์‘, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ง€.
์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‚œ ์•„์ง๋„ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ๋„, ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
37:06
Of course, yeah.
803
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450
37:06
No internet.
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1200
๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:08
Yeah, same.
805
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530
37:08
And you know, life was so much simpler.
806
2228853
1970
์‘, ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์•ผ.
์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ธ์ƒ์€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:10
Oh, 100%.
807
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970
์•„, 100%.
37:11
I mean, there's so many opportunities now for English learners.
808
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3140
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:14
I think, you know, life now is, any language learner, is much easier, but
809
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4930
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
37:20
yeah, I do miss those simple days when you weren't bombarded with messages
810
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4650
37:25
left, right and centre and everything keeping you overstimulated all the time.
811
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4040
์™ผ์ชฝ, ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ, ๊ฐ€์šด๋ฐ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์™€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ณผ์ž‰ ์ž๊ทน์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์˜ ํญ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ์‹œ์ ˆ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”.
37:29
Absolutely.
812
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640
์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ.
37:30
Right, I always think of how these days, you're just never really bored
813
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4925
๋งž์•„์š”, ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ๋งŒ ๊บผ๋‚ด์„œ ๊ฐ€๋งŒํžˆ ์•‰์•„์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ง€๋ฃจํ•˜์ง€
37:35
in the sense that you don't have to just like sit around and think
814
2255808
3390
์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์š”
37:39
because you just get your phone out.
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.
37:41
So if I'm ever watching TV, which is very rare these days, like normal
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์š”์ฆ˜ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ผ๋ฐ˜
37:44
TV, and there's an advert break, the first thing I'll do is take my phone.
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TV์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ TV๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ด‘๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ํ•  ์ผ์€ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:50
And then I'll watch some stupid videos until whatever I'm watching comes back on.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:55
Whilst before you had to watch the adverts and...
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์ด์ „์—๋Š” ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ ...
37:58
Or talk to your family.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:59
Yeah, exactly.
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์˜ˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
38:01
Or even if you're just waiting like at the post office or something like
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์šฐ์ฒด๊ตญ์ด๋‚˜
38:05
that, just the first thing you do is just take your phone out, and, like,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„์ง€๋ผ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๊บผ๋‚ด์„œ
38:11
pretend you're busy kind of thing.
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๋ฐ”์œ ์ฒ™ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:12
I find it overwhelming at times that I, as a content creator, I don't know if
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์ €๋Š” ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ  ์ œ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„
38:16
you feel the same, but I go through waves of feeling like really motivated and
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๊ฐ™์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ผ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ •๋ง ์˜์š•์ด ๋„˜์น˜๊ณ 
38:21
inspired and I've got loads of energy.
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์˜๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋“ฏํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์˜ ํŒŒ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์œผ๋ฉฐ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์••๋„์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:23
And then I peak where I feel overwhelmed and then I'd go down.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์••๋„๊ฐ์„ โ€‹โ€‹๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ์ง€์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:27
And then I hit this kind of rut where I just can't bear, I have to leave my
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ €๋Š” ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ‹€์— ๋น ์กŒ๊ณ , ์ž๊ทน์„ ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์„œ ๋ช‡
38:31
phone in another room for hours because I just can't bear the stimulation.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์— ๋‘์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
38:35
It's just too much.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์š”.
38:36
It's actually nice to hear someone else say that because
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
38:38
that's exactly how I feel.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐ์ •์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:41
Like, when you get to that low and you just, I can't face...
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง๋ฉดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
38:44
and because obviously as content creators, you kind of know what's happening.
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์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ  ์ œ์ž‘์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:47
So when someone's like, you're flicking through Instagram, with
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด Instagram์„ ํœ™ํœ™ ํ›‘์–ด๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ
38:50
the hook to try and get your attention and you're just like,
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38:52
"Oh, I can't be bothered with this."
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"์•„, ์ด๊ฑด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด"๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:56
So yeah, the phone in the other room is something I'm doing a lot at the moment.
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๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „ํ™”์˜ˆ์š”. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋™์˜์ƒ์„
39:01
And what I even notice if I'm uploading a video, for example, and it just takes
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์—…๋กœ๋“œํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ช‡ ์ดˆ ๋ฐ–์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
39:05
a few seconds, normally I'll just reach for my phone and I even still do that,
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์— ์†์„ ๋ป—์œผ๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๊ณ„์† ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:10
like my hand will go to get my phone, even though it's actually not there.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ์žก์œผ๋Ÿฌ ์†์„ ๋ป—๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์—†๋Š”๋ฐ๋„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
39:14
It's just a reflex now, which is terrible.
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฐ˜์‚ฌ์ž‘์šฉ์ผ ๋ฟ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:18
Yeah.
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39:18
Yeah.
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์‘.
์‘.
39:19
We need to try and find a healthy balance.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๊ท ํ˜•์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „
39:21
One of the mums said to me just the other day, she said,
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ํ•œ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ
39:23
"I left my phone in the other room and my child, my four-year-old panicked
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"๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์— ๋‘๊ณ  ์™”๋Š”๋ฐ, ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ 4์‚ด์งœ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹นํ™ฉํ•ด์„œ
39:28
and grabbed my phone and ran with my phone like I would die without it going
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ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ์›€์ผœ์ฅ๊ณ  ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์ฃฝ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๊ฐ”๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:33
'mummy, mummy, you forgot your phone.
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'์—„๋งˆ, ์—„๋งˆ, ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ์–ด์š”.
39:34
Are you okay?'"
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”?'๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์„ธ์š”."
39:35
Because she'd never seen her without her phone.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ ์—†์ด๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:38
And I think, you know, we're teaching our kids some really vital lessons now.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ตํ›ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:42
We have to think what those lessons are and if that's what we want to teach them.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ตํ›ˆ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:46
So as my kids get older, you know, my partner and I are always like, we
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์ปค๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์ œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์™€ ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
39:50
don't have the phones at the table.
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ํ…Œ์ด๋ธ”์— ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์š”.
39:52
We always eat meals at the table together.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‹ํƒ์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‹ค.
39:53
Yeah, same.
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์‘, ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์•ผ.
39:54
We don't have our phones.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:55
And I think as my kids get phones, when they're teenagers,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด 10๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ฉด
39:58
we'll have a box or something.
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์ƒ์ž ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:00
They will have to put their phone away at certain times so they can learn how
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
40:04
to interact properly with their families.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํŠน์ • ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:06
It's scary thinking of kids with phones.
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ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฌด์„ญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:08
Because it was like you said, we didn't have that.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•œ ๋Œ€๋กœ์˜€์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
40:10
I remember no phones and, so yeah, it's quite scary thinking like
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ „ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:15
the whole social media and things.
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์ „์ฒด ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์™€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ๋ฌด์„œ์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:16
Yeah, they've got that because we didn't have that.
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์‘, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
40:20
Yeah.
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์‘.
40:21
Well, we've gone all around the houses, haven't we?
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ง‘์ง‘ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ €๊ธฐ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋…”์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
40:24
Indeed.
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40:24
All around the houses, but hopefully, you know, the high street will survive.
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๋ฌผ๋ก .
์ง‘ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—๋Š” ์˜จํ†ต ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ฑด๋Œ€ ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:29
Currently we have a lot of empty shops and there's more and more going every
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋นˆ ์ƒ์ ์ด ๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋งค์ผ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ์ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
40:34
day and more different things popping up.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:37
Poundland still survives.
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ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋žœ๋“œ๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ์‚ด์•„์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:39
Poundland, the shop where everything is a pound, although not always.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ์ธ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ, ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋žœ๋“œ. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€
40:42
It's not.
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์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:43
It's just to get you in, yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
40:44
Yeah.
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40:44
Times change, but I think some of these things will just continue to survive.
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์‘.
์‹œ๋Œ€๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์‚ด์•„๋‚จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:49
The one thing I did want to wrap up on was the cost of a stamp.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์šฐํ‘œ ๋น„์šฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:54
I'm outraged.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋…ธํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
40:55
Outraged!
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๋ถ„๋…ธํ•˜๋‹ค!
40:56
I haven't actually bought a stamp in such...
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์šฐํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...
40:58
I had to apply for a passport for my daughter the other day because she
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์ €๋ฒˆ์— ์ œ ๋”ธ์ด
41:03
didn't actually have a British one.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜๊ตญ ์—ฌ๊ถŒ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋”ธ์˜ ์—ฌ๊ถŒ์„ ์‹ ์ฒญํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:04
She only had an Italian one.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:06
But I got some kind of like recorded delivery thing.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋…น์Œ๋œ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š”.
41:11
I didn't actually buy a stamp.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ์šฐํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
41:13
So I actually don't know how much a stamp is.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์šฐํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ์ธ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:16
So you can tell me.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:17
It's ยฃ1.25 for a first-class stamp.
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์ผ๋ฅ˜ ์šฐํ‘œ๋Š” ยฃ1.25์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:21
When I was born, back in 1981 it was 14 pence.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ, 1981๋…„์—๋Š” 14ํŽœ์Šค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:26
Isn't that insane, ยฃ1.25?
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๋ฏธ์นœ ๊ฑฐ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”, ยฃ1.25?
41:29
So talk about price inflation, so do you remember Space Raiders, the crisps?
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๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ ์ธํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด ์นฉ์ธ Space Raiders๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
41:35
I can't remember someone told me recently.
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:36
They're like 60p now or something like that.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 60p์ฏค ๋˜๋„ค์š” .
41:39
Oh my goodness!
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๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ!
41:40
They were like 10p.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 10p ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:41
Yeah!
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์‘!
41:42
So yeah, cost of living, but, on the high street thing, I was
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ , ์ƒํ™œ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๊ธด ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์‹œ๋‚ด ์ค‘์‹ฌ๊ฐ€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์†Œ์‹์„
41:46
happy to hear the other day.
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๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋ปค์–ด์š”.
41:48
I was talking to my niece who is 11 and I said, I think we were on a Sunday.
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11์‚ด์ธ ์กฐ์นด์™€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋˜ ์ค‘ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:54
I said,
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41:54
"What did you do yesterday?"
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๋‚˜๋Š”
"์–ด์ œ ๋ญ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”? "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:55
And she said,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
41:56
"I went into town with my friend."
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๋‚ด์— ๊ฐ”๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:59
And I was quite pleased that that's still a thing because I remember when I
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„์ง๋„ ๋‚จ์•„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ๋ฌด์ฒ™ ๊ธฐ๋ปค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€
42:02
was 11 and going into town on your own without parents and just walking around
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11์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜ ์—†์ด ํ˜ผ์ž ์‹œ๋‚ด์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ
42:08
having a look in the shops was an event.
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์ƒ์ ์„ ๊ตฌ๊ฒฝํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:11
So I'm happy to hear that that's still going.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:15
Yeah, it's I think the one thing when we're talking about towns in general, one
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์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์‹œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
42:19
thing that I'm really frustrated with, and I hope does change soon, because
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋‹ต๋‹ตํ•˜๊ณ  ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
42:23
of all the cuts, the budget cuts, the councils have no money, a lot of the
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ญ๊ฐ, ์˜ˆ์‚ฐ ์‚ญ๊ฐ, ์˜ํšŒ์— ๋ˆ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ๋งŽ์€
42:27
public swimming pools are being shut down because they cost too much to run.
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๊ณต๊ณต ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์ด ์šด์˜ ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ์‡„๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:30
And so people are really struggling to have, you know, get to a local
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง€์—ญ
42:34
pool and do some swimming and when I was a kid, like that was the thing.
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์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง‘์•ˆ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
42:40
You took your pocket money after doing your chores, you got your pocket money.
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์šฉ๋ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”๋”๋‹ˆ ์šฉ๋ˆ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:43
You went to town, you went swimming and you, I would always have one of those
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹œ๋‚ด์— ๊ฐ€๊ณ , ์ˆ˜์˜๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  , ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
42:48
awful machine soups where you put your money in and it gives you a chicken soup
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ์„ ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฐ€๋ฃจ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ์น˜ํ‚จ ์ˆ˜ํ”„๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ์ˆ˜ํ”„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
42:53
from powder, you know, drink that with dunk your KitKat in it, oh disgusting!
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— KitKat์„ ๋‹ด๊ทธ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์…”์š”. ์—ญ๊ฒจ์šด!
42:57
And then I'd go into the town and walk around the shops.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹œ๋‚ด๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ƒ์  ์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:01
I'd go to the joke shop, always buy something disgusting from the joke shop
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋†๋‹ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋†๋‹ด ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์—ญ๊ฒจ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์„œ
43:04
to play pranks on my family and friends.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์žฅ๋‚œ์„ ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:07
Or something to dress up in.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์˜ท์„ ์ž…์„ ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ.
43:08
And I used to make videos even when I was a kid, so buy some
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณค ํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ
43:11
witchy things or something.
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๋งˆ๋ฒ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์„ธ์š”.
43:13
And yeah, just hang out, steal sweets from Woolworths, go and listen to music in HMV.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†€๊ณ , Woolworths์—์„œ ๊ณผ์ž๋ฅผ ํ›”์น˜๊ณ  , ๊ฐ€์„œ HMV์—์„œ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
43:18
So I hope that, I hope the kids of today can still enjoy kind of some level of
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋„
43:24
what we enjoyed when we were younger.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:26
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
43:27
Not just be obsessed with their phones.
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ํœด๋Œ€ํฐ์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
43:29
Just one last story about going into town.
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๋งˆ์„๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€
43:32
I think one of the first times I did was when I bought my
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
43:34
first album with my money.
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์ œ ๋ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์ฒซ ์•จ๋ฒ”์„ ์ƒ€์„ โ€‹โ€‹๋•Œ์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
43:38
And I remember, again, talking about phones, because I was spending
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ „ํ™” ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ๊ฐ€ 10ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
43:42
ยฃ10, it felt like such a big thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์กŒ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
43:44
And I actually went to a payphone, put in 10p to call my mum at home and say,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ณต์ค‘์ „ํ™”๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ 10p๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์–ด ์ง‘์— ๊ณ„์‹  ์—„๋งˆ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ
43:50
"Is it okay if I spend my money on this album?"
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" ์ด ์•จ๋ฒ”์— ๋ˆ์„ ์จ๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์„๊นŒ์š”? "๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
43:54
And she said yeah, and then I went into the shop and spent ยฃ10 and I was like,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋‹ตํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ 10ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ผ๊ณ 
43:58
"Oh my God."
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"๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:59
What was it?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
44:00
I'm actually quite pleased and quite proud of it because it is still an album
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ฝค ๊ธฐ์˜๊ณ  ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:04
I like which was The Fugees - The Score.
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The Fugees - The Score ์•จ๋ฒ”์ด ์•„์ง๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์•จ๋ฒ”์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:06
Nice.
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๋ฉ‹์ง„.
44:07
Which was an album I still actually like a lot, but yeah that was, I
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์•„์ง๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์•จ๋ฒ”์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”,
44:12
still remember that day so well.
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๊ทธ ๋‚ ์ด ์•„์ง๋„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์š”. ์ •๋ง
44:13
It was a great day.
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋‚  ์ด์—ˆ์–ด.
44:15
I don't remember my first album but I remember my first single.
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์ฒซ ์•จ๋ฒ”์€ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒซ ์‹ฑ๊ธ€์€ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚œ๋‹ค.
44:20
Not as cool.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๋ฉ‹์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:21
I do still enjoy the song, but it was Hanson - MMMBop.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ Hanson - MMMBop์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:25
Oh, right.
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44:25
Wow.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
์šฐ์™€.
44:26
Yeah.
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44:26
Everyone thought they were girls, didn't they?
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์‘.
๋‹ค๋“ค ์—ฌ์ž์ธ ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜์ฃ ?
44:28
When they saw the video.
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44:28
Yeah.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋น„๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ๋ดค์„ ๋•Œ.
์‘.
44:29
Yeah.
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44:29
'Cause they had like long blonde hair.
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์‘.
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ธด ๊ธˆ๋ฐœ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
44:31
Yeah.
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์‘.
44:32
Yeah.
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44:32
I mean, they're pretty cool even now.
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์‘.
๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ๊ฝค ๋ฉ‹์ง€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
44:34
Like, you know, they're still busting a groove.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹๊ทธ๋ฃจ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ํ„ฐ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:37
Really?
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44:37
Yeah.
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์ •๋ง?
์‘.
44:38
Yeah.
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44:38
They're still like working musicians.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:41
Okay.
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44:41
I didn't, did not know that.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:42
Yeah.
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์‘.
44:43
Every day is a school day.
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๋งค์ผ์ด ํ•™๊ต ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‚ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:45
Yeah, I'm trying to get my kids into all the music that I've,
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๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€
44:47
you know, loved over the years.
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์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด ์˜จ ๋ชจ๋“  ์Œ์•…์„ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:49
Right.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
44:50
And it takes them a little while, but then they obsess over one song.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ๊ณก์— ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:54
And like the recent song was, I Believe In A Thing Called Love.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋‚˜์˜จ ๋…ธ๋ž˜์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ I Believe In A Thing Called Love๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:58
Right.
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44:58
Ok.
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44:58
Because we do like that kind of like rock stuff.
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์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
์ข‹์•„์š”.
์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ก ์Œ์•…์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:01
So, I put that on a couple of times and my sons were playing in the other room,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์ฐฉ์šฉํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ œ ์•„๋“ค๋“ค์€
45:05
just like obsessed with Magna-Tiles or something really into their task.
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๋งˆ์น˜ Magna-Tiles ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž„๋ฌด์— ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ‘น ๋น ์ ธ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:09
And then out of nowhere, my son just comes running in and like
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค์ด ๋›ฐ์–ด ๋“ค์–ด์™€ ๋งˆ์น˜
45:12
does a knee slide across the floor.
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๋ฌด๋ฆŽ์ด ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€๋กœ์งˆ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฏธ๋„๋Ÿฌ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:15
Carpet burn.
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์นดํŽซ ํ™”์ƒ.
45:16
Jumps up on the couch and starts like doing air guitar, like, yes, I've got you.
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์†ŒํŒŒ ์œ„๋กœ ๋›ฐ์–ด์˜ฌ๋ผ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์—์–ด ๊ธฐํƒ€๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žก์•˜์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
45:20
I've got you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:21
Here's another one.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:22
And now it's like nonstop.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋…ผ์Šคํ†ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:23
I'm going to get sick of it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์งˆ๋ ค ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
45:25
Fantastic.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:26
But thank you.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”.
45:27
We have, we have been here for nearly an hour, but thank you so
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
45:30
much for covering all that ground.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์–ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:33
I'm sure the listeners would have got something very useful from
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ
45:36
that, loads of lovely vocabulary.
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, ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์–ดํœ˜๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:38
So thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:39
It's been a pleasure taking a trip down memory lane.
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์ถ”์–ต์˜ ๊ธธ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:42
Absolutely.
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45:42
A really nostalgic podcast.
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์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ.
์ •๋ง ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์ผ์œผํ‚ค๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:44
Fantastic.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:45
Thanks for having me.
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์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:46
And I'm going to come over and do something on your podcast.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:48
So, all of my listeners should definitely come over to you
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋‚ด ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ผญ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์™€์„œ
45:51
and have a listen to that.
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๊ทธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:53
I'll put links in the show notes.
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์‡ผ๋…ธํŠธ์— ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด ๋†“๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:55
Do you have a website where we can find all your links?
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
45:58
I do.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
45:59
So it's rocknrollenglish.com, but notice it's Rock 'N' spelt 'N', Rock n' Roll.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ rocknrollenglish.com์ด์ง€๋งŒ Rock 'N' ์ฒ ์ž๊ฐ€ 'N'์ธ Rock n' Roll์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์— ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
46:06
Actually, if you can see there, this is the flag, Rock n' Roll English.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๊ธฐ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒŒ ๊นƒ๋ฐœ, Rock n' Roll English ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:10
It's actually got a grammatical mistake because there should
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46:12
be another apostrophe there.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•์  ์˜ค๋ฅ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:14
And the same as you, I kind of put this out and someone once sent me
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๋‚˜๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‚ด๋†“์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ
46:17
a really aggressive message saying,
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46:20
"There should be another apostrophe there."
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"๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•„ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœํ”ผ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค "๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:22
I was like,
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46:22
"Ahh, yeah!"
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๋‚˜๋Š”
"์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜!"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
46:23
I could change it, but I'm quite proud of the fact that there's a mistake in
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๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
46:28
like my brand, like, logo and everything because it, like you mentioned about
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๋‚ด ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ, ๋กœ๊ณ  ๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ์‹ค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
46:33
you make mistakes, we make mistakes.
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์‹ค์ˆ˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋“ฏ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์‹ค์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:35
So I'm quite proud of it now.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ฝค ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์š”.
46:37
Yeah, just stand by it.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ์„ธ์š”.
46:38
It's reflective of your teaching, nice and relaxed and owning your mistakes.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์นœ์ ˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นจ์„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:44
Exactly.
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46:44
So yeah, rocknrollenglish.com
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46:47
Fantastic.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ด๋„ค์š”.
46:48
Well, thank you.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”.
46:49
You take care.
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์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
46:50
Yep, you too.
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46:50
Thanks a lot, Anna.
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์‘, ๋„ˆ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์•ผ.
์ •๋ง ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์•ˆ๋‚˜.
46:51
See you soon.
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๊ณง ๋ด์š”.
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